Re: [Flashcoders] XML-PHP-FLASH
I have to completly disagree with you. Use XML in Flash, I really can't think of a better method. I don't know what version of Flash you're using, but you can use XPathAPI or xfactor studio XPath to make you life easier. I will hurt at first, no doubt, but it's the best way. Good luck. Yotam. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] XML-PHP-FLASH
FLASH 8 I have xFactor studio XPath. No harm did, my question meagerly served as hypothesis Respectfully, CK On Apr 20, 2006, at 9:09 AM, Yotam Laufer wrote: I have to completly disagree with you. Use XML in Flash, I really can't think of a better method. I don't know what version of Flash you're using, but you can use XPathAPI or xfactor studio XPath to make you life easier. I will hurt at first, no doubt, but it's the best way. Good luck. Yotam. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] XML-PHP-FLASH
After browsing the Kirupa.com XML tutorial written by Senoculor, it appears that given the awkward way the AS XML Object works that using PHP to parse XML then pass the PHP variables to flash may be less intense. Could someone enlighten? I'd disagree with this, unless you're using something like AMFPHP to pass a native PHP object structure back to Flash. Otherwise, you're loosing all the meaning inherent in the XML hierarchy. Cheers, Steve -- Steve Webster Head of Development Featurecreep Ltd. http://www.featurecreep.com 14 Orchard Street, Bristol, BS1 5EH 0117 905 5047 ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] XML-PHP-FLASH
Or don't write any XML at all. All the kids are using XML-RPC with Flash - it's the neatest! http://xmlrpcflash.sf.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of CK Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 12:05 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: [Flashcoders] XML-PHP-FLASH Hi, After browsing the Kirupa.com XML tutorial written by Senoculor, it appears that given the awkward way the AS XML Object works that using PHP to parse XML then pass the PHP variables to flash may be less intense. Could someone enlighten? Respectfully, CK ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] XML-PHP-FLASH
On 20-apr-2006, at 18:43, Shaw, Matt (MTVN) wrote: Or don't write any XML at all. All the kids are using XML-RPC with Flash - it's the neatest! http://xmlrpcflash.sf.net And what about JSON? Did it make any inroads into Flash yet? Seems much more terse and useful for bare-struct juggling than XML. -- Julian 'Julik' Tarkhanov please send all personal mail to me at julik.nl ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] XML-PHP-FLASH
Hi, I got the idea from Foundation Flash MX Applications, is my understanding of the text in err? CK On Apr 20, 2006, at 9:38 AM, Steve Webster wrote: After browsing the Kirupa.com XML tutorial written by Senoculor, it appears that given the awkward way the AS XML Object works that using PHP to parse XML then pass the PHP variables to flash may be less intense. Could someone enlighten? I'd disagree with this, unless you're using something like AMFPHP to pass a native PHP object structure back to Flash. Otherwise, you're loosing all the meaning inherent in the XML hierarchy. Cheers, Steve -- Steve Webster Head of Development Featurecreep Ltd. http://www.featurecreep.com 14 Orchard Street, Bristol, BS1 5EH 0117 905 5047 ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] XML-PHP-FLASH
If you're already using PHP on the server side, I can't see why you wouldn't use AMF - it's binary, where xml is not, and is far more verbose to send across the pipe. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shaw, Matt (MTVN) Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 9:43 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] XML-PHP-FLASH Or don't write any XML at all. All the kids are using XML-RPC with Flash - it's the neatest! http://xmlrpcflash.sf.net ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] XML-PHP-FLASH
well, yes i would recommend you look at amfphp, but while it's great and I use it often, sometimes that could be overkill depending on your needs. the thing with sending xml to flash is that you have a nicely structured object to deal with (as opposed to sending flash a url-encoded string and parsing that). The downside is, if you are going to use the flash's native xml-handling methods(firstChild, childNodes[]), it maybe become cumbersome if you are dealing with some complex xml. As mentioned previously, sending xml will pretty much always require sending more data, since you have to send all the extra xml info with the response. If you're xml is fairly light however, it may be worth your time to to just send back the xml, and use flash's native xml object methods. Also mentioned is XPath, which really rocks, and the combination of sending back xml to flash and using XPath syntax to query the xml object is pretty powerful. On 4/20/06, Ettwein, Josh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you're already using PHP on the server side, I can't see why you wouldn't use AMF - it's binary, where xml is not, and is far more verbose to send across the pipe. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shaw, Matt (MTVN) Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 9:43 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] XML-PHP-FLASH Or don't write any XML at all. All the kids are using XML-RPC with Flash - it's the neatest! http://xmlrpcflash.sf.net ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] XML-PHP-FLASH
Oh yeah, I totally agree with you. If the packets of data are small, no reason against just using XML/Xpath. I meant use AMFPHP for larger datasets, where XML's verbosity becomes an issue. Personally, I use AMFPHP for everything, but that's only because I've been using it for several years, and I've got a really good system set up with base classes for a simple AS2 MVC/P system using AMFPHP. I can get a framework up and running in like 5 minutes or so with data going back and forth. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Rodecker Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 10:55 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] XML-PHP-FLASH well, yes i would recommend you look at amfphp, but while it's great and I use it often, sometimes that could be overkill depending on your needs. the thing with sending xml to flash is that you have a nicely structured object to deal with (as opposed to sending flash a url-encoded string and parsing that). The downside is, if you are going to use the flash's native xml-handling methods(firstChild, childNodes[]), it maybe become cumbersome if you are dealing with some complex xml. As mentioned previously, sending xml will pretty much always require sending more data, since you have to send all the extra xml info with the response. If you're xml is fairly light however, it may be worth your time to to just send back the xml, and use flash's native xml object methods. Also mentioned is XPath, which really rocks, and the combination of sending back xml to flash and using XPath syntax to query the xml object is pretty powerful. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] XML-PHP-FLASH
I believe JSON relies on the ability to eval a string into an object,
which flash can't do without some help.
Eg: eval('{ key: value }');
Won't work in Flash, you'd have to parse the string - then why not parse
XML
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On 20-apr-2006, at 18:43, Shaw, Matt (MTVN) wrote:
Or don't write any XML at all.
All the kids are using XML-RPC with Flash - it's the neatest!
http://xmlrpcflash.sf.net
And what about JSON? Did it make any inroads into Flash yet? Seems much
more terse and useful for bare-struct juggling than XML.
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RE: [Flashcoders] XML-PHP-FLASH
That is true. There's mucho overhead with serializing things to XML. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ettwein, Josh Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 1:25 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] XML-PHP-FLASH If you're already using PHP on the server side, I can't see why you wouldn't use AMF - it's binary, where xml is not, and is far more verbose to send across the pipe. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shaw, Matt (MTVN) Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 9:43 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] XML-PHP-FLASH Or don't write any XML at all. All the kids are using XML-RPC with Flash - it's the neatest! http://xmlrpcflash.sf.net ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] XML-PHP-FLASH
Hi, The How-To page spits 404, any other sources on using XML-RPC? CK On Apr 20, 2006, at 9:43 AM, Shaw, Matt (MTVN) wrote: Or don't write any XML at all. All the kids are using XML-RPC with Flash - it's the neatest! http://xmlrpcflash.sf.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of CK Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 12:05 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: [Flashcoders] XML-PHP-FLASH Hi, After browsing the Kirupa.com XML tutorial written by Senoculor, it appears that given the awkward way the AS XML Object works that using PHP to parse XML then pass the PHP variables to flash may be less intense. Could someone enlighten? Respectfully, CK ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http:// www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
