RE: [flexcoders] What Thermo is.

2007-10-03 Thread Giles Taylor
SSSHHH, nobody mention Expression Blend ;)

Looks like it hits the designer sweet spot much better though!

 

From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom 
Chiverton
Sent: 03 October 2007 10:26
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [flexcoders] What Thermo is.

 

So, Thermo is like a super version of Flex Builders Design view, without the 
other bits of Builder/Eclipse.
Very funky !
-- 
Tom Chiverton
Helping to revolutionarily supply cutting-edge meta-services
on: http://thefalken.livejournal.com



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RE: [flexcoders] Flex cookbook article: Flex2 XML Reader Can Create UIComponents

2007-05-18 Thread Giles Taylor
Would this be what you are looking for?

http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/Flex_Module_for_Apache_and_IIS

 

Giles

 

From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Austin Kottke
Sent: 17 May 2007 21:09
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex cookbook article: Flex2 XML Reader Can
Create UIComponents

 

Ely,

I find runtime MXML something that would be invaluable.

It is something that if implemented could make developing in flex a
lot more scaleable and integration with the server end would be a lot
more feasible. (As in doing HTTPRequests where serverside MXML could be
generated through Velocity/JSP and then given back to the ui) A lot of
developers don't know a thing about flex, but can learn basic MXML for
layout or simple scripting and implement basic server side operations.
And if these are kept just as mxml it makes updates in the future
easier. We can then just tell someone (edit the MXML) and you're done,
instead of "download the flex sdk, set your ant build, yada ya" -- some
aren't programmers, but MXML is very easy to learn. It's a lot more
confrontable for a designer/layout guy to tackle.

Anyway, runtime MXML would be something that would majorly increase
scalability and integration with servers - similar to the Apache IIS mod
for JSP, etc - the only problem is that it's just for Apache or IIS.
Some run tomcat, resin, etc. But having it on the client end would
eliminate this problem.

Best, austin

Ely Greenfield wrote: 

 

 

Austin et. al. -

 

There are a number of features of MXML that simply can't be
replicated at runtime. Things like script blocks. Other features would
be prohibitively difficult (arbitrary binding expressions, @Embed,
mx:Component, among others).  You could reduce MXML to a
runtime-parsable subset, and I know various people have taken various
approaches to this.  The more you reduce it, the easier it would be to
replicate...removing repeaters, implicit arrays, default properties,
etc. would get you down to something that could be implemented in a
reasonable amount of time.

 

I'm curious...how many people would find runtime MXML to be
important to them?

 

Ely.

 

 

From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug McCune
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 12:47 PM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex cookbook article: Flex2 XML
Reader Can Create UIComponents

 

Yeah, ummm, my advice would be ignore that article. That's one
of the effects of having an article submission process that allows
anyone to submit anything. I know the cookbook is supposed to be user
generated and reviewed, but anyone from Adobe want to exercise a little
editorial control? I wouldn't mind the hand of god going in there and
selectively removing a little content... sometimes democracy needs a
helping hand. 




On 5/17/07, Daniel Freiman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I think they're just stating that the mx.modules package exists.
The sentence "We also know Flex2 knows how to read MXML at runtime
because the compiler knows how to convert MXML into GUI Objects" doesn't
inspire confidence that they know what they're talking about.  Since
it's possible that they don't know what a compiler does, it's also
possible they're just writing and compiling Modules and don't understand
that they're doing it.  Then again, that wouldn't explain what they're
fighting with another company about earlier in the article. 

They claim what they're talking about is in the docs so I'd
either search them or not worry about it.  My guess is you'd be
searching a long time for something that isn't there.  It would be nice
if someone could prove my guess wrong though. 

Dan Freiman
nondocs  

 

On 5/17/07, Austin Kottke <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:

Hi,

There is an intriguing article in the flex cookbook on the adobe
site about 
reading in MXML at runtime and using the XML object to create
components
at runtime. While
I don't totally get how this works as there are no code samples,
but
very vague actually, but it states:

"Let's consider, for a moment, how Adobe might have chosen to
leverage 
reuse within the Flex2 programming model.

"Assuming the Adobe engineers did not want to have to recreate
the wheel
in terms of how to make Flex2 able to load normal non-GUI XML I
would
surmise they chose to simply reuse whatever code they wrote that
was 
able to read MXML into a way to read XML.

"As we know, MXML resembles XML rather closely. Heck, MXML is
XML !
Yipee, now I can easily read MXML because it is essentially a