Re: [Flashcoders] DisplayObject's filtered dimensions too large to be drawn
If you have a filter applied to a container (Movieclip, sprite) and something inside it has moved far off stage, that will make the container's dimensions very large. Take a peek for stray objects. The Random Lines My online portfolio www.therandomlines.com 2009/5/26 Alan Neilsen aneil...@gotafe.vic.edu.au: Can anybody tell me what might cause this, Warning: Filter will not render. The DisplayObject's filtered dimensions (4365, 240) are too large to be drawn. There is nothing in my project with dimensions anywhere near that, so I am at a loss as to what it means. Alan Neilsen This message is for the named person’s use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or; lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the sender. You must not directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. GOULBURN OVENS INSTITUTE OF TAFE and any of its subsidiaries each reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the message states otherwise and the sender is authorised to state them to be the views of any such entity. # This e-mail message has been scanned for Viruses and Content and cleared by MailMarshal # ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] DisplayObject's filtered dimensions too large to be drawn
Good response.. Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm k...@designdrumm.com http://designdrumm.com On May 26, 2009, at 2:12 AM, Ashim D'Silva wrote: If you have a filter applied to a container (Movieclip, sprite) and something inside it has moved far off stage, that will make the container's dimensions very large. Take a peek for stray objects. The Random Lines My online portfolio www.therandomlines.com 2009/5/26 Alan Neilsen aneil...@gotafe.vic.edu.au: Can anybody tell me what might cause this, Warning: Filter will not render. The DisplayObject's filtered dimensions (4365, 240) are too large to be drawn. There is nothing in my project with dimensions anywhere near that, so I am at a loss as to what it means. Alan Neilsen This message is for the named person’s use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or; lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the sender. You must not directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. GOULBURN OVENS INSTITUTE OF TAFE and any of its subsidiaries each reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the message states otherwise and the sender is authorised to state them to be the views of any such entity. # This e-mail message has been scanned for Viruses and Content and cleared by MailMarshal # ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] How can i asign an action to a loaded swf from the mainTimeLine?
Hi. I have a timeline with some actions to load different swfs. WHen i load other swf, i want to asign an action to a movieclip that is in that swf. How can i access it from the main timeline?? Here is the code: function seuCorpoLink(event:MouseEvent):void { var seuCorpo:LoadFile=new LoadFile(seucorpo.swf,txtPct); removeChild(objecto); this.addChild(seuCorpo); seuCorpo.x=317; seuCorpo.y=348; objecto=seuCorpo; } Basically, i have a serie of buttons in the timeline that call different swfs. When i click one of them, it calls the specific swf. That specific swf is loaded successfully but what i want is to add an event listener to a movieclip that is located in the specific swf, to call other swf. I tried this(after objecto=seuCorpo) this.seuCorpo.mc_to_open_other_swf.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK, callOtherSWF); But it fails...(TypeError: Error #1010: A term is undefined and has no properties.) Here is the function that is in the main timeline: function callOtherSWF(event:MouseEvent):void { var marcar:LoadFile=new LoadFile(other.swf,txtPct); removeChild(objecto); this.addChild(marcar); marcar.x=317; marcar.y=348; objecto=marcar; } -- Atentamente, José Maria Barros +351 96 572 61 24 -- José Maria Barros +351 96 572 61 24 ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] How can i asign an action to a loaded swf from the mainTimeLine?
You could look into LocalConnection On May 26, 2009, at 3:12 AM, José Maria Barros wrote: Hi. I have a timeline with some actions to load different swfs. WHen i load other swf, i want to asign an action to a movieclip that is in that swf. How can i access it from the main timeline?? Here is the code: function seuCorpoLink(event:MouseEvent):void { var seuCorpo:LoadFile=new LoadFile(seucorpo.swf,txtPct); removeChild(objecto); this.addChild(seuCorpo); seuCorpo.x=317; seuCorpo.y=348; objecto=seuCorpo; } Basically, i have a serie of buttons in the timeline that call different swfs. When i click one of them, it calls the specific swf. That specific swf is loaded successfully but what i want is to add an event listener to a movieclip that is located in the specific swf, to call other swf. I tried this(after objecto=seuCorpo) this.seuCorpo.mc_to_open_other_swf.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK, callOtherSWF); But it fails...(TypeError: Error #1010: A term is undefined and has no properties.) Here is the function that is in the main timeline: function callOtherSWF(event:MouseEvent):void { var marcar:LoadFile=new LoadFile(other.swf,txtPct); removeChild(objecto); this.addChild(marcar); marcar.x=317; marcar.y=348; objecto=marcar; } -- Atentamente, José Maria Barros +351 96 572 61 24 -- José Maria Barros +351 96 572 61 24 ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm k...@designdrumm.com http://designdrumm.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] Papervision Help
Have you tried the Papervision list? I think these questions specific to Papervision are more appropriate there. Jason Merrill Bank of America Global Learning Shared Services Solutions Development Monthly meetings on the Adobe Flash platform for rich media experiences - join the Bank of America Flash Platform Community -Original Message- From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Omar Fouad Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 5:49 PM To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Papervision Help Well my concern now is, how can I apply a light and a shadow to a MovieMaterial. I've searched the whole google for it but invain. On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 9:18 AM, Ashim D'Silva as...@therandomlines.comwrote: Well, papervision will be able to do that, and the docs are quite helpful. You'll have to be specific when you search google for this stuff though. I did find some nice tutorials on lighting and shaders that should be helpful but that I can't remember offhand. However, you might want to re-evaluate using the default flash 10 stuff. Lighting and shadowing live is only necessary if your object are going to change enough to make a difference. You might find you can get away with baking all that into textures and saving your processing power. Ashim The Random Lines My online portfolio www.therandomlines.com 2009/5/24 Omar Fouad omarfouad@gmail.com: Hi all, I am working on a project where I need to create 6 circles (planes) with different colors. the cirlces are placed one over the other and centered, so when I move the mouse down those they rotate to show something like a piramid. I could just use the native 3d in Flash but my boss needs each circle to be clickable, have a shadow and be shaded (lighted). I actually played around with papervision lately, using BasicView and some kind of materials, but now I feel frustrated as I just can't figure out how to do this work. Any Ideas? I also cannot find a decent papervision explanation on the net. What I am looking for is a conceptual explanation about papervision not just how to create some shapes and put them on the stage. -- Omar M. Fouad - www.omar-fouad.net Cellular: (+20) 1011.88.534 Mail: m...@omar-fouad.net This e-mail and any attachment is for authorised use by the intended recipient(s) only. It may contain proprietary material, confidential information and/or be subject to legal privilege. It should not be copied, disclosed to, retained or used by, any other party. If you are not an intended recipient then please promptly delete this e-mail and any attachment and all copies and inform the sender. Thank you. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- Omar M. Fouad - Adobe Flash™ Platform Developer www.omar-fouad.net Cellular: (+20) 1011.88.534 Mail: m...@omar-fouad.net This e-mail and any attachment is for authorised use by the intended recipient(s) only. It may contain proprietary material, confidential information and/or be subject to legal privilege. It should not be copied, disclosed to, retained or used by, any other party. If you are not an intended recipient then please promptly delete this e-mail and any attachment and all copies and inform the sender. Thank you. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] access individual items in combobox
Hi list... How do you access individual items in an AS3 component combobox? I can't seem to pick through the combobox.dropdown reference. I am trying to skin each of the items in the dropdown differently based on their values. Thanks, - Michael M. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] Server-side image export from swf
Hi all, I'm building an online tool to let my client create diagrams and then download them as print resolution images or pdf. I wondered if anyone had suggestions for ways to achieve this on the server. Some brief googling suggests that converting the image to an array of pixels and passing them to the server is the way to go, but as the images need to be high-res I'm wondering if there might be a quicker solution using svg export or similar? Thanks in advance for any help Dan ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] access individual items in combobox
myComboBox.addEventListener(Event.CHANGE, cardSelected); function cardSelected(e:Event):void { trace(You have selected: + e.target.selectedItem.label + + + e.target.selectedItem.data); } -Original Message- From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Charles Parcell Sent: dinsdag 26 mei 2009 21:11 To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] access individual items in combobox This what you are looking for? myComboBox.getItemAt(1); Charles P. On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Mendelsohn, Michael michael.mendels...@fmglobal.com wrote: Hi list... How do you access individual items in an AS3 component combobox? I can't seem to pick through the combobox.dropdown reference. I am trying to skin each of the items in the dropdown differently based on their values. Thanks, - Michael M. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] access individual items in combobox
This what you are looking for? myComboBox.getItemAt(1); Charles P. On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Mendelsohn, Michael michael.mendels...@fmglobal.com wrote: Hi list... How do you access individual items in an AS3 component combobox? I can't seem to pick through the combobox.dropdown reference. I am trying to skin each of the items in the dropdown differently based on their values. Thanks, - Michael M. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] access individual items in combobox
Hi, Drawing each item in a combobox drop-down or list is handled by a CellRenderer. Usually you write your own class that implements the correct interface and override your various functions to suit. Here's a couple of links that may help you start: http://www.rockabit.com/2008/04/15/combobox-text-formatting-in-as3/ http://www.flash-db.com/Tutorials/cellrenderer/ http://www.flashscript.biz/flashas3/datagrid_list/cellrenderer.html HTH Glen Mendelsohn, Michael wrote: Hi list... How do you access individual items in an AS3 component combobox? I can't seem to pick through the combobox.dropdown reference. I am trying to skin each of the items in the dropdown differently based on their values. Thanks, - Michael M. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- Glen Pike 01326 218440 www.glenpike.co.uk http://www.glenpike.co.uk ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] Projector Serial Number protection
Hi, Quick question whilst I am also Googling... Does anyone have any recommendations for tools that will package up a Flash projector with serial number licensing facilities. I guess it does not have to be a Flash projector tool, any installer that adds serial number protection would be good. I am not under the illusion that this will prevent software theft, but may hamper it enough to be useful... Cheers Glen -- Glen Pike 01326 218440 www.glenpike.co.uk http://www.glenpike.co.uk ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] Projector Serial Number protection
Hi Glen MDM Zinc has a serial number implementation. Hope that helps Paul -Original Message- From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Glen Pike Sent: 26 May 2009 21:50 To: Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: [Flashcoders] Projector Serial Number protection Hi, Quick question whilst I am also Googling... Does anyone have any recommendations for tools that will package up a Flash projector with serial number licensing facilities. I guess it does not have to be a Flash projector tool, any installer that adds serial number protection would be good. I am not under the illusion that this will prevent software theft, but may hamper it enough to be useful... Cheers Glen -- Glen Pike 01326 218440 www.glenpike.co.uk http://www.glenpike.co.uk ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] Projector Serial Number protection
I seem to remember Zinc handles this fairly well - particularly if robots are involved. ;-) -Original Message- From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Glen Pike Sent: 26 May 2009 21:50 To: Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: [Flashcoders] Projector Serial Number protection Hi, Quick question whilst I am also Googling... Does anyone have any recommendations for tools that will package up a Flash projector with serial number licensing facilities. I guess it does not have to be a Flash projector tool, any installer that adds serial number protection would be good. I am not under the illusion that this will prevent software theft, but may hamper it enough to be useful... Cheers Glen -- Glen Pike 01326 218440 www.glenpike.co.uk http://www.glenpike.co.uk ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] loving it!!! RTMPE spec
I found a link online that perhaps you may like to check out; for, it happens to have a rough version of the RTMPE Spec. http://lkcl.net/rtmp/RTMPE.txt ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Projector Serial Number protection
Hi, Cheers guys - Zinc looks quite sturdy and possibly a nice investment, depending on whether the (humanoid) client wants to go for something flexible. Found a few other products that let you bundle in serial protection - probably less flexible, but cheap - links for anyone interested. Comments welcome.. http://www.increditools.com/flash_exe_builder/features.php http://www.chameleonflash.com/index.html As for the robots - they can look after themselves - can't put serial numbering on an OS Linux app, so we have to resort to making the robots walk and fight their own battles :P Later Glen Kevin Bath wrote: I seem to remember Zinc handles this fairly well - particularly if robots are involved. ;-) -Original Message- From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Glen Pike Sent: 26 May 2009 21:50 To: Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: [Flashcoders] Projector Serial Number protection Hi, Quick question whilst I am also Googling... Does anyone have any recommendations for tools that will package up a Flash projector with serial number licensing facilities. I guess it does not have to be a Flash projector tool, any installer that adds serial number protection would be good. I am not under the illusion that this will prevent software theft, but may hamper it enough to be useful... Cheers Glen -- Glen Pike 01326 218440 www.glenpike.co.uk http://www.glenpike.co.uk ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] How do I flow text from an XML/XHTML file into two columns?
Using Gaia, I am trying to load content within flash from an XHTML file, and have the text flow from a p into two columns. This is what I have so far (AS3): In the .fla file, I have two columns set as dynamic text, with the instance names column1 and column2, respectively. In the corresponding .as file, here is my code, including only the relevant portions: package pages { import flash.display.*; import flash.events.*; import flash.text.*; import flash.external.*; import flash.xml.*; public class AboutPage extends AbstractPage { public var column1:TextField; public var column2:TextField; public function AboutPage() { super(); alpha = 0; } override public function transitionIn():void { super.transitionIn(); var value:XML = XMLList(copy.innerHTML)[0]; var body:XML = value.div.(@id == body)[0]; var i:int = 1; column1.htmlText = body.p; addChild(column1); if (body.length() 13) { column2.htmlText = column1.htmlText; for(i=0; icolumn1.bottomScrollV; i++) { column2.htmlText += br /; } column2.scrollV = column1.bottomScrollV + 1; addChild(column2); } TweenLite.to(this, 0.1, {alpha:1, onComplete:transitionInComplete}); } So far, the text is indeed loading fine into column1, but then that's it. The remainder of the content disappears, and does not load into column2. I took some of Steven's suggestions and looked around Google, but I still cannot get it to work. Does anyone else have any advice? Thanks, Jonathan Wing Graphic Designer Cram Crew, Inc. mobile: (713) 298-2738 office: (713) 464-CRAM (2726) email: jw...@cramcrew.com mailto:jw...@cramcrew.com www.cramcrew.com http://www.cramcrew.com/ One Student At A Time The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] How do I flow text from an XML/XHTML file into two columns?
Could you show some sample of the XHTML you are reading in? Specifically, what does body.p trace out? On May 26, 2009, at 4:00 PM, Jonathan Wing wrote: Using Gaia, I am trying to load content within flash from an XHTML file, and have the text flow from a p into two columns. This is what I have so far (AS3): In the .fla file, I have two columns set as dynamic text, with the instance names column1 and column2, respectively. In the corresponding .as file, here is my code, including only the relevant portions: package pages { import flash.display.*; import flash.events.*; import flash.text.*; import flash.external.*; import flash.xml.*; public class AboutPage extends AbstractPage { public var column1:TextField; public var column2:TextField; public function AboutPage() { super(); alpha = 0; } override public function transitionIn():void { super.transitionIn(); var value:XML = XMLList(copy.innerHTML)[0]; var body:XML = value.div.(@id == body)[0]; var i:int = 1; column1.htmlText = body.p; addChild(column1); if (body.length() 13) { column2.htmlText = column1.htmlText; for(i=0; icolumn1.bottomScrollV; i++) { column2.htmlText += br /; } column2.scrollV = column1.bottomScrollV + 1; addChild(column2); } TweenLite.to(this, 0.1, {alpha:1, onComplete:transitionInComplete}); } So far, the text is indeed loading fine into column1, but then that's it. The remainder of the content disappears, and does not load into column2. I took some of Steven's suggestions and looked around Google, but I still cannot get it to work. Does anyone else have any advice? Thanks, Jonathan Wing Graphic Designer Cram Crew, Inc. mobile: (713) 298-2738 office: (713) 464-CRAM (2726) email: jw...@cramcrew.com mailto:jw...@cramcrew.com www.cramcrew.com http://www.cramcrew.com/ One Student At A Time The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] How can i asign an action to a loaded swf from the mainTimeLine?
Are you perhaps trying to assign the event listener before the SWF has loaded fully? ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Projector Serial Number protection
Careful with buying Zinc if you don't already have a license. As of late, their support is non existing. They haven't responded in quite some time on their support forums. I've asked them (a month ago) about a (serious) bug that has been around since August 2008 and haven't heard anything. Just a friendly warning :) - Original Message - From: Glen Pike postmas...@glenpike.co.uk To: Flash Coders List flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 12:22 AM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Projector Serial Number protection Hi, Cheers guys - Zinc looks quite sturdy and possibly a nice investment, depending on whether the (humanoid) client wants to go for something flexible. Found a few other products that let you bundle in serial protection - probably less flexible, but cheap - links for anyone interested. Comments welcome.. http://www.increditools.com/flash_exe_builder/features.php http://www.chameleonflash.com/index.html As for the robots - they can look after themselves - can't put serial numbering on an OS Linux app, so we have to resort to making the robots walk and fight their own battles :P Later Glen ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders