Re: OT: RE: [Flashcoders] RIA patent granted
Sorry I missed the conversation I guess. My apologies for re-posting. -Chad On Mar 1, 2006, at 5:09 PM, Merrill, Jason wrote: We already discussed this topic here - just last Friday. My reply to it was: "This is another silly attempt at making money - filing a patent after the technology existed and was in wide use - Adobe and Sun and others will respond. "The patent covers all rich media technology implementations including Flash, Flex, Java, AJAX and XAML and all device footprints which access rich-media Internet applications including desktops, mobile devices, set-top boxes and video game consolesIt's possible that Balthaser may struggle to enforce its patent, because of prior art - the process where a patent is invalid if it can be proven that the innovation in question already existed before the patent was filed." http://news.zdnet.co.uk/business/0,39020645,39253949,00.htm Also, see: http://www.ip-wars.net/ " Jason Merrill | E-Learning Solutions | icfconsulting.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chad Mefferd Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 5:58 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: OT: RE: [Flashcoders] RIA patent granted Thanks Kevin :) On Mar 1, 2006, at 3:54 PM, Kevin Mulvihill wrote: :-) No Chad, I'm quite sure few, if any, are aware of this: "The patent--issued on Valentine's Day--covers all rich-media technology implementations, including Flash, Flex, Java, Ajax, and XAML, when the rich-media application is accessed on any device over the Internet, according to the patent holders... A patent has been granted to a relatively unknown California Web-design firm for an invention its creator says covers the design and creation of most rich-media applications used over the Internet. The patent holder, Balthaser Online Inc., says it could license nearly any rich-media Internet application across a broad range of devices and networks. Potentially tens of thousands of businesses--not only software makers employing its business processes but companies offering rich-media on their Websites--could be subject to licensing fees when they use rich-media technology over the Internet." Guess Adobe AND Microsoft got caught with their pants down. But all is not lost. Neil Balthaser, a former VP of strategy for Macromedia, plans to sell the patent to someone... See more on http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml? articleID=180206472&c id=RSSfeed_IWK_News Kevin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chad Mefferd Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 9:03 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: [Flashcoders] RIA patent granted H, http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml? articleID=180206472&cid=RSSfeed_IWK_News Is everyone aware of this? Chad ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com NOTICE: This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of this e-mail by you is prohibited. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: OT: RE: [Flashcoders] RIA patent granted
Perhaps im being ignorant, but has anyone actually investigated this patent? Ive had a look, and Its very specific, and doesn't deal with RIA's, but rich media hosting web sites. A load of fuss about not much at all, imho. Ps kudos to aral for pointing out how weak this patent is (and its also the only patent filed by this Balthaser dude, so make of that what you will). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cedric Muller Sent: 02 March 2006 09:14 To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: OT: RE: [Flashcoders] RIA patent granted for all of you interested, Aral of OSFlash has set up a page where we can put priort art to the patent: http://www.osflash.org/balthaser_patent_prior_art_discovery > We already discussed this topic here - just last Friday. > > My reply to it was: > > "This is another silly attempt at making money - filing a patent after > the technology existed and was in wide use - Adobe and Sun and others > will respond. > > "The patent covers all rich media technology implementations including > Flash, Flex, Java, AJAX and XAML and all device footprints which > access rich-media Internet applications including desktops, mobile > devices, set-top boxes and video game consolesIt's possible that > Balthaser may struggle to enforce its patent, because of prior art - > the process where a patent is invalid if it can be proven that the > innovation in question already existed before the patent was filed." > > http://news.zdnet.co.uk/business/0,39020645,39253949,00.htm > > Also, see: http://www.ip-wars.net/ > " > > Jason Merrill | E-Learning Solutions | icfconsulting.com > > > > > > > > > > >>> -Original Message- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chad Mefferd >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 5:58 PM >>> To: Flashcoders mailing list >>> Subject: Re: OT: RE: [Flashcoders] RIA patent granted >>> >>> Thanks Kevin :) >>> >>> On Mar 1, 2006, at 3:54 PM, Kevin Mulvihill wrote: >>> >>>> :-) No Chad, I'm quite sure few, if any, are aware of this: >>>> >>>> "The patent--issued on Valentine's Day--covers all rich-media >>>> technology implementations, including Flash, Flex, Java, Ajax, and >>>> XAML, when > the >>>> rich-media application is accessed on any device over the Internet, >>>> according to the patent holders... >>>> >>>> A patent has been granted to a relatively unknown California >>>> Web-design firm for an invention its creator says covers the design >>>> and creation of most rich-media applications used over the >>>> Internet. The patent holder, Balthaser Online Inc., says it could >>>> license nearly any rich-media Internet application across a broad >>>> range of devices and networks. >>>> >>>> Potentially tens of thousands of businesses--not only software > makers >>>> employing its business processes but companies offering rich-media > on >>>> their >>>> Websites--could be subject to licensing fees when they use > rich-media >>>> technology over the Internet." >>>> >>>> Guess Adobe AND Microsoft got caught with their pants down. But all > is >>>> not >>>> lost. Neil Balthaser, a former VP of strategy for Macromedia, plans > to >>>> sell >>>> the patent to someone... >>>> >>>> See more on >>>> http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml? >>>> articleID=180206472&c >>>> id=RSSfeed_IWK_News >>>> >>>> Kevin >>>> >>>> >>>>> -Original Message- >>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >>>>> Chad Mefferd >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 9:03 AM >>>>> To: Flashcoders mailing list >>>>> Subject: [Flashcoders] RIA patent granted >>>>> >>>>> H, >>>>> >>>>> http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml? >>>>> articleID=180206472&cid=RSSfeed_IWK_News >>>>> >>>>> Is everyone aware of this? >>>>> >>>>> Chad >>>>> >>>>> ___ >>>>> Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com >>>>> To
Re: OT: RE: [Flashcoders] RIA patent granted
for all of you interested, Aral of OSFlash has set up a page where we can put priort art to the patent: http://www.osflash.org/balthaser_patent_prior_art_discovery We already discussed this topic here - just last Friday. My reply to it was: "This is another silly attempt at making money - filing a patent after the technology existed and was in wide use - Adobe and Sun and others will respond. "The patent covers all rich media technology implementations including Flash, Flex, Java, AJAX and XAML and all device footprints which access rich-media Internet applications including desktops, mobile devices, set-top boxes and video game consolesIt's possible that Balthaser may struggle to enforce its patent, because of prior art - the process where a patent is invalid if it can be proven that the innovation in question already existed before the patent was filed." http://news.zdnet.co.uk/business/0,39020645,39253949,00.htm Also, see: http://www.ip-wars.net/ " Jason Merrill | E-Learning Solutions | icfconsulting.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chad Mefferd Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 5:58 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: OT: RE: [Flashcoders] RIA patent granted Thanks Kevin :) On Mar 1, 2006, at 3:54 PM, Kevin Mulvihill wrote: :-) No Chad, I'm quite sure few, if any, are aware of this: "The patent--issued on Valentine's Day--covers all rich-media technology implementations, including Flash, Flex, Java, Ajax, and XAML, when the rich-media application is accessed on any device over the Internet, according to the patent holders... A patent has been granted to a relatively unknown California Web-design firm for an invention its creator says covers the design and creation of most rich-media applications used over the Internet. The patent holder, Balthaser Online Inc., says it could license nearly any rich-media Internet application across a broad range of devices and networks. Potentially tens of thousands of businesses--not only software makers employing its business processes but companies offering rich-media on their Websites--could be subject to licensing fees when they use rich-media technology over the Internet." Guess Adobe AND Microsoft got caught with their pants down. But all is not lost. Neil Balthaser, a former VP of strategy for Macromedia, plans to sell the patent to someone... See more on http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml? articleID=180206472&c id=RSSfeed_IWK_News Kevin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chad Mefferd Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 9:03 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: [Flashcoders] RIA patent granted H, http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml? articleID=180206472&cid=RSSfeed_IWK_News Is everyone aware of this? Chad ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com NOTICE: This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of this e-mail by you is prohibited. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: OT: RE: [Flashcoders] RIA patent granted
We already discussed this topic here - just last Friday. My reply to it was: "This is another silly attempt at making money - filing a patent after the technology existed and was in wide use - Adobe and Sun and others will respond. "The patent covers all rich media technology implementations including Flash, Flex, Java, AJAX and XAML and all device footprints which access rich-media Internet applications including desktops, mobile devices, set-top boxes and video game consolesIt's possible that Balthaser may struggle to enforce its patent, because of prior art - the process where a patent is invalid if it can be proven that the innovation in question already existed before the patent was filed." http://news.zdnet.co.uk/business/0,39020645,39253949,00.htm Also, see: http://www.ip-wars.net/ " Jason Merrill | E-Learning Solutions | icfconsulting.com >>-Original Message- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chad Mefferd >>Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 5:58 PM >>To: Flashcoders mailing list >>Subject: Re: OT: RE: [Flashcoders] RIA patent granted >> >>Thanks Kevin :) >> >>On Mar 1, 2006, at 3:54 PM, Kevin Mulvihill wrote: >> >>> :-) No Chad, I'm quite sure few, if any, are aware of this: >>> >>> "The patent--issued on Valentine's Day--covers all rich-media >>> technology >>> implementations, including Flash, Flex, Java, Ajax, and XAML, when the >>> rich-media application is accessed on any device over the Internet, >>> according to the patent holders... >>> >>> A patent has been granted to a relatively unknown California >>> Web-design firm >>> for an invention its creator says covers the design and creation of >>> most >>> rich-media applications used over the Internet. The patent holder, >>> Balthaser >>> Online Inc., says it could license nearly any rich-media Internet >>> application across a broad range of devices and networks. >>> >>> Potentially tens of thousands of businesses--not only software makers >>> employing its business processes but companies offering rich-media on >>> their >>> Websites--could be subject to licensing fees when they use rich-media >>> technology over the Internet." >>> >>> Guess Adobe AND Microsoft got caught with their pants down. But all is >>> not >>> lost. Neil Balthaser, a former VP of strategy for Macromedia, plans to >>> sell >>> the patent to someone... >>> >>> See more on >>> http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml? >>> articleID=180206472&c >>> id=RSSfeed_IWK_News >>> >>> Kevin >>> >>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf >>>> Of Chad Mefferd >>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 9:03 AM >>>> To: Flashcoders mailing list >>>> Subject: [Flashcoders] RIA patent granted >>>> >>>> H, >>>> >>>> http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml? >>>> articleID=180206472&cid=RSSfeed_IWK_News >>>> >>>> Is everyone aware of this? >>>> >>>> Chad >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com >>>> To change your subscription options or search the archive: >>>> http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders >>>> >>>> Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software >>>> Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training >>>> http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com >>>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com >>> To change your subscription options or search the archive: >>> http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders >>> >>> Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software >>> Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training >>> http://www.figleaf.com >>> http://training.figleaf.com >>> >> >>___ >>Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com >>To change your subscription options or search the archive: >>http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders >> >>Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software >>Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training >>http://www.figleaf.com >>http://training.figleaf.com NOTICE: This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of this e-mail by you is prohibited. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: OT: RE: [Flashcoders] RIA patent granted
Thanks Kevin :) On Mar 1, 2006, at 3:54 PM, Kevin Mulvihill wrote: :-) No Chad, I'm quite sure few, if any, are aware of this: "The patent--issued on Valentine's Day--covers all rich-media technology implementations, including Flash, Flex, Java, Ajax, and XAML, when the rich-media application is accessed on any device over the Internet, according to the patent holders... A patent has been granted to a relatively unknown California Web-design firm for an invention its creator says covers the design and creation of most rich-media applications used over the Internet. The patent holder, Balthaser Online Inc., says it could license nearly any rich-media Internet application across a broad range of devices and networks. Potentially tens of thousands of businesses--not only software makers employing its business processes but companies offering rich-media on their Websites--could be subject to licensing fees when they use rich-media technology over the Internet." Guess Adobe AND Microsoft got caught with their pants down. But all is not lost. Neil Balthaser, a former VP of strategy for Macromedia, plans to sell the patent to someone... See more on http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml? articleID=180206472&c id=RSSfeed_IWK_News Kevin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chad Mefferd Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 9:03 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: [Flashcoders] RIA patent granted H, http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml? articleID=180206472&cid=RSSfeed_IWK_News Is everyone aware of this? Chad ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
