RE: [Flashcoders] OT: Flash player keeps 'downgrading' itself

2005-10-26 Thread Julian Dolce
So I have been struggling with this as well and I think I have found a
work around/fix.

And it has to do with what John mentioned and uninstalling the
player sort of, because I can remember running the uninstaller and
it not fixing it. 

So here is what I did.

Go to this directory C:\WINDOWS\system32\Macromed\Flash
And find the Flash.OCX file. All I did was rename it to something
different so IE wouldn't be able to find FP7 and I would be able to
track down what site it was reverting on. But to my surprise it seems
like it's working now. 

It's been over 3 days without having to re-install the player.

So if you do uninstall the player go to that directory and make sure
that that file isn't there.

I hope that helps.

Julian Dolce
Senior Creative Technologist
Fuel Industries, INC
[ p ] 613-224-6738 x241
 
-Original Message-
From: Mike Mountain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 10:52 AM
To: Flashcoders mailing list
Subject: [Flashcoders] OT: Flash player keeps 'downgrading' itself

OK I know for sure I'm not the only one this is happening to, but I
wanted to get a consensus of how common this is.

My Flash player keeps silently reverting to version 7, I don't know if
it's a website I visit forcing a silent 'downgrade', or something to do
with my PC (win XP).

Anyone else experiencing this on the list? Solutions? Causes? Etc.

Cheers

Mike
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Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Flash player keeps 'downgrading' itself

2005-10-26 Thread spank man
I first installed flex builder +framework (default full install) with the
same problem, no FP8.5;
Then without unistalling i ran the installer again and chose the second
install option, "flex framework" only.
That made the FP8.5 install wright. The Fex builder was still there and
functioning great.

On 10/26/05, Mike Mountain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi John
>
> I'm sure I did, but will try again.
>
> M
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> > Of John Dowdell
> > Sent: 25 October 2005 20:48
> > To: Flashcoders mailing list
> > Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Flash player keeps 'downgrading' itself
> >
> > Mike Mountain wrote:
> > > It's ie 6.0.2800
> > > It happens with the full 8 player and the 8.5 alpha.
> >
> > I remember that the 8.0 beta players recommended a full
> > uninstallation at some point, although I didn't hear the
> > reason why this was recommended. Have you done the full
> > uninstall/reinstall cycle yet, to clear out any old beta bits...?
> > http://www.macromedia.com/go/14157
> >
> > jd
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RE: [Flashcoders] OT: Flash player keeps 'downgrading' itself

2005-10-26 Thread Mike Mountain
Hi John

I'm sure I did, but will try again. 

M

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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
> Of John Dowdell
> Sent: 25 October 2005 20:48
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> Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Flash player keeps 'downgrading' itself
> 
> Mike Mountain wrote:
> > It's ie 6.0.2800
> > It happens with the full 8 player and the 8.5 alpha.
> 
> I remember that the 8.0 beta players recommended a full 
> uninstallation at some point, although I didn't hear the 
> reason why this was recommended. Have you done the full 
> uninstall/reinstall cycle yet, to clear out any old beta bits...?
> http://www.macromedia.com/go/14157
> 
> jd
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Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Flash player keeps 'downgrading' itself

2005-10-25 Thread John Dowdell

Mike Mountain wrote:

It's ie 6.0.2800
It happens with the full 8 player and the 8.5 alpha.


I remember that the 8.0 beta players recommended a full uninstallation 
at some point, although I didn't hear the reason why this was 
recommended. Have you done the full uninstall/reinstall cycle yet, to 
clear out any old beta bits...?

http://www.macromedia.com/go/14157

jd



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RE: [Flashcoders] OT: Flash player keeps 'downgrading' itself

2005-10-25 Thread Mike Mountain
hmm, for some reason that link doesn't work directly, try this:

http://blog.fuelindustries.com/mt-search.cgi?IncludeBlogs=2&search=Flash
+Player+8+uninstalling

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> More info:
> http://blog.fuelindustries.com/archives/000108.htm
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RE: [Flashcoders] OT: Flash player keeps 'downgrading' itself

2005-10-25 Thread Mike Mountain
More info:
http://blog.fuelindustries.com/archives/000108.htm

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
> Of Mike Mountain
> Sent: 25 October 2005 09:46
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> Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] OT: Flash player keeps 'downgrading' itself
> 
>  
> It's ie 6.0.2800
> 
> It happens with the full 8 player and the 8.5 alpha.
> 
> I don't know which site is doing it (because it happens invisibly)
> 
> It happens a lot (at least twice a month)
> 
> Its been happening since the beta 8 player came out (I didn't 
> have flashpaper then)
> 
> It's most annoying.
> 
> M
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RE: [Flashcoders] OT: Flash player keeps 'downgrading' itself

2005-10-25 Thread Mike Mountain
 
It's ie 6.0.2800

It happens with the full 8 player and the 8.5 alpha.

I don't know which site is doing it (because it happens invisibly)

It happens a lot (at least twice a month)

Its been happening since the beta 8 player came out (I didn't have
flashpaper then)

It's most annoying.

M


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
> Of John Dowdell
> Sent: 24 October 2005 19:16
> To: Flashcoders mailing list
> Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Flash player keeps 'downgrading' itself
> 
> Mike Mountain wrote:
> > My Flash player keeps silently reverting to version 7, I 
> don't know if 
> > it's a website I visit forcing a silent 'downgrade', or 
> something to 
> > do with my PC (win XP).
> 
> I'm not familiar with this symptom. I know you're on a PC, 
> but am not sure of the browser (IE uses ActiveX Controls; 
> others use Netscape Plugins).
> 
> To repro it we'd likely have to know the procedure too (visit 
> the site & install, background ActiveX, auto-update etc), 
> whether there were things like a system restart after one of 
> the installs, whether it occurs on some pages or any page, 
> whether there have been any alpha or beta versions installed 
> into that browser, how you know which version is being used, etc.
> 
> I don't know of a way that a webpage can "force a silent 
> downgrade", if that's of help.
> 
> jd
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Flash player keeps 'downgrading' itself

2005-10-24 Thread Count Schemula
On 10/24/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> In the case of computers that are downgrading themselves, how many of
> you have FlashPaper installed.


I have flash paper installed, but have not used it in a while.

I also do not mess with the Flex Alpha or Ver 8.5 of the plug-in.
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Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Flash player keeps 'downgrading' itself

2005-10-24 Thread Spike
I do have flash paper and have not seen this happen.

Spike

On 10/24/05, Steve Mathews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I for one do not have FlashPaper.
>
> On 10/24/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > In the case of computers that are downgrading themselves, how many of
> > you have FlashPaper installed. I think Contribute also has a similar
> > issue. That is whenever you launch MS Office apps after upgrading to
> > Flash 8 it will downgrade you to Flash 7 player. But it is a noticeable
> > downgrade in that when you luanch the app, the installer for FlashPaper
> > or Contribute launches and tries to fix things up. At least that was
> > the case with the Flash 8 beta players. I think they fixed something at
> > the end so it shouldn't do that. However there could be a chance that
> > that particular fix isn't applied to the 8.5 alpha player. This is only
> > speculation of course.
> >
> > Sincerely
> > Mark R. Jonkman
> >
> > - Original Message -----
> > From: John Dowdell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: Monday, October 24, 2005 1:15 pm
> > Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Flash player keeps 'downgrading' itself
> >
> > > Mike Mountain wrote:
> > > > My Flash player keeps silently reverting to version 7, I don't
> > > know if
> > > > it's a website I visit forcing a silent 'downgrade', or
> > > something to do
> > > > with my PC (win XP).
> > >
> > > I'm not familiar with this symptom. I know you're on a PC, but am
> > > not
> > > sure of the browser (IE uses ActiveX Controls; others use Netscape
> > > Plugins).
> > >
> > > To repro it we'd likely have to know the procedure too (visit the
> > > site &
> > > install, background ActiveX, auto-update etc), whether there were
> > > things
> > > like a system restart after one of the installs, whether it occurs
> > > on
> > > some pages or any page, whether there have been any alpha or beta
> > > versions installed into that browser, how you know which version
> > > is
> > > being used, etc.
> > >
> > > I don't know of a way that a webpage can "force a silent
> > > downgrade", if
> > > that's of help.
> > >
> > > jd
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Flash player keeps 'downgrading' itself

2005-10-24 Thread Steve Mathews
I for one do not have FlashPaper.

On 10/24/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In the case of computers that are downgrading themselves, how many of
> you have FlashPaper installed. I think Contribute also has a similar
> issue. That is whenever you launch MS Office apps after upgrading to
> Flash 8 it will downgrade you to Flash 7 player. But it is a noticeable
> downgrade in that when you luanch the app, the installer for FlashPaper
> or Contribute launches and tries to fix things up. At least that was
> the case with the Flash 8 beta players. I think they fixed something at
> the end so it shouldn't do that. However there could be a chance that
> that particular fix isn't applied to the 8.5 alpha player. This is only
> speculation of course.
>
> Sincerely
> Mark R. Jonkman
>
> - Original Message -
> From: John Dowdell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Monday, October 24, 2005 1:15 pm
> Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Flash player keeps 'downgrading' itself
>
> > Mike Mountain wrote:
> > > My Flash player keeps silently reverting to version 7, I don't
> > know if
> > > it's a website I visit forcing a silent 'downgrade', or
> > something to do
> > > with my PC (win XP).
> >
> > I'm not familiar with this symptom. I know you're on a PC, but am
> > not
> > sure of the browser (IE uses ActiveX Controls; others use Netscape
> > Plugins).
> >
> > To repro it we'd likely have to know the procedure too (visit the
> > site &
> > install, background ActiveX, auto-update etc), whether there were
> > things
> > like a system restart after one of the installs, whether it occurs
> > on
> > some pages or any page, whether there have been any alpha or beta
> > versions installed into that browser, how you know which version
> > is
> > being used, etc.
> >
> > I don't know of a way that a webpage can "force a silent
> > downgrade", if
> > that's of help.
> >
> > jd
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Flash player keeps 'downgrading' itself

2005-10-24 Thread mjonkman
In the case of computers that are downgrading themselves, how many of 
you have FlashPaper installed. I think Contribute also has a similar 
issue. That is whenever you launch MS Office apps after upgrading to 
Flash 8 it will downgrade you to Flash 7 player. But it is a noticeable 
downgrade in that when you luanch the app, the installer for FlashPaper 
or Contribute launches and tries to fix things up. At least that was 
the case with the Flash 8 beta players. I think they fixed something at 
the end so it shouldn't do that. However there could be a chance that 
that particular fix isn't applied to the 8.5 alpha player. This is only 
speculation of course.

Sincerely
Mark R. Jonkman

- Original Message -
From: John Dowdell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Monday, October 24, 2005 1:15 pm
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Flash player keeps 'downgrading' itself

> Mike Mountain wrote:
> > My Flash player keeps silently reverting to version 7, I don't 
> know if
> > it's a website I visit forcing a silent 'downgrade', or 
> something to do
> > with my PC (win XP).
> 
> I'm not familiar with this symptom. I know you're on a PC, but am 
> not 
> sure of the browser (IE uses ActiveX Controls; others use Netscape 
> Plugins).
> 
> To repro it we'd likely have to know the procedure too (visit the 
> site & 
> install, background ActiveX, auto-update etc), whether there were 
> things 
> like a system restart after one of the installs, whether it occurs 
> on 
> some pages or any page, whether there have been any alpha or beta 
> versions installed into that browser, how you know which version 
> is 
> being used, etc.
> 
> I don't know of a way that a webpage can "force a silent 
> downgrade", if 
> that's of help.
> 
> jd
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Flash player keeps 'downgrading' itself

2005-10-24 Thread John Dowdell

Mike Mountain wrote:

My Flash player keeps silently reverting to version 7, I don't know if
it's a website I visit forcing a silent 'downgrade', or something to do
with my PC (win XP).


I'm not familiar with this symptom. I know you're on a PC, but am not 
sure of the browser (IE uses ActiveX Controls; others use Netscape 
Plugins).


To repro it we'd likely have to know the procedure too (visit the site & 
install, background ActiveX, auto-update etc), whether there were things 
like a system restart after one of the installs, whether it occurs on 
some pages or any page, whether there have been any alpha or beta 
versions installed into that browser, how you know which version is 
being used, etc.


I don't know of a way that a webpage can "force a silent downgrade", if 
that's of help.


jd




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Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Flash player keeps 'downgrading' itself

2005-10-24 Thread Steve Mathews
This happens to me also. On at least two different computers (both Win
XP, IE6). In every instance of  8 beta, released 8 and 8.5 alpha.
Would love to know the fix.

On 24 Oct 2005 17:40:05 -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I haven't noticed that in firefox, I have the 8.5 plugin installed in firefox 
> and left 7 in windows exploder.  I've been to quite a few sites that use 7 
> and I watched the osflash conference using 8.5 fine...  Maybe its just some 
> rogue site ?  :)
>
> Grant
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Hindman, Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Sent: 10/24/05 1:31 PM
> Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] OT: Flash player keeps 'downgrading' itself
>
> > Same think was happening to me ... but not until I installed the Flex 2.0 
> > Alpha.
> >
> > --Jeff Hindman
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mike Mountain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 7:52 AM
> > To: Flashcoders mailing list
> > Subject: [Flashcoders] OT: Flash player keeps 'downgrading' itself
> >
> >
> > OK I know for sure I'm not the only one this is happening to, but I
> > wanted to get a consensus of how common this is.
> >
> > My Flash player keeps silently reverting to version 7, I don't know if
> > it's a website I visit forcing a silent 'downgrade', or something to do
> > with my PC (win XP).
> >
> > Anyone else experiencing this on the list? Solutions? Causes? Etc.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
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Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Flash player keeps 'downgrading' itself

2005-10-24 Thread Count Schemula
I think it happened to me on a site where I'm using the "express install" to
check for Player 8.

Only the one time though I am keeping a lookout for it again.

WinXP Pro, Firefox 1.0.7
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RE: [Flashcoders] OT: Flash player keeps 'downgrading' itself

2005-10-24 Thread Hindman, Jeff
IE 6.0 ... I "fixed" the problem by re-installing the Alpha and only checking 
Firefox as a browser to load the Flash 8.5 plug-in into.

  -- Jeff

-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 10:42 AM
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I am using the Flex 2.0 Alpha as well, but I haven't seen this happen,
at least with Firefox. What browser is this happening with?

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>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders-
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hindman, Jeff
>>Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 1:34 PM
>>To: Flashcoders mailing list
>>Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] OT: Flash player keeps 'downgrading' itself
>>
>>Same think was happening to me ... but not until I installed the Flex
2.0 Alpha.
>>
>>--Jeff Hindman
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Mike Mountain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 7:52 AM
>>To: Flashcoders mailing list
>>Subject: [Flashcoders] OT: Flash player keeps 'downgrading' itself
>>
>>
>>OK I know for sure I'm not the only one this is happening to, but I
>>wanted to get a consensus of how common this is.
>>
>>My Flash player keeps silently reverting to version 7, I don't know if
>>it's a website I visit forcing a silent 'downgrade', or something to
do
>>with my PC (win XP).
>>
>>Anyone else experiencing this on the list? Solutions? Causes? Etc.
>>
>>Cheers
>>
>>Mike
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Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Flash player keeps 'downgrading' itself

2005-10-24 Thread grant
I haven't noticed that in firefox, I have the 8.5 plugin installed in firefox 
and left 7 in windows exploder.  I've been to quite a few sites that use 7 and 
I watched the osflash conference using 8.5 fine...  Maybe its just some rogue 
site ?  :)

Grant

- Original Message -
From: Hindman, Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: 10/24/05 1:31 PM
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> Same think was happening to me ... but not until I installed the Flex 2.0 
> Alpha.
> 
> --Jeff Hindman 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mike Mountain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 7:52 AM
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> Subject: [Flashcoders] OT: Flash player keeps 'downgrading' itself
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> OK I know for sure I'm not the only one this is happening to, but I
> wanted to get a consensus of how common this is.
> 
> My Flash player keeps silently reverting to version 7, I don't know if
> it's a website I visit forcing a silent 'downgrade', or something to do
> with my PC (win XP).
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> Anyone else experiencing this on the list? Solutions? Causes? Etc.
> 
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RE: [Flashcoders] OT: Flash player keeps 'downgrading' itself

2005-10-24 Thread Merrill, Jason
I am using the Flex 2.0 Alpha as well, but I haven't seen this happen,
at least with Firefox. What browser is this happening with?

Jason Merrill   |   E-Learning Solutions   |  icfconsulting.com










>>-Original Message-
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>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hindman, Jeff
>>Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 1:34 PM
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>>Same think was happening to me ... but not until I installed the Flex
2.0 Alpha.
>>
>>--Jeff Hindman
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Mike Mountain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 7:52 AM
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>>OK I know for sure I'm not the only one this is happening to, but I
>>wanted to get a consensus of how common this is.
>>
>>My Flash player keeps silently reverting to version 7, I don't know if
>>it's a website I visit forcing a silent 'downgrade', or something to
do
>>with my PC (win XP).
>>
>>Anyone else experiencing this on the list? Solutions? Causes? Etc.
>>
>>Cheers
>>
>>Mike
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RE: [Flashcoders] OT: Flash player keeps 'downgrading' itself

2005-10-24 Thread Hindman, Jeff
Same think was happening to me ... but not until I installed the Flex 2.0 Alpha.

--Jeff Hindman 

-Original Message-
From: Mike Mountain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 7:52 AM
To: Flashcoders mailing list
Subject: [Flashcoders] OT: Flash player keeps 'downgrading' itself


OK I know for sure I'm not the only one this is happening to, but I
wanted to get a consensus of how common this is.

My Flash player keeps silently reverting to version 7, I don't know if
it's a website I visit forcing a silent 'downgrade', or something to do
with my PC (win XP).

Anyone else experiencing this on the list? Solutions? Causes? Etc.

Cheers

Mike
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