[flexcoders] Re: Lightweight framework
Humorous that you say PureMVC ( 21 classes )is on the heavy side, instead suggesting Nimbus ( 24 classes ) as an alternative. -=Cliff --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Hardy aaronius...@... wrote: I'd consider those still being on the heavy side. One we use is called Nimbus and can be found here: http://code.google.com/p/nimbus-as3/ Don't use the available swc since it hasn't been updated in a while. Nimbus is similar to Cairngorm but lighter and cuts out a lot of the plumbing. It also adds undo/redo history and handling of complex macro commands. For example, a parallel command runs a bunch of commands in parallel and a sequence command runs a bunch of commands in sequence. You can also have a parallel command inside of a sequence command inside of a sequence command, for example. The ASDoc inside the code is pretty thorough but there isn't additional documentation yet since the codebase has just reached a fairly stable state. I'm not saying it's for everyone, but you might want to give it a shot. Aaron Jeffry Houser wrote: Flex is a UI framework; I'd hardly consider it the answer to every one of your programming needs. I suspect that the original poster was looking for MVC alternatives. PureMVC ( http://puremvc.org/ ) and Mate ( http://mate.asfusion.com/ ) seem to be the most popular alternatives in terms of MVC frameworks for Flex. EasyMVC ( http://projects.simb.net/easyMVC ) is another one I've heard of. dnk wrote: On 18-Apr-09, at 10:07 PM, zuurl8 wrote: Flex is a lightweight framework. Do you need more then what Flex provides in interface, events, and modules? Well I think that I am talking about things more like code structure, methods of doing things, etc. There are obviously benefits from these other frameworks, otherwise people would not have written them. I do understand where you are coming from, but in my case, I am looking for something a little more than the Flex framework itself. d -- Jeffry Houser, Technical Entrepreneur Adobe Community Expert: http://tinyurl.com/684b5h http://www.twitter.com/reboog711 | Phone: 203-379-0773 -- Easy to use Interface Components for Flex Developers http://www.flextras.com?c=104 -- http://www.theflexshow.com http://www.jeffryhouser.com -- Part of the DotComIt Brain Trust
[flexcoders] Re: Lightweight framework
PS, PureMVC is only 21 classes because there are 11 interfaces, corresponding to their implementations. There are only 11 actual classes in PureMVC. Get back to me when you get your scales fixed :) -=Cliff --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Cliff Hall cl...@... wrote: Humorous that you say PureMVC ( 21 classes )is on the heavy side, instead suggesting Nimbus ( 24 classes ) as an alternative. -=Cliff --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Hardy aaronius9er@ wrote: I'd consider those still being on the heavy side. One we use is called Nimbus and can be found here: http://code.google.com/p/nimbus-as3/ Don't use the available swc since it hasn't been updated in a while. Nimbus is similar to Cairngorm but lighter and cuts out a lot of the plumbing. It also adds undo/redo history and handling of complex macro commands. For example, a parallel command runs a bunch of commands in parallel and a sequence command runs a bunch of commands in sequence. You can also have a parallel command inside of a sequence command inside of a sequence command, for example. The ASDoc inside the code is pretty thorough but there isn't additional documentation yet since the codebase has just reached a fairly stable state. I'm not saying it's for everyone, but you might want to give it a shot. Aaron Jeffry Houser wrote: Flex is a UI framework; I'd hardly consider it the answer to every one of your programming needs. I suspect that the original poster was looking for MVC alternatives. PureMVC ( http://puremvc.org/ ) and Mate ( http://mate.asfusion.com/ ) seem to be the most popular alternatives in terms of MVC frameworks for Flex. EasyMVC ( http://projects.simb.net/easyMVC ) is another one I've heard of. dnk wrote: On 18-Apr-09, at 10:07 PM, zuurl8 wrote: Flex is a lightweight framework. Do you need more then what Flex provides in interface, events, and modules? Well I think that I am talking about things more like code structure, methods of doing things, etc. There are obviously benefits from these other frameworks, otherwise people would not have written them. I do understand where you are coming from, but in my case, I am looking for something a little more than the Flex framework itself. d -- Jeffry Houser, Technical Entrepreneur Adobe Community Expert: http://tinyurl.com/684b5h http://www.twitter.com/reboog711 | Phone: 203-379-0773 -- Easy to use Interface Components for Flex Developers http://www.flextras.com?c=104 -- http://www.theflexshow.com http://www.jeffryhouser.com -- Part of the DotComIt Brain Trust
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Lightweight framework
Hey, lay off your punches. I'm talking about the amount of time/code it takes to implement, not the number of classes inside the library. P.S. I'm not sure where you're getting 24 classes for Nimbus anyway. I'm counting 12 (the four files in the utils directory aren't classes.) Get back to me when you get your scales fixed. Aaron On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 8:36 AM, Cliff Hall cl...@futurescale.com wrote: PS, PureMVC is only 21 classes because there are 11 interfaces, corresponding to their implementations. There are only 11 actual classes in PureMVC. Get back to me when you get your scales fixed :) -=Cliff --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com, Cliff Hall cl...@... wrote: Humorous that you say PureMVC ( 21 classes )is on the heavy side, instead suggesting Nimbus ( 24 classes ) as an alternative. -=Cliff --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com, Aaron Hardy aaronius9er@ wrote: I'd consider those still being on the heavy side. One we use is called Nimbus and can be found here: http://code.google.com/p/nimbus-as3/ Don't use the available swc since it hasn't been updated in a while. Nimbus is similar to Cairngorm but lighter and cuts out a lot of the plumbing. It also adds undo/redo history and handling of complex macro commands. For example, a parallel command runs a bunch of commands in parallel and a sequence command runs a bunch of commands in sequence. You can also have a parallel command inside of a sequence command inside of a sequence command, for example. The ASDoc inside the code is pretty thorough but there isn't additional documentation yet since the codebase has just reached a fairly stable state. I'm not saying it's for everyone, but you might want to give it a shot. Aaron Jeffry Houser wrote: Flex is a UI framework; I'd hardly consider it the answer to every one of your programming needs. I suspect that the original poster was looking for MVC alternatives. PureMVC ( http://puremvc.org/ ) and Mate ( http://mate.asfusion.com/ ) seem to be the most popular alternatives in terms of MVC frameworks for Flex. EasyMVC ( http://projects.simb.net/easyMVC ) is another one I've heard of. dnk wrote: On 18-Apr-09, at 10:07 PM, zuurl8 wrote: Flex is a lightweight framework. Do you need more then what Flex provides in interface, events, and modules? Well I think that I am talking about things more like code structure, methods of doing things, etc. There are obviously benefits from these other frameworks, otherwise people would not have written them. I do understand where you are coming from, but in my case, I am looking for something a little more than the Flex framework itself. d -- Jeffry Houser, Technical Entrepreneur Adobe Community Expert: http://tinyurl.com/684b5h http://www.twitter.com/reboog711 | Phone: 203-379-0773 -- Easy to use Interface Components for Flex Developers http://www.flextras.com?c=104 -- http://www.theflexshow.com http://www.jeffryhouser.com -- Part of the DotComIt Brain Trust
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Lightweight framework
On 18-Apr-09, at 10:07 PM, zuurl8 wrote: Flex is a lightweight framework. Do you need more then what Flex provides in interface, events, and modules? Well I think that I am talking about things more like code structure, methods of doing things, etc. There are obviously benefits from these other frameworks, otherwise people would not have written them. I do understand where you are coming from, but in my case, I am looking for something a little more than the Flex framework itself. d
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Lightweight framework
Flex is a UI framework; I'd hardly consider it the answer to every one of your programming needs. I suspect that the original poster was looking for MVC alternatives. PureMVC ( http://puremvc.org/ ) and Mate ( http://mate.asfusion.com/ ) seem to be the most popular alternatives in terms of MVC frameworks for Flex. EasyMVC ( http://projects.simb.net/easyMVC ) is another one I've heard of. dnk wrote: On 18-Apr-09, at 10:07 PM, zuurl8 wrote: Flex is a lightweight framework. Do you need more then what Flex provides in interface, events, and modules? Well I think that I am talking about things more like code structure, methods of doing things, etc. There are obviously benefits from these other frameworks, otherwise people would not have written them. I do understand where you are coming from, but in my case, I am looking for something a little more than the Flex framework itself. d -- Jeffry Houser, Technical Entrepreneur Adobe Community Expert: http://tinyurl.com/684b5h http://www.twitter.com/reboog711 | Phone: 203-379-0773 -- Easy to use Interface Components for Flex Developers http://www.flextras.com?c=104 -- http://www.theflexshow.com http://www.jeffryhouser.com -- Part of the DotComIt Brain Trust
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Lightweight framework
I'd consider those still being on the heavy side. One we use is called Nimbus and can be found here: http://code.google.com/p/nimbus-as3/ Don't use the available swc since it hasn't been updated in a while. Nimbus is similar to Cairngorm but lighter and cuts out a lot of the plumbing. It also adds undo/redo history and handling of complex macro commands. For example, a parallel command runs a bunch of commands in parallel and a sequence command runs a bunch of commands in sequence. You can also have a parallel command inside of a sequence command inside of a sequence command, for example. The ASDoc inside the code is pretty thorough but there isn't additional documentation yet since the codebase has just reached a fairly stable state. I'm not saying it's for everyone, but you might want to give it a shot. Aaron Jeffry Houser wrote: Flex is a UI framework; I'd hardly consider it the answer to every one of your programming needs. I suspect that the original poster was looking for MVC alternatives. PureMVC ( http://puremvc.org/ ) and Mate ( http://mate.asfusion.com/ ) seem to be the most popular alternatives in terms of MVC frameworks for Flex. EasyMVC ( http://projects.simb.net/easyMVC ) is another one I've heard of. dnk wrote: On 18-Apr-09, at 10:07 PM, zuurl8 wrote: Flex is a lightweight framework. Do you need more then what Flex provides in interface, events, and modules? Well I think that I am talking about things more like code structure, methods of doing things, etc. There are obviously benefits from these other frameworks, otherwise people would not have written them. I do understand where you are coming from, but in my case, I am looking for something a little more than the Flex framework itself. d -- Jeffry Houser, Technical Entrepreneur Adobe Community Expert: http://tinyurl.com/684b5h http://www.twitter.com/reboog711 | Phone: 203-379-0773 -- Easy to use Interface Components for Flex Developers http://www.flextras.com?c=104 -- http://www.theflexshow.com http://www.jeffryhouser.com -- Part of the DotComIt Brain Trust
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Lightweight framework
Which swc to use then ? If one was to try it out.
On 19-Apr-09, at 9:11 AM, Aaron Hardy aaronius...@gmail.com wrote:
I'd consider those still being on the heavy side. One we use is called
Nimbus and can be found here:
http://code.google.com/p/nimbus-as3/
Don't use the available swc since it hasn't been updated in a while.
Nimbus is similar to Cairngorm but lighter and cuts out a lot of the
plumbing. It also adds undo/redo history and handling of complex
macro commands. For example, a parallel command runs a bunch of
commands in parallel and a sequence command runs a bunch of commands
in
sequence. You can also have a parallel command inside of a sequence
command inside of a sequence command, for example. The ASDoc inside
the
code is pretty thorough but there isn't additional documentation yet
since the codebase has just reached a fairly stable state. I'm not
saying it's for everyone, but you might want to give it a shot.
Aaron
Jeffry Houser wrote:
Flex is a UI framework; I'd hardly consider it the answer to every
one of your programming needs. I suspect that the original poster
was
looking for MVC alternatives.
PureMVC ( http://puremvc.org/ ) and Mate ( http://mate.asfusion.com/
) seem to be the most popular alternatives in terms of MVC
frameworks
for Flex.
EasyMVC ( http://projects.simb.net/easyMVC ) is another one I've
heard of.
dnk wrote:
On 18-Apr-09, at 10:07 PM, zuurl8 wrote:
Flex is a lightweight framework. Do you need more then what Flex
provides in interface, events, and modules?
Well I think that I am talking about things more like code
structure,
methods of doing things, etc. There are obviously benefits from
these
other frameworks, otherwise people would not have written them.
I do understand where you are coming from, but in my case, I am
looking for something a little more than the Flex framework itself.
d
--
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Adobe Community Expert: http://tinyurl.com/684b5h
http://www.twitter.com/reboog711 | Phone: 203-379-0773
--
Easy to use Interface Components for Flex Developers
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[flexcoders] Re: Lightweight framework
I would not assume that just because it exists that it is necessary. Preference is everything and the term overkill exists for a reason. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, dnk d.k.emailli...@... wrote: On 18-Apr-09, at 10:07 PM, zuurl8 wrote: Flex is a lightweight framework. Do you need more then what Flex provides in interface, events, and modules? Well I think that I am talking about things more like code structure, methods of doing things, etc. There are obviously benefits from these other frameworks, otherwise people would not have written them. I do understand where you are coming from, but in my case, I am looking for something a little more than the Flex framework itself. d
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Lightweight framework
You can download the source a build a new swc. By the way, I got your
email to my personal address. Unfortunately there currently aren't any
public project samples using Nimbus. They'll come as time and priority
permit. Good luck!
Aaron
Dnk wrote:
Which swc to use then ? If one was to try it out.
On 19-Apr-09, at 9:11 AM, Aaron Hardy aaronius...@gmail.com
mailto:aaronius...@gmail.com wrote:
I'd consider those still being on the heavy side. One we use is called
Nimbus and can be found here:
http://code.google.com/ http://google.com/p/nimbus-as3/
Don't use the available swc since it hasn't been updated in a while.
Nimbus is similar to Cairngorm but lighter and cuts out a lot of the
plumbing. It also adds undo/redo history and handling of complex
macro commands. For example, a parallel command runs a bunch of
commands in parallel and a sequence command runs a bunch of commands in
sequence. You can also have a parallel command inside of a sequence
command inside of a sequence command, for example. The ASDoc inside the
code is pretty thorough but there isn't additional documentation yet
since the codebase has just reached a fairly stable state. I'm not
saying it's for everyone, but you might want to give it a shot.
Aaron
Jeffry Houser wrote:
Flex is a UI framework; I'd hardly consider it the answer to every
one of your programming needs. I suspect that the original poster was
looking for MVC alternatives.
PureMVC ( http://puremvc.org/ ) and Mate ( http://mate.asfusion.com/
) seem to be the most popular alternatives in terms of MVC frameworks
for Flex.
EasyMVC ( http://projects.simb.net/ http://simb.net/easyMVC ) is
another one I've
heard of.
dnk wrote:
On 18-Apr-09, at 10:07 PM, zuurl8 wrote:
Flex is a lightweight framework. Do you need more then what Flex
provides in interface, events, and modules?
Well I think that I am talking about things more like code structure,
methods of doing things, etc. There are obviously benefits from these
other frameworks, otherwise people would not have written them.
I do understand where you are coming from, but in my case, I am
looking for something a little more than the Flex framework itself.
d
--
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Adobe Community Expert: http://tinyurl.com/684b5h
http://www.twitter.com/reboog711 | Phone: 203-379-0773
--
Easy to use Interface Components for Flex Developers
http://www.flextras.com?c=104
--
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http://www.jeffryhouser.com
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[flexcoders] Re: Lightweight framework
Flex is a lightweight framework. Do you need more then what Flex provides in interface, events, and modules? --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Dnk d.k.emailli...@... wrote: Go there, I know there have been a billion topics regarding frameworks on here. I have been using cairngorm for a while and do like it. Now after doing a few projects, I have come to the realization that pretty much all projects I do are small - med with remoting. Cairngorm when looking back at it, seems like overkill with a lot of code (for projects my size- just hobby and personal projects). I like the code structure of frameworks and the advantages they offer, but I just want to simplify a bit. But I am curious if anyone can recommend a light weight framework? D
