Re: [flexcoders] General question about bindings and similarities with Cocoa bindings?

2006-10-25 Thread Owen van Dijk



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When you dispatch the myEventName event it
indicates that the variable that had the [Bindable("myEventName")]
metadata has been re-assigned.  So it is not the invoice object that dispatches
that event, it's the object that has a property for a given invoice that
dispatches.

 

[Bindable] is a Flex thing, not an AS3
thing.  The same mechanism does not work in a pure AS project nor will it work
in Flash 9.

If for example you do have a pure AS3 project that needs a clean seperation between a Model and a View, what is the direction to implement such thing? Not all the bells and whistles of the Flex Framework but just simple property binding. Anyone some suggestions? :) Is the 
mx.bindings.* package a solution maybe?-- Owen van Dijk

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Re: [flexcoders] General question about bindings and similarities with Cocoa bindings?

2006-10-10 Thread Alexander Lamb


Thanks for this first tip. However, there are still open questions:Basically, if I use [Bindable] the Flex compiler will automatically generate an event.If I specify the name of an event, I am responsible to fire the event.Ok, three questions:1)In the example, there is a dispatchEvent(new Event("myEventName"))But there is no added info on what is the object that changed! Imagine I have an array of invoice objects, if only one changes it will fire an event. How do I know which one?2)It looks like the [Bindable] trick is a pure Flex thing. Not an ActionScript3 language construct. Does that mean that Flex actually precompiles the source into an ActionScript3 compatible code then compiles the ActionScript3? If true, it means the bindings will not be usable "as is" in Flash 9 IDE?3)Maybe a pointer on ActionScript3 event mecanism documentation would be usefull (and not only display components events, but event meant to be used to notify other objects from model changes).After understanding how model objects fire events when modified, the next step will be to understand how client objects (often display objects but not only) register for observing those changes.Thanks --Alexander LambService d'Informatique MédicaleHôpitaux Universitaires de Genève[EMAIL PROTECTED]+41 22 372 88 62+41 79 420 79 73 On Oct 9, 2006, at 10:42 PM, Stephen Gilson wrote:  Hi,   Binding is event driven. There is information about the binding mechanism in the doc here:   http://livedocs.macromedia.com/flex/2/docs/1653.html   It describes the event mechanism used by data binding, and how to use that mechanism in your application.   Stephen   From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Alexander LambSent: Monday, October 09, 2006 9:33 AMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: [flexcoders] General question about bindings and similarities with Cocoa bindings?  Hello list,  I am new, so I am sorry if my question is old or badly formulated!  I am trying to understand the inner working of bindings in Flex. I understand the principal but not the "magic" and the tutorials of documentations I read show more the "how to do" than "how does it really work".  Now, the ideal would be some sort of comparison with what (for me) is the "reference" in bindings implementation: Cocoa bindings (Objective-C MacOSX).  In Objective-C, bindings are implemented using:  - key-value coding to give the names of the attributes you bind to (you can bind to "selectedObject.firstName" if the object of the model is in a list. - key-value observing to be able to listen to the notifications sent by the model when something changes  What I don't understand in Flex (or is it in ActionScript3?) is how the model will notify a change of a attribute of a list which can be listened to. I see in the code you can describe an attribute as "bindable", but what effect does that really have when, say, I do a "setFirstName(newValue)" when "firstName" is bindable. In Cocoa, it generates a local notification with a key path and old and new values which can be listened to by key-value observing objects (among which, bindings).  I would be happy with a low level documentation or (better) a comparison with Cocoa bindings to get started.  Where I want to get to:  I would like to write an app with a "real" data model (patients, visits, etc...). This model can be updated by asynchronous calls from a server. A change in the model obviously has to be reflected in the user interface. The other way round, I would like to update the user interface and this will update the model. I would like to get notified of the modification of the model to update the server.  An example would also do it, but not an example where the code is embeded in MXML. Model classes in separate ActionScript files. An MXML just for describing the user interface, and a controller class to setup the bindings and the communication. This would really help!  Thanks,  -- Alexander Lamb Service d'Informatique Médicale Hôpitaux Universitaires de Genève Alexander.J.[EMAIL PROTECTED]hcuge.ch +41 22 372 88 62 +41 79 420 79 73 
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RE: [flexcoders] General question about bindings and similarities with Cocoa bindings?

2006-10-09 Thread Stephen Gilson





Hi,
 
Binding is event driven. There is information about the 
binding mechanism in the doc here:
 
http://livedocs.macromedia.com/flex/2/docs/1653.html
 
It describes the event mechanism used by data binding, and 
how to use that mechanism in your application.
 
Stephen


From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alexander 
LambSent: Monday, October 09, 2006 9:33 AMTo: 
flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: [flexcoders] General question 
about bindings and similarities with Cocoa bindings?


Hello list,

I am new, so I am sorry if my question is old or badly formulated!

I am trying to understand the inner working of bindings in Flex. I 
understand the principal but not the "magic" and the tutorials of documentations 
I read show more the "how to do" than "how does it really work".

Now, the ideal would be some sort of comparison with what (for me) is the 
"reference" in bindings implementation: Cocoa bindings (Objective-C 
MacOSX).

In Objective-C, bindings are implemented using:

- key-value coding to give the names of the attributes you bind to (you can 
bind to "selectedObject.firstName" if the object of the model is in a 
list.
- key-value observing to be able to listen to the notifications sent by the 
model when something changes

What I don't understand in Flex (or is it in ActionScript3?) is how 
the model will notify a change of a attribute of a list which can be listened 
to. I see in the code you can describe an attribute as "bindable", but what 
effect does that really have when, say, I do a 
"setFirstName(newValue)" when "firstName" is bindable. In Cocoa, it 
generates a local notification with a key path and old and new values which can 
be listened to by key-value observing objects (among which, bindings).

I would be happy with a low level documentation or (better) a comparison 
with Cocoa bindings to get started.

Where I want to get to:

I would like to write an app with a "real" data model (patients, visits, 
etc...). This model can be updated by asynchronous calls from a server. A change 
in the model obviously has to be reflected in the user interface. The other way 
round, I would like to update the user interface and this will update the model. 
I would like to get notified of the modification of the model to update the 
server.

An example would also do it, but not an example where the code is embeded 
in MXML. Model classes in separate ActionScript files. An MXML just for 
describing the user interface, and a controller class to setup the bindings and 
the communication. This would really help!

Thanks,

--
Alexander Lamb
Service d'Informatique Médicale
Hôpitaux Universitaires de Genève
Alexander.J.[EMAIL PROTECTED]hcuge.ch
+41 22 372 88 62
+41 79 420 79 73




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