Re: [flexcoders] Re: Can someone help me understand this price info and what I get for it?

2006-09-11 Thread Paul Andrews 
I think the list price is more of an initial negotiation point rather than
set in stone tablets. There's no cost involved in talking your project over
with adobe and seeing how things turn out. I have yet to experience any
major vendor actually sell something to a big project and remain firm on
price. How good are your negotiating skills?

Paul

- Original Message - 
From: "David Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 5:12 PM
Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Can someone help me understand this price info and
what I get for it?


> Thanks for the answer.  Not what I wanted to hear ;)
>
> Well I can't see us paying 80,000 (20k per cpu times 2 cpu's times 2
> servers)
>
> So that sell is out.
>
> David
>
> --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "Matt Chotin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Per application means a conceptual application.  Each one of our
> samples
> > is an application.  While the component explorer is made up of
> over 100
> > small application.mxml files it is still conceptually 1 application
> > because it's delivered through that one URL.
> >
> >
> >
> > So for departmental it doesn't matter how many CPUs you actually
> have,
> > you are limited to 100 concurrent users across the whole cluster
> for a
> > given application
> > (section 3.1.2 in the EULA doesn't say per CPU it says per CPU
> > group/cluster).  If you want to support more than 100 concurrent
> users
> > you will need to use the enterprise license.
> >
> >
> >
> > HTH,
> >
> > Matt
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> > From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > Behalf Of David Brown
> > Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 4:02 PM
> > To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [flexcoders] Can someone help me understand this price
> info and
> > what I get for it?
> >
> >
> >
> > Flex Data Services (Departmental license) : $6,000 per CPU, with a
> > limit of 100 concurrent users per cluster
> >
> > Q3: How do you measure concurrent users in the Flex Data Services
> > departmental license?
> >
> > A: Concurrent users will be counted by the number of unique IP
> > connections to the CPU and/or CPU cluster
> >
> > We have two hardware load balanced servers both with two cpu's in
> > them. They are not clustered in anyway.
> >
> > Does this mean I can have 200 concurrent users (100 for one server
> and
> > 100 for the other server) because each server has 2 cpu's and is
> 12k
> > each.
> >
> > Or does this mean that I can have 400 concurrent users (100 per cpu
> > per box) so 2 cpus one server and 2 cpu's the other gives me 400?
> >
> > The EULA also reads:
> > http://www.adobe.com/products/eulas/pdfs/AdobeFlexSDK-
> DataServices2_0.pd
> > f#search=%22flex%20data%20services%20departmental%22
> > <http://www.adobe.com/products/eulas/pdfs/AdobeFlexSDK-
> DataServices2_0.p
> > df#search=%22flex%20data%20services%20departmental%22>
> > About 100 per application per cpu.. But this is beyond me.
> >
> > Any help. Thanks
> >
> > David
> >
>
>
>
>
>
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[flexcoders] Re: Can someone help me understand this price info and what I get for it?

2006-09-11 Thread David Brown 
Thanks for the answer.  Not what I wanted to hear ;)

Well I can't see us paying 80,000 (20k per cpu times 2 cpu's times 2 
servers)

So that sell is out.

David

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "Matt Chotin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Per application means a conceptual application.  Each one of our 
samples
> is an application.  While the component explorer is made up of 
over 100
> small application.mxml files it is still conceptually 1 application
> because it's delivered through that one URL. 
> 
>  
> 
> So for departmental it doesn't matter how many CPUs you actually 
have,
> you are limited to 100 concurrent users across the whole cluster 
for a
> given application 
> (section 3.1.2 in the EULA doesn't say per CPU it says per CPU
> group/cluster).  If you want to support more than 100 concurrent 
users
> you will need to use the enterprise license.
> 
>  
> 
> HTH,
> 
> Matt
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of David Brown
> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 4:02 PM
> To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [flexcoders] Can someone help me understand this price 
info and
> what I get for it?
> 
>  
> 
> Flex Data Services (Departmental license) : $6,000 per CPU, with a
> limit of 100 concurrent users per cluster
> 
> Q3: How do you measure concurrent users in the Flex Data Services
> departmental license?
> 
> A: Concurrent users will be counted by the number of unique IP
> connections to the CPU and/or CPU cluster
> 
> We have two hardware load balanced servers both with two cpu's in
> them. They are not clustered in anyway.
> 
> Does this mean I can have 200 concurrent users (100 for one server 
and
> 100 for the other server) because each server has 2 cpu's and is 
12k
> each.
> 
> Or does this mean that I can have 400 concurrent users (100 per cpu
> per box) so 2 cpus one server and 2 cpu's the other gives me 400?
> 
> The EULA also reads:
> http://www.adobe.com/products/eulas/pdfs/AdobeFlexSDK-
DataServices2_0.pd
> f#search=%22flex%20data%20services%20departmental%22
>  df#search=%22flex%20data%20services%20departmental%22> 
> About 100 per application per cpu.. But this is beyond me.
> 
> Any help. Thanks
> 
> David
>






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