Re: [Flashcoders] @#$% New iPhone Developer Agreement Bans the Use of Adobe¹s Flash-to-iPhone Compiler
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Re: [Flashcoders] @#$% New iPhone Developer Agreement Bans the Use of Adobe¹s Flash-to-iPhone Compiler
Well if JavaScript is allowed that might muddy the waters a bit - JavaScript is a dialect, from the ECMAScript family, so are Apple allowing JavaScript or ECMAScript? On 15/04/2010 13:40, Karl DeSaulniers wrote: One of the allowed program languages is javascript in this new SDK. I remember reading somewhere that Flash had its own javascript. Could this be implemented as a viable language to design for iPhones with? Or is the flash version of javascript incapable of this and actually has a different purpose? Like I said, I heard of flash javascript, but I have a feeling I am unaware of its real purpose. Any insight would be great. Thanks, Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] @#$% New iPhone Developer Agreement Bans the Use of Adobe¹s Flash-to-iPhone Compiler
By Flash JavaScript - perhaps you mean JSFL - the scripting language for the IDE is done in JavaScript, it is purely used at design time to automate tasks. Glen On 15/04/2010 13:50, Karl DeSaulniers wrote: I thought I read that Javascript was allowed as a accepted language, not necessarily a compiler. Wasn't saying that. Just wondering if there would be any benefit to using flash javascript. I guess my question is more "What is flash javascript?" "What does it do?" and "What are its benefits?" Thanks, Karl On Apr 15, 2010, at 7:43 AM, Glen Pike wrote: Well if JavaScript is allowed that might muddy the waters a bit - JavaScript is a dialect, from the ECMAScript family, so are Apple allowing JavaScript or ECMAScript? On 15/04/2010 13:40, Karl DeSaulniers wrote: One of the allowed program languages is javascript in this new SDK. I remember reading somewhere that Flash had its own javascript. Could this be implemented as a viable language to design for iPhones with? Or is the flash version of javascript incapable of this and actually has a different purpose? Like I said, I heard of flash javascript, but I have a feeling I am unaware of its real purpose. Any insight would be great. Thanks, Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] @#$% New iPhone Developer Agreement Bans the Use of Adobe¹s Flash-to-iPhone Compiler
I think Apple may be doing this in an attempt to preserve the brand identity of their mobile devices. A flood of mobile devices with hardware and interfaces that are as powerful and intuitive, or more so, than the iPhone and iPad, has begun. By requiring developers to jump through hoops to create content for their devices, Apple makes it more likely that that content will only be available on their devices, making it exclusive. It seems to me that exclusivity is part of their brand identity; "Think different." -- Andrew Murphy Interactive Media Developer amur...@delvinia.com Delvinia 370 King Street West, 5th Floor, Box 4 Toronto Canada M5V 1J9 P (416) 364-1455 ext. 232 F (416) 364-9830 W www.delvinia.com -Original Message- From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Dave Watts Sent: April 15, 2010 22:32 pm To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] @#$% New iPhone Developer Agreement Bans the Use of Adobe¹s Flash-to-iPhone Compiler > Why is it that their phone can embrace flash but Apple cant? Purely because it's not in Apple's perceived business interest to do so. That's the only reason. There are various technical-sounding excuses given - poor performance, poor quality for cross-platform apps - but that's all BS. Apple makes money from the App Store. Allowing Flash detracts from the value of the App Store. Allowing developers to use cross-platform tools detracts from the value of the App Store; if I can build an app for Apple and Android simultaneously, the App Store has less of an advantage over the Android Market. > I think its time for Apple and Adobe to zip up the 'ol pants and get to > making things work for the people who one program for their devices and two > for the customers to enjoy that variety. > Just sayin.. Apple has no incentive to zip up their pants. This strategy makes it likely they'll get (and keep) a big pile of money. Adobe would like to pull their pants up, since Apple didn't even kiss them first, but there's really nothing they can do short of a lawsuit, and I doubt that'll be successful in any case. Apple can make up whatever ridiculous rules they want, as they only have a small slice of the mobile market. They're not a monopoly by a long shot. > Heh, then you can pitch a HTML 5 version to them and maybe have a script > that tells if its a iPhone and switches to the HTML5 preview. There's only one problem, really. HTML 5 kind of sucks. And it's certainly no replacement for native apps. Web apps don't have access to most of the good stuff in the phone - contacts, etc. > Anyone seen a market study on how many jailbroken iPhones there are? Be > interesting to see. No, but interestingly there is an "alternative" app store called Cydia for jailbroken phones. But jailbreaking is not an alternative if you really want to sell your apps. Hobbyists jailbreak their phones. Typical users don't, and never will. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
