RE: [flexcoders] Flex to HTML5 Conversion tool?
One of my co-workers has been spending the last ? years on a project that uses his standard xml syntax to define a UI and then plans to generate HTML or Swing, etc from that. It is his intent to define a UI library independent layout tool. I question if it's worth the effort. I like the clean lines of Python code and I would probably use some of the meta language and introspection features to allow me to define my HTML using object technology and then have each object have a "self.toXML()" method that would do the right thing and call all children recursively. From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Doug McCune Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 4:48 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex to HTML5 Conversion tool? Just to throw in my two cents... I would not hold out any hope for any solution that will magically convert your Flex app to a HTML/JS app. Not in 6 months, not in 6 years. I don't want to be a downer, but I just don't see it happening. Sure, we may see some tech demos that work on super simple Flex apps, but I think that's about as far as you'll get. You also might get tools that let you write a new app in MXML/AS, specifically with targeting HTML/JS in mind, and that might work well. But I have almost no confidence that you will ever be able to take an existing, large Flex app and magically get it to run well as an HTML app. I'd of course love to be proven wrong. My advice is that if you really need to target HTML/JS is to build it new from scratch. It's a harsh reality, and you're going to hate a lot of the toolchain, language, and process, but if you really do have the requirement that you need to have an HTML/JS app, you might as well just rip off the band-aid in one go instead of holding out hope for a holy grail solution. On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 6:27 AM, Merrill, Jason wrote: Check out another possibility - using haXe for converting an MXML/Actionscript project to HTML5/Javascript. The syntax is extremely similar to Actionscript, so you could convert the MXML (via the option with the compiler to save the generated Actionscript from MXML) to haXe code, and the Actionscript too. Jason Merrill Instructional Technology Architect II Bank of America Global Learning ___ From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ganaraj p r Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 4:13 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex to HTML5 Conversion tool? If my understanding is right, Adobe is working on it currently. So you might have to wait for another 6 months or so. If that time frame is not suitable for you, I suggest you rewrite the project in HTML 5. On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 3:27 AM, Sells, Fred wrote: I am looking at the same problem. A very long time ago I designed a tool called ezX that was similar to Flex but not nearly as robust. That was an Xwindows tool and has since gone the way of the dinosaur. I'm still researching but I think a tool like pyjamas pyjs.org might be a building block. You could write an xml parser to handle the mxml to dom and then use the dom to generate pyjamas class definitions (which you would probably have to tweak by hand). I'm not sure about the action script. Source parsing is too tricky and I don't know if the byte code is easy to handle. Might be better to outsource that overseas. Let me know what you decide From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Venkat M Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 12:56 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Flex to HTML5 Conversion tool? Hi Group, I have a quick question. I have a web application that was developed using 100% flex (AS included). Now to be on the safe side we want to evaluate the options of converting the same on to HTML5. Do any one know of any tools that can help in the process of converting from flex (developed) to html5 version? Your help will be greatly appreciated. Cheers, Venkat. -- Regards, Ganaraj P R This message w/attachments (message) is intended solely for the use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or proprietary. If you are not an intended recipient, please notify the sender, and then please delete and destroy all copies and attachments, and be advised that any review or dissemination of, or the taking of any action in reliance on, the information contained in or attached to this message is prohibited. Unless specifically indicated, this message is not an offer to sell or a solicitation of any investment products or other financial product or service, an official confirmation of any transaction, or an official statement of
Re: [flexcoders] Flex to HTML5 Conversion tool?
There's another key issue - who wants to work with machine converted code? Sounds like a nightmare. John 2011/12/1 Doug McCune > ** > > > Just to throw in my two cents... I would not hold out any hope for any > solution that will magically convert your Flex app to a HTML/JS app. Not in > 6 months, not in 6 years. I don't want to be a downer, but I just don't see > it happening. Sure, we may see some tech demos that work on super simple > Flex apps, but I think that's about as far as you'll get. You also might > get tools that let you write a new app in MXML/AS, specifically with > targeting HTML/JS in mind, and that might work well. But I have almost no > confidence that you will ever be able to take an existing, large Flex app > and magically get it to run well as an HTML app. I'd of course love to be > proven wrong. > > My advice is that if you really need to target HTML/JS is to build it new > from scratch. It's a harsh reality, and you're going to hate a lot of the > toolchain, language, and process, but if you really do have the requirement > that you need to have an HTML/JS app, you might as well just rip off the > band-aid in one go instead of holding out hope for a holy grail solution. > > On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 6:27 AM, Merrill, Jason < > jason.merr...@bankofamerica.com> wrote: > >> ** >> >> >> Check out another possibility - using haXe for converting an >> MXML/Actionscript project to HTML5/Javascript. The syntax is extremely >> similar to Actionscript, so you could convert the MXML (via the option with >> the compiler to save the generated Actionscript from MXML) to haXe code, >> and the Actionscript too. >> >> ** ** >> >> Jason Merrill >> Instructional Technology Architect II** >> >> * Bank of America* Global Learning >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> ___ >> >> ** ** >> >> *From:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] *On >> Behalf Of *ganaraj p r >> *Sent:* Thursday, December 01, 2011 4:13 AM >> *To:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com >> *Subject:* Re: [flexcoders] Flex to HTML5 Conversion tool? >> >> ** ** >> >> >> >> If my understanding is right, Adobe is working on it currently. So you >> might have to wait for another 6 months or so. >> >> ** ** >> >> If that time frame is not suitable for you, I suggest you rewrite the >> project in HTML 5. >> >> On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 3:27 AM, Sells, Fred >> wrote: >> >> >> >> I am looking at the same problem. A very long time ago I designed a tool >> called ezX that was similar to Flex but not nearly as robust. That was an >> Xwindows tool and has since gone the way of the dinosaur. >> >> >> >> I’m still researching but I think a tool like pyjamas pyjs.org might be >> a building block. You could write an xml parser to handle the mxml to dom >> and then use the dom to generate pyjamas class definitions (which you would >> probably have to tweak by hand). >> >> >> >> I’m not sure about the action script. Source parsing is too tricky and I >> don’t know if the byte code is easy to handle. Might be better to >> outsource that overseas. >> >> >> >> Let me know what you decide >> >> >> >> *From:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] *On >> Behalf Of *Venkat M >> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 30, 2011 12:56 PM >> *To:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com >> *Subject:* [flexcoders] Flex to HTML5 Conversion tool? >> >> >> >> >> >> *Hi Group,* >> >> * * >> >> *I have a quick question.* >> >> *I have a web application that was developed using 100% flex (AS >> included).* >> >> *Now to be on the safe side we want to evaluate the options of >> converting the same on to HTML5. * >> >> * * >> >> *Do any one know of any tools that can help in the process of converting >> from flex (developed) to html5 version?* >> >> *Your help will be greatly appreciated.* >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> *Venkat.* >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ** ** >> >> -- >> Regards, >> Ganaraj P R
RE: [flexcoders] Flex to HTML5 Conversion tool?
Doug: Thanks for this post. Although the medicine is difficult to swallow. I am grateful that the doctor is outspoken. --Bill From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Doug McCune Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 4:48 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex to HTML5 Conversion tool? Just to throw in my two cents... I would not hold out any hope for any solution that will magically convert your Flex app to a HTML/JS app. Not in 6 months, not in 6 years. I don't want to be a downer, but I just don't see it happening. Sure, we may see some tech demos that work on super simple Flex apps, but I think that's about as far as you'll get. You also might get tools that let you write a new app in MXML/AS, specifically with targeting HTML/JS in mind, and that might work well. But I have almost no confidence that you will ever be able to take an existing, large Flex app and magically get it to run well as an HTML app. I'd of course love to be proven wrong. My advice is that if you really need to target HTML/JS is to build it new from scratch. It's a harsh reality, and you're going to hate a lot of the toolchain, language, and process, but if you really do have the requirement that you need to have an HTML/JS app, you might as well just rip off the band-aid in one go instead of holding out hope for a holy grail solution. On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 6:27 AM, Merrill, Jason wrote: Check out another possibility - using haXe for converting an MXML/Actionscript project to HTML5/Javascript. The syntax is extremely similar to Actionscript, so you could convert the MXML (via the option with the compiler to save the generated Actionscript from MXML) to haXe code, and the Actionscript too. Jason Merrill Instructional Technology Architect II Bank of America Global Learning ___ From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ganaraj p r Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 4:13 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex to HTML5 Conversion tool? If my understanding is right, Adobe is working on it currently. So you might have to wait for another 6 months or so. If that time frame is not suitable for you, I suggest you rewrite the project in HTML 5. On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 3:27 AM, Sells, Fred wrote: I am looking at the same problem. A very long time ago I designed a tool called ezX that was similar to Flex but not nearly as robust. That was an Xwindows tool and has since gone the way of the dinosaur. I'm still researching but I think a tool like pyjamas pyjs.org might be a building block. You could write an xml parser to handle the mxml to dom and then use the dom to generate pyjamas class definitions (which you would probably have to tweak by hand). I'm not sure about the action script. Source parsing is too tricky and I don't know if the byte code is easy to handle. Might be better to outsource that overseas. Let me know what you decide From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Venkat M Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 12:56 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Flex to HTML5 Conversion tool? Hi Group, I have a quick question. I have a web application that was developed using 100% flex (AS included). Now to be on the safe side we want to evaluate the options of converting the same on to HTML5. Do any one know of any tools that can help in the process of converting from flex (developed) to html5 version? Your help will be greatly appreciated. Cheers, Venkat. -- Regards, Ganaraj P R _ This message w/attachments (message) is intended solely for the use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or proprietary. If you are not an intended recipient, please notify the sender, and then please delete and destroy all copies and attachments, and be advised that any review or dissemination of, or the taking of any action in reliance on, the information contained in or attached to this message is prohibited. Unless specifically indicated, this message is not an offer to sell or a solicitation of any investment products or other financial product or service, an official confirmation of any transaction, or an official statement of Sender. Subject to applicable law, Sender may intercept, monitor, review and retain e-communications (EC) traveling through its networks/systems and may produce any such EC to regulators, law enforcement, in litigation and as required by law. The laws of the country of each sender/recipient may impact the handling of EC, and EC may be archived, supervised and produced in countries other than the country in which you are located. This message cannot be guaranteed to be se
Re: [flexcoders] Flex to HTML5 Conversion tool?
Just to throw in my two cents... I would not hold out any hope for any solution that will magically convert your Flex app to a HTML/JS app. Not in 6 months, not in 6 years. I don't want to be a downer, but I just don't see it happening. Sure, we may see some tech demos that work on super simple Flex apps, but I think that's about as far as you'll get. You also might get tools that let you write a new app in MXML/AS, specifically with targeting HTML/JS in mind, and that might work well. But I have almost no confidence that you will ever be able to take an existing, large Flex app and magically get it to run well as an HTML app. I'd of course love to be proven wrong. My advice is that if you really need to target HTML/JS is to build it new from scratch. It's a harsh reality, and you're going to hate a lot of the toolchain, language, and process, but if you really do have the requirement that you need to have an HTML/JS app, you might as well just rip off the band-aid in one go instead of holding out hope for a holy grail solution. On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 6:27 AM, Merrill, Jason < jason.merr...@bankofamerica.com> wrote: > ** > > > Check out another possibility - using haXe for converting an > MXML/Actionscript project to HTML5/Javascript. The syntax is extremely > similar to Actionscript, so you could convert the MXML (via the option with > the compiler to save the generated Actionscript from MXML) to haXe code, > and the Actionscript too. > > ** ** > > Jason Merrill > Instructional Technology Architect II** > > * Bank of America* Global Learning > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ___ > > ** ** > > *From:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *ganaraj p r > *Sent:* Thursday, December 01, 2011 4:13 AM > *To:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [flexcoders] Flex to HTML5 Conversion tool? > > ** ** > > > > If my understanding is right, Adobe is working on it currently. So you > might have to wait for another 6 months or so. > > ** ** > > If that time frame is not suitable for you, I suggest you rewrite the > project in HTML 5. > > On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 3:27 AM, Sells, Fred > wrote: > > > > I am looking at the same problem. A very long time ago I designed a tool > called ezX that was similar to Flex but not nearly as robust. That was an > Xwindows tool and has since gone the way of the dinosaur. > > > > I’m still researching but I think a tool like pyjamas pyjs.org might be > a building block. You could write an xml parser to handle the mxml to dom > and then use the dom to generate pyjamas class definitions (which you would > probably have to tweak by hand). > > > > I’m not sure about the action script. Source parsing is too tricky and I > don’t know if the byte code is easy to handle. Might be better to > outsource that overseas. > > > > Let me know what you decide > > > > *From:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *Venkat M > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 30, 2011 12:56 PM > *To:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com > *Subject:* [flexcoders] Flex to HTML5 Conversion tool? > > > > > > *Hi Group,* > > * * > > *I have a quick question.* > > *I have a web application that was developed using 100% flex (AS > included).* > > *Now to be on the safe side we want to evaluate the options of converting > the same on to HTML5. * > > * * > > *Do any one know of any tools that can help in the process of converting > from flex (developed) to html5 version?* > > *Your help will be greatly appreciated.* > > > > Cheers, > > *Venkat.* > > > > > > > > > > ** ** > > -- > Regards, > Ganaraj P R > > > -- > This message w/attachments (message) is intended solely for the use of the > intended recipient(s) and may contain information that is privileged, > confidential or proprietary. If you are not an intended recipient, please > notify the sender, and then please delete and destroy all copies and > attachments, and be advised that any review or dissemination of, or the > taking of any action in reliance on, the information contained in or > attached to this message is prohibited. > Unless specifically indicated, this message is not an offer to sell or a > solicitation of any investment products or other financial product or > service, an official confirmati
RE: [flexcoders] Flex to HTML5 Conversion tool?
Check out another possibility - using haXe for converting an MXML/Actionscript project to HTML5/Javascript. The syntax is extremely similar to Actionscript, so you could convert the MXML (via the option with the compiler to save the generated Actionscript from MXML) to haXe code, and the Actionscript too. Jason Merrill Instructional Technology Architect II Bank of America Global Learning ___ From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ganaraj p r Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 4:13 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex to HTML5 Conversion tool? If my understanding is right, Adobe is working on it currently. So you might have to wait for another 6 months or so. If that time frame is not suitable for you, I suggest you rewrite the project in HTML 5. On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 3:27 AM, Sells, Fred mailto:fred.se...@adventistcare.org>> wrote: I am looking at the same problem. A very long time ago I designed a tool called ezX that was similar to Flex but not nearly as robust. That was an Xwindows tool and has since gone the way of the dinosaur. I'm still researching but I think a tool like pyjamas pyjs.org<http://pyjs.org> might be a building block. You could write an xml parser to handle the mxml to dom and then use the dom to generate pyjamas class definitions (which you would probably have to tweak by hand). I'm not sure about the action script. Source parsing is too tricky and I don't know if the byte code is easy to handle. Might be better to outsource that overseas. Let me know what you decide From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com<mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com> [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com<mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Venkat M Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 12:56 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com<mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com> Subject: [flexcoders] Flex to HTML5 Conversion tool? Hi Group, I have a quick question. I have a web application that was developed using 100% flex (AS included). Now to be on the safe side we want to evaluate the options of converting the same on to HTML5. Do any one know of any tools that can help in the process of converting from flex (developed) to html5 version? Your help will be greatly appreciated. Cheers, Venkat. -- Regards, Ganaraj P R -- This message w/attachments (message) is intended solely for the use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or proprietary. If you are not an intended recipient, please notify the sender, and then please delete and destroy all copies and attachments, and be advised that any review or dissemination of, or the taking of any action in reliance on, the information contained in or attached to this message is prohibited. Unless specifically indicated, this message is not an offer to sell or a solicitation of any investment products or other financial product or service, an official confirmation of any transaction, or an official statement of Sender. Subject to applicable law, Sender may intercept, monitor, review and retain e-communications (EC) traveling through its networks/systems and may produce any such EC to regulators, law enforcement, in litigation and as required by law. The laws of the country of each sender/recipient may impact the handling of EC, and EC may be archived, supervised and produced in countries other than the country in which you are located. This message cannot be guaranteed to be secure or free of errors or viruses. References to "Sender" are references to any subsidiary of Bank of America Corporation. Securities and Insurance Products: * Are Not FDIC Insured * Are Not Bank Guaranteed * May Lose Value * Are Not a Bank Deposit * Are Not a Condition to Any Banking Service or Activity * Are Not Insured by Any Federal Government Agency. Attachments that are part of this EC may have additional important disclosures and disclaimers, which you should read. This message is subject to terms available at the following link: http://www.bankofamerica.com/emaildisclaimer. By messaging with Sender you consent to the foregoing.
Re: [flexcoders] Flex to HTML5 Conversion tool?
If my understanding is right, Adobe is working on it currently. So you might have to wait for another 6 months or so. If that time frame is not suitable for you, I suggest you rewrite the project in HTML 5. On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 3:27 AM, Sells, Fred wrote: > ** > > > I am looking at the same problem. A very long time ago I designed a tool > called ezX that was similar to Flex but not nearly as robust. That was an > Xwindows tool and has since gone the way of the dinosaur. > > ** ** > > I’m still researching but I think a tool like pyjamas pyjs.org might be > a building block. You could write an xml parser to handle the mxml to dom > and then use the dom to generate pyjamas class definitions (which you would > probably have to tweak by hand). > > ** ** > > I’m not sure about the action script. Source parsing is too tricky and I > don’t know if the byte code is easy to handle. Might be better to > outsource that overseas. > > ** ** > > Let me know what you decide > > ** ** > > *From:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *Venkat M > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 30, 2011 12:56 PM > *To:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com > *Subject:* [flexcoders] Flex to HTML5 Conversion tool? > > ** ** > > > > *Hi Group,* > > * * > > *I have a quick question.* > > *I have a web application that was developed using 100% flex (AS > included).* > > *Now to be on the safe side we want to evaluate the options of converting > the same on to HTML5. * > > * * > > *Do any one know of any tools that can help in the process of converting > from flex (developed) to html5 version?* > > *Your help will be greatly appreciated.* > > > > Cheers, > > *Venkat.* > > > > > > > > > -- Regards, Ganaraj P R
RE: [flexcoders] Flex to HTML5 Conversion tool?
I am looking at the same problem. A very long time ago I designed a tool called ezX that was similar to Flex but not nearly as robust. That was an Xwindows tool and has since gone the way of the dinosaur. I'm still researching but I think a tool like pyjamas pyjs.org might be a building block. You could write an xml parser to handle the mxml to dom and then use the dom to generate pyjamas class definitions (which you would probably have to tweak by hand). I'm not sure about the action script. Source parsing is too tricky and I don't know if the byte code is easy to handle. Might be better to outsource that overseas. Let me know what you decide From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Venkat M Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 12:56 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Flex to HTML5 Conversion tool? Hi Group, I have a quick question. I have a web application that was developed using 100% flex (AS included). Now to be on the safe side we want to evaluate the options of converting the same on to HTML5. Do any one know of any tools that can help in the process of converting from flex (developed) to html5 version? Your help will be greatly appreciated. Cheers, Venkat.
