RE: [Flashcoders] is flash still alive?

2007-03-14 Thread Karina Steffens
And yet you manage to find time to perform more miracles - Papervision3D
looks amazing...! ;)



 -Original Message-
 From: John Grden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 13 March 2007 15:28
 To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
 Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] is flash still alive?
 
 LOL no doubt - I can barely keep up with the work I've taken 
 on and Flash Developers are very hard to find.  I must get 1 
 call a week at least from Recruiters looking for Flash Devs.
 
 Business is good.
 
 On 1/21/07, Patrick Lemiuex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  You're joking right?
 
 
  On Mar 12, 2007, at 3:51 PM, ottocid wrote:
 
   This may sound a stupid question.
  
   But I've been away from flash developing for one year. 
 And I need to 
   know if there is still the same request of flash actionscript 
   programmers of last year of flash is becoming obsolete, 
 in favour 
   of Flex or simply in favour of classical html/serverside 
   applications, that are google friendly / accessible etc...
  
   In next months I will leave italy to go in London searching for a 
   job, and I need to know if being a STRONG actionscript 
 developer is 
   still a good reference.
  
   Thanks in advance
  
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Re: [Flashcoders] is flash still alive?

2007-03-13 Thread sean
It's strange that they would think that Flash is for fast computers and
high bandwidth as the Flash player's ubiquety is due in no small way to
the fact that it is very well optimised for speed and size to allow it to
run on most machines. Of course I have no idea what you're running it on
in the Philippines so maybe that's a factor

w: www.flashcoder.net/blog

 It sucks though that in a place like the Philippines (where I am),
 people aren't into this technology so much yet.  They almost always
 think that Flash is for fast computers and high bandwidth.  Most
 likely, even if a team feels they are quite skilled, their skills are
 not tested or pushed to the limit.

 To answer your questions, yes it's quite active.  Even here, there is
 some advancement, however small, in embracing the technology, thanks
 to site like YouTube.

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RE: [Flashcoders] is flash still alive?

2007-03-13 Thread David Mendels
Hi,

Flash is booming.  Flash and Flex complement each other and have helped
expand the community to new folks, not Flex has not replaced Flash.

Rumor has it that a major new release of the Flash authoring tool is due
soon:
http://arstechnica.com/journals/apple.ars/2007/03/05/adobe-confirms-cs3-
launch-date

-David
Adobe 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ottocid
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 6:52 PM
To: Flashcoders mailing list
Subject: [Flashcoders] is flash still alive?

This may sound a stupid question.

But I've been away from flash developing for one year. And I need to
know if there is still the same request of flash actionscript
programmers of last year of flash is becoming obsolete, in favour of
Flex or simply in favour of classical html/serverside applications,
that are google friendly / accessible etc...

In next months I will leave italy to go in London searching for a job,
and I need to know if being a STRONG actionscript developer is still a
good reference.

Thanks in advance

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Re: [Flashcoders] is flash still alive?

2007-03-13 Thread Nick Gerig
Flash contracting in London is booming at the moment, has been for that 
last year and a bit. If you are good and know Flash insideout, code AS1 
and 2, then you'll have no problems.



Cheers


Nick

David Mendels wrote:

Hi,

Flash is booming.  Flash and Flex complement each other and have helped
expand the community to new folks, not Flex has not replaced Flash.

Rumor has it that a major new release of the Flash authoring tool is due
soon:
http://arstechnica.com/journals/apple.ars/2007/03/05/adobe-confirms-cs3-
launch-date

-David
Adobe 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ottocid
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 6:52 PM
To: Flashcoders mailing list
Subject: [Flashcoders] is flash still alive?

This may sound a stupid question.

But I've been away from flash developing for one year. And I need to
know if there is still the same request of flash actionscript
programmers of last year of flash is becoming obsolete, in favour of
Flex or simply in favour of classical html/serverside applications,
that are google friendly / accessible etc...

In next months I will leave italy to go in London searching for a job,
and I need to know if being a STRONG actionscript developer is still a
good reference.

Thanks in advance

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Re[2]: [Flashcoders] is flash still alive?

2007-03-13 Thread Ivan Dembicki
Hello Nick,

Could you please tell me...
I'm searching for a job in UK.
I have good experiance (from 2000), large portfolio and known
projects. But now I'm in Moscow and I have dirty English.
As a consequence my resume is not considered by job agencies.
Is there any way to find an employer directly skipping the agency
stage?


NG Flash contracting in London is booming at the moment, has been for that
NG last year and a bit. If you are good and know Flash insideout, code AS1
NG and 2, then you'll have no problems.


NG Cheers


NG Nick

NG David Mendels wrote:
 Hi,

 Flash is booming.  Flash and Flex complement each other and have helped
 expand the community to new folks, not Flex has not replaced Flash.

 Rumor has it that a major new release of the Flash authoring tool is due
 soon:
 http://arstechnica.com/journals/apple.ars/2007/03/05/adobe-confirms-cs3-
 launch-date

 -David
 Adobe 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ottocid
 Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 6:52 PM
 To: Flashcoders mailing list
 Subject: [Flashcoders] is flash still alive?

 This may sound a stupid question.

 But I've been away from flash developing for one year. And I need to
 know if there is still the same request of flash actionscript
 programmers of last year of flash is becoming obsolete, in favour of
 Flex or simply in favour of classical html/serverside applications,
 that are google friendly / accessible etc...

 In next months I will leave italy to go in London searching for a job,
 and I need to know if being a STRONG actionscript developer is still a
 good reference.

 Thanks in advance

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Re: [Flashcoders] is flash still alive?

2007-03-13 Thread Nick Gerig

Hi Ivan


this is going off topic really but I'd just email the london 
agencies directly. They may want to work with you but most stuff needs 
to be done onsite in their studio for various reasons.


Cheers


Nick

Ivan Dembicki wrote:

Hello Nick,

Could you please tell me...
I'm searching for a job in UK.
I have good experiance (from 2000), large portfolio and known
projects. But now I'm in Moscow and I have dirty English.
As a consequence my resume is not considered by job agencies.
Is there any way to find an employer directly skipping the agency
stage?


NG Flash contracting in London is booming at the moment, has been for that
NG last year and a bit. If you are good and know Flash insideout, code AS1
NG and 2, then you'll have no problems.


  





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Re: [Flashcoders] is flash still alive?

2007-03-13 Thread John Grden

LOL no doubt - I can barely keep up with the work I've taken on and Flash
Developers are very hard to find.  I must get 1 call a week at least from
Recruiters looking for Flash Devs.

Business is good.

On 1/21/07, Patrick Lemiuex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


You're joking right?


On Mar 12, 2007, at 3:51 PM, ottocid wrote:

 This may sound a stupid question.

 But I've been away from flash developing for one year. And I need
 to know if there is still the same request of flash actionscript
 programmers of last year of flash is becoming obsolete, in favour
 of Flex or simply in favour of classical html/serverside
 applications, that are google friendly / accessible etc...

 In next months I will leave italy to go in London searching for a
 job, and I need to know if being a STRONG actionscript developer is
 still a good reference.

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RE: [Flashcoders] is flash still alive?

2007-03-13 Thread Merrill, Jason
Agreed - Flash/Actionscript/Flex business is really good - I still get
contacted weekly about jobs even though I've been at my new job and very
happy since last May.

Jason Merrill
Bank of America  
Global Technology  Operations
Learning  Leadership Development 
eTools  Multimedia Team


 
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Re: [Flashcoders] is flash still alive?

2007-03-13 Thread Gustavo Duenas

hey, if you need designers call me...
I'm on the USA...jacksonville, fl  to be more precise.
904-2650330

Regards

P.s: I've done some actionscript, well nothing so edgy as these guys  
on the list did or are doingbut something nice, yeah.


On Mar 13, 2007, at 11:28 AM, John Grden wrote:

LOL no doubt - I can barely keep up with the work I've taken on and  
Flash
Developers are very hard to find.  I must get 1 call a week at  
least from

Recruiters looking for Flash Devs.

Business is good.

On 1/21/07, Patrick Lemiuex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


You're joking right?


On Mar 12, 2007, at 3:51 PM, ottocid wrote:

 This may sound a stupid question.

 But I've been away from flash developing for one year. And I need
 to know if there is still the same request of flash actionscript
 programmers of last year of flash is becoming obsolete, in favour
 of Flex or simply in favour of classical html/serverside
 applications, that are google friendly / accessible etc...

 In next months I will leave italy to go in London searching for a
 job, and I need to know if being a STRONG actionscript developer is
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Re[2]: [Flashcoders] is flash still alive?

2007-03-13 Thread Ivan Dembicki
Hello Nick,

- Thank you!

NG this is going off topic really but I'd just email the london 
NG agencies directly. They may want to work with you but most stuff needs
NG to be done onsite in their studio for various reasons.

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RE: [Flashcoders] is flash still alive?

2007-03-13 Thread Steven Sacks | BLITZ
Flash is dead.  Long live WPF/E!   ;)
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RE: [Flashcoders] is flash still alive?

2007-03-13 Thread Tom Gooding
Has anyone had much of a play with WPF? What's the word on the street?
Will it take over from Flash?

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Flash is dead.  Long live WPF/E!   ;)
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Re: [Flashcoders] is flash still alive?

2007-03-13 Thread Glen Pike

Keep it clean people this is a flash list :)

Should it be WTF?

Tom Gooding wrote:

Has anyone had much of a play with WPF? What's the word on the street?
Will it take over from Flash?

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RE: [Flashcoders] is flash still alive?

2007-03-13 Thread sean
Yeah, we're doing a couple of small proof of concept projects in house
using WPFe but it is very far from a Flash killer. It has a couple of nice
features like the graphical code behind but the implementation is very
much like their attempt at code behind HTML with Frontpage - full of
unwanted crap. The product will improve but Adobe have a fantastic product
(Flash), first-to-market advantage and a very large and loyal
developer/designer base. Flash is the future, get used to it ;)


 Has anyone had much of a play with WPF? What's the word on the street?
 Will it take over from Flash?

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Re: [Flashcoders] is flash still alive?

2007-03-13 Thread Matthew Ganz
by graphical code behind do you mean that it outputs SVG? that is a 
feature that i could certainly use. we create PDF files on the fly and have 
to describe our graphics via SVG so we can see them in a PDF.


sure, we could use FlashPaper but haven't gone that route yet.

matt
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Yeah, we're doing a couple of small proof of concept projects in house
using WPFe but it is very far from a Flash killer. It has a couple of nice
features like the graphical code behind but the implementation is very
much like their attempt at code behind HTML with Frontpage - full of
unwanted crap. The product will improve but Adobe have a fantastic product
(Flash), first-to-market advantage and a very large and loyal
developer/designer base. Flash is the future, get used to it ;)



Has anyone had much of a play with WPF? What's the word on the street?
Will it take over from Flash?

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Re: [Flashcoders] is flash still alive?

2007-03-13 Thread sean
Afraid not Matt. It allows you to design your stage assets using graphical
tools and it writes the code to create, and if necessary, animate them for
you just like Frontpage used to do, only worse ;)

 by graphical code behind do you mean that it outputs SVG? that is a
 feature that i could certainly use. we create PDF files on the fly and
 have
 to describe our graphics via SVG so we can see them in a PDF.

 sure, we could use FlashPaper but haven't gone that route yet.

 matt
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 nice
 features like the graphical code behind but the implementation is very
 much like their attempt at code behind HTML with Frontpage - full of
 unwanted crap. The product will improve but Adobe have a fantastic
 product
 (Flash), first-to-market advantage and a very large and loyal
 developer/designer base. Flash is the future, get used to it ;)


 Has anyone had much of a play with WPF? What's the word on the street?
 Will it take over from Flash?

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Re: [Flashcoders] is flash still alive?

2007-03-13 Thread Ramon Miguel M. Tayag

Yep, I always tell them otherwise, so at least I get to convert one
person at a time.  We use normal computers btw!  At least most of the
time, not systems built out of scrap from other countries! ;)

I've noticed this topic has gone quite off, but I'm sure ottocid has
gotten the message, even just by the sheer number of emails!  Flash is
very much alive!

On 3/13/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

It's strange that they would think that Flash is for fast computers and
high bandwidth as the Flash player's ubiquety is due in no small way to
the fact that it is very well optimised for speed and size to allow it to
run on most machines. Of course I have no idea what you're running it on
in the Philippines so maybe that's a factor

w: www.flashcoder.net/blog


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[Flashcoders] is flash still alive?

2007-03-12 Thread ottocid

This may sound a stupid question.

But I've been away from flash developing for one year. And I need to 
know if there is still the same request of flash actionscript 
programmers of last year of flash is becoming obsolete, in favour 
of Flex or simply in favour of classical html/serverside 
applications, that are google friendly / accessible etc...


In next months I will leave italy to go in London searching for a 
job, and I need to know if being a STRONG actionscript developer is 
still a good reference.


Thanks in advance

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Re: [Flashcoders] is flash still alive?

2007-03-12 Thread Patrick Lemiuex

You're joking right?


On Mar 12, 2007, at 3:51 PM, ottocid wrote:


This may sound a stupid question.

But I've been away from flash developing for one year. And I need  
to know if there is still the same request of flash actionscript  
programmers of last year of flash is becoming obsolete, in favour  
of Flex or simply in favour of classical html/serverside  
applications, that are google friendly / accessible etc...


In next months I will leave italy to go in London searching for a  
job, and I need to know if being a STRONG actionscript developer is  
still a good reference.


Thanks in advance

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Re: [Flashcoders] is flash still alive?

2007-03-12 Thread Snepo - Arse
Absolutely. I can't speak for other markets but I do know that there  
is a huge demand for ActionScript skills in Australia. I run a small  
Flash agency and we have plenty of work to keep us busy and struggle  
to find enough quality resources. It's even to the point where our  
developers are booked up for a couple of months in advanced. There  
seems to be a fair amount of novice developers claiming to be skilled  
which can cause problems... so anyone with STRONG AS skills is highly  
sought after.


Flex 2 and Flash Lite work is much less common though still required  
enough to warrant internal developer training and research.


Regards,

Arse
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On 13/03/2007, at 9:51 AM, ottocid wrote:


This may sound a stupid question.

But I've been away from flash developing for one year. And I need  
to know if there is still the same request of flash actionscript  
programmers of last year of flash is becoming obsolete, in favour  
of Flex or simply in favour of classical html/serverside  
applications, that are google friendly / accessible etc...


In next months I will leave italy to go in London searching for a  
job, and I need to know if being a STRONG actionscript developer is  
still a good reference.


Thanks in advance

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RE: [Flashcoders] is flash still alive?

2007-03-12 Thread Dave Watts
 But I've been away from flash developing for one year. And I 
 need to know if there is still the same request of flash 
 actionscript programmers of last year of flash is becoming 
 obsolete, in favour of Flex or simply in favour of 
 classical html/serverside applications, that are google 
 friendly / accessible etc...
 
 In next months I will leave italy to go in London searching 
 for a job, and I need to know if being a STRONG actionscript 
 developer is still a good reference.

Since Flex relies heavily on ActionScript, I would expect that knowing
ActionScript is more important than ever.

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Re: [Flashcoders] is flash still alive?

2007-03-12 Thread sean
I've just left contracting in London to take a senior role in New York and
I still get loads of calls from London based agencies looking for good AS
developers and I can't find enough good AS devs in New York for all the
work we have. You'll be in high demand mate. Actionscript is the future.
Get used to it.

 This may sound a stupid question.

 But I've been away from flash developing for one year. And I need to
 know if there is still the same request of flash actionscript
 programmers of last year of flash is becoming obsolete, in favour
 of Flex or simply in favour of classical html/serverside
 applications, that are google friendly / accessible etc...

 In next months I will leave italy to go in London searching for a
 job, and I need to know if being a STRONG actionscript developer is
 still a good reference.

 Thanks in advance

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Re: [Flashcoders] is flash still alive?

2007-03-12 Thread Jim Cheng

ottocid wrote:

But I've been away from flash developing for one year. And I need to 
know if there is still the same request of flash actionscript 
programmers of last year of flash is becoming obsolete, in favour of 
Flex or simply in favour of classical html/serverside applications, 
that are google friendly / accessible etc...


I can't speak for London, but at least locally here in Denver (Colorado, 
USAmerica), business is booming here--so much so that we have yet to 
stop interviewing and hiring strong ActionScript developers.  If the 
market there is similar and you have some mad skills, I don't think 
you'll be hurting for work.


Speaking to the type of candidate that my company looks for (as a shop 
specializing in bespoke software development of the RIA flavor), I would 
suggest learning ActionScript 3 and mastering the nuances of the new 
Flex Framework if you haven't already, especially if you are planning on 
getting in on RIA development work.


That being said though, there's no lack of work in the rich media end of 
the Flash spectrum either, there's quite a few openings at some of the 
local design agencies around town, and they're looking for competent 
ActionScript developers too--there's quite a bit of demand for top 
talent--these days, you can pretty much choose what kind of Flash 
platform work you want to do.  Taken in summary, I'd venture to say that 
the market for ActionScript is better now than it has ever been.


Jim Cheng
effectiveUI
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Re: [Flashcoders] is flash still alive?

2007-03-12 Thread Ramon Miguel M. Tayag

It sucks though that in a place like the Philippines (where I am),
people aren't into this technology so much yet.  They almost always
think that Flash is for fast computers and high bandwidth.  Most
likely, even if a team feels they are quite skilled, their skills are
not tested or pushed to the limit.

To answer your questions, yes it's quite active.  Even here, there is
some advancement, however small, in embracing the technology, thanks
to site like YouTube.

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