Re: [Flashcoders] Allowing website user to record video and voice

2009-11-16 Thread Bob Wohl
They rock. The owners are super cool and one of them is one hell of a
developer. They are super active in the flash community and are always
prompt on any issues you have. Also, they know how to throw one hell of a
party.

B.

On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Kevin Bath  wrote:

> As far as hosted solutions go - these guys might be worth a look. There are
> plenty of code samples to get you started on their site. Anyone had any
> experience of them?
>
> http://www.influxis.com/
>
> Kevin Bath.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com
> [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Glen Pike
> Sent: 16 November 2009 16:30
> To: Flash Coders List
> Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Allowing website user to record video and voice
>
> FMS is Flash Media Server - you need this to record audio and video from
> Flash to the Server.
>
> http://www.adobe.com/products/flashmediaserver/
>
> You can download a free development version to test with - with the old
> versions, you could use this for upto 5 connections at once (I think).
>
> There are open source alternatives such as Red5 which do the same thing:
>
> http://osflash.org/red5
>
> Documentation has improved marginally, but it can be obscure unless you
> get lucky and install a working version straight away...
> It's can be a PITA to setup if it does not work straight away - tricky
> to find any decent instructions relevant to your OS, but apart from
> that, to record basic audio & video stuff it's pretty easy (there are
> example apps on the system).
>
> You can join the Red 5 mailing list - make sure you post on this one
> rather than the normal OSFlash list if you want answers :)
>
> The alternative might be to use a "hosted" system where the ISP provides
> the media server application, probably with basic applications that let
> you record stuff.
>
> Flash 10.1 should allow you to get the audio from the microphone of the
> computer (not sure about access to the webcam directly), but you would
> still possibly need server side code to record...
>
> HTH
>
> Glen
>
> Paul Steven wrote:
> > Can you explain what job the FMS would do please? Is this required for
> the
> > recording side of things or the playback?
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com
> > [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Henrik
> > Andersson
> > Sent: 16 November 2009 14:49
> > To: Flash Coders List
> > Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Allowing website user to record video and
> voice
> >
> > Paul Steven wrote:
> >
> >> My main question is do I need some special software on the server side
> or
> >>
> > is
> >
> >> this something that can be done using the flash player alone? I have no
> >> restrictions on the version of Flash to create this with/for.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > It could be done with the new fp 10.1 that is in beta, but it would be
> > crap and suck. You need FMS on the server if you are even remotely
> > serious about this. FMS can take care of all the medis recording and
> such.
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RE: [Flashcoders] Allowing website user to record video and voice

2009-11-16 Thread David Cohn
Kevin,

Yes, we've been using influxis for several years now, with no big problems-- 
and no complaints from users about access (that I know of).
The only slight problem is it seems that if you don't log onto their site for a 
long time, your password will expire.  Just call them and it's reset, and all 
is ok, but it's something of a pain...

HTH,
--Dave



> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:57:46 -
> From: "Kevin Bath" 
> Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Allowing website user to record video and
>   voice
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> As far as hosted solutions go - these guys might be worth a look. There are
> plenty of code samples to get you started on their site. Anyone had any
> experience of them?
> 
> http://www.influxis.com/
> 
> Kevin Bath.

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RE: [Flashcoders] Allowing website user to record video and voice

2009-11-16 Thread Kevin Bath
As far as hosted solutions go - these guys might be worth a look. There are
plenty of code samples to get you started on their site. Anyone had any
experience of them?

http://www.influxis.com/

Kevin Bath.


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From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com
[mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Glen Pike
Sent: 16 November 2009 16:30
To: Flash Coders List
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Allowing website user to record video and voice

FMS is Flash Media Server - you need this to record audio and video from 
Flash to the Server.

http://www.adobe.com/products/flashmediaserver/

You can download a free development version to test with - with the old 
versions, you could use this for upto 5 connections at once (I think).

There are open source alternatives such as Red5 which do the same thing:

http://osflash.org/red5

Documentation has improved marginally, but it can be obscure unless you 
get lucky and install a working version straight away...
It's can be a PITA to setup if it does not work straight away - tricky 
to find any decent instructions relevant to your OS, but apart from 
that, to record basic audio & video stuff it's pretty easy (there are 
example apps on the system).

You can join the Red 5 mailing list - make sure you post on this one 
rather than the normal OSFlash list if you want answers :)

The alternative might be to use a "hosted" system where the ISP provides 
the media server application, probably with basic applications that let 
you record stuff.

Flash 10.1 should allow you to get the audio from the microphone of the 
computer (not sure about access to the webcam directly), but you would 
still possibly need server side code to record...

HTH

Glen

Paul Steven wrote:
> Can you explain what job the FMS would do please? Is this required for the
> recording side of things or the playback?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com
> [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Henrik
> Andersson
> Sent: 16 November 2009 14:49
> To: Flash Coders List
> Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Allowing website user to record video and voice
>
> Paul Steven wrote:
>   
>> My main question is do I need some special software on the server side or
>> 
> is
>   
>> this something that can be done using the flash player alone? I have no
>> restrictions on the version of Flash to create this with/for.
>>
>> 
>
> It could be done with the new fp 10.1 that is in beta, but it would be 
> crap and suck. You need FMS on the server if you are even remotely 
> serious about this. FMS can take care of all the medis recording and such.
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RE: [Flashcoders] Allowing website user to record video and voice

2009-11-16 Thread Paul Steven
Thank you Glen and Henrik

I am starting to appreciate that it is more complex than I thought to record
audio and video to an online app. I did create an audio recorder in Flex
Builder and Zinc about a year ago and that was really simple however that
was for a desktop application so that must have made things a lot easier.

I think I will need to get back to my client to see if they are prepared to
go for a media server option. Fortunately still at the costing stage so I
have not committed myself yet:)

Thanks

Paul

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From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com
[mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Glen Pike
Sent: 16 November 2009 16:30
To: Flash Coders List
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Allowing website user to record video and voice

FMS is Flash Media Server - you need this to record audio and video from 
Flash to the Server.

http://www.adobe.com/products/flashmediaserver/

You can download a free development version to test with - with the old 
versions, you could use this for upto 5 connections at once (I think).

There are open source alternatives such as Red5 which do the same thing:

http://osflash.org/red5

Documentation has improved marginally, but it can be obscure unless you 
get lucky and install a working version straight away...
It's can be a PITA to setup if it does not work straight away - tricky 
to find any decent instructions relevant to your OS, but apart from 
that, to record basic audio & video stuff it's pretty easy (there are 
example apps on the system).

You can join the Red 5 mailing list - make sure you post on this one 
rather than the normal OSFlash list if you want answers :)

The alternative might be to use a "hosted" system where the ISP provides 
the media server application, probably with basic applications that let 
you record stuff.

Flash 10.1 should allow you to get the audio from the microphone of the 
computer (not sure about access to the webcam directly), but you would 
still possibly need server side code to record...

HTH

Glen

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Re: [Flashcoders] Allowing website user to record video and voice

2009-11-16 Thread Glen Pike
FMS is Flash Media Server - you need this to record audio and video from 
Flash to the Server.


http://www.adobe.com/products/flashmediaserver/

You can download a free development version to test with - with the old 
versions, you could use this for upto 5 connections at once (I think).


There are open source alternatives such as Red5 which do the same thing:

http://osflash.org/red5

Documentation has improved marginally, but it can be obscure unless you 
get lucky and install a working version straight away...
It's can be a PITA to setup if it does not work straight away - tricky 
to find any decent instructions relevant to your OS, but apart from 
that, to record basic audio & video stuff it's pretty easy (there are 
example apps on the system).


You can join the Red 5 mailing list - make sure you post on this one 
rather than the normal OSFlash list if you want answers :)


The alternative might be to use a "hosted" system where the ISP provides 
the media server application, probably with basic applications that let 
you record stuff.


Flash 10.1 should allow you to get the audio from the microphone of the 
computer (not sure about access to the webcam directly), but you would 
still possibly need server side code to record...


HTH

Glen

Paul Steven wrote:

Can you explain what job the FMS would do please? Is this required for the
recording side of things or the playback?

-Original Message-
From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com
[mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Henrik
Andersson
Sent: 16 November 2009 14:49
To: Flash Coders List
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Allowing website user to record video and voice

Paul Steven wrote:
  

My main question is do I need some special software on the server side or


is
  

this something that can be done using the flash player alone? I have no
restrictions on the version of Flash to create this with/for.




It could be done with the new fp 10.1 that is in beta, but it would be 
crap and suck. You need FMS on the server if you are even remotely 
serious about this. FMS can take care of all the medis recording and such.

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Re: [Flashcoders] Allowing website user to record video and voice

2009-11-16 Thread Henrik Andersson

Paul Steven wrote:

Can you explain what job the FMS would do please? Is this required for the
recording side of things or the playback?



FMS is short for Flash Media Server. It is what it sounds like, a server 
application that takes care of media distribution. It handles media 
storage and letting clients access the media. It both records streams 
and plays them back.


In addition, the protocol that it uses to comunicate with the player 
supports Remote Procedure Calls, letting scripting comunicate over the 
connection as well. The server allows you to add scripting to it's 
behavior using it's own variant of actionscript, in as 2 style. But you 
are free to use any language that a standard loadable library module 
supports if you get sick of that.


There are free clones of it, RED5 being one of the more famous ones.

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RE: [Flashcoders] Allowing website user to record video and voice

2009-11-16 Thread Paul Steven
Can you explain what job the FMS would do please? Is this required for the
recording side of things or the playback?

-Original Message-
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Andersson
Sent: 16 November 2009 14:49
To: Flash Coders List
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Allowing website user to record video and voice

Paul Steven wrote:
> My main question is do I need some special software on the server side or
is
> this something that can be done using the flash player alone? I have no
> restrictions on the version of Flash to create this with/for.
>

It could be done with the new fp 10.1 that is in beta, but it would be 
crap and suck. You need FMS on the server if you are even remotely 
serious about this. FMS can take care of all the medis recording and such.
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Re: [Flashcoders] Allowing website user to record video and voice

2009-11-16 Thread Henrik Andersson

Paul Steven wrote:

My main question is do I need some special software on the server side or is
this something that can be done using the flash player alone? I have no
restrictions on the version of Flash to create this with/for.



It could be done with the new fp 10.1 that is in beta, but it would be 
crap and suck. You need FMS on the server if you are even remotely 
serious about this. FMS can take care of all the medis recording and such.

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RE: [Flashcoders] Allowing website user to record video and voice

2009-11-16 Thread Paul Steven
Thanks jonathan

Should be fine on that front as link only being sent to clients and not
going to be as part of a publicly available game.

Anyway need to work out if I can actually make it first:)

Cheers

Paul

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howe
Sent: 16 November 2009 13:42
To: Flash Coders List
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Paul,

Hopefully they have already thought of this but keep your eye on  COPPA
(child privacy) regulations. Could be a doozy.

http://www.coppa.org/comply.htm

-jonathan



On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 8:20 AM, Paul Steven
wrote:

> I have been commissioned to create an online game type thing that allows
> users to records a video and audio of them singing a song, using their web
> cam and a microphone I guess. I haven't done any flash work before doing
> this kind of thing so just wanted to get a heads up on what I need to
> achieve this. Essentially I just need to get the video footage and audio
to
> the client server. The client will deal with it after this. Here is a link
> to a site with something vaguely similar
> http://www.overlay.tv/clients/disney/jonas/demo.html
>
> My main question is do I need some special software on the server side or
> is
> this something that can be done using the flash player alone? I have no
> restrictions on the version of Flash to create this with/for.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Paul
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Re: [Flashcoders] Allowing website user to record video and voice

2009-11-16 Thread jonathan howe
Paul,

Hopefully they have already thought of this but keep your eye on  COPPA
(child privacy) regulations. Could be a doozy.

http://www.coppa.org/comply.htm

-jonathan



On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 8:20 AM, Paul Steven wrote:

> I have been commissioned to create an online game type thing that allows
> users to records a video and audio of them singing a song, using their web
> cam and a microphone I guess. I haven't done any flash work before doing
> this kind of thing so just wanted to get a heads up on what I need to
> achieve this. Essentially I just need to get the video footage and audio to
> the client server. The client will deal with it after this. Here is a link
> to a site with something vaguely similar
> http://www.overlay.tv/clients/disney/jonas/demo.html
>
> My main question is do I need some special software on the server side or
> is
> this something that can be done using the flash player alone? I have no
> restrictions on the version of Flash to create this with/for.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Paul
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[Flashcoders] Allowing website user to record video and voice

2009-11-16 Thread Paul Steven
I have been commissioned to create an online game type thing that allows
users to records a video and audio of them singing a song, using their web
cam and a microphone I guess. I haven't done any flash work before doing
this kind of thing so just wanted to get a heads up on what I need to
achieve this. Essentially I just need to get the video footage and audio to
the client server. The client will deal with it after this. Here is a link
to a site with something vaguely similar
http://www.overlay.tv/clients/disney/jonas/demo.html

My main question is do I need some special software on the server side or is
this something that can be done using the flash player alone? I have no
restrictions on the version of Flash to create this with/for.

Thanks in advance

Paul

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