[flexcoders] What is a fair price - Opinions Please.

2009-03-26 Thread Wally Kolcz
I have been asked to make an AIR application that is a 100 question quizzer. 
Wants it done by next Tuesday. Simple quizzer that compares the answer to what 
the person entered then adds either a 1 or 0 to a running total. Client would 
like to know a price on it, but I never developed a Flex/AIR app for a client 
before, only for work. What is a fair price either for the project or per hour 
to keep it honest? Opinions Please.



Re: [flexcoders] What is a fair price - Opinions Please.

2009-03-26 Thread Alan Rother
Fair is a complicated subject.
When figuring out what you should charge for something you should look at a
number of factors:


   - What is your time worth to you?
  - This can be measured by any number of personal measuring sticks. How
  much free time do you generally have available, how interesting does this
  project look to you, do you think you can re-use this code for anything
  ever, will you achieve some level of personal / professional satisfaction
  from it.
  - Personally, if I don't have a lot of extra free time, or if the
  project looks to be a pain, I charge considerably more. If that kills the
  project, so be it, if not, WOOHOO!
   - As for calculating an actual billable rate, one way to figure out what
   your professional time is worth is to take your annual salary at work,
   divide it by 2000 and that very roughly what you make an hour. I typically
   double it to cover taxes and then charge that. So for example you earn
   $50,000 a year at your main job, you basically earn $25 an hour, So a good
   starting point for charging for your time is $50 an hour. Using the How
   much do I like this project scale, you can then adjust that rate
   accordingly. If the project is going to be a pain, bump it up, if it's going
   to be fun maybe lower it.
   - What can the person afford to pay?
  - This is one of the hardest parts of any job, you may come up with
  what is a reasonable amount to do the job, but the client may
choke. Great
  sales people have a sixth sense for the threshold a client has for a job
  ($$$). With one off freelance jobs it can be hard to guess what
a person has
  available to spend. I've been offered projects where the client wants to
  build a competitor to eBay and has about $500 to spend...
  - Depending on your relationship with this client, you might just want
  to ask what they have available to spend on the project upfront. Then go
  back and determine if it's enough for you to get it done.

HTH

=]

-- 
Alan Rother
Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX 7 Developer
Manager, Phoenix Cold Fusion User Group, AZCFUG.org


Re: [flexcoders] What is a fair price - Opinions Please.

2009-03-26 Thread Wesley Acheson
This all seems reasonable.  Its more or less the metric I would use too. It
will probably sound daunting to a private client though.  If you want to
break into doing this on a regular basis.  You might want to charge
considerably less especially as you said it was your first private work.

Its in your own intrest to provide value for money untill you have a decient
client base.  This depends on how likely prospective clients are to talk to
each other.

Regards,

Wes

On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 4:53 PM, Alan Rother alan.rot...@gmail.com wrote:

  Fair is a complicated subject.
 When figuring out what you should charge for something you should look at a
 number of factors:


- What is your time worth to you?
   - This can be measured by any number of personal measuring sticks.
   How much free time do you generally have available, how interesting does
   this project look to you, do you think you can re-use this code for 
 anything
   ever, will you achieve some level of personal / professional 
 satisfaction
   from it.
   - Personally, if I don't have a lot of extra free time, or if the
   project looks to be a pain, I charge considerably more. If that kills 
 the
   project, so be it, if not, WOOHOO!
- As for calculating an actual billable rate, one way to figure out
what your professional time is worth is to take your annual salary at work,
divide it by 2000 and that very roughly what you make an hour. I typically
double it to cover taxes and then charge that. So for example you earn
$50,000 a year at your main job, you basically earn $25 an hour, So a good
starting point for charging for your time is $50 an hour. Using the How
much do I like this project scale, you can then adjust that rate
accordingly. If the project is going to be a pain, bump it up, if it's 
 going
to be fun maybe lower it.
- What can the person afford to pay?
   - This is one of the hardest parts of any job, you may come up with
   what is a reasonable amount to do the job, but the client may choke. 
 Great
   sales people have a sixth sense for the threshold a client has for a job
   ($$$). With one off freelance jobs it can be hard to guess what a 
 person has
   available to spend. I've been offered projects where the client wants to
   build a competitor to eBay and has about $500 to spend...
   - Depending on your relationship with this client, you might just
   want to ask what they have available to spend on the project upfront. 
 Then
   go back and determine if it's enough for you to get it done.

 HTH

 =]

 --
 Alan Rother
 Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX 7 Developer
 Manager, Phoenix Cold Fusion User Group, AZCFUG.org