Re: [Flashcoders] h264 video looks blurry/crappy in flash

2008-10-29 Thread Søren Christensen



the aspect is 1:1
If i playback a flv (on2 VP6) everything looks as it should.
I even tried some videos from apple.com/trailes - at first i thought  
they where played back perfectly. But after a few replays i could see  
some enhanced compression artifacts especiallly in the reds compared  
to when playing them back in the quicktime player. But they wasnt as  
blurry as my h264.
I tried using a .mov wrapper instead of mp4. Same result. Which make  
me start to think it could be my encodign software...
Anyway i will make some extra tests to try and find a bit more head  
and tails in the matters.



cheers,
B) Søren

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On Oct 28, 2008, at 2:25 PM, Latcho wrote:


Check:
Is your video pixel aspect ratio square pixels 1:1 ? or for ex.   
1:1.07 or 1:1.333.



Søren Christensen wrote:


The video i am using has the same size as the stage area so no  
scaling is taking place.
smoothing = true  normally activates antialiasing if the video is  
scaled up/down.


However weird things hapens with h264 -

with smoothing 'on' the image gets too soft and to some degree  
degrades the picture.
With smoothing 'off' it leaves the video very rough and aliased as  
if the video had been scaled up from 1/4th the resolution.


I have been testing on osx 10.4 safari/ff  and 9.0.115 fp

Cheers,
B) Søren

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On Oct 24, 2008, at 5:37 PM, Cedric Muller wrote:


do you, by any chance, use the video.smoothing = true ?
by looking at the video, it seems this option is set to true


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Re: [Flashcoders] h264 video looks blurry/crappy in flash

2008-10-29 Thread Cedric Muller

What if you encode your video directly with the Flash Video Encoder ?

cedric




the aspect is 1:1
If i playback a flv (on2 VP6) everything looks as it should.
I even tried some videos from apple.com/trailes - at first i  
thought they where played back perfectly. But after a few replays i  
could see some enhanced compression artifacts especiallly in the  
reds compared to when playing them back in the quicktime player.  
But they wasnt as blurry as my h264.
I tried using a .mov wrapper instead of mp4. Same result. Which  
make me start to think it could be my encodign software...
Anyway i will make some extra tests to try and find a bit more head  
and tails in the matters.



cheers,
B) Søren

  MOTION  INTERACTIVITY
  dslnc studio -  www.desilence.net
  +34 93 268 0953  /  +34 61 555 9963 (mobile)




On Oct 28, 2008, at 2:25 PM, Latcho wrote:


Check:
Is your video pixel aspect ratio square pixels 1:1 ? or for ex.   
1:1.07 or 1:1.333.



Søren Christensen wrote:


The video i am using has the same size as the stage area so no  
scaling is taking place.
smoothing = true  normally activates antialiasing if the video is  
scaled up/down.


However weird things hapens with h264 -

with smoothing 'on' the image gets too soft and to some degree  
degrades the picture.
With smoothing 'off' it leaves the video very rough and aliased  
as if the video had been scaled up from 1/4th the resolution.


I have been testing on osx 10.4 safari/ff  and 9.0.115 fp

Cheers,
B) Søren

  MOTION  INTERACTIVITY
  dslnc studio -  www.desilence.net
  +34 93 268 0953  /  +34 61 555 9963 (mobile)




On Oct 24, 2008, at 5:37 PM, Cedric Muller wrote:


do you, by any chance, use the video.smoothing = true ?
by looking at the video, it seems this option is set to true





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Re: [Flashcoders] h264 video looks blurry/crappy in flash

2008-10-29 Thread Søren Christensen

I will give it a try

But I find the flash video encoder very basic. Not the best place to  
finetune the bitrate/quality balance.



Cheers,
B) Søren

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On Oct 29, 2008, at 11:33 AM, Cedric Muller wrote:


What if you encode your video directly with the Flash Video Encoder ?

cedric




the aspect is 1:1
If i playback a flv (on2 VP6) everything looks as it should.
I even tried some videos from apple.com/trailes - at first i  
thought they where played back perfectly. But after a few replays  
i could see some enhanced compression artifacts especiallly in the  
reds compared to when playing them back in the quicktime player.  
But they wasnt as blurry as my h264.
I tried using a .mov wrapper instead of mp4. Same result. Which  
make me start to think it could be my encodign software...
Anyway i will make some extra tests to try and find a bit more  
head and tails in the matters.



cheers,
B) Søren

  MOTION  INTERACTIVITY
  dslnc studio -  www.desilence.net
  +34 93 268 0953  /  +34 61 555 9963 (mobile)




On Oct 28, 2008, at 2:25 PM, Latcho wrote:


Check:
Is your video pixel aspect ratio square pixels 1:1 ? or for ex.   
1:1.07 or 1:1.333.



Søren Christensen wrote:


The video i am using has the same size as the stage area so no  
scaling is taking place.
smoothing = true  normally activates antialiasing if the video  
is scaled up/down.


However weird things hapens with h264 -

with smoothing 'on' the image gets too soft and to some degree  
degrades the picture.
With smoothing 'off' it leaves the video very rough and aliased  
as if the video had been scaled up from 1/4th the resolution.


I have been testing on osx 10.4 safari/ff  and 9.0.115 fp

Cheers,
B) Søren

  MOTION  INTERACTIVITY
  dslnc studio -  www.desilence.net
  +34 93 268 0953  /  +34 61 555 9963 (mobile)




On Oct 24, 2008, at 5:37 PM, Cedric Muller wrote:


do you, by any chance, use the video.smoothing = true ?
by looking at the video, it seems this option is set to true





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Re: [Flashcoders] h264 video looks blurry/crappy in flash

2008-10-28 Thread Latcho

Check:
Is your video pixel aspect ratio square pixels 1:1 ? or for ex.  1:1.07 
or 1:1.333.



Søren Christensen wrote:


The video i am using has the same size as the stage area so no scaling 
is taking place.
smoothing = true  normally activates antialiasing if the video is 
scaled up/down.


However weird things hapens with h264 -

with smoothing 'on' the image gets too soft and to some degree 
degrades the picture.
With smoothing 'off' it leaves the video very rough and aliased as if 
the video had been scaled up from 1/4th the resolution.


I have been testing on osx 10.4 safari/ff  and 9.0.115 fp

Cheers,
B) Søren

  MOTION  INTERACTIVITY
  dslnc studio -  www.desilence.net
  +34 93 268 0953  /  +34 61 555 9963 (mobile)




On Oct 24, 2008, at 5:37 PM, Cedric Muller wrote:


do you, by any chance, use the video.smoothing = true ?
by looking at the video, it seems this option is set to true


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Re: [Flashcoders] h264 video looks blurry/crappy in flash

2008-10-27 Thread Søren Christensen


The video i am using has the same size as the stage area so no  
scaling is taking place.
smoothing = true  normally activates antialiasing if the video is  
scaled up/down.


However weird things hapens with h264 -

with smoothing 'on' the image gets too soft and to some degree  
degrades the picture.
With smoothing 'off' it leaves the video very rough and aliased as if  
the video had been scaled up from 1/4th the resolution.


I have been testing on osx 10.4 safari/ff  and 9.0.115 fp

Cheers,
B) Søren

  MOTION  INTERACTIVITY
  dslnc studio -  www.desilence.net
  +34 93 268 0953  /  +34 61 555 9963 (mobile)




On Oct 24, 2008, at 5:37 PM, Cedric Muller wrote:


do you, by any chance, use the video.smoothing = true ?
by looking at the video, it seems this option is set to true


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[Flashcoders] h264 video looks blurry/crappy in flash

2008-10-24 Thread Søren Christensen


Hey All

Has anybody experieced h264 video being more crappy when played  
through flash instead of i.e. the quicktime player


If you compare these two:

In flash
http://agentzoo.dk/temp/videotests/?file=mp4/ 
bancpost720_16-9.mp4w=702h=394


the file directly:
http://agentzoo.dk/temp/videotests/mp4/bancpost720_16-9.mp4

You will see a big quality differece -
Notice how blurry the video and subtitles looks and how compressed  
the text and logo looks in flash.



The video has carefully been compressed in episode with flash  
compatible settings...



Cheers,
B) Søren




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Re: [Flashcoders] h264 video looks blurry/crappy in flash

2008-10-24 Thread Cedric Muller

do you, by any chance, use the video.smoothing = true ?
by looking at the video, it seems this option is set to true

hth,
Cedric



Hey All

Has anybody experieced h264 video being more crappy when played  
through flash instead of i.e. the quicktime player


If you compare these two:

In flash
http://agentzoo.dk/temp/videotests/?file=mp4/ 
bancpost720_16-9.mp4w=702h=394


the file directly:
http://agentzoo.dk/temp/videotests/mp4/bancpost720_16-9.mp4

You will see a big quality differece -
Notice how blurry the video and subtitles looks and how compressed  
the text and logo looks in flash.



The video has carefully been compressed in episode with flash  
compatible settings...



Cheers,
B) Søren




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Re: [Flashcoders] h264 video looks blurry/crappy in flash

2008-10-24 Thread Muzak

Detection script has the wrong version format: 9,1,1,5
Should be: 9,0,115,0

As for the blurryness, like Cedric said, it's probably the video.smoothing 
property.
Without it though, the video (especially text at the end) looks very jagged.

regards,
Muzak

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Hey All

Has anybody experieced h264 video being more crappy when played
through flash instead of i.e. the quicktime player

If you compare these two:

In flash
http://agentzoo.dk/temp/videotests/?file=mp4/
bancpost720_16-9.mp4w=702h=394

the file directly:
http://agentzoo.dk/temp/videotests/mp4/bancpost720_16-9.mp4

You will see a big quality differece -
Notice how blurry the video and subtitles looks and how compressed
the text and logo looks in flash.


The video has carefully been compressed in episode with flash
compatible settings...


Cheers,
B) Søren

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