Re: [Flashcoders] flv video encoding for flash 7

2006-02-15 Thread Fabio Sonnati

I don't understand why MM had inserted such a inefficient spark encoder in
flash 8 video encoding tool...perhaps to enphatize the vp6 codec.
Don't ever use the flash7 video encoder of flash8. Use sorenson squeeze
instead or, even better, FFMPEG. The result is a million year ahead (bu
obviously wrost than vp6).
For a short intro to the effectiveness of FFMPEG (which is an open source 
tool).

read my blog: http://flashvideo.progettosinergia.com

Fabio Sonnati



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Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] flv video encoding for flash 7


I used the flash 8 video encoding tool and set it for flash 7 high quality 
(700k) and the video is very pixelated, I've uploaded it here for review :


http://bluetubecom.web123.discountasp.net/clients/soapbox/videotest.html

the original quicktime is here :

http://bluetubecom.web123.discountasp.net/clients/soapbox/img/PortVideo/SBS_open_for_flash-test.mov

the flv version is really pixelated, not acceptable at all.  Someone 
suggested using sorenson squeeze instead of the flash video encoder as it 
may produce better results but I'm pretty green on flash video.


The settings I used for that where :

Sorenson spark codec, frame rate same as source (29.xx), keyframe 
placement automatic, quality, custom, 1000 kilobits per sec, no video 
resize, audio mp3, 128kbs stereo.


Thanks
Grant.



- Original Message -
From: Fabio Sonnati [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Sent: 2/15/06 2:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] flv video encoding for flash 7


I think its sorenson
let we know what you used to encode your video and related settings.

Fabio Sonnati
http://flashvideo.progettosinergia.com


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From:

To:
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 7:07 AM
Subject: [Flashcoders] flv video encoding for flash 7


>I have a quicktime that I need to encode to an flv and have had very 
>poor

>results (pixelation/noise) using flash 7 sorenson.  I found this site :
>
> http://www.creativedigitalgroup.com
>
> the quaility of video on there looks very good, is it my source 
> material

> that is too hard to encode and produce a good quality flv ?  Or is that
> site really using the on2 Vp6 codec ?  Is there a way to tell in an flv 
> is

> on2 or sorenson without some special tools ?
>
> Grant.
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Re: [Flashcoders] flv video encoding for flash 7

2006-02-15 Thread eric dolecki
I don't see a 2pass VBR in the Flash 8 encoder... squeeze may be a good
option.

-edolecki

On 2/15/06, eric dolecki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Ill give it a go with FLV exporter... thats a honkin' large video :)
>
> -edolecki
>
> On 15 Feb 2006 16:11:57 -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
> wrote:
> >
> > I used the flash 8 video encoding tool and set it for flash 7 high
> > quality (700k) and the video is very pixelated, I've uploaded it here for
> > review :
> >
> > http://bluetubecom.web123.discountasp.net/clients/soapbox/videotest.html
> >
> > the original quicktime is here :
> >
> >
> > http://bluetubecom.web123.discountasp.net/clients/soapbox/img/PortVideo/SBS_open_for_flash-test.mov
> >
> > the flv version is really pixelated, not acceptable at all.  Someone
> > suggested using sorenson squeeze instead of the flash video encoder as it
> > may produce better results but I'm pretty green on flash video.
> >
> > The settings I used for that where :
> >
> > Sorenson spark codec, frame rate same as source (29.xx), keyframe
> > placement automatic, quality, custom, 1000 kilobits per sec, no video
> > resize, audio mp3, 128kbs stereo.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Grant.
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -
> > From: Fabio Sonnati [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
> > Sent: 2/15/06 2:54 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] flv video encoding for flash 7
> >
> > > I think its sorenson
> > > let we know what you used to encode your video and related settings.
> > >
> > > Fabio Sonnati
> > > http://flashvideo.progettosinergia.com
> > >
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From:
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 7:07 AM
> > > Subject: [Flashcoders] flv video encoding for flash 7
> > >
> > >
> > > >I have a quicktime that I need to encode to an flv and have had very
> > poor
> > > >results (pixelation/noise) using flash 7 sorenson.  I found this site
> > :
> > > >
> > > > http://www.creativedigitalgroup.com
> > > >
> > > > the quaility of video on there looks very good, is it my source
> > material
> > > > that is too hard to encode and produce a good quality flv ?  Or is
> > that
> > > > site really using the on2 Vp6 codec ?  Is there a way to tell in an
> > flv is
> > > > on2 or sorenson without some special tools ?
> > > >
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Re: [Flashcoders] flv video encoding for flash 7

2006-02-15 Thread eric dolecki
Ill give it a go with FLV exporter... thats a honkin' large video :)

-edolecki

On 15 Feb 2006 16:11:57 -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> I used the flash 8 video encoding tool and set it for flash 7 high quality
> (700k) and the video is very pixelated, I've uploaded it here for review :
>
> http://bluetubecom.web123.discountasp.net/clients/soapbox/videotest.html
>
> the original quicktime is here :
>
>
> http://bluetubecom.web123.discountasp.net/clients/soapbox/img/PortVideo/SBS_open_for_flash-test.mov
>
> the flv version is really pixelated, not acceptable at all.  Someone
> suggested using sorenson squeeze instead of the flash video encoder as it
> may produce better results but I'm pretty green on flash video.
>
> The settings I used for that where :
>
> Sorenson spark codec, frame rate same as source (29.xx), keyframe
> placement automatic, quality, custom, 1000 kilobits per sec, no video
> resize, audio mp3, 128kbs stereo.
>
> Thanks
> Grant.
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Fabio Sonnati [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
> Sent: 2/15/06 2:54 AM
> Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] flv video encoding for flash 7
>
> > I think its sorenson
> > let we know what you used to encode your video and related settings.
> >
> > Fabio Sonnati
> > http://flashvideo.progettosinergia.com
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From:
> > To:
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 7:07 AM
> > Subject: [Flashcoders] flv video encoding for flash 7
> >
> >
> > >I have a quicktime that I need to encode to an flv and have had very
> poor
> > >results (pixelation/noise) using flash 7 sorenson.  I found this site :
> > >
> > > http://www.creativedigitalgroup.com
> > >
> > > the quaility of video on there looks very good, is it my source
> material
> > > that is too hard to encode and produce a good quality flv ?  Or is
> that
> > > site really using the on2 Vp6 codec ?  Is there a way to tell in an
> flv is
> > > on2 or sorenson without some special tools ?
> > >
> > > Grant.
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Re: [Flashcoders] flv video encoding for flash 7

2006-02-15 Thread Matt Ganz
my recommendation would also be to use sorenson squeeze. here's the
equation i use (taken from a video tutorial on macromedia.com) to
calculate data rate:

( ( movieWidth x movieHeight x fps ) / 1000 ) / 2.5

check these two links for more:
http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/flash/articles/video_guide_02.html#encoding
http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/flash/articles/flv_encoding_02.html

On 15 Feb 2006 16:11:57 -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I used the flash 8 video encoding tool and set it for flash 7 high quality 
> (700k) and the video is very pixelated, I've uploaded it here for review :
>
> http://bluetubecom.web123.discountasp.net/clients/soapbox/videotest.html
>
> the original quicktime is here :
>
> http://bluetubecom.web123.discountasp.net/clients/soapbox/img/PortVideo/SBS_open_for_flash-test.mov
>
> the flv version is really pixelated, not acceptable at all.  Someone 
> suggested using sorenson squeeze instead of the flash video encoder as it may 
> produce better results but I'm pretty green on flash video.
>
> The settings I used for that where :
>
> Sorenson spark codec, frame rate same as source (29.xx), keyframe placement 
> automatic, quality, custom, 1000 kilobits per sec, no video resize, audio 
> mp3, 128kbs stereo.
>
> Thanks
> Grant.
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Fabio Sonnati [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
> Sent: 2/15/06 2:54 AM
> Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] flv video encoding for flash 7
>
> > I think its sorenson
> > let we know what you used to encode your video and related settings.
> >
> > Fabio Sonnati
> > http://flashvideo.progettosinergia.com
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From:
> > To:
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 7:07 AM
> > Subject: [Flashcoders] flv video encoding for flash 7
> >
> >
> > >I have a quicktime that I need to encode to an flv and have had very poor
> > >results (pixelation/noise) using flash 7 sorenson.  I found this site :
> > >
> > > http://www.creativedigitalgroup.com
> > >
> > > the quaility of video on there looks very good, is it my source material
> > > that is too hard to encode and produce a good quality flv ?  Or is that
> > > site really using the on2 Vp6 codec ?  Is there a way to tell in an flv is
> > > on2 or sorenson without some special tools ?
> > >
> > > Grant.
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Re: [Flashcoders] flv video encoding for flash 7

2006-02-15 Thread Dwayne Neckles



Original Message Follows
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] flv video encoding for flash 7
Date: 15 Feb 2006 16:11:57 -

I used the flash 8 video encoding tool and set it for flash 7 high quality 
(700k) and the video is very pixelated, I've uploaded it here for review :


http://bluetubecom.web123.discountasp.net/clients/soapbox/videotest.html

the original quicktime is here :

http://bluetubecom.web123.discountasp.net/clients/soapbox/img/PortVideo/SBS_open_for_flash-test.mov

the flv version is really pixelated, not acceptable at all.  Someone 
suggested using sorenson squeeze instead of the flash video encoder as it 
may produce better results but I'm pretty green on flash video.


The settings I used for that where :

Sorenson spark codec, frame rate same as source (29.xx), keyframe placement 
automatic, quality, custom, 1000 kilobits per sec, no video resize, audio 
mp3, 128kbs stereo.


Thanks
Grant.



- Original Message -
From: Fabio Sonnati [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Sent: 2/15/06 2:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] flv video encoding for flash 7

> I think its sorenson
> let we know what you used to encode your video and related settings.
>
> Fabio Sonnati
> http://flashvideo.progettosinergia.com
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From:
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 7:07 AM
> Subject: [Flashcoders] flv video encoding for flash 7
>
>
> >I have a quicktime that I need to encode to an flv and have had very 
poor

> >results (pixelation/noise) using flash 7 sorenson.  I found this site :
> >
> > http://www.creativedigitalgroup.com
> >
> > the quaility of video on there looks very good, is it my source 
material

> > that is too hard to encode and produce a good quality flv ?  Or is that
> > site really using the on2 Vp6 codec ?  Is there a way to tell in an flv 
is

> > on2 or sorenson without some special tools ?
> >
> > Grant.
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Re: [Flashcoders] flv video encoding for flash 7

2006-02-15 Thread grant
I used the flash 8 video encoding tool and set it for flash 7 high quality 
(700k) and the video is very pixelated, I've uploaded it here for review :

http://bluetubecom.web123.discountasp.net/clients/soapbox/videotest.html

the original quicktime is here :

http://bluetubecom.web123.discountasp.net/clients/soapbox/img/PortVideo/SBS_open_for_flash-test.mov

the flv version is really pixelated, not acceptable at all.  Someone suggested 
using sorenson squeeze instead of the flash video encoder as it may produce 
better results but I'm pretty green on flash video.

The settings I used for that where :

Sorenson spark codec, frame rate same as source (29.xx), keyframe placement 
automatic, quality, custom, 1000 kilobits per sec, no video resize, audio mp3, 
128kbs stereo.

Thanks
Grant.



- Original Message -
From: Fabio Sonnati [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Sent: 2/15/06 2:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] flv video encoding for flash 7

> I think its sorenson
> let we know what you used to encode your video and related settings.
> 
> Fabio Sonnati
> http://flashvideo.progettosinergia.com
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 7:07 AM
> Subject: [Flashcoders] flv video encoding for flash 7
> 
> 
> >I have a quicktime that I need to encode to an flv and have had very poor 
> >results (pixelation/noise) using flash 7 sorenson.  I found this site :
> >
> > http://www.creativedigitalgroup.com
> >
> > the quaility of video on there looks very good, is it my source material 
> > that is too hard to encode and produce a good quality flv ?  Or is that 
> > site really using the on2 Vp6 codec ?  Is there a way to tell in an flv is 
> > on2 or sorenson without some special tools ?
> >
> > Grant.
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Re: [Flashcoders] flv video encoding for flash 7

2006-02-14 Thread Fabio Sonnati

I think its sorenson
let we know what you used to encode your video and related settings.

Fabio Sonnati
http://flashvideo.progettosinergia.com


- Original Message - 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 7:07 AM
Subject: [Flashcoders] flv video encoding for flash 7


I have a quicktime that I need to encode to an flv and have had very poor 
results (pixelation/noise) using flash 7 sorenson.  I found this site :


http://www.creativedigitalgroup.com

the quaility of video on there looks very good, is it my source material 
that is too hard to encode and produce a good quality flv ?  Or is that 
site really using the on2 Vp6 codec ?  Is there a way to tell in an flv is 
on2 or sorenson without some special tools ?


Grant.
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[Flashcoders] flv video encoding for flash 7

2006-02-14 Thread grant
I have a quicktime that I need to encode to an flv and have had very poor 
results (pixelation/noise) using flash 7 sorenson.  I found this site :

http://www.creativedigitalgroup.com

the quaility of video on there looks very good, is it my source material that 
is too hard to encode and produce a good quality flv ?  Or is that site really 
using the on2 Vp6 codec ?  Is there a way to tell in an flv is on2 or sorenson 
without some special tools ?

Grant.
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