RE: [flexcoders] Re: Flex and Adsense

2007-06-06 Thread Benoit Hediard
It’s possible to put some html div layer on top of a flash/flex app.

But, in order to that, you must use wmode as opaque or transparent.

And if you do that: you’ll face the famous Firefox bug where most keyboard
inputs for special characters is screwed up.

Pretty annoying…

 

Right now, Ad servers are not ready to serve ad for flash/flex, all of them
rely on Javascript…

Adobe might try to do something about that and ask for flash compatibility
to the biggest Ad servers (Google AdSense, DoubleClick DART, RealMedia Open
AdStream…)?

 

Benoit Hediard

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part de alex steel
Envoyé : mardi 5 juin 2007 20:09
À : flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Objet : [flexcoders] Re: Flex and Adsense

 

if you want I can make example of html over flex, with alternative content
but I'm sure almost everyone here can do that 

thnx
Alex

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com ,
Judith Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Actually, Michael says that Adsense is a piece of JavaScript that
remotely
 pulls in content. Straightforward, but the content being pulled in,
which is
 essentially HTML, needs to be placed on the page in context. So if
the page
 is a Flex application, then the Flex application has to accept that
content
 and display it.
 
 Michael says that he's sure Flex can accept content from JavaScript and
 display it, but it runs into the problem that Adsense will deliver the
 content based on the contextual content of the page. Google has seen the
 page and knows what's on it. So therefore, Google has to see
something on
 the page that says, Hey, let's put a proper ad in. Google can't
read Flash
 content... That's where your problem comes in.
 
 So how do you solve that problem? The solution is to have the Flex
 application on a page that has content, or expose all the Flex
content in
 the application on the page for Google to see.
 
 Judith
 
 On 6/5/07, Judith Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Actually, if someone has found a way to do so, I'd love to publish
it as a
  short article on FA online. :)
 
  Judith Dinowitz
  Editor-in-Chief
  Fusion Authority
  http://www.fusionauthority.com/
 
  On 6/5/07, Romain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Maybe some Adobe Flex/Apollo evangelist could take up the gauntlet ?
   Any in the room ?
  
   --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com , James jwilson@ wrote:
   
Well if it is true that their current TOS disallows flash site
usage,
then we need to start a petition or something. But first we
need to
get Google's official stance. Anyone up to writing them a friendly
email? :)
   
-James
   
  
  
  
  
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RE: [flexcoders] Re: Flex and Adsense

2007-06-06 Thread Giro
This is a solution. JamJar place AdSense on a iframe.

 

Giro.

 

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Enviado el: martes, 05 de junio de 2007 21:31
Para: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Asunto: [flexcoders] Re: Flex and Adsense

 

It's not in the flash player, but Adobe put google adds along side 
jamjar on labs:

http://labs. http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/jamjar/
adobe.com/technologies/jamjar/

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it as a
 short article on FA online. :)
 
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  Maybe some Adobe Flex/Apollo evangelist could take up the 
gauntlet ?
  Any in the room ?
 
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ups.com, James jwilson@ wrote:
  
   Well if it is true that their current TOS disallows flash site 
usage,
   then we need to start a petition or something. But first we 
need to
   get Google's official stance. Anyone up to writing them a 
friendly
   email? :)
  
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[flexcoders] Re: Flex and Adsense

2007-06-06 Thread alex steel
yes you were right about flash wmode = transparent
sorry, I was faster then brain so I though about other thing
nevermind 
good example of divs over flash can be found here
http://particletree.com/features/using-flash-as-an-animation-underlayer/

greetz
Alex

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Paul deCoursey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It has been my experience that the Flash does have to be set to 
 transparent when a div is over it. Maybe that has changed in Flash 9.
 
 alex steel wrote:
  html div is over flash, so flash doesn't have to be transparent
 
  that's it 
  I will post example asap :)
 
  all the best
  Alex
  --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Benoit Hediard ben@ wrote:

  It's possible to put some html div layer on top of a flash/flex app.
 
  But, in order to that, you must use wmode as opaque or transparent.
 
  And if you do that: you'll face the famous Firefox bug where most
  
  keyboard

  inputs for special characters is screwed up.
 
  Pretty annoying…
 
   
 
  
 
 
 





Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex and Adsense

2007-06-06 Thread Troy Gilbert

I thought DoubleClick DART *was* a Flash-based ad-delivery mechanism? On
their examples page, they show ads being integrated into a Flash
animation... ?

Troy.


On 6/6/07, Benoit Hediard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


   It's possible to put some html div layer on top of a flash/flex app.

But, in order to that, you must use wmode as opaque or transparent.

And if you do that: you'll face the famous Firefox bug where most keyboard
inputs for special characters is screwed up.

Pretty annoying…



Right now, Ad servers are not ready to serve ad for flash/flex, all of
them rely on Javascript…

Adobe might try to do something about that and ask for flash compatibility
to the biggest Ad servers (Google AdSense, DoubleClick DART, RealMedia Open
AdStream…)?



Benoit Hediard

#affinitiz.com



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la part de* alex steel
*Envoyé :* mardi 5 juin 2007 20:09
*À :* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
*Objet :* [flexcoders] Re: Flex and Adsense



if you want I can make example of html over flex, with alternative content
but I'm sure almost everyone here can do that

thnx
Alex

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com, Judith
Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Actually, Michael says that Adsense is a piece of JavaScript that
remotely
 pulls in content. Straightforward, but the content being pulled in,
which is
 essentially HTML, needs to be placed on the page in context. So if
the page
 is a Flex application, then the Flex application has to accept that
content
 and display it.

 Michael says that he's sure Flex can accept content from JavaScript and
 display it, but it runs into the problem that Adsense will deliver the
 content based on the contextual content of the page. Google has seen the
 page and knows what's on it. So therefore, Google has to see
something on
 the page that says, Hey, let's put a proper ad in. Google can't
read Flash
 content... That's where your problem comes in.

 So how do you solve that problem? The solution is to have the Flex
 application on a page that has content, or expose all the Flex
content in
 the application on the page for Google to see.

 Judith

 On 6/5/07, Judith Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Actually, if someone has found a way to do so, I'd love to publish
it as a
  short article on FA online. :)
 
  Judith Dinowitz
  Editor-in-Chief
  Fusion Authority
  http://www.fusionauthority.com/
 
  On 6/5/07, Romain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Maybe some Adobe Flex/Apollo evangelist could take up the gauntlet ?
   Any in the room ?
  
   --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com,
James jwilson@ wrote:
   
Well if it is true that their current TOS disallows flash site
usage,
then we need to start a petition or something. But first we
need to
get Google's official stance. Anyone up to writing them a friendly
email? :)
   
-James
   
  
  
  
  
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[flexcoders] Re: Flex and Adsense

2007-06-05 Thread Rohan Pinto
i tried htmlCOntrol and also iframes, it just didnt work...

Rohan

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Giro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Anybody investigate to integrate Adsense on flex application. 
 
  
 
 Is legal? We can use a htmlcontrol?
 
  
 
 Any idea
 
  
 
 Thk.
 
 Giro.





[flexcoders] Re: Flex and Adsense

2007-06-05 Thread James
I am also interested in a solution. First thing that comes to mind
would be (gasp) html frames.



[flexcoders] Re: Flex and Adsense

2007-06-05 Thread reude
I looked at this and apparently under the TOS from Adsense, it is not
authorized to integrate Adsense into Software Applications
otherwise they will terminate your account.

Romain.


--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Rohan Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 i tried htmlCOntrol and also iframes, it just didnt work...
 
 Rohan
 
 --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Giro giro@ wrote:
 
  Anybody investigate to integrate Adsense on flex application. 
  
   
  
  Is legal? We can use a htmlcontrol?
  
   
  
  Any idea
  
   
  
  Thk.
  
  Giro.
 





[flexcoders] Re: Flex and Adsense

2007-06-05 Thread James
It is a flash site. It is not a Software Application.

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, reude [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I looked at this and apparently under the TOS from Adsense, it is not
 authorized to integrate Adsense into Software Applications
 otherwise they will terminate your account.
 
 Romain.
 



[flexcoders] Re: Flex and Adsense

2007-06-05 Thread Romain
I don't know but from their TOS (
https://www.google.com/adsense/support/bin/answer.py?answer=48182sourceid=asosubid=ww-ww-et-asuimedium=linkgsessionid=npfYqhKshv0
), they seems pretty stingent on things like:
 Any AdSense code must be pasted directly into webpages without
modification. AdSense participants are not allowed to alter any
portion of the code or change the behavior, targeting, or delivery of
ads. For instance, clicks on Google ads may not result in a new
browser window being launched. 
or
 No Google ad may be placed on any non-content-based pages. 

How do they consider a flex app ? it is not so clear..

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It is a flash site. It is not a Software Application.
 
 --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, reude Romain.Eude@ wrote:
 
  I looked at this and apparently under the TOS from Adsense, it is not
  authorized to integrate Adsense into Software Applications
  otherwise they will terminate your account.
  
  Romain.
 





[flexcoders] Re: Flex and Adsense

2007-06-05 Thread alex steel
you can always put div box over flash containing adsense html code
look out for css z-index with flash use ...



[flexcoders] Re: Flex and Adsense

2007-06-05 Thread James
Well if it is true that their current TOS disallows flash site usage,
then we need to start a petition or something. But first we need to
get Google's official stance. Anyone up to writing them a friendly
email? :)

-James



[flexcoders] Re: Flex and Adsense

2007-06-05 Thread Romain
Maybe some Adobe Flex/Apollo evangelist could take up the gauntlet ?
Any in the room ?

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Well if it is true that their current TOS disallows flash site usage,
 then we need to start a petition or something. But first we need to
 get Google's official stance. Anyone up to writing them a friendly
 email? :)
 
 -James





Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex and Adsense

2007-06-05 Thread Judith Dinowitz

Actually, if someone has found a way to do so, I'd love to publish it as a
short article on FA online. :)

Judith Dinowitz
Editor-in-Chief
Fusion Authority
http://www.fusionauthority.com/

On 6/5/07, Romain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Maybe some Adobe Flex/Apollo evangelist could take up the gauntlet ?
Any in the room ?

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Well if it is true that their current TOS disallows flash site usage,
 then we need to start a petition or something. But first we need to
 get Google's official stance. Anyone up to writing them a friendly
 email? :)

 -James





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Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex and Adsense

2007-06-05 Thread Judith Dinowitz

Actually, Michael says that Adsense is a piece of JavaScript that remotely
pulls in content. Straightforward, but the content being pulled in, which is
essentially HTML, needs to be placed on the page in context. So if the page
is a Flex application, then the Flex application has to accept that content
and display it.

Michael says that he's sure Flex can accept content from JavaScript and
display it, but it runs into the problem that Adsense will deliver the
content based on the contextual content of the page. Google has seen the
page and knows what's on it. So therefore, Google has to see something on
the page that says, Hey, let's put a proper ad in. Google can't read Flash
content... That's where your problem comes in.

So how do you solve that problem? The solution is to have the Flex
application on a page that has content, or expose all the Flex content in
the application on the page for Google to see.

Judith

On 6/5/07, Judith Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Actually, if someone has found a way to do so, I'd love to publish it as a
short article on FA online. :)

Judith Dinowitz
Editor-in-Chief
Fusion Authority
http://www.fusionauthority.com/

On 6/5/07, Romain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Maybe some Adobe Flex/Apollo evangelist could take up the gauntlet ?
 Any in the room ?

 --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Well if it is true that their current TOS disallows flash site usage,
  then we need to start a petition or something. But first we need to
  get Google's official stance. Anyone up to writing them a friendly
  email? :)
 
  -James
 




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[flexcoders] Re: Flex and Adsense

2007-06-05 Thread alex steel
if you want I can make example of html over flex, with alternative content
but I'm sure almost everyone here can do that 

thnx
Alex


--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Judith Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Actually, Michael says that Adsense is a piece of JavaScript that
remotely
 pulls in content. Straightforward, but the content being pulled in,
which is
 essentially HTML, needs to be placed on the page in context. So if
the page
 is a Flex application, then the Flex application has to accept that
content
 and display it.
 
 Michael says that he's sure Flex can accept content from JavaScript and
 display it, but it runs into the problem that Adsense will deliver the
 content based on the contextual content of the page. Google has seen the
 page and knows what's on it. So therefore, Google has to see
something on
 the page that says, Hey, let's put a proper ad in. Google can't
read Flash
 content... That's where your problem comes in.
 
 So how do you solve that problem? The solution is to have the Flex
 application on a page that has content, or expose all the Flex
content in
 the application on the page for Google to see.
 
 Judith
 
 On 6/5/07, Judith Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Actually, if someone has found a way to do so, I'd love to publish
it as a
  short article on FA online. :)
 
  Judith Dinowitz
  Editor-in-Chief
  Fusion Authority
  http://www.fusionauthority.com/
 
  On 6/5/07, Romain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Maybe some Adobe Flex/Apollo evangelist could take up the gauntlet ?
   Any in the room ?
  
   --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, James jwilson@ wrote:
   
Well if it is true that their current TOS disallows flash site
usage,
then we need to start a petition or something. But first we
need to
get Google's official stance. Anyone up to writing them a friendly
email? :)
   
-James
   
  
  
  
  
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[flexcoders] Re: Flex and Adsense

2007-06-05 Thread Ariel Jakobovits
What about a proxy page that gets the ads and makes them available in the 
session scope for the Flex app to request?




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[flexcoders] Re: Flex and Adsense

2007-06-05 Thread r1muzard
It's not in the flash player, but Adobe put google adds along side 
jamjar on labs:

http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/jamjar/

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Judith Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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 Actually, if someone has found a way to do so, I'd love to publish 
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 Judith Dinowitz
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 On 6/5/07, Romain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Maybe some Adobe Flex/Apollo evangelist could take up the 
gauntlet ?
  Any in the room ?
 
  --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, James jwilson@ wrote:
  
   Well if it is true that their current TOS disallows flash site 
usage,
   then we need to start a petition or something. But first we 
need to
   get Google's official stance. Anyone up to writing them a 
friendly
   email? :)
  
   -James
  
 
 
 
 
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