Re: [Flashcoders] Best hardware for Flash
Single core Athlon 64 cpus are $60-$100 new. If you want new hardware and you are on a budget they are probably the way I'd go. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Best hardware for Flash
I'm looking into specifying hardware for running Flash projector based kiosks. The aim is to get the best possible Flash performance while avoiding spending money on technology that isn't going to make any difference. Given that the usual performance benchmarks don't really apply to Flash I was wondering if anyone had any particular insight or had done any tests. I have neither of these, but my feeling is that you're over-thinking it. Computers are cheap enough that even spending a small amount of money on a 'generically decent' machine should yield something that will work well as a dedicated kiosk. No point trying to squeeze a few pennies into this card rather than that one (or not on the basis of 'how well it works with Flash', anyway). Just buy the best machine you can afford. If you want speed optimisations, I can absolutely guarantee you'll achieve more by improving your code than by messing with hardware. And if you can't, then you're running something that probably shouldn't be in Flash in the first place - you need to switch to something faster. Danny ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Best hardware for Flash
I have neither of these, but my feeling is that you're over-thinking it. Computers are cheap enough that even spending a small amount of money on a 'generically decent' machine should yield something that will work well as a dedicated kiosk. Hmm, I think this used to be the case but actually several things are muddying the waters - Generically decent business PCs tend to come these days with fast processors but rather low spec graphics and not all of them have expansion slots - If you want decent graphics you tend to have to buy a gaming system which from the likes of Dell can push the price up a lot - The advent of dual processor systems has also meant that those decent PCs tend to come with a dual processor chip with a fairly low clock speed. Great for running several applications at once - probably not really the best way of running Flash - If you're in the kiosk game there's a lot of pressure to use small form factor PCs. These tend to be difficult to expand and don't have good graphics either. If you're going to use one of these it would be nice to know exactly how much you're sacrificing. For what its worth, these days I tend to go for a HP Athlon based Tower model with lots of expansion ports and then put a mid range nVidia graphics card in it. Seems to go pretty well but I haven't done a lot of comparisions. Cheers Joe Joe Cutting Computer exhibits and installations www.joecutting.com The Fishergate Centre, 4 Fishergate, York, YO10 4FB 01904 624681 As of 30th October 2006 I have a new office so please note my new address and phone number ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
[Flashcoders] Best hardware for Flash
Hello, I'm looking into specifying hardware for running Flash projector based kiosks. The aim is to get the best possible Flash performance while avoiding spending money on technology that isn't going to make any difference. Given that the usual performance benchmarks don't really apply to Flash I was wondering if anyone had any particular insight or had done any tests. At the moment I've been working on the following vague assumptions based on my experience and reading of various reviews. Processor speed is important, but the type of processor is as well. Roughly speaking, Pentium Ds are the slowest per Hz, Athlons and Pentium M's are next followed by Core 2's which are the fastest. Dual processors or more may give you a slight increase due to the system using the other processor for operating system tasks but this isn't going to be much more than 10% because Flash isn't multi threaded. Similarly 64 bit systems may increase speed a bit as the operating system may get a bit of an advantage but this isn't going to be much as neither standard Windows nor Flash is 64 bit (yet). On board memory chips usually use a shared memory architecture which uses the system memory for graphics. This seems substantially slower than graphics cards with their own dedicated video RAM. However, given that Flash doesn't use 3D engines its not really worth shelling out a lot for a really high spec card. However adding a mid range graphics card can improve performance. At the moment I'm using nVidia because the drivers that come with their cards seem to be the most reliable. Unless your project is really huge you're not going to need much memory over 1Gb or a particularly large or fast hard drive because most Flash projects can loaded into the memory at start. I'd be interested if anyone can add to these thoughts or has information that contradicts them. Best wishes Joe Joe Cutting Computer exhibits and installations www.joecutting.com The Fishergate Centre, 4 Fishergate, York, YO10 4FB 01904 624681 As of 30th October 2006 I have a new office so please note my new address and phone number ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Best hardware for Flash
i'm very interest in this , i want to detailed understand this!!! 赵洪日 2006-11-15 发件人： Joe Cutting 发送时间： 2006-11-14 18:59:55 收件人： flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com 抄送： 主题： [Flashcoders] Best hardware for Flash Hello, I'm looking into specifying hardware for running Flash projector based kiosks. The aim is to get the best possible Flash performance while avoiding spending money on technology that isn't going to make any difference. Given that the usual performance benchmarks don't really apply to Flash I was wondering if anyone had any particular insight or had done any tests. At the moment I've been working on the following vague assumptions based on my experience and reading of various reviews. Processor speed is important, but the type of processor is as well. Roughly speaking, Pentium Ds are the slowest per Hz, Athlons and Pentium M's are next followed by Core 2's which are the fastest. Dual processors or more may give you a slight increase due to the system using the other processor for operating system tasks but this isn't going to be much more than 10% because Flash isn't multi threaded. Similarly 64 bit systems may increase speed a bit as the operating system may get a bit of an advantage but this isn't going to be much as neither standard Windows nor Flash is 64 bit (yet). On board memory chips usually use a shared memory architecture which uses the system memory for graphics. This seems substantially slower than graphics cards with their own dedicated video RAM. However, given that Flash doesn't use 3D engines its not really worth shelling out a lot for a really high spec card. However adding a mid range graphics card can improve performance. At the moment I'm using nVidia because the drivers that come with their cards seem to be the most reliable. Unless your project is really huge you're not going to need much memory over 1Gb or a particularly large or fast hard drive because most Flash projects can loaded into the memory at start. I'd be interested if anyone can add to these thoughts or has information that contradicts them. Best wishes Joe Joe Cutting Computer exhibits and installations www.joecutting.com The Fishergate Centre, 4 Fishergate, York, YO10 4FB 01904 624681 As of 30th October 2006 I have a new office so please note my new address and phone number ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
