RE: [OBORONA-SPAM] RE: [Flashcoders] Are you a help vampire?

2006-04-28 Thread jim
What 

If you have a problem come out and say something, don't start a new account
simply to be annoying anonymously. 

I replied to the original email that seemed to be talking about scoping
issues among other things and asked for more knowledge / assistance so I
pointed them at an article on scoping issues. I think that makes sense,
don't you?

Jim

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ?
???
Sent: 27 April 2006 12:04
To: Flashcoders mailing list
Subject: Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] RE: [Flashcoders] Are you a help vampire?

Jim Tann ?:
> http://www.osflash.org/flashcoders/as2#handling_scope_in_event_handlers
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan
> Berry
> Sent: 26 April 2006 23:53
> To: Flashcoders mailing list
> Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Are you a help vampire?
>
> I want to offer a basic counterpoint to this: what if the question is
> just
> from a beginner, who has in fact researched a problem found the
> documentation/resources incomplete in some way? Is it just because a
> person
> is a beginner that you will not offer help?
>
> Case in point, and be patient with me. I am not by any means venting
> here,
> but I offered a question some time ago about the basic placement of
> anonymous functions like btn1.onRelease =
> function(){getURL(_root.variable_name,"_blank");} and also asked about
> whether or not such a function required the _root if it was in fact on
> the
> _root timeline. I actually received some very nice assistance on this
> and I
> appreciate the poster, since though I did discover that this was true
> through experimentation myself, he did give me a short lesson on scope.
> I
> had already learned about the Delegate class, but this basic issue was
> not
> clear in my reading, so I would not know I had to use _root or Delegate
> or
> what have you. I do know some Javascript and PHP and so programming is
> not
> beyond me, but learning a new technology from the ground up is the way I
> learn generally. I like to know *all* the aspects. So please permit
> those
> who are learning and obviously trying the benefit of the doubt.
>
> Another thing is further questions on the same subject. In this same
> issue,
> I had the question "are such function assignments applicable to a button
> if
> the code is placed before the button on the timeline?" I got a no, of
> course, which was a basic thing I had sketchy knowledge on. What I had
> was
> an ad sent to us by a client wherein the previous coder had used on()
> handlers on the clips and I was trying to rewrite it to include the
> anonymous functions and our variables, as stated before. When I wrote in
> the
> code in a keyframe in the actions layer above where the button was
> instantiated, it worked, but when a new keyframe in the button layer
> came
> up, I had to re-enter the code there as well. This seemed like
> repetitive
> work and my further question about this was not answered.
>
> My point is, does this make me dumb? No. It would make me lazy however
> if I
> did not research this. But this basic practice of where code should be
> written and how often was not clear to me since the project was not
> working
> in subsequent frames and the documentation I had read seemed to say
> write
> and be done with it.
>
> I suppose I am both asking this general question again, to help solidify
> my
> knowledge, and also pointing out that this does not make those who try
> but
> fail stupid. All I am saying is that I appreciate all your knowledge on
> this
> subject, but please have patience with those who are trying to learn and
> distinguish them from the vampires who ask questions that are so general
> that they lack any knowledge of Flash.
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> I suppose I am both asking this general question again, to help 
> solidify my knowledge, and also pointing out that this does not make 

Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] RE: [Flashcoders] Are you a help vampire?

2006-04-27 Thread elibol
Shh back off man he's got it under control.

On 4/27/06, ? ??? <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Jim Tann ?:
> > http://www.osflash.org/flashcoders/as2#handling_scope_in_event_handlers
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan
> > Berry
> > Sent: 26 April 2006 23:53
> > To: Flashcoders mailing list
> > Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Are you a help vampire?
> >
> > I want to offer a basic counterpoint to this: what if the question is
> > just
> > from a beginner, who has in fact researched a problem found the
> > documentation/resources incomplete in some way? Is it just because a
> > person
> > is a beginner that you will not offer help?
> >
> > Case in point, and be patient with me. I am not by any means venting
> > here,
> > but I offered a question some time ago about the basic placement of
> > anonymous functions like btn1.onRelease =
> > function(){getURL(_root.variable_name,"_blank");} and also asked about
> > whether or not such a function required the _root if it was in fact on
> > the
> > _root timeline. I actually received some very nice assistance on this
> > and I
> > appreciate the poster, since though I did discover that this was true
> > through experimentation myself, he did give me a short lesson on scope.
> > I
> > had already learned about the Delegate class, but this basic issue was
> > not
> > clear in my reading, so I would not know I had to use _root or Delegate
> > or
> > what have you. I do know some Javascript and PHP and so programming is
> > not
> > beyond me, but learning a new technology from the ground up is the way I
> > learn generally. I like to know *all* the aspects. So please permit
> > those
> > who are learning and obviously trying the benefit of the doubt.
> >
> > Another thing is further questions on the same subject. In this same
> > issue,
> > I had the question "are such function assignments applicable to a button
> > if
> > the code is placed before the button on the timeline?" I got a no, of
> > course, which was a basic thing I had sketchy knowledge on. What I had
> > was
> > an ad sent to us by a client wherein the previous coder had used on()
> > handlers on the clips and I was trying to rewrite it to include the
> > anonymous functions and our variables, as stated before. When I wrote in
> > the
> > code in a keyframe in the actions layer above where the button was
> > instantiated, it worked, but when a new keyframe in the button layer
> > came
> > up, I had to re-enter the code there as well. This seemed like
> > repetitive
> > work and my further question about this was not answered.
> >
> > My point is, does this make me dumb? No. It would make me lazy however
> > if I
> > did not research this. But this basic practice of where code should be
> > written and how often was not clear to me since the project was not
> > working
> > in subsequent frames and the documentation I had read seemed to say
> > write
> > and be done with it.
> >
> > I suppose I am both asking this general question again, to help solidify
> > my
> > knowledge, and also pointing out that this does not make those who try
> > but
> > fail stupid. All I am saying is that I appreciate all your knowledge on
> > this
> > subject, but please have patience with those who are trying to learn and
> > distinguish them from the vampires who ask questions that are so general
> > that they lack any knowledge of Flash.
> > ___
> > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
> > To change your subscription options or search the archive:
> > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
> >
> > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software
> > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training
> > http://www.figleaf.com
> > http://training.figleaf.com
> >
> >
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> >
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> > http://training.figleaf.com
> >
> >
> > I suppose I am both asking this general question again, to help
> > solidify my knowledge, and also pointing out that this does not make
> > those who try but fail stupid. All I am saying is that I appreciate
> > all your knowledge on this subject, but please have patience with
> > those who are trying to learn and distinguish them from the vampires
> > who ask questions that are so general that they lack any knowledge of
> > Flash.
> Entirely and completely I support this comrade.
>
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Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] RE: [Flashcoders] Are you a help vampire?

2006-04-27 Thread ????? ???????

Jim Tann ?:

http://www.osflash.org/flashcoders/as2#handling_scope_in_event_handlers


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan
Berry
Sent: 26 April 2006 23:53
To: Flashcoders mailing list
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Are you a help vampire?

I want to offer a basic counterpoint to this: what if the question is
just
from a beginner, who has in fact researched a problem found the
documentation/resources incomplete in some way? Is it just because a
person
is a beginner that you will not offer help?

Case in point, and be patient with me. I am not by any means venting
here,
but I offered a question some time ago about the basic placement of
anonymous functions like btn1.onRelease =
function(){getURL(_root.variable_name,"_blank");} and also asked about
whether or not such a function required the _root if it was in fact on
the
_root timeline. I actually received some very nice assistance on this
and I
appreciate the poster, since though I did discover that this was true
through experimentation myself, he did give me a short lesson on scope.
I
had already learned about the Delegate class, but this basic issue was
not
clear in my reading, so I would not know I had to use _root or Delegate
or
what have you. I do know some Javascript and PHP and so programming is
not
beyond me, but learning a new technology from the ground up is the way I
learn generally. I like to know *all* the aspects. So please permit
those
who are learning and obviously trying the benefit of the doubt.

Another thing is further questions on the same subject. In this same
issue,
I had the question "are such function assignments applicable to a button
if
the code is placed before the button on the timeline?" I got a no, of
course, which was a basic thing I had sketchy knowledge on. What I had
was
an ad sent to us by a client wherein the previous coder had used on()
handlers on the clips and I was trying to rewrite it to include the
anonymous functions and our variables, as stated before. When I wrote in
the
code in a keyframe in the actions layer above where the button was
instantiated, it worked, but when a new keyframe in the button layer
came
up, I had to re-enter the code there as well. This seemed like
repetitive
work and my further question about this was not answered.

My point is, does this make me dumb? No. It would make me lazy however
if I
did not research this. But this basic practice of where code should be
written and how often was not clear to me since the project was not
working
in subsequent frames and the documentation I had read seemed to say
write
and be done with it.

I suppose I am both asking this general question again, to help solidify
my
knowledge, and also pointing out that this does not make those who try
but
fail stupid. All I am saying is that I appreciate all your knowledge on
this
subject, but please have patience with those who are trying to learn and
distinguish them from the vampires who ask questions that are so general
that they lack any knowledge of Flash.
___
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I suppose I am both asking this general question again, to help 
solidify my knowledge, and also pointing out that this does not make 
those who try but fail stupid. All I am saying is that I appreciate 
all your knowledge on this subject, but please have patience with 
those who are trying to learn and distinguish them from the vampires 
who ask questions that are so general that they lack any knowledge of 
Flash.

Entirely and completely I support this comrade.

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