Re: [flexcoders] TemplateMonster.com

2005-12-08 Thread JesterXL
Title: TemplateMonster.com





To answer your question, yes, they will 
work.

About 3 months ago, I had a Flash site I helped a 
company with on the coding side. Additionally, I helped 
changed the template they had utilized; I think it 
was from that site.

I suggest, however, you instead hire a designer who 
has work that you like, and get a production designer with knowledge of Flex and 
Flash to integrate the design into workable View's for your 
application.

Otherwise, you'll be paying serious money to 
someone who has both Flex development  Flash production art skills. 
There is additional time factored into "cleaning up" those designs as 
well. The template I worked on, while created by a talented designer, 
suffered from horrible technical practices, resulting in more time to change the 
interface to the client's whims, and add the necessarey code.

If I had to do it again, I would of hired the 
designer myself after confirming the technical requirements for the FLA, and 
then integrated the code in.


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Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 5:21 PM
Subject: [flexcoders] TemplateMonster.com

Does anyone know 
about www.templatemonster.com 
and if the templates can be integrated 
with Flex applications?
Thanks
Agha 
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Re: [flexcoders] TemplateMonster.com

2005-12-08 Thread Tariq Ahmed
Title: TemplateMonster.com






I've bought templates from them before. It's essentially a zip file
with all the raw assets so that you can apply to your own situation
(sample HTML code that put all the graphics together, Photoshop files,
FLAs, etc...). As far as I know they don't have anything that would be
immediately plug and playable. But if you spend the time you can make
your own skins / styles / etc... based on the package.

But it'll be great in the future when people start publishing full
fledged Flex themes that can be easily applied.



Mehdi, Agha wrote:

  
  
  
  Does
anyone know about www.templatemonster.com and if the templates can be
integrated with Flex applications?
  Thanks
  Agha Mehdi
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eBusiness Program Manager
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408.284.8239
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209.275.0482
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RE: [flexcoders] TemplateMonster.com

2005-12-08 Thread Ralf Rottmann
Title: TemplateMonster.com










One remark from my side: I have used
templates from Templatemonster because my customers liked them. I have to say
that most of them totally lacked basic coding and implementation best
practices. For example the classes and styles in the style sheets that came
along with the files were pretty quick and dirty (with enumerated styles like
style1, style2, style3) and none of the templates was nearly done in clean html.
When it came to cross-browser capabilities, I had to manually go through the
html source code of each page and fine tune stuff.



Some templates used images (like spacers,
backgrounds, lines, etc.) where CSS would have done a beautiful job, too.



Id say if you need something the
quick and dirty way or just want to reuse the multimedia assets, go for the
templates, they are not too expensive. However if maintainability and
cross-browser experience is important for you, Id second what others on
the list have already said: Chances are it might be cheaper to just hire a
professional web designer.



Regards





Ralf Rottmann | Director
Sales Marketing | VoicInt Telecommunications GmbH
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Sent: Donnerstag, 8. Dezember 2005
23:43
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders]
TemplateMonster.com





I've bought templates from them before. It's
essentially a zip file with all the raw assets so that you can apply to your
own situation (sample HTML code that put all the graphics together, Photoshop
files, FLAs, etc...). As far as I know they don't have anything that
would be immediately plug and playable. But if you spend the time you can make
your own skins / styles / etc... based on the package.

But it'll be great in the future when people start publishing full fledged Flex
themes that can be easily applied.



Mehdi, Agha wrote: 

Does anyone know about www.templatemonster.com
and if the templates can be integrated with Flex
applications?

Thanks

Agha Mehdi

IDT - eBusiness Program Manager

Work: 408.284.8239

Cell : 209.275.0482

Fax : 408.284.2766









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Re: [flexcoders] TemplateMonster.com

2005-12-08 Thread Ben Lucyk



Quick agreement from me as well. I used a template from there for a site I did and the code seemed like it was thrown together in a darn hurry. It didn't look bad, but left untouched it was a maintenance pain waiting to happen.


-Ben
On 12/8/05, Ralf Rottmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


One remark from my side: I have used templates from Templatemonster because my customers liked them. I have to say that most of them totally lacked basic coding and implementation best practices. For example the classes and styles in the style sheets that came along with the files were pretty quick and dirty (with enumerated styles like style1, style2, style3) and none of the templates was nearly done in clean html. When it came to cross-browser capabilities, I had to manually go through the html source code of each page and fine tune stuff.


Some templates used images (like spacers, backgrounds, lines, etc.) where CSS would have done a beautiful job, too.


I'd say if you need something the quick and dirty way or just want to reuse the multimedia assets, go for the templates, they are not too expensive. However if maintainability and cross-browser experience is important for you, I'd second what others on the list have already said: Chances are it might be cheaper to just hire a professional web designer.


Regards


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m:+49-(0)170-914-5495 | f: +49-(0)231-557402-99 | e: 
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flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tariq AhmedSent: Donnerstag, 8. Dezember 2005 23:43
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [flexcoders] 
TemplateMonster.com


I've bought templates from them before. It's essentially a zip file with all the raw assets so that you can apply to your own situation (sample HTML code that put all the graphics together, Photoshop files, FLAs, etc...). As far as I know they don't have anything that would be immediately plug and playable. But if you spend the time you can make your own skins / styles / etc... based on the package.
But it'll be great in the future when people start publishing full fledged Flex themes that can be easily applied.Mehdi, Agha wrote: 
Does anyone know about 
www.templatemonster.com 
and if the templates can be integrated with Flex applications?
Thanks
Agha Mehdi
IDT - eBusiness Program Manager
Work: 408.284.8239
Cell : 209.275.0482
Fax : 408.284.2766
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Re: [flexcoders] TemplateMonster.com

2005-12-08 Thread John C. Bland II



To pile on the agreements, I haven't purchased any templates (100% against them) but have edited them for clients. My experience is similar to Jesse. The code was so horrible in this file I DID hire someone else to do it. If I worked on it I would've been too compelled to rewrite it properly.
IMO, a custom design is worth a million times more than a design a million people could have by downloading a template. (subliminal message from Bobby Boucher's Mom: Templates are the devil!) It seems to be a touchy topic though (to use or not use templates) so I'm not trying to hijack this thread. Just wanted to give my opinion on site/app designs.
On 12/8/05, Ben Lucyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Quick agreement from me as well. I used a template from there for a site I did and the code seemed like it was thrown together in a darn hurry. It didn't look bad, but left untouched it was a maintenance pain waiting to happen.


-Ben
On 12/8/05, Ralf Rottmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:


One remark from my side: I have used templates from Templatemonster because my customers liked them. I have to say that most of them totally lacked basic coding and implementation best practices. For example the classes and styles in the style sheets that came along with the files were pretty quick and dirty (with enumerated styles like style1, style2, style3) and none of the templates was nearly done in clean html. When it came to cross-browser capabilities, I had to manually go through the html source code of each page and fine tune stuff.


Some templates used images (like spacers, backgrounds, lines, etc.) where CSS would have done a beautiful job, too.


I'd say if you need something the quick and dirty way or just want to reuse the multimedia assets, go for the templates, they are not too expensive. However if maintainability and cross-browser experience is important for you, I'd second what others on the list have already said: Chances are it might be cheaper to just hire a professional web designer.


Regards


Ralf Rottmann | Director Sales Marketing | VoicInt Telecommunications GmbH
m:+49-(0)170-914-5495 | f: +49-(0)231-557402-99 | e: 

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flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tariq AhmedSent: Donnerstag, 8. Dezember 2005 23:43

To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [flexcoders] 
TemplateMonster.com


I've bought templates from them before. It's essentially a zip file with all the raw assets so that you can apply to your own situation (sample HTML code that put all the graphics together, Photoshop files, FLAs, etc...). As far as I know they don't have anything that would be immediately plug and playable. But if you spend the time you can make your own skins / styles / etc... based on the package.
But it'll be great in the future when people start publishing full fledged Flex themes that can be easily applied.Mehdi, Agha wrote: 
Does anyone know about 

www.templatemonster.com 

and if the templates can be integrated with Flex applications?
Thanks
Agha Mehdi
IDT - eBusiness Program Manager
Work: 408.284.8239
Cell : 209.275.0482
Fax : 408.284.2766
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RE: [flexcoders] TemplateMonster.com

2005-12-08 Thread Mehdi, Agha










Great arguments guys. Thanks a bunch for
your inputs on this subject. Ill wait for the time like Tariq when
quality themes are available for Flex.





Agha Mehdi 
IDT - eBusiness Program Manager 











From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John C. Bland II
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005
3:55 PM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders]
TemplateMonster.com





To pile on the
agreements, I haven't purchased any templates (100% against them) but have
edited them for clients. My experience is similar to Jesse. The code was so
horrible in this file I DID hire someone else to do it. If I worked on it I
would've been too compelled to rewrite it properly. 

IMO, a custom design is worth a million times more than a design a million
people could have by downloading a template. (subliminal message from Bobby
Boucher's Mom: Templates are the devil!) It seems to be a touchy
topic though (to use or not use templates) so I'm not trying to hijack this
thread. Just wanted to give my opinion on site/app designs. 



On 12/8/05, Ben
Lucyk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:



Quick agreement from me as well. I used a template from there for
a site I did and the code seemed like it was thrown together in a darn
hurry. It didn't look bad,
but left untouched it was a maintenance pain waiting to happen. 











-Ben









On 12/8/05, Ralf
Rottmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote: 



One remark from my side: I have used templates from
Templatemonster because my customers liked them. I have to say that most of
them totally lacked basic coding and implementation best practices. For example
the classes and styles in the style sheets that came along with the files were
pretty quick and dirty (with enumerated styles like style1, style2, style3) and
none of the templates was nearly done in clean html. When it came to
cross-browser capabilities, I had to manually go through the html source code
of each page and fine tune stuff. 



Some templates used images (like spacers, backgrounds, lines,
etc.) where CSS would have done a beautiful job, too. 



I'd say if you need something the quick and dirty way or just
want to reuse the multimedia assets, go for the templates, they are not too
expensive. However if maintainability and cross-browser experience is important
for you, I'd second what others on the list have already said: Chances are it
might be cheaper to just hire a professional web designer. 



Regards





Ralf Rottmann | Director
Sales Marketing | VoicInt Telecommunications GmbH 
m:+49-(0)170-914-5495 | f: +49-(0)231-557402-99 | e: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Ahmed
Sent: Donnerstag, 8. Dezember 2005
23:43
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders]
TemplateMonster.com







I've bought templates from them before. It's essentially a zip
file with all the raw assets so that you can apply to your own situation
(sample HTML code that put all the graphics together, Photoshop files,
FLAs, etc...). As far as I know they don't have anything that would be
immediately plug and playable. But if you spend the time you can make your own
skins / styles / etc... based on the package. 

But it'll be great in the future when people start publishing full fledged Flex
themes that can be easily applied.



Mehdi, Agha wrote: 

Does anyone know about www.templatemonster.com
and if the templates can be integrated with Flex
applications?

Thanks

Agha Mehdi

IDT - eBusiness Program Manager

Work: 408.284.8239

Cell : 209.275.0482

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Re: [flexcoders] TemplateMonster.com

2005-12-08 Thread Robert Thompson



That's because these are primarily Macintosh developers from England.  "John C. Bland II" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  To pile on the agreements, I haven't purchased any templates (100% against them) but have edited them for clients. My experience is similar to Jesse. The code was so horrible in this file I DID hire someone else to do it. If I worked on it I would've been too compelled to rewrite it properly. IMO, a custom design is worth a million times more than a design a million people could have by downloading a template. (subliminal message from Bobby Boucher's Mom: "Templates are the devil!") It seems to be a touchy topic though (to use or not use templates) so I'm not trying to hijack this thread. Just wanted to give my opinion on site/app designs.   On 12/8/05, Ben Lucyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Quick agreement from me as well. I used a template from there for a site I did and the code seemed like it was thrown together in a darn hurry. It didn't look bad, but left untouched it was a maintenance pain waiting to happen. -BenOn 12/8/05, Ralf Rottmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:   One remark from my side: I have used templates from Templatemonster because my customers liked them. I have to say that most of them totally lacked basic coding and implementation best practices. For example the classes and styles in the style sheets that came along with the files were pretty quick and dirty (with enumerated styles like style1, style2, style3) and none of the templates was nearly done in clean html. When it came to cross-browser capabilities, I had to manually go through the html source code of each page and fine tune stuff. Some templates used images (like spacers, backgrounds, lines, etc.) where CSS would have done a
 beautiful job, too. I'd say if you need something the quick and dirty way or just want to reuse the multimedia assets, go for the templates, they are not too expensive. However if maintainability and cross-browser experience is important for you, I'd second what others on the list have already said: Chances are it might be cheaper to just hire a professional web designer. Regards  Ralf Rottmann | Director Sales Marketing | VoicInt Telecommunications GmbH m:+49-(0)170-914-5495 | f: +49-(0)231-557402-99 | e: [EMAIL PROTECTED]---   From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tariq AhmedSent: Donnerstag, 8. Dezember 2005 23:43To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [flexcoders] TemplateMonster.com  I've bought templates from them before. It's essentially a zip file with all the raw assets so that you can apply to your own situation (sample HTML code that put all the graphics together, Photoshop files, FLAs, etc...). As far as I know they don't have anything that would be immediately plug and playable. But if you spend the time you can make your own skins / styles / etc... based on the package. But it'll be great in the future when people start publishing full fledged Flex themes that can be easily applied.Mehdi, Agha
 wrote:   Does anyone know about www.templatemonster.com and if the templates can be integrated with Flex applications?  Thanks  Agha Mehdi  IDT - eBusiness
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Re: [flexcoders] TemplateMonster.com

2005-12-08 Thread John C. Bland II



That's an interesting comment. Is that where the majority of templates are done, honestly?Guess it boils down to, you get what you pay for (regardless of who develops it). On 12/8/05, 
Robert Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



That's because these are primarily Macintosh developers from England.  John C. Bland II 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  To pile on the agreements, I haven't purchased any templates (100% against them) but have edited them for clients. My experience is similar to Jesse. The code was so horrible in this file I DID hire someone else to do it. If I worked on it I would've been too compelled to rewrite it properly. 
IMO, a custom design is worth a million times more than a design a million people could have by downloading a template. (subliminal message from Bobby Boucher's Mom: Templates are the devil!) It seems to be a touchy topic though (to use or not use templates) so I'm not trying to hijack this thread. Just wanted to give my opinion on site/app designs. 
  On 12/8/05, Ben Lucyk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:Quick agreement from me as well. I used a template from there for a site I did and the code seemed like it was thrown together in a darn hurry. It didn't 
look bad, but left untouched it was a maintenance pain waiting to happen. -BenOn 12/8/05, Ralf Rottmann
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:   
One remark from my side: I have used templates from Templatemonster because my customers liked them. I have to say that most of them totally lacked basic coding and implementation best practices. For example the classes and styles in the style sheets that came along with the files were pretty quick and dirty (with enumerated styles like style1, style2, style3) and none of the templates was nearly done in clean html. When it came to cross-browser capabilities, I had to manually go through the html source code of each page and fine tune stuff. 

Some templates used images (like spacers, backgrounds, lines, etc.) where CSS would have done a
 beautiful job, too. 
I'd say if you need something the quick and dirty way or just want to reuse the multimedia assets, go for the templates, they are not too expensive. However if maintainability and cross-browser experience is important for you, I'd second what others on the list have already said: Chances are it might be cheaper to just hire a professional web designer. 

Regards  
Ralf Rottmann | Director Sales Marketing | VoicInt Telecommunications GmbH m:+49-(0)170-914-5495 | f: +49-(0)231-557402-99 | e: 

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On Behalf Of Tariq AhmedSent: Donnerstag, 8. Dezember 2005 23:43To: 
flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [flexcoders] TemplateMonster.com  
I've bought templates from them before. It's essentially a zip file with all the raw assets so that you can apply to your own situation (sample HTML code that put all the graphics together, Photoshop files, FLAs, etc...). As far as I know they don't have anything that would be immediately plug and playable. But if you spend the time you can make your own skins / styles / etc... based on the package. 
But it'll be great in the future when people start publishing full fledged Flex themes that can be easily applied.Mehdi, Agha
 wrote:   Does anyone know about 
www.templatemonster.com 
and if the templates can be integrated with Flex applications?  Thanks
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