RE: [Flashcoders] OTish MP3 files for a piano scale
This doesn't have to be a particularly accurate thing - I just want it to sound something like a piano. I was going to say something similar to what Kerry said - taking samples from the real world as separate MP3 files. It would seem to be pretty easy (albeit somewhat time consuming) to do that if you had a moderately OK mic (even one from Best Buy) and access to a piano or even a synthesizer. Then you'd have a library to work from. You could preload all possible notes - being they would be quite small files individually, wouldn't be too bad. Heck, you could sell the library online for some small bucks and make money. Jason Merrill Instructional Technology Architect Bank of America Global Learning ___ -Original Message- From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Paul Andrews Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 6:41 PM To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] OTish MP3 files for a piano scale Thanks guys. This doesn't have to be a particularly accurate thing - I just want it to sound something like a piano. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- This message w/attachments (message) is intended solely for the use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or proprietary. If you are not an intended recipient, please notify the sender, and then please delete and destroy all copies and attachments, and be advised that any review or dissemination of, or the taking of any action in reliance on, the information contained in or attached to this message is prohibited. Unless specifically indicated, this message is not an offer to sell or a solicitation of any investment products or other financial product or service, an official confirmation of any transaction, or an official statement of Sender. Subject to applicable law, Sender may intercept, monitor, review and retain e-communications (EC) traveling through its networks/systems and may produce any such EC to regulators, law enforcement, in litigation and as required by law. The laws of the country of each sender/recipient may impact the handling of EC, and EC may be archived, supervised and produced in countries other than the country in which you are located. This message cannot be guaranteed to be secure or free of errors or viruses. References to Sender are references to any subsidiary of Bank of America Corporation. Securities and Insurance Products: * Are Not FDIC Insured * Are Not Bank Guaranteed * May Lose Value * Are Not a Bank Deposit * Are Not a Condition to Any Banking Service or Activity * Are Not Insured by Any Federal Government Agency. Attachments that are part of this EC may have additional important disclosures and disclaimers, which you should read. This message is subject to terms available at the following link: http://www.bankofamerica.com/emaildisclaimer. By messaging with Sender you consent to the foregoing. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] OTish MP3 files for a piano scale
Jason Merrill wrote: I was going to say something similar to what Kerry said - taking samples from the real world as separate MP3 files. It would seem to be pretty easy (albeit somewhat time consuming) to do that if you had a moderately OK mic (even one from Best Buy) and access to a piano or even a synthesizer. Then you'd have a library to work from. You could preload all possible notes - being they would be quite small files individually, wouldn't be too bad. Heck, you could sell the library online for some small bucks and make money. -- You could go further than recording all 88 notes. A soft note has a different timbre, attack, and decay from a loud note. For such a library to be really valuable, you would need to have different attacks at different volume levels. At least you don't have to worry about legato, since a piano can't play true legato like a violin or French Horn. A non-accented attack would do well for legato. Cordially, Kerry Thompson ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] OTish MP3 files for a piano scale
I wonder how much of that you could realistically control using volume settings in Actionscript on the sound? Not realistic enough? Jason Merrill Instructional Technology Architect Bank of America Global Learning ___ -Original Message- From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Kerry Thompson Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 10:27 AM To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] OTish MP3 files for a piano scale Jason Merrill wrote: I was going to say something similar to what Kerry said - taking samples from the real world as separate MP3 files. It would seem to be pretty easy (albeit somewhat time consuming) to do that if you had a moderately OK mic (even one from Best Buy) and access to a piano or even a synthesizer. Then you'd have a library to work from. You could preload all possible notes - being they would be quite small files individually, wouldn't be too bad. Heck, you could sell the library online for some small bucks and make money. -- You could go further than recording all 88 notes. A soft note has a different timbre, attack, and decay from a loud note. For such a library to be really valuable, you would need to have different attacks at different volume levels. At least you don't have to worry about legato, since a piano can't play true legato like a violin or French Horn. A non-accented attack would do well for legato. Cordially, Kerry Thompson ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- This message w/attachments (message) is intended solely for the use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or proprietary. If you are not an intended recipient, please notify the sender, and then please delete and destroy all copies and attachments, and be advised that any review or dissemination of, or the taking of any action in reliance on, the information contained in or attached to this message is prohibited. Unless specifically indicated, this message is not an offer to sell or a solicitation of any investment products or other financial product or service, an official confirmation of any transaction, or an official statement of Sender. Subject to applicable law, Sender may intercept, monitor, review and retain e-communications (EC) traveling through its networks/systems and may produce any such EC to regulators, law enforcement, in litigation and as required by law. The laws of the country of each sender/recipient may impact the handling of EC, and EC may be archived, supervised and produced in countries other than the country in which you are located. This message cannot be guaranteed to be secure or free of errors or viruses. References to Sender are references to any subsidiary of Bank of America Corporation. Securities and Insurance Products: * Are Not FDIC Insured * Are Not Bank Guaranteed * May Lose Value * Are Not a Bank Deposit * Are Not a Condition to Any Banking Service or Activity * Are Not Insured by Any Federal Government Agency. Attachments that are part of this EC may have additional important disclosures and disclaimers, which you should read. This message is subject to terms available at the following link: http://www.bankofamerica.com/emaildisclaimer. By messaging with Sender you consent to the foregoing. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] OTish MP3 files for a piano scale
multisampled pianos are available without having to record it all yourself! you'd still have to be loading a hell of a lot of wavs for it to sound half decent though, and probably code up something to handle the release of the keys properly... On 8 February 2011 16:27, Kerry Thompson al...@cyberiantiger.biz wrote: Jason Merrill wrote: I was going to say something similar to what Kerry said - taking samples from the real world as separate MP3 files. It would seem to be pretty easy (albeit somewhat time consuming) to do that if you had a moderately OK mic (even one from Best Buy) and access to a piano or even a synthesizer. Then you'd have a library to work from. You could preload all possible notes - being they would be quite small files individually, wouldn't be too bad. Heck, you could sell the library online for some small bucks and make money. -- You could go further than recording all 88 notes. A soft note has a different timbre, attack, and decay from a loud note. For such a library to be really valuable, you would need to have different attacks at different volume levels. At least you don't have to worry about legato, since a piano can't play true legato like a violin or French Horn. A non-accented attack would do well for legato. Cordially, Kerry Thompson ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] OTish MP3 files for a piano scale
not realistic enough no, but the OP did say it could be simple and not have to be too accurate. in which case multisampling each note would be overkill. i'd look for piano samples online (there will be oodles) and start messing with them and if it sounds ok to you then go with it... On 8 February 2011 16:31, Merrill, Jason jason.merr...@bankofamerica.comwrote: I wonder how much of that you could realistically control using volume settings in Actionscript on the sound? Not realistic enough? Jason Merrill Instructional Technology Architect Bank of America Global Learning ___ -Original Message- From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Kerry Thompson Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 10:27 AM To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] OTish MP3 files for a piano scale Jason Merrill wrote: I was going to say something similar to what Kerry said - taking samples from the real world as separate MP3 files. It would seem to be pretty easy (albeit somewhat time consuming) to do that if you had a moderately OK mic (even one from Best Buy) and access to a piano or even a synthesizer. Then you'd have a library to work from. You could preload all possible notes - being they would be quite small files individually, wouldn't be too bad. Heck, you could sell the library online for some small bucks and make money. -- You could go further than recording all 88 notes. A soft note has a different timbre, attack, and decay from a loud note. For such a library to be really valuable, you would need to have different attacks at different volume levels. At least you don't have to worry about legato, since a piano can't play true legato like a violin or French Horn. A non-accented attack would do well for legato. Cordially, Kerry Thompson ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- This message w/attachments (message) is intended solely for the use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or proprietary. If you are not an intended recipient, please notify the sender, and then please delete and destroy all copies and attachments, and be advised that any review or dissemination of, or the taking of any action in reliance on, the information contained in or attached to this message is prohibited. Unless specifically indicated, this message is not an offer to sell or a solicitation of any investment products or other financial product or service, an official confirmation of any transaction, or an official statement of Sender. Subject to applicable law, Sender may intercept, monitor, review and retain e-communications (EC) traveling through its networks/systems and may produce any such EC to regulators, law enforcement, in litigation and as required by law. The laws of the country of each sender/recipient may impact the handling of EC, and EC may be archived, supervised and produced in countries other than the country in which you are located. This message cannot be guaranteed to be secure or free of errors or viruses. References to Sender are references to any subsidiary of Bank of America Corporation. Securities and Insurance Products: * Are Not FDIC Insured * Are Not Bank Guaranteed * May Lose Value * Are Not a Bank Deposit * Are Not a Condition to Any Banking Service or Activity * Are Not Insured by Any Federal Government Agency. Attachments that are part of this EC may have additional important disclosures and disclaimers, which you should read. This message is subject to terms available at the following link: http://www.bankofamerica.com/emaildisclaimer. By messaging with Sender you consent to the foregoing. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] OTish MP3 files for a piano scale
At this point, you might want to take advantage of one of the synth libraries of AS3 and use the mp3 files as your wave-table then add your filters envelope generators just like a normal sample-based synth. Probably overkill for an online distraction, but if you are going for quality / realism, then worth considering. Have a look at some of Andre Michelle's examples or see if you can find the Flashcodersbrighton experiments with as3 synths if you are interested. On 08/02/2011 15:35, tom rhodes wrote: multisampled pianos are available without having to record it all yourself! you'd still have to be loading a hell of a lot of wavs for it to sound half decent though, and probably code up something to handle the release of the keys properly... On 8 February 2011 16:27, Kerry Thompsonal...@cyberiantiger.biz wrote: Jason Merrill wrote: I was going to say something similar to what Kerry said - taking samples from the real world as separate MP3 files. It would seem to be pretty easy (albeit somewhat time consuming) to do that if you had a moderately OK mic (even one from Best Buy) and access to a piano or even a synthesizer. Then you'd have a library to work from. You could preload all possible notes - being they would be quite small files individually, wouldn't be too bad. Heck, you could sell the library online for some small bucks and make money. -- You could go further than recording all 88 notes. A soft note has a different timbre, attack, and decay from a loud note. For such a library to be really valuable, you would need to have different attacks at different volume levels. At least you don't have to worry about legato, since a piano can't play true legato like a violin or French Horn. A non-accented attack would do well for legato. Cordially, Kerry Thompson ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] OTish MP3 files for a piano scale
interesting i thought those examples were generating a waveform? did that ever get packaged as a library? i remember it from a few years back but haven't looked since... On 8 February 2011 17:03, Glen Pike g...@engineeredarts.co.uk wrote: At this point, you might want to take advantage of one of the synth libraries of AS3 and use the mp3 files as your wave-table then add your filters envelope generators just like a normal sample-based synth. Probably overkill for an online distraction, but if you are going for quality / realism, then worth considering. Have a look at some of Andre Michelle's examples or see if you can find the Flashcodersbrighton experiments with as3 synths if you are interested. On 08/02/2011 15:35, tom rhodes wrote: multisampled pianos are available without having to record it all yourself! you'd still have to be loading a hell of a lot of wavs for it to sound half decent though, and probably code up something to handle the release of the keys properly... On 8 February 2011 16:27, Kerry Thompsonal...@cyberiantiger.biz wrote: Jason Merrill wrote: I was going to say something similar to what Kerry said - taking samples from the real world as separate MP3 files. It would seem to be pretty easy (albeit somewhat time consuming) to do that if you had a moderately OK mic (even one from Best Buy) and access to a piano or even a synthesizer. Then you'd have a library to work from. You could preload all possible notes - being they would be quite small files individually, wouldn't be too bad. Heck, you could sell the library online for some small bucks and make money. -- You could go further than recording all 88 notes. A soft note has a different timbre, attack, and decay from a loud note. For such a library to be really valuable, you would need to have different attacks at different volume levels. At least you don't have to worry about legato, since a piano can't play true legato like a violin or French Horn. A non-accented attack would do well for legato. Cordially, Kerry Thompson ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] OTish MP3 files for a piano scale
I think they are, but you could substitute your generated waveform for sound data from a file - the hack the system used relied on loading in a single mp3 then injecting sound data into it... Glen On 08/02/2011 16:18, tom rhodes wrote: interesting i thought those examples were generating a waveform? did that ever get packaged as a library? i remember it from a few years back but haven't looked since... On 8 February 2011 17:03, Glen Pikeg...@engineeredarts.co.uk wrote: At this point, you might want to take advantage of one of the synth libraries of AS3 and use the mp3 files as your wave-table then add your filters envelope generators just like a normal sample-based synth. Probably overkill for an online distraction, but if you are going for quality / realism, then worth considering. Have a look at some of Andre Michelle's examples or see if you can find the Flashcodersbrighton experiments with as3 synths if you are interested. On 08/02/2011 15:35, tom rhodes wrote: multisampled pianos are available without having to record it all yourself! you'd still have to be loading a hell of a lot of wavs for it to sound half decent though, and probably code up something to handle the release of the keys properly... On 8 February 2011 16:27, Kerry Thompsonal...@cyberiantiger.biz wrote: Jason Merrill wrote: I was going to say something similar to what Kerry said - taking samples from the real world as separate MP3 files. It would seem to be pretty easy (albeit somewhat time consuming) to do that if you had a moderately OK mic (even one from Best Buy) and access to a piano or even a synthesizer. Then you'd have a library to work from. You could preload all possible notes - being they would be quite small files individually, wouldn't be too bad. Heck, you could sell the library online for some small bucks and make money. -- You could go further than recording all 88 notes. A soft note has a different timbre, attack, and decay from a loud note. For such a library to be really valuable, you would need to have different attacks at different volume levels. At least you don't have to worry about legato, since a piano can't play true legato like a violin or French Horn. A non-accented attack would do well for legato. Cordially, Kerry Thompson ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] OTish MP3 files for a piano scale
Jason Merrill wrote: I wonder how much of that you could realistically control using volume settings in Actionscript on the sound? Not realistic enough? - Probably realistic enough for the OP. He said he didn't need the realism. 88 keys is 7+ octaves--I'm betting one sample from each octave would be realistic enough. I would go with .wav or .aiff, though, rather than mp3, because it starts much more quickly. It wouldn't be enough for a realistic piano sound, though. A note typically has 3 parts: the attack, the sustain, and the decay. High notes have a much shorter attack and delay then low notes, as well as different overtones. Loud notes have a very distinctive attack, and volume controls wouldn't be able to emulate different attacks. I think the wave-form generators mentioned are well worth looking into--they're probably just reverse Fourier transforms. It involves a bit more coding, but you can get a pretty realistic piano sound using them. Cordially, Kerry Thompson ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] OTish MP3 files for a piano scale
Kerry Thompson skriver: ... and volume controls wouldn't be able to emulate different attacks. Yes they could. Who is to say that you can't make the control change based on the frequency? ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] OTish MP3 files for a piano scale
I think he was referring to velocity rather than frequency - velocity would be difficult from a computer keyboard - you just get on or off. If you were to change the attack and decay based on frequency, essentially, you could cheat and pre-apply the ADSR to a waveform unless you needed to calculate this, but most samples of a piano would have this anyway. On 08/02/2011 17:14, Henrik Andersson wrote: Kerry Thompson skriver: ... and volume controls wouldn't be able to emulate different attacks. Yes they could. Who is to say that you can't make the control change based on the frequency? ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] OTish MP3 files for a piano scale
Henrik Andersson wrote: ... and volume controls wouldn't be able to emulate different attacks. Yes they could. Who is to say that you can't make the control change based on the frequency? Of course you could base the volume control based on the frequency. You could emulate louder notes, but I'm not talking about a good-enough sound. I'm talking about a realistic piano sound. There is much more that goes into the attack than volume, though. There are overtones; noise (the hammer hitting the strings, for example); the speed of the rise and fall, which vary by note, and affect the harmonics differently; and other factors. The attack, sustain, and decay are much too complex to be accurately reproduced by simple volume control. Henrick, I respect your coding ability, but take into account that I am an active symphony performer with a master's in music and years of experience with synthesizing sound. My remarks are based on acoustical physics, not a casual knowledge of music. Cordially, Kerry Thompson ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] OTish MP3 files for a piano scale
Kerry Thompson skriver: Henrik Andersson wrote: ... and volume controls wouldn't be able to emulate different attacks. Yes they could. Who is to say that you can't make the control change based on the frequency? Of course you could base the volume control based on the frequency. You could emulate louder notes, but I'm not talking about a good-enough sound. I'm talking about a realistic piano sound. There is much more that goes into the attack than volume, though. There are overtones; noise (the hammer hitting the strings, for example); the speed of the rise and fall, which vary by note, and affect the harmonics differently; and other factors. The attack, sustain, and decay are much too complex to be accurately reproduced by simple volume control. Accepted, no _simple_ volume control would do. The overtones and the noise would have to be properly simulated too. It's just a matter of how much effort you want to put into it. But I think that we can agree that he is not asking for something even close to what you'd tolerate. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] Re: Flashcoders Digest, Vol 41, Issue 7
I would use midi, then. Midi capabilities are pretty much universal these days, and you'll need a lot smaller download. Plus, mp3's have a lag on startup--not bad, but it gets annoying pretty quickly. Midi won't have that problem. Except for the tiny detail that Flash doesn't do MIDI. Heh. In the past I've seen occasional posts (and I think there is an official petition to Adobe) requesting MIDI support in Flash. Anyone heard any recent news/updates? I suppose it might be possible in AIR? Using MIDI libraries developed in C or whatever. Kevin ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] OTish MP3 files for a piano scale
Hi Guys - I go out for the afternoon to chat with the client and the list is alive with info about pianos! This is a low budget thing and not an attempt at emulating a Steinway. The actual project I can't really say much about but this is just a proof of concept thing that will decide what happens next. Thanks for all the enthusiasm guys! Paul ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] OTish MP3 files for a piano scale
Paul Andrews wrote: Hi Guys - I go out for the afternoon to chat with the client and the list is alive with info about pianos! This is a low budget thing and not an attempt at emulating a Steinway. I know. We know. But you know how we are--we get a bone between our teeth and we can't let go :-) Cordially, Kerry Thompson ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] Re: OTish MP3 files for a piano scale
I have also made a piano keyboard years ago and had the same problem. In the end I found a series of C notes from a grand piano and used SoundForge to change the pitch on the notes, thus extrapolating all the notes of the keyboard from those Cs. This message is for the named persons use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or; lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the sender. You must not directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. GOULBURN OVENS INSTITUTE OF TAFE and any of its subsidiaries each reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the message states otherwise and the sender is authorised to state them to be the views of any such entity. # This e-mail message has been scanned for Viruses and Content and cleared by MailMarshal # ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Re: OTish MP3 files for a piano scale
This is why I love Flashcoders, and still lurk here despite not being actively involved in Flash development anymore. Great discussion :) ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Re: OTish MP3 files for a piano scale
+1 On Feb 8, 2011, at 4:48 PM, Peter B wrote: This is why I love Flashcoders, and still lurk here despite not being actively involved in Flash development anymore. Great discussion :) ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
