[flexcoders] Re: OMFG, i am about to go crazy - SOLVED - uh I think

2007-05-15 Thread mark_j_ellul
Hi Patrick,

I understand your frustration.

However I am quite interested in the solution? Was a flash player
upgrade enough to solve the issue? Was there any other potential work
around?

What was the code exactly that was not working? 

I am sure pretty much all the developers on this list would like to be
aware of any browser incompatibilities.

Thanks and Keep your head up... 

Mark

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, {reduxdj} [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Tracy:
 
 We did, however, it never fails, one of our developers had Flashplayer 
 9.016 with IE7 (which seemed to be the issue).  I personally
 am resisting ie7 indefinitely Especially since you can't run both 
 ie6 and 7 on one computer.
 
 I got a little worked up today, but doesn't this stuff drive developers 
 crazy?  Lately, all my time is spent figuring out why embedding
 flash in ie7 fails to give me back a non-defined id error in ie  and 
 other cross browser compatibility issues of the sort.  My hack was
 actually embedding a swf on the page in another place with a a
duplicate 
 id to fool the browser.  But my point is...we shouldn't have to do that 
 - that
 takes us away from actually getting things done quickly.   I mean,
flash 
 development is already complex enough and for dynamic pages
 like the ones that I am making it's a real magic trick.  Does anyone 
 have any suggestions or advice?  I am a little lower on the developer  
 food chain than a lot of people on this list.
 
 Unfortunately, for me, we don't develop from flex/flash 100% top
down... 
 I basically do AS3 for flash and flex and deploy in a page with a
lot of 
 html... So, having components that talk to the page is essential.  I 
 wish firefox had a better adoption rate because it's so much easier to 
 develop in because it just works and with plug-ins like firebug and web 
 developer and  flash tracer... it's a joy to use as my main browser.  
 Why can't the general public be convinced of  better 'free'
alternatives 
 that work better than the one that comes with their computer.  The 
 firefox adoption rate is analagous to the same amount of people who buy 
 a new car and stick with the same stock shitty radio that came with it 
 which is like 80%.
 
 Thanks for reading this far,
 Patrick
 redux.me.com
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 Tracy Spratt wrote:
 
  Unless you can specify the browser environment, you should include IE 
  in your development and testing.
 
  Tracy
 
   
 
 

 
  *From:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  *On Behalf Of *patricklemiuex
  *Sent:* Monday, May 14, 2007 3:59 PM
  *To:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
  *Subject:* [flexcoders] OMFG, i am about to go crazy
 
   
 
  So, I just launched this slide show today... And, I don't use the
  f*king crappy IE7. And one of the other developers is asking me why
  my buttons don't work... button clicks events seem to navigate the
  user to a url??
 
  I am so frustrated because this makes me look like I am some kind of
  shitty developer.
 
  What the hell to do? I think adobe should sue Microshit!
 
 





Re: [flexcoders] Re: OMFG, i am about to go crazy - SOLVED - uh I think

2007-05-15 Thread {reduxdj}
Mark

The issue seem to be related to IE7 and 9.016 of flashplayer.  This did 
make the issue a lot less apparent.

However,  to see the issue, you have to take a moment to visit a page 
and see for yourself.

me.com/patrickdj
you'll see a slideshow about 1 quarter the way down on the left
hover of the me.com logo
click on get the code
click on ok (this will erase and set your system clipboard)
Repeat the above - 1 out of 10 attempts or so, the 'OK' does not seem to 
receive a click event?

Ever heard of something this strange?

Thanks,
Patrick


mark_j_ellul wrote:

 Hi Patrick,

 I understand your frustration.

 However I am quite interested in the solution? Was a flash player
 upgrade enough to solve the issue? Was there any other potential work
 around?

 What was the code exactly that was not working?

 I am sure pretty much all the developers on this list would like to be
 aware of any browser incompatibilities.

 Thanks and Keep your head up...

 Mark

 --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
 mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com, {reduxdj} [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Tracy:
 
  We did, however, it never fails, one of our developers had Flashplayer
  9.016 with IE7 (which seemed to be the issue). I personally
  am resisting ie7 indefinitely Especially since you can't run both
  ie6 and 7 on one computer.
 
  I got a little worked up today, but doesn't this stuff drive developers
  crazy? Lately, all my time is spent figuring out why embedding
  flash in ie7 fails to give me back a non-defined id error in ie and
  other cross browser compatibility issues of the sort. My hack was
  actually embedding a swf on the page in another place with a a
 duplicate
  id to fool the browser. But my point is...we shouldn't have to do that
  - that
  takes us away from actually getting things done quickly. I mean,
 flash
  development is already complex enough and for dynamic pages
  like the ones that I am making it's a real magic trick. Does anyone
  have any suggestions or advice? I am a little lower on the developer
  food chain than a lot of people on this list.
 
  Unfortunately, for me, we don't develop from flex/flash 100% top
 down...
  I basically do AS3 for flash and flex and deploy in a page with a
 lot of
  html... So, having components that talk to the page is essential. I
  wish firefox had a better adoption rate because it's so much easier to
  develop in because it just works and with plug-ins like firebug and web
  developer and flash tracer... it's a joy to use as my main browser.
  Why can't the general public be convinced of better 'free'
 alternatives
  that work better than the one that comes with their computer. The
  firefox adoption rate is analagous to the same amount of people who buy
  a new car and stick with the same stock shitty radio that came with it
  which is like 80%.
 
  Thanks for reading this far,
  Patrick
  redux.me.com
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Tracy Spratt wrote:
  
   Unless you can specify the browser environment, you should include IE
   in your development and testing.
  
   Tracy
  
  
  
  
 --
  
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 mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com
 [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com]
   *On Behalf Of *patricklemiuex
   *Sent:* Monday, May 14, 2007 3:59 PM
   *To:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com
   *Subject:* [flexcoders] OMFG, i am about to go crazy
  
  
  
   So, I just launched this slide show today... And, I don't use the
   f*king crappy IE7. And one of the other developers is asking me why
   my buttons don't work... button clicks events seem to navigate the
   user to a url??
  
   I am so frustrated because this makes me look like I am some kind of
   shitty developer.
  
   What the hell to do? I think adobe should sue Microshit!
  
  
 

  




[flexcoders] Re: OMFG, i am about to go crazy - SOLVED - uh I think

2007-05-15 Thread mark_j_ellul
Hey Patrick,

Nice site... 

I found the ok button did not always work, funnily enough when I
clicked left of the words ok... 

I have flash version 9.0.28 in my IE.

Have you be able to recreate the error when debugging?

I don't know off hand how to get the debugging going in I.E. flex
builder always loads up Firefox for me.

Basically, I was thinking that if you put  trace () commands in your
button event handler or even try and debug it might help you find what
the issue is.

If you wanted to post the code I would be happy to give it a quick
look over... I am not expert by far... 

Mark

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, {reduxdj} [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Mark
 
 The issue seem to be related to IE7 and 9.016 of flashplayer.  This did 
 make the issue a lot less apparent.
 
 However,  to see the issue, you have to take a moment to visit a page 
 and see for yourself.
 
 me.com/patrickdj
 you'll see a slideshow about 1 quarter the way down on the left
 hover of the me.com logo
 click on get the code
 click on ok (this will erase and set your system clipboard)
 Repeat the above - 1 out of 10 attempts or so, the 'OK' does not
seem to 
 receive a click event?
 
 Ever heard of something this strange?
 
 Thanks,
 Patrick
 
 
 mark_j_ellul wrote:
 
  Hi Patrick,
 
  I understand your frustration.
 
  However I am quite interested in the solution? Was a flash player
  upgrade enough to solve the issue? Was there any other potential work
  around?
 
  What was the code exactly that was not working?
 
  I am sure pretty much all the developers on this list would like to be
  aware of any browser incompatibilities.
 
  Thanks and Keep your head up...
 
  Mark
 
  --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
  mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com, {reduxdj} dj@ wrote:
  
   Tracy:
  
   We did, however, it never fails, one of our developers had
Flashplayer
   9.016 with IE7 (which seemed to be the issue). I personally
   am resisting ie7 indefinitely Especially since you can't run
both
   ie6 and 7 on one computer.
  
   I got a little worked up today, but doesn't this stuff drive
developers
   crazy? Lately, all my time is spent figuring out why embedding
   flash in ie7 fails to give me back a non-defined id error in
ie and
   other cross browser compatibility issues of the sort. My hack was
   actually embedding a swf on the page in another place with a a
  duplicate
   id to fool the browser. But my point is...we shouldn't have to
do that
   - that
   takes us away from actually getting things done quickly. I mean,
  flash
   development is already complex enough and for dynamic pages
   like the ones that I am making it's a real magic trick. Does anyone
   have any suggestions or advice? I am a little lower on the developer
   food chain than a lot of people on this list.
  
   Unfortunately, for me, we don't develop from flex/flash 100% top
  down...
   I basically do AS3 for flash and flex and deploy in a page with a
  lot of
   html... So, having components that talk to the page is essential. I
   wish firefox had a better adoption rate because it's so much
easier to
   develop in because it just works and with plug-ins like firebug
and web
   developer and flash tracer... it's a joy to use as my main browser.
   Why can't the general public be convinced of better 'free'
  alternatives
   that work better than the one that comes with their computer. The
   firefox adoption rate is analagous to the same amount of people
who buy
   a new car and stick with the same stock shitty radio that came
with it
   which is like 80%.
  
   Thanks for reading this far,
   Patrick
   redux.me.com
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
   Tracy Spratt wrote:
   
Unless you can specify the browser environment, you should
include IE
in your development and testing.
   
Tracy
   
   
   
   
  --
   
*From:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
  mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com
  [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com]
*On Behalf Of *patricklemiuex
*Sent:* Monday, May 14, 2007 3:59 PM
*To:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com
*Subject:* [flexcoders] OMFG, i am about to go crazy
   
   
   
So, I just launched this slide show today... And, I don't use the
f*king crappy IE7. And one of the other developers is asking
me why
my buttons don't work... button clicks events seem to navigate the
user to a url??
   
I am so frustrated because this makes me look like I am some
kind of
shitty developer.
   
What the hell to do? I think adobe should sue Microshit!
   
   
  
 
 





[flexcoders] Re: OMFG, i am about to go crazy - SOLVED - uh I think

2007-05-15 Thread arieljake
Maybe the javascript when incorporated into a busy page needs to be 
executed inside of a when document is ready function. Jquery, and 
other toolkits, have one liners to handle this.

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, {reduxdj} [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Tom:
 
 I do use Adobe's flash detection.  I wasn't using the var 
minVersion so, 
 that's my bad.  Actually, I have issues with swfObject and logging 
 people out of our php session so i never use it. 
 
 Adobe's solution is good, except it's very exacting, the way it's 
 implemented on a page.  For instance, don't try to use Adobe's 
detection 
 kit in one long set of js code in the middle of the page... It 
doesn't 
 seem to work that way for IE.  Also, I even tried to have php echo 
 javascript, which I thought was excellent but did not work around 
the 
 click to activate garbage.  
 
 The issue for this situation is that there's a bunch of php files 
and I 
 am inserting flash into one part of a page, in this case I couldn't 
edit 
 the file with the head tag because there's several pages that had 
 different head tags that my or may not include the script with my 
flash 
 embed tag.   I assume for flash detection to be perfect from adobe, 
you 
 need  to include the AC_OETag.js file in the head.  Alternatively, 
I had 
 just just before the flash and that was my issue.  I am not sure 
why of 
 the reason for this?  Maybe someone can shed some light on this 
topic as 
 I am not Mr. Javascript
 
 Thanks,
 Patrick
 
 
 
 
 Tom Chiverton wrote:
  On Tuesday 15 May 2007, {reduxdj} wrote:

  I got a little worked up today, but doesn't this stuff drive 
developers
  crazy?  Lately, all my time is spent figuring out why embedding
  flash in ie7 fails to give me back a non-defined id error in 
ie  and
  other cross browser compatibility issues of the sort.  My hack 
was
  
 
  Is something wrong with the Adobe Flash Detection Kit / 
SWFObject ?