There is no flash application on the web that was designed with mobile
devices in mind.
There are people working on just those things. I'm one of them and I'll
tell you why.
I've created mobile apps for the Android market and there are advantages to
that. But there are also advantages to putting apps on your intranet or
internet site. This lets me distribute my app to any device or tablet,
provide instant updates and bug fixes (the user doesn't have worry about
having the latest version as they do with apps), I can use Flex in the
browser and by default (but not limited to) the app can use a universal
layout because the browser allows the user to zoom in or out on it's
viewport. If you've created mobile apps you'll know about DPI's. Of course
Flex handles this in 4.6 as well!
I've looked at the mobile framework and there are about 2% of it that isn't
compatible with the browser. I know because I've ported it to the browser
and it's fast and it works (including the touch interaction). The 2% that
doesn't convert is the AIR features and half of those have alternatives.
btw I found out there are posts out there showing how to do this (they used
a different method). If Adobe approves it maybe they can take out the AIR
dependencies and allow the mobile components to run in the browser.
People hate Flash because it doesn't have or provide the basic features
that HTML and browsers have. And people blame it on Flash developers not
adding those features but they shouldn't have to. Also, because in general
it costs money to create flash content (Flash pro) and it's controlled by a
single company that can fix it break it or take it away on a whim (ie Flash
Player on mobile). Usually people don't hate something that doesn't affect
them. I think they'd rather see it fixed and working. I'm rambling...
On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 5:12 AM, Haykel BEN JEMIA hayke...@gmail.comwrote:
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Interesting answers but they almost all are based on the assumption that
you have much time and enough money to waste. You can do almost everything
with HTML/JS/CSS, but for many things you will require much (really much)
more time than with Flash. I say 'almost' because there are things you
can't do, an example is applications using peer-assisted networking
(peer-to-peer), which is a realworld project I'm working on currently.
Let's stop this war because both technologies are complementary and there
are things you should do with one technology and others with other
technologies.
Now regarding the attitude of Adobe, it's true that the way they did the
annoucement was not 'friendly', but it was actually a logical decision.
There is no flash application on the web that was designed with mobile
devices in mind. Users generally install apps on their devices and we have
AIR for that, especially with the new native extensions there is no
limitations to what you can do anymore. Developing using Flash and native
languages for extensions is a new way of developing applications and it
should be the same for web apps, where we develop with Flash and HTML.
The reality is that every technology has its advantages and as a developer
you have to know when to use each one.
Haykel Ben Jemia
Allmas
Web RIA Development
http://www.allmas-tn.com
On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Rick Winscot rick.wins...@zyche.comwrote:
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Uh… the original question is pretty simple - can you do anything [ like
the link provided ] in HTML / CSS? The short answer is, yes. Since you
opened a can of worms… I'll bite.
Specs not yet finished… blah blah blah. If you're looking for a
language to get carved in stone before you write a line of code… good luck.
There are plenty of apps out there that are working just fine on 'draft'
technology. Innovation typically drives change – not the other way around.
Newer features… bah! If you find a browser that supports the features
you must have… try to standardize on that browser if you can. If you can't…
then cross that bridge if you have to come to it and not before. Getting
your panties in a wad over something that isn't on your plate is a waste of
time.
One code-base everywhere… Urk. Really? I thought that was what Flash
was supposed to do! Seriously… I don't know what you're trying to say here.
If you need an HTML/CSS app that runs just about anywhere… wrap it in AIR
and move on. Did he even state that it needs to run on desktop, mobile,
tablets, and the voyager I spacecraft?
Any good programmer… barf. I do get sick of pious comments like this. I
mean – the guy just asked a simple question. Architecture is a subject best
served after a developer has a chance to get cozy with the technology. I
mean – I appreciate your desire to go deep on this question but really…
milk before meat. The question was simple – if he needs more – let the
subject blossom.
From: Robert VanCuren Jr robert.vancuren...@gmail.com
Reply-To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
