Re: [flexcoders] Flex and REST
For anyone else investigating this here's a collection of reading: http://delicious.com/danny_t/flex+REST It's not clear-cut by any means but I think you really need a better understanding of what's going on on the server-side (does it accept POST for each request, does it allow x-http-method-override etc). 2009/9/3 Richard Rodseth > > > The other issue is error responses. In the apps I work on we have specific > XML or JSON result formats for application errors, which means the Flex app > must handle those responses differently. If the service is using HTTP header > error responses instead I believe the Flex app can't see them, though I > forget the details. > > I assume you've seen this thread: > > > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/153420/is-it-feasible-to-create-a-rest-client-with-flex > > > On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 3:52 AM, claudiu ursica wrote: > >> >> >> If your Rest API is exposing XML you won't be needing any additional >> libs... the HTTPService class will do just fine ... >> >> C >> >> -- >> *From:* Haykel BEN JEMIA >> *To:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com >> *Sent:* Thursday, September 3, 2009 1:45:11 PM >> *Subject:* Re: [flexcoders] Flex and REST >> >> >> >> Anyone tried one of these libs? >> >> http://code. google.com/ >> p/as3httpclient/<http://code.google.com/p/as3httpclient/> >> http://code. google.com/ p/as3httpclientl >> ib/<http://code.google.com/p/as3httpclientlib/> >> >> They seem to support all required http verbs. >> >> Haykel Ben Jemia >> >> Allmas >> Web & RIA Development >> http://www.allmas-tn.com >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 12:55 PM, DannyT > .com >> > wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> Can anyone give me the definitive answer to whether you can build REST >>> based apps with Flex? There seems to be an incredible amount of FUD about >>> the topic and whilst I appreciate it might not be supported in it's purest >>> form I need to know what is involved in supporting a full REST >>> implementation. >>> >>> I have no experience with REST but we're in the position that a client is >>> going to implement a RESTful service for us to build a Flex application >>> against. If it will 'just work' then great, if not I need to educate them as >>> to any considerations/ workarounds necesscary on the service side of things. >>> >>> Can anyone offer any advice? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Dan >>> >>> -- >>> http://danny-t.co.uk >>> >> >> >> > > -- http://danny-t.co.uk
Re: [flexcoders] Flex and REST
The other issue is error responses. In the apps I work on we have specific XML or JSON result formats for application errors, which means the Flex app must handle those responses differently. If the service is using HTTP header error responses instead I believe the Flex app can't see them, though I forget the details. I assume you've seen this thread: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/153420/is-it-feasible-to-create-a-rest-client-with-flex On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 3:52 AM, claudiu ursica wrote: > > > If your Rest API is exposing XML you won't be needing any additional > libs... the HTTPService class will do just fine ... > > C > > -- > *From:* Haykel BEN JEMIA > *To:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com > *Sent:* Thursday, September 3, 2009 1:45:11 PM > *Subject:* Re: [flexcoders] Flex and REST > > > > Anyone tried one of these libs? > > http://code. google.com/ > p/as3httpclient/<http://code.google.com/p/as3httpclient/> > http://code. google.com/ p/as3httpclientl > ib/<http://code.google.com/p/as3httpclientlib/> > > They seem to support all required http verbs. > > Haykel Ben Jemia > > Allmas > Web & RIA Development > http://www.allmas-tn.com > > > > > On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 12:55 PM, DannyT .com > > wrote: > >> >> >> Can anyone give me the definitive answer to whether you can build REST >> based apps with Flex? There seems to be an incredible amount of FUD about >> the topic and whilst I appreciate it might not be supported in it's purest >> form I need to know what is involved in supporting a full REST >> implementation. >> >> I have no experience with REST but we're in the position that a client is >> going to implement a RESTful service for us to build a Flex application >> against. If it will 'just work' then great, if not I need to educate them as >> to any considerations/ workarounds necesscary on the service side of things. >> >> Can anyone offer any advice? >> >> Cheers, >> Dan >> >> -- >> http://danny-t.co.uk >> > > > >
Re: [flexcoders] Flex and REST
If your Rest API is exposing XML you won't be needing any additional libs... the HTTPService class will do just fine ... C From: Haykel BEN JEMIA To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2009 1:45:11 PM Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex and REST Anyone tried one of these libs? http://code. google.com/ p/as3httpclient/ http://code. google.com/ p/as3httpclientl ib/ They seem to support all required http verbs. Haykel Ben Jemia Allmas Web & RIA Development http://www.allmas-tn.com On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 12:55 PM, DannyT wrote: > >Can anyone give me the definitive answer to whether you can build REST based >apps with Flex? There seems to be an incredible amount of FUD about the topic >and whilst I appreciate it might not be supported in it's purest form I need >to know what is involved in supporting a full REST implementation. > >I have no experience with REST but we're in the position that a client is >going to implement a RESTful service for us to build a Flex application >against. If it will 'just work' then great, if not I need to educate them as >to any considerations/ workarounds necesscary on the service side of things. > >Can anyone offer any advice? > >Cheers, >Dan > >-- >http://danny-t.co.uk >
Re: [flexcoders] Flex and REST
Anyone tried one of these libs? http://code.google.com/p/as3httpclient/ http://code.google.com/p/as3httpclientlib/ They seem to support all required http verbs. Haykel Ben Jemia Allmas Web & RIA Development http://www.allmas-tn.com On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 12:55 PM, DannyT wrote: > > > Can anyone give me the definitive answer to whether you can build REST > based apps with Flex? There seems to be an incredible amount of FUD about > the topic and whilst I appreciate it might not be supported in it's purest > form I need to know what is involved in supporting a full REST > implementation. > > I have no experience with REST but we're in the position that a client is > going to implement a RESTful service for us to build a Flex application > against. If it will 'just work' then great, if not I need to educate them as > to any considerations/workarounds necesscary on the service side of things. > > Can anyone offer any advice? > > Cheers, > Dan > > -- > http://danny-t.co.uk > >
Re: [flexcoders] Flex and REST
Yes we did it using post and get only... And it works C From: Guy Morton To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2009 3:56:47 PM Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex and REST Many REST-ish APIs just use POST and GET anyway, as support for other HTTP verbs can be patchy. On 02/09/2009, at 10:10 PM, claudiu ursica wrote: > > > >TO go RESTfull you'll have to use all teh methods like GET, POST, PUT, >DELETE, which is kind of hard to do. You probably end up using lots of post >from flex, even instead of get... You still can build the REST api and use it >like that only with GET and POST... not 100% rest but will work... > >C > > > > > > From: DannyT >To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com >Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2009 2:55:31 PM >Subject: [flexcoders] Flex and REST > > > >Can anyone give me the definitive answer to whether you can build REST based >apps with Flex? There seems to be an incredible amount of FUD about the topic >and whilst I appreciate it might not be supported in it's purest form I need >to know what is involved in supporting a full REST implementation. > >I have no experience with REST but we're in the position that a client is >going to implement a RESTful service for us to build a Flex application >against. If it will 'just work' then great, if not I need to educate them as >to any considerations/ workarounds necesscary on the service side of things. > >Can anyone offer any advice? > >Cheers, >Dan > >-- >http://danny-t.co.uk/ > > > >
Re: [flexcoders] Flex and REST
Many REST-ish APIs just use POST and GET anyway, as support for other HTTP verbs can be patchy. On 02/09/2009, at 10:10 PM, claudiu ursica wrote: TO go RESTfull you'll have to use all teh methods like GET, POST, PUT, DELETE, which is kind of hard to do. You probably end up using lots of post from flex, even instead of get... You still can build the REST api and use it like that only with GET and POST... not 100% rest but will work... C From: DannyT To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2009 2:55:31 PM Subject: [flexcoders] Flex and REST Can anyone give me the definitive answer to whether you can build REST based apps with Flex? There seems to be an incredible amount of FUD about the topic and whilst I appreciate it might not be supported in it's purest form I need to know what is involved in supporting a full REST implementation. I have no experience with REST but we're in the position that a client is going to implement a RESTful service for us to build a Flex application against. If it will 'just work' then great, if not I need to educate them as to any considerations/ workarounds necesscary on the service side of things. Can anyone offer any advice? Cheers, Dan -- http://danny-t.co.uk
Re: [flexcoders] Flex and REST
Okay so as I understand it, it is not possible for Flex (or Flash) by itself to be RESTful "out of the box". This is possibly due to Flash Player working to the lowest common denominator of browsers some of which do not support the full RESTful methods (namely PUT and DELETE). This however isn't necesscarily a show-stopper as various workarounds exist, some of which rely on using a proxy to translate the request into the appropriate method and some of which are purely client side workarounds such as passing the request to javascript or there may be the possibility of using some form of socket? If given a RESTful api to work with, with no control over the service, has anyone tackled a project of this type and to what degree of success? Alternatively, if you did have control over the service what are the drawbacks of just allowing GET and POST requests for everything and not making use of PUT and DELETE? is it just a case that you're not using the most cohesive interface possible but you have no restriction on functionality or are there other considerations? Apologies, but before this I had never really given REST/RESTful any thought or consideration so this is all new territory for me. Dan 2009/9/2 claudiu ursica > > > TO go RESTfull you'll have to use all teh methods like GET, POST, PUT, > DELETE, which is kind of hard to do. You probably end up using lots of post > from flex, even instead of get... You still can build the REST api and use > it like that only with GET and POST... not 100% rest but will work... > > C > > > > -- > *From:* DannyT > *To:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 2, 2009 2:55:31 PM > *Subject:* [flexcoders] Flex and REST > > > > Can anyone give me the definitive answer to whether you can build REST > based apps with Flex? There seems to be an incredible amount of FUD about > the topic and whilst I appreciate it might not be supported in it's purest > form I need to know what is involved in supporting a full REST > implementation. > > I have no experience with REST but we're in the position that a client is > going to implement a RESTful service for us to build a Flex application > against. If it will 'just work' then great, if not I need to educate them as > to any considerations/ workarounds necesscary on the service side of things. > > Can anyone offer any advice? > > Cheers, > Dan > > -- > http://danny-t.co.uk > > > -- http://danny-t.co.uk
Re: [flexcoders] Flex and REST
TO go RESTfull you'll have to use all teh methods like GET, POST, PUT, DELETE, which is kind of hard to do. You probably end up using lots of post from flex, even instead of get... You still can build the REST api and use it like that only with GET and POST... not 100% rest but will work... C From: DannyT To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2009 2:55:31 PM Subject: [flexcoders] Flex and REST Can anyone give me the definitive answer to whether you can build REST based apps with Flex? There seems to be an incredible amount of FUD about the topic and whilst I appreciate it might not be supported in it's purest form I need to know what is involved in supporting a full REST implementation. I have no experience with REST but we're in the position that a client is going to implement a RESTful service for us to build a Flex application against. If it will 'just work' then great, if not I need to educate them as to any considerations/ workarounds necesscary on the service side of things. Can anyone offer any advice? Cheers, Dan -- http://danny-t.co.uk
Re: [flexcoders] Flex and REST
Can you be a bit more specific? What do you mean by REST? If by rest you mean you hit a service you get some results and 'draw' them in flex yes you can do that in more than one ways (remoteObject, httpservice, urlrequest and so on), but i imagine you are interested in httpservice with xml data as the response. On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 2:55 PM, DannyT wrote: > > > Can anyone give me the definitive answer to whether you can build REST > based apps with Flex? There seems to be an incredible amount of FUD about > the topic and whilst I appreciate it might not be supported in it's purest > form I need to know what is involved in supporting a full REST > implementation. > > I have no experience with REST but we're in the position that a client is > going to implement a RESTful service for us to build a Flex application > against. If it will 'just work' then great, if not I need to educate them as > to any considerations/workarounds necesscary on the service side of things. > > Can anyone offer any advice? > > Cheers, > Dan > > -- > http://danny-t.co.uk > > -- Fotis Chatzinikos, Ph.D. Founder, Phinnovation fotis.chatzini...@gmail.com,
[flexcoders] Flex and REST
Can anyone give me the definitive answer to whether you can build REST based apps with Flex? There seems to be an incredible amount of FUD about the topic and whilst I appreciate it might not be supported in it's purest form I need to know what is involved in supporting a full REST implementation. I have no experience with REST but we're in the position that a client is going to implement a RESTful service for us to build a Flex application against. If it will 'just work' then great, if not I need to educate them as to any considerations/workarounds necesscary on the service side of things. Can anyone offer any advice? Cheers, Dan -- http://danny-t.co.uk
