[flexcoders] Re: Looks Like Flex 2.0 Beta 2 is Releasing soon

2006-03-21 Thread John Farrar
You could also request that your government change it's rules to 
make such a thing possible! Like was said, they are open to the 
idea... but do you honestly expect the EU to change policy because 
of Adobe's expressing a desire to run a contest? I wish you could be 
included also... but it's not Adobe who you need to look to for a 
solution. You need to change the mind of the EU.

John

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, João Fernandes 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 That's what I was hopping for,
 
 For centuries that this kind of contests are only available for a 
restricted number of users ;)  Since there is a problem doing an 
universal contest why not do it separately ?
 
 João Fernandes
 Dep. Informática - Área de Desenvolvimento
 Cofina media
 
 Avenida João Crisóstomo, Nº 72 . 1069-043 Lisboa PORTUGAL
 Tel (+351) 213 185 200 . Fax (+351) 213 540 370
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RE: [flexcoders] Re: Looks Like Flex 2.0 Beta 2 is Releasing soon

2006-03-21 Thread Jason Hawryluk






Sorry to be harsh, but 
if that is a typical Adobe response to a simple user request then we are in big 
trouble... You are the ones selling the product in the EU, we are the clients. 
To take a request from a motivated user, and promptly turned it into a political 
excuse.

That kind of attitude 
gives me the hives, and is not something I would expect from Macromedia or 
Adobe. A simple sorry we can't do it, resources internally won't allow it, or 
something else more respective of the request.

To hand off a request 
and blame it on the EU is just the kind of horse pucky that really irritates 
me.

Shame!!
If 
you don’t work for Adobe you have absolutely no place giving a response to that 
particular question. Do not; push your personnel political views here. I for one 
don’t want to see it.

jason

  -Message d'origine-De: 
  flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]De la part 
  de John FarrarEnvoyé: mardi 21 mars 2006 
  15:31À: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comObjet: 
  [flexcoders] Re: Looks Like Flex 2.0 Beta 2 is Releasing 
  soonYou could also request that your government 
  change it's rules to make such a thing possible! Like was said, they are 
  open to the idea... but do you honestly expect the EU to change policy 
  because of Adobe's expressing a desire to run a contest? I wish you could 
  be included also... but it's not Adobe who you need to look to for a 
  solution. You need to change the mind of the EU.John--- In 
  flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, João Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote: That's what I was hopping for,  For 
  centuries that this kind of contests are only available for a restricted 
  number of users ;) Since there is a problem doing an universal 
  contest why not do it separately ?  João Fernandes 
  Dep. Informática - Área de Desenvolvimento Cofina media 
   Avenida João Crisóstomo, Nº 72 . 1069-043 Lisboa PORTUGAL Tel 
  (+351) 213 185 200 . Fax (+351) 213 540 370 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   
  





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RE: [flexcoders] Re: Looks Like Flex 2.0 Beta 2 is Releasing soon

2006-03-21 Thread Nick Weekes





dude, you need to calm down a little. 


this is a newsgroup, everyone is entitled to answer 
questions.

see? im doing it now.


From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason 
HawrylukSent: 21 March 2006 14:51To: 
flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] Re: Looks Like 
Flex 2.0 Beta 2 is Releasing soon


Sorry to be harsh, but 
if that is a typical Adobe response to a simple user request then we are in big 
trouble... You are the ones selling the product in the EU, we are the clients. 
To take a request from a motivated user, and promptly turned it into a political 
excuse.

That kind of attitude 
gives me the hives, and is not something I would expect from Macromedia or 
Adobe. A simple sorry we can't do it, resources internally won't allow it, or 
something else more respective of the request.

To hand off a request 
and blame it on the EU is just the kind of horse pucky that really irritates 
me.

Shame!!
If 
you don’t work for Adobe you have absolutely no place giving a response to that 
particular question. Do not; push your personnel political views here. I for one 
don’t want to see it.

jason

  -Message d'origine-De: 
  flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]De la part 
  de John FarrarEnvoyé: mardi 21 mars 2006 
  15:31À: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comObjet: 
  [flexcoders] Re: Looks Like Flex 2.0 Beta 2 is Releasing 
  soonYou could also request that your government 
  change it's rules to make such a thing possible! Like was said, they are 
  open to the idea... but do you honestly expect the EU to change policy 
  because of Adobe's expressing a desire to run a contest? I wish you could 
  be included also... but it's not Adobe who you need to look to for a 
  solution. You need to change the mind of the EU.John--- In 
  flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, João Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote: That's what I was hopping for,  For 
  centuries that this kind of contests are only available for a restricted 
  number of users ;) Since there is a problem doing an universal 
  contest why not do it separately ?  João Fernandes 
  Dep. Informática - Área de Desenvolvimento Cofina media 
   Avenida João Crisóstomo, Nº 72 . 1069-043 Lisboa PORTUGAL Tel 
  (+351) 213 185 200 . Fax (+351) 213 540 370 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   
  





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RE: [flexcoders] Re: Looks Like Flex 2.0 Beta 2 is Releasing soon

2006-03-21 Thread Jason Hawryluk





I’m quite 
calm.

That was an answer 
??

"You need to change the 
mind of the EU."

The intention was not 
to be *too* harsh I apologize to you and everyone else. I just despise when a 
simple and well deserved question turns into, blame it on the EU. Like a couple 
of flex coders are going to get blood from a stone. The question for Adobe to 
bend to the EU rules was a fair one, and something that Adobe should think 
about. What is so wrong with Adobe holding a contest just for EU people. It 
would be so much simpler for Adobe to set one up here(they have offices here), 
then to expect that the entire EU government body is going to change a 
law.

Anyway, 
my apologies to John Farrar and everyone. 
I don't want any hard feelings.


Jason




  -Message d'origine-De: 
  flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]De la part 
  de Nick WeekesEnvoyé: mardi 21 mars 2006 
  16:01À: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comObjet: RE: 
  [flexcoders] Re: Looks Like Flex 2.0 Beta 2 is Releasing 
  soon
  dude, you need to calm down a 
  little. 
  
  this is a newsgroup, everyone is 
  entitled to answer questions.
  
  see? im doing it 
  now.
  
  
  From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason 
  HawrylukSent: 21 March 2006 14:51To: 
  flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] Re: Looks Like 
  Flex 2.0 Beta 2 is Releasing soon
  
  
  Sorry to be harsh, 
  but if that is a typical Adobe response to a simple user request then we are 
  in big trouble... You are the ones selling the product in the EU, we are the 
  clients. To take a request from a motivated user, and promptly turned it into 
  a political excuse.
  
  That kind of attitude 
  gives me the hives, and is not something I would expect from Macromedia or 
  Adobe. A simple sorry we can't do it, resources internally won't allow it, or 
  something else more respective of the request.
  
  To hand off a request 
  and blame it on the EU is just the kind of horse pucky that really irritates 
  me.
  
  Shame!!
  If 
  you don’t work for Adobe you have absolutely no place giving a response to 
  that particular question. Do not; push your personnel political views here. I 
  for one don’t want to see it.
  
  jason
  
-Message d'origine-De: 
flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]De la part 
de John FarrarEnvoyé: mardi 21 mars 2006 
15:31À: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comObjet: 
[flexcoders] Re: Looks Like Flex 2.0 Beta 2 is Releasing 
soonYou could also request that your government 
change it's rules to make such a thing possible! Like was said, they are 
open to the idea... but do you honestly expect the EU to change policy 
because of Adobe's expressing a desire to run a contest? I wish you 
could be included also... but it's not Adobe who you need to look to for 
a solution. You need to change the mind of the 
EU.John--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, João Fernandes 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's what I was 
hopping for,  For centuries that this kind of contests are 
only available for a restricted number of users ;) Since there is 
a problem doing an universal contest why not do it separately ? 
 João Fernandes Dep. Informática - Área de 
Desenvolvimento Cofina media  Avenida João 
Crisóstomo, Nº 72 . 1069-043 Lisboa PORTUGAL Tel (+351) 213 185 200 
. Fax (+351) 213 540 370 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  






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RE: [flexcoders] Re: Looks Like Flex 2.0 Beta 2 is Releasing soon

2006-03-21 Thread João Fernandes










My  post wasnt intended to start a US-Against everyone
war.


I just wanted once see everyone at the same level of opportunity. David Mendels
response is what Im used to get but never got a more detailed one. 

Is it really impossible to adapt to EU rules?  







João Fernandes
Dep. Informática - Área de Desenvolvimento
Cofina media

Avenida
João Crisóstomo, Nº 72 . 1069-043 Lisboa PORTUGAL
Tel
(+351) 213 185 200 . Fax (+351) 213 540 370
[EMAIL PROTECTED]













From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Jason Hawryluk
Sent: terça-feira, 21 de Março de 2006 14:51
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Re: Looks Like Flex 2.0 Beta 2 is Releasing
soon







Sorry to be harsh, but if that is a typical Adobe response to a
simple user request then we are in big trouble... You are the ones selling the
product in the EU, we are the clients. To take a request from a motivated user,
and promptly turned it into a political excuse.



That kind of attitude gives me the hives, and is not something I
would expect from Macromedia or Adobe. A simple sorry we can't do it, resources
internally won't allow it, or something else more respective of the request.



To hand off a request and blame it on the EU is just the kind of
horse pucky that really irritates me.



Shame!!



If you dont work for Adobe you have absolutely no place
giving a response to that particular question. Do not; push your personnel
political views here. I for one dont want to see it.











jason





-Message d'origine-
De: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]De
la part de John Farrar
Envoyé: mardi 21 mars 2006 15:31
À: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Objet: [flexcoders] Re: Looks Like Flex 2.0 Beta 2 is Releasing
soon

You could also request that your government change it's rules to 
make such a thing possible! Like was said, they are open to the 
idea... but do you honestly expect the EU to change policy because 
of Adobe's expressing a desire to run a contest? I wish you could be 
included also... but it's not Adobe who you need to look to for a 
solution. You need to change the mind of the EU.

John

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, João Fernandes 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 That's what I was hopping for,
 
 For centuries that this kind of contests are only available for a 
restricted number of users ;) Since there is a problem doing an 
universal contest why not do it separately ?
 
 João Fernandes
 Dep. Informática - Área de Desenvolvimento
 Cofina media
 
 Avenida João Crisóstomo, Nº 72 . 1069-043 Lisboa PORTUGAL
 Tel (+351) 213 185 200 . Fax (+351) 213 540 370
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Re: [flexcoders] Re: Looks Like Flex 2.0 Beta 2 is Releasing soon

2006-03-21 Thread Michael Schmalle



 My post wasn't intended to start a US-Against everyone
war.

Yeah, we allready have one of those, definitly DO NOT need any more! :)

Peace, Mike
On 3/21/06, João Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
















My post wasn't intended to start a US-Against everyone
war.


I just wanted once see everyone at the same level of opportunity. David Mendels
response is what I'm used to get but never got a more detailed one. 

Is it really impossible to adapt to EU rules? 







João Fernandes

Dep. Informática - Área de Desenvolvimento

Cofina media

Avenida
João Crisóstomo, Nº 72 . 1069-043 Lisboa PORTUGAL
Tel
(+351) 213 185 200 . Fax (+351) 213 540 370

[EMAIL PROTECTED]













From: 
flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Jason Hawryluk
Sent: terça-feira, 21 de Março de 2006 14:51
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Re: Looks Like Flex 2.0 Beta 2 is Releasing
soon







Sorry to be harsh, but if that is a typical Adobe response to a
simple user request then we are in big trouble... You are the ones selling the
product in the EU, we are the clients. To take a request from a motivated user,
and promptly turned it into a political excuse.



That kind of attitude gives me the hives, and is not something I
would expect from Macromedia or Adobe. A simple sorry we can't do it, resources
internally won't allow it, or something else more respective of the request.



To hand off a request and blame it on the EU is just the kind of
horse pucky that really irritates me.



Shame!!



If you don't work for Adobe you have absolutely no place
giving a response to that particular question. Do not; push your personnel
political views here. I for one don't want to see it.











jason





-Message d'origine-
De: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
flexcoders@yahoogroups.com]De
la part de John Farrar
Envoyé: mardi 21 mars 2006 15:31
À: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Objet: [flexcoders] Re: Looks Like Flex 2.0 Beta 2 is Releasing
soon

You could also request that your government change it's rules to 
make such a thing possible! Like was said, they are open to the 
idea... but do you honestly expect the EU to change policy because 
of Adobe's expressing a desire to run a contest? I wish you could be 
included also... but it's not Adobe who you need to look to for a 
solution. You need to change the mind of the EU.

John

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
, João Fernandes 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 That's what I was hopping for,
 
 For centuries that this kind of contests are only available for a 
restricted number of users ;) Since there is a problem doing an 
universal contest why not do it separately ?
 
 João Fernandes
 Dep. Informática - Área de Desenvolvimento
 Cofina media
 
 Avenida João Crisóstomo, Nº 72 . 1069-043 Lisboa PORTUGAL
 Tel (+351) 213 185 200 . Fax (+351) 213 540 370
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[flexcoders] Re: Looks Like Flex 2.0 Beta 2 is Releasing soon

2006-03-21 Thread Ryan Pieszak
Is it a safe assumption to say that all aspects of Beta 2 should be 
reinstalled?  In other words, they did more than just change the 
names (FES2 - FDS2, FCC2 - FC2, FF2 - FSDK2) of these things 
right?  We should start going through the uninstall/reinstall process 
for all of these?


--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Jason Hawryluk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm quite calm.
  
 That was an answer ??
  
 You need to change the mind of the EU.
  
 The intention was not to be *too* harsh I apologize to you and 
everyone
 else. I just despise when a simple and well deserved question turns 
into,
 blame it on the EU. Like a couple of flex coders are going to get 
blood from
 a stone. The question for Adobe to bend to the EU rules was a fair 
one, and
 something that Adobe should think about. What is so wrong with 
Adobe holding
 a contest just for EU people. It would be so much simpler for Adobe 
to set
 one up here(they have offices here), then to expect that the entire 
EU
 government body is going to change a law.
 
 
 
 Anyway, my apologies to John Farrar and everyone. I don't want any 
hard
 feelings.
 
 
 
 Jason
 
 
 
   -Message d'origine-
   De : flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] la
 part de Nick Weekes
   Envoyé : mardi 21 mars 2006 16:01
   À : flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
   Objet : RE: [flexcoders] Re: Looks Like Flex 2.0 Beta 2 is 
Releasing soon
 
 
   dude, you need to calm down a little.
 
   this is a newsgroup, everyone is entitled to answer questions.
 
   see?  im doing it now.
 
 
 
 

 --
   From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Jason Hawryluk
   Sent: 21 March 2006 14:51
   To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Re: Looks Like Flex 2.0 Beta 2 is 
Releasing soon
 
 
   Sorry to be harsh, but if that is a typical Adobe response to a 
simple
 user request then we are in big trouble... You are the ones selling 
the
 product in the EU, we are the clients. To take a request from a 
motivated
 user, and promptly turned it into a political excuse.
 
 
 
   That kind of attitude gives me the hives, and is not something I 
would
 expect from Macromedia or Adobe. A simple sorry we can't do it, 
resources
 internally won't allow it, or something else more respective of the 
request.
 
 
 
   To hand off a request and blame it on the EU is just the kind of 
horse
 pucky that really irritates me.
 
 
 
   Shame!!
 
 
 
   If you don't work for Adobe you have absolutely no place giving a 
response
 to that particular question. Do not; push your personnel political 
views
 here. I for one don't want to see it.
 
   jason
 -Message d'origine-
 De : flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] la
 part de John Farrar
 Envoyé : mardi 21 mars 2006 15:31
 À : flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
 Objet : [flexcoders] Re: Looks Like Flex 2.0 Beta 2 is 
Releasing soon
 
 
 You could also request that your government change it's rules to
 make such a thing possible! Like was said, they are open to the
 idea... but do you honestly expect the EU to change policy 
because
 of Adobe's expressing a desire to run a contest? I wish you 
could be
 included also... but it's not Adobe who you need to look to for 
a
 solution. You need to change the mind of the EU.
 
 John
 
 --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, João Fernandes
 joaofernandes@ wrote:
 
  That's what I was hopping for,
 
  For centuries that this kind of contests are only available 
for a
 restricted number of users ;)  Since there is a problem doing an
 universal contest why not do it separately ?
 
  João Fernandes
  Dep. Informática - Área de Desenvolvimento
  Cofina media
 
  Avenida João Crisóstomo, Nº 72 . 1069-043 Lisboa PORTUGAL
  Tel (+351) 213 185 200 . Fax (+351) 213 540 370
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