Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex applications look like Fisher-Price toys

2007-02-01 Thread Douglas Knudsen 

awesome work

oh and go gators!  :)

DK

On 1/31/07, Dave Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Thanks!  We have some awesome guys here who make all the magic happen.

Yes indeed we did.

--
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Cynergy Systems, Inc.
Adobe Flex Alliance Partner
http://www.cynergysystems.com
http://www.cynergysystems.com/blogs

Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Office: 866-CYNERGY

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "Brian Dunphy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> VERY nice Dave, you guys do awesome work.
>
> Just curious, did your team use the DistortionEffects library by Alex
> Uhlmann to do the CubeRotate effect on the right side panel?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brian
>
> On 1/31/07, Dave Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  For everyone who was interested in seeing more samples of real Flex
> >  applications and the extent to which you can skin up Flex using all
> >  the built in features, check out Cynergy TV. The first episode is the
> >  Flex Showcase and shows a small handful of apps we have built
over the
> >  last year with Flex.
> >
> >
http://www.cynergysystems.com/blogs/page/davewolf?entry=i_ll_show_you_mine
> >
> >  http://www.cynergysystems.tv
> >  http://www.cynergytv.com
> >
> >  CynergyTV itself is a Flex2 as well. We will be hosting many more
> >  episodes including tutorials, panels, and more samples and examples.
> >
> >  Cheers,
> >
> >  --
> >  Dave Wolf
> >  Cynergy Systems, Inc.
> >  Adobe Flex Alliance Partner
> >  http://www.cynergysystems.com
> >  http://www.cynergysystems.com/blogs
> >
> >  Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >  Office: 866-CYNERGY
> >
> >
> >  --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "David Mendels"  wrote:
> >  >
> >  > Hello,
> >  >
> >  > Many screenshots of Flex applications here:
> >  > http://www.flickr.com/photos/flexapps/
> >  >
> >  > Many of them look not at all like the out of the box look of Flex.
> >  >
> >  > Regards,
> >  > David
> >  > Adobe
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > 
> >  >
> >  > From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> >  > Behalf Of Shannon Hicks
> >  > Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 11:27 AM
> >  > To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
> >  > Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex applications look like
Fisher-Price toys
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > Flex 2 has unlimited design potential. You are not limited like you
> >  > think... If a component won't do what you want, you can always
re-skin
> >  > it. Here's an example of a Flex site that looks pretty much
nothing like
> >  > the standard skin:
> >  >
> >  > http://www.thebetterside.com/scrawl/ScrawlExample3.html
> >  > 
> >  >
> >  > Shan
> >  >
> >  > Paul Barbieux wrote:
> >  >
> >  > Hi;
> >  >
> >  > I'm a developper but also a web designer.
> >  > And I'm a beginner with Flex...
> >  > But I am frustrated with the possibilities of design of Flex.
> >  > All Flex applications I saw have same look: great buttons and
> >  > input
> >  > fields, great gap between lines. Every elements are great: these
> >  > applications look like Fisher-price toys ! (you know ? Toys for
> >  > children)
> >  >
> >  > Yes, the http://www.scalenine.com/ 
> >  > shows beautiful themes. But all
> >  > components have same size !
> >  >
> >  > A have made a click-model for an application in HTML, and now I
> >  > must
> >  > write it with Flex: I loose 1/3 of my page because I can't
> >  > reduce gab
> >  > between lines, I can't reduce padding between the label and the
> >  > border
> >  > of the buttons, ... (oh yes I can reduce all elements: but
> >  > labels and
> >  > texts become trucanted !)
> >  >
> >  > - Does a solution exist?
> >  > - Can someone show me a Flex site where there is a real work of
> >  > design?
> >  > - Can I expect improvements with Flex 3.0 ?
> >  >
> >  > Thank's
> >  >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Brian Dunphy
>




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RE: [flexcoders] Re: Flex applications look like Fisher-Price toys

2007-02-01 Thread Dimitrios Gianninas 
Absolutly awesome, great work!
 
Dimitrios Gianninas
RIA Developer
Optimal Payments Inc.
 



From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian 
Dunphy
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 10:26 AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex applications look like Fisher-Price toys



VERY nice Dave, you guys do awesome work.

Just curious, did your team use the DistortionEffects library by Alex
Uhlmann to do the CubeRotate effect on the right side panel?

Thanks,

Brian

On 1/31/07, Dave Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:gatorj24%40yahoo.com> > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> For everyone who was interested in seeing more samples of real Flex
> applications and the extent to which you can skin up Flex using all
> the built in features, check out Cynergy TV. The first episode is the
> Flex Showcase and shows a small handful of apps we have built over the
> last year with Flex.
>
> http://www.cynergysystems.com/blogs/page/davewolf?entry=i_ll_show_you_mine 
> <http://www.cynergysystems.com/blogs/page/davewolf?entry=i_ll_show_you_mine> 
>
> http://www.cynergysystems.tv <http://www.cynergysystems.tv> 
> http://www.cynergytv.com <http://www.cynergytv.com> 
>
> CynergyTV itself is a Flex2 as well. We will be hosting many more
> episodes including tutorials, panels, and more samples and examples.
>
> Cheers,
>
> --
> Dave Wolf
> Cynergy Systems, Inc.
> Adobe Flex Alliance Partner
> http://www.cynergysystems.com <http://www.cynergysystems.com> 
> http://www.cynergysystems.com/blogs <http://www.cynergysystems.com/blogs> 
>
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:dave.wolf%40cynergysystems.com> 
> Office: 866-CYNERGY
>
>
> --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com <mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com> , 
> "David Mendels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > Many screenshots of Flex applications here:
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/flexapps/ 
> > <http://www.flickr.com/photos/flexapps/> 
> >
> > Many of them look not at all like the out of the box look of Flex.
> >
> > Regards,
> > David
> > Adobe
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> > From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com <mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com>  
> > [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com <mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com> ] 
> > On
> > Behalf Of Shannon Hicks
> > Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 11:27 AM
> > To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com <mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com> 
> > Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex applications look like Fisher-Price toys
> >
> >
> >
> > Flex 2 has unlimited design potential. You are not limited like you
> > think... If a component won't do what you want, you can always re-skin
> > it. Here's an example of a Flex site that looks pretty much nothing like
> > the standard skin:
> >
> > http://www.thebetterside.com/scrawl/ScrawlExample3.html 
> > <http://www.thebetterside.com/scrawl/ScrawlExample3.html> 
> > <http://www.thebetterside.com/scrawl/ScrawlExample3.html 
> > <http://www.thebetterside.com/scrawl/ScrawlExample3.html> >
> >
> > Shan
> >
> > Paul Barbieux wrote:
> >
> > Hi;
> >
> > I'm a developper but also a web designer.
> > And I'm a beginner with Flex...
> > But I am frustrated with the possibilities of design of Flex.
> > All Flex applications I saw have same look: great buttons and
> > input
> > fields, great gap between lines. Every elements are great: these
> > applications look like Fisher-price toys ! (you know ? Toys for
> > children)
> >
> > Yes, the http://www.scalenine.com/ <http://www.scalenine.com/>  
> > <http://www.scalenine.com/ <http://www.scalenine.com/> >
> > shows beautiful themes. But all
> > components have same size !
> >
> > A have made a click-model for an application in HTML, and now I
> > must
> > write it with Flex: I loose 1/3 of my page because I can't
> > reduce gab
> > between lines, I can't reduce padding between the label and the
> > border
> > of the buttons, ... (oh yes I can reduce all elements: but
> > labels and
> > texts become trucanted !)
> >
> > - Does a solution exist?
> > - Can someone show me a Flex site where there is a real work of
> > design?
> > - Can I expect improvements with Flex 3.0 ?
> >
> > Thank's
> >
>
>
>
> 

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Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex applications look like Fisher-Price toys

2007-01-31 Thread Bjorn Schultheiss 

nice work!


On 01/02/2007, at 3:26 AM, Dave Wolf wrote:


Thanks! We have some awesome guys here who make all the magic happen.

Yes indeed we did.

--  
Dave Wolf

Cynergy Systems, Inc.
Adobe Flex Alliance Partner
http://www.cynergysystems.com
http://www.cynergysystems.com/blogs

Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Office: 866-CYNERGY

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "Brian Dunphy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

>
> VERY nice Dave, you guys do awesome work.
>
> Just curious, did your team use the DistortionEffects library by  
Alex

> Uhlmann to do the CubeRotate effect on the right side panel?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brian
>
> On 1/31/07, Dave Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > For everyone who was interested in seeing more samples of real  
Flex
> > applications and the extent to which you can skin up Flex using  
all
> > the built in features, check out Cynergy TV. The first episode  
is the

> > Flex Showcase and shows a small handful of apps we have built
over the
> > last year with Flex.
> >
> >
http://www.cynergysystems.com/blogs/page/davewolf? 
entry=i_ll_show_you_mine

> >
> > http://www.cynergysystems.tv
> > http://www.cynergytv.com
> >
> > CynergyTV itself is a Flex2 as well. We will be hosting many more
> > episodes including tutorials, panels, and more samples and  
examples.

> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > --
> > Dave Wolf
> > Cynergy Systems, Inc.
> > Adobe Flex Alliance Partner
> > http://www.cynergysystems.com
> > http://www.cynergysystems.com/blogs
> >
> > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Office: 866-CYNERGY
> >
> >
> > --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "David Mendels"   
wrote:

> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > Many screenshots of Flex applications here:
> > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/flexapps/
> > >
> > > Many of them look not at all like the out of the box look of  
Flex.

> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > David
> > > Adobe
> > >
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > > Behalf Of Shannon Hicks
> > > Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 11:27 AM
> > > To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex applications look like
Fisher-Price toys
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Flex 2 has unlimited design potential. You are not limited  
like you

> > > think... If a component won't do what you want, you can always
re-skin
> > > it. Here's an example of a Flex site that looks pretty much
nothing like
> > > the standard skin:
> > >
> > > http://www.thebetterside.com/scrawl/ScrawlExample3.html
> > > 
> > >
> > > Shan
> > >
> > > Paul Barbieux wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi;
> > >
> > > I'm a developper but also a web designer.
> > > And I'm a beginner with Flex...
> > > But I am frustrated with the possibilities of design of Flex.
> > > All Flex applications I saw have same look: great buttons and
> > > input
> > > fields, great gap between lines. Every elements are great: these
> > > applications look like Fisher-price toys ! (you know ? Toys for
> > > children)
> > >
> > > Yes, the http://www.scalenine.com/ 
> > > shows beautiful themes. But all
> > > components have same size !
> > >
> > > A have made a click-model for an application in HTML, and now I
> > > must
> > > write it with Flex: I loose 1/3 of my page because I can't
> > > reduce gab
> > > between lines, I can't reduce padding between the label and the
> > > border
> > > of the buttons, ... (oh yes I can reduce all elements: but
> > > labels and
> > > texts become trucanted !)
> > >
> > > - Does a solution exist?
> > > - Can someone show me a Flex site where there is a real work of
> > > design?
> > > - Can I expect improvements with Flex 3.0 ?
> > >
> > > Thank's
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Brian Dunphy
>

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex applications look like Fisher-Price toys

2007-01-31 Thread Brian Dunphy 
VERY nice Dave, you guys do awesome work.

Just curious, did your team use the DistortionEffects library by Alex
Uhlmann to do the CubeRotate effect on the right side panel?

Thanks,

Brian

On 1/31/07, Dave Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  For everyone who was interested in seeing more samples of real Flex
>  applications and the extent to which you can skin up Flex using all
>  the built in features, check out Cynergy TV. The first episode is the
>  Flex Showcase and shows a small handful of apps we have built over the
>  last year with Flex.
>
>  http://www.cynergysystems.com/blogs/page/davewolf?entry=i_ll_show_you_mine
>
>  http://www.cynergysystems.tv
>  http://www.cynergytv.com
>
>  CynergyTV itself is a Flex2 as well. We will be hosting many more
>  episodes including tutorials, panels, and more samples and examples.
>
>  Cheers,
>
>  --
>  Dave Wolf
>  Cynergy Systems, Inc.
>  Adobe Flex Alliance Partner
>  http://www.cynergysystems.com
>  http://www.cynergysystems.com/blogs
>
>  Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Office: 866-CYNERGY
>
>
>  --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "David Mendels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >
>  > Hello,
>  >
>  > Many screenshots of Flex applications here:
>  > http://www.flickr.com/photos/flexapps/
>  >
>  > Many of them look not at all like the out of the box look of Flex.
>  >
>  > Regards,
>  > David
>  > Adobe
>  >
>  >
>  > 
>  >
>  > From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>  > Behalf Of Shannon Hicks
>  > Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 11:27 AM
>  > To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
>  > Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex applications look like Fisher-Price toys
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > Flex 2 has unlimited design potential. You are not limited like you
>  > think... If a component won't do what you want, you can always re-skin
>  > it. Here's an example of a Flex site that looks pretty much nothing like
>  > the standard skin:
>  >
>  > http://www.thebetterside.com/scrawl/ScrawlExample3.html
>  > 
>  >
>  > Shan
>  >
>  > Paul Barbieux wrote:
>  >
>  > Hi;
>  >
>  > I'm a developper but also a web designer.
>  > And I'm a beginner with Flex...
>  > But I am frustrated with the possibilities of design of Flex.
>  > All Flex applications I saw have same look: great buttons and
>  > input
>  > fields, great gap between lines. Every elements are great: these
>  > applications look like Fisher-price toys ! (you know ? Toys for
>  > children)
>  >
>  > Yes, the http://www.scalenine.com/ 
>  > shows beautiful themes. But all
>  > components have same size !
>  >
>  > A have made a click-model for an application in HTML, and now I
>  > must
>  > write it with Flex: I loose 1/3 of my page because I can't
>  > reduce gab
>  > between lines, I can't reduce padding between the label and the
>  > border
>  > of the buttons, ... (oh yes I can reduce all elements: but
>  > labels and
>  > texts become trucanted !)
>  >
>  > - Does a solution exist?
>  > - Can someone show me a Flex site where there is a real work of
>  > design?
>  > - Can I expect improvements with Flex 3.0 ?
>  >
>  > Thank's
>  >
>
>
>
>  


-- 
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Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex applications look like Fisher-Price toys

2007-01-29 Thread Michael Schmalle 

Hi,

Simple fix now that I see what you are talking about.

I took a screen shot of you form, measured the button exactly.

15 pixels height?
13 pxiels font size?

using this in css

   Button {
   paddingTop:-2;
   paddingBottom:0;
   }

The label text on the button is perfectly centered.

As far as the textinput and combo box, you would need to extend the class.

With something to the effect of.

package
{
import mx.controls.TextInput;

[Style(name="paddingTop", type="Number")]

public class TextInputExtension extends TextInput
{

   /**
*  @private
*/
   override protected function updateDisplayList(unscaledWidth:Number,

unscaledHeight:Number):void
   {
   super.updateDisplayList(unscaledWidth, unscaledHeight);

   var paddingTop:Number = getStyle("paddingTop");

   textField.y += -2//paddingTop;
   textField.height += 5
   }
}
}

Yes, this is a deficiencies of the framework. But I would ask this for a
feature enhancement of the controls to HONOR all 4 paddings in
updateDisplayList() and measure().

So, bottom line is if you 'want' those small features, you will have to code
them yourself.

I know for a fact taht Adobe tries to do things that a majority of
developers will use. As far as I know you are the first that has brought up
setting control size smaller that the conventions.

I do think Adobe needs to be consistent with all controls enabling padding
on all sides so you can use css to do negetive psotions of the composited
controls.

Peace, Mike




On 1/29/07, Paul Barbieux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


  Thank you everybody.
The examples are nice, but my problem remains: these sites use same size
for components like input fields, combobox, buttons and text.

So, I posted images at this address: www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Now, you can see what worries me!

 





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