[Flashcoders] Q:Flash Player update and Impact on 3D in Flash
Great news! http://www.kaourantin.net/2007/08/what-just-happened-to-video-on-web_20.html I was just wondering what impact if any this will have on the future of 3d in Flash. One of the drawbacks of 3d in Flash (Sandy , PV3D) has been the lack of hardware acceleration . Any thoughts? [e] jbach at bitstream.ca [c] 416.668.0034 [w] www.bitstream.ca "...all improvisation is life in search of a style." - Bruce Mau,'LifeStyle' ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Q:Flash Player update and Impact on 3D in Flash
Um... that is a really good announcement. But I don't understand your question's relevance - I don't see any announcement about hardware acceleration or 3D? Don't mistake MPEG4 video support for MPEG4 multimedia/3D support. Ian On 8/21/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Great news! > > http://www.kaourantin.net/2007/08/what-just-happened-to-video-on-web_20.html > > I was just wondering what impact if any this will have on the future of 3d > in Flash. > > One of the drawbacks of 3d in Flash (Sandy , PV3D) has been the lack of > hardware acceleration . > Any thoughts? > > > [e] jbach at bitstream.ca > [c] 416.668.0034 > [w] www.bitstream.ca > > "...all improvisation is life in search of a style." > - Bruce Mau,'LifeStyle' > ___ > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > http://www.figleaf.com > http://training.figleaf.com > ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Q:Flash Player update and Impact on 3D in Flash
On Aug 21, 2007, at 9:10 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was just wondering what impact if any this will have on the future of 3d in Flash. Well, all the video updates will have zero effect. Those have nothing to do with 3d. This is basically the inclusion of the MainConcept MPEG4 decoding engine - which is the same code in FlipFactory and almost all other licensed h.264 decoders. The multi-threaded (multi-core CPU) work they are doing will have an effect though. cheers, jon ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Q:Flash Player update and Impact on 3D in Flash
"The updated support will allow Flash Player to take advantage of hardware acceleration provided in computer video cards" On 8/21/07, Ian Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Um... that is a really good announcement. But I don't understand your > question's relevance - I don't see any announcement about hardware > acceleration or 3D? > > Don't mistake MPEG4 video support for MPEG4 multimedia/3D support. > > Ian > > On 8/21/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Great news! > > > > > http://www.kaourantin.net/2007/08/what-just-happened-to-video-on-web_20.html > > > > I was just wondering what impact if any this will have on the future of > 3d > > in Flash. > > > > One of the drawbacks of 3d in Flash (Sandy , PV3D) has been the lack of > > hardware acceleration . > > Any thoughts? > > > > > > [e] jbach at bitstream.ca > > [c] 416.668.0034 > > [w] www.bitstream.ca > > > > "...all improvisation is life in search of a style." > > - Bruce Mau,'LifeStyle' > > ___ > > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > > http://www.figleaf.com > > http://training.figleaf.com > > > ___ > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > http://www.figleaf.com > http://training.figleaf.com > ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Q:Flash Player update and Impact on 3D in Flash
In the context of video acceleration since the hardware, of not available then software, will be decoding and displaying the video. There's no mention of hardware being used to accelerate non video playback. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of eric e. dolecki Sent: 21 August 2007 15:49 To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Q:Flash Player update and Impact on 3D in Flash "The updated support will allow Flash Player to take advantage of hardware acceleration provided in computer video cards" ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Q:Flash Player update and Impact on 3D in Flash
Eric - firstly, what's that quote from? I can't find it on either Tinic's site or the Yahoo site he links to. Secondly, the Adobe press announcement seems quite clear: "as well as hardware accelerated, multi-core enhanced full screen video playback." That's hardware acceleration _for the playback of video_. That's nothing to do with talking to the 3D rendering pipeline. Ian On 8/21/07, eric e. dolecki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "The updated support will allow Flash Player to take advantage of hardware > acceleration provided in computer video cards" > > ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Q:Flash Player update and Impact on 3D in Flash
Ahh true. H.264 support for playback with the aid of video cards. Wondering if BitmapData stuff will see any improvement along with video (pushing pixels to screen with less software). I would guess yes. If so, Papervision3D use bitmap data. - eric On 8/21/07, Paul Venton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In the context of video acceleration since the hardware, of not available > then software, will be decoding and displaying the video. There's no > mention of hardware being used to accelerate non video playback. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of eric e. dolecki > Sent: 21 August 2007 15:49 > To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Q:Flash Player update and Impact on 3D in Flash > > "The updated support will allow Flash Player to take advantage of hardware > acceleration provided in computer video cards" > > > > > ___ > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > http://www.figleaf.com > http://training.figleaf.com > ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Q:Flash Player update and Impact on 3D in Flash
Saw that quote in an Apple Dev forum, so it could be wrong. I'll take this news at face value for now then - it kicks ASS. - eric On 8/21/07, Ian Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Eric - firstly, what's that quote from? I can't find it on either Tinic's > site or the Yahoo site he links to. > > Secondly, the Adobe press announcement seems quite clear: > > "as well as hardware accelerated, multi-core enhanced full screen video > playback." > > That's hardware acceleration _for the playback of video_. > > That's nothing to do with talking to the 3D rendering pipeline. > > Ian > > On 8/21/07, eric e. dolecki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > "The updated support will allow Flash Player to take advantage of > hardware > > acceleration provided in computer video cards" > > > > > ___ > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > http://www.figleaf.com > http://training.figleaf.com > ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
