Re: [flexcoders] All the bunch of idiots at Adobe, please note!

2006-04-17 Thread Faisal Abid
t_msreddy wrote:
 I wanted to share this aweful story to this group.

 Over months we have been trying to get a Flex expert from Adobe to
 do a code review of our application as a part of our partnership
 building process. They agreed to do it in person and finally on the
 day, they sent out an email saying they cannot come and will do this
 over breeze presentation. This was not ok for us but we had no other
 option and we oked it. BTW the guys were Brian O'Connor, Adobe
 Consulting, John Bennet, Architect.

 Finally during the presentation, we went through the agenda for the
 meeting and basically we wanted to get some useful tips for the
 problem we were having in flex app and things that we could not
 implement. Over the presentation, they were treating themselves as
 gods and us as no good developers. And at times it
 went like OK we got it, next... next, I was very offended while
 driving the presentation. At one point I was showing them a slide
 with cairngorm and i said we are using viewhelpers and value
 objects and .., one of the guys said quickly viewhelpers are
 not values objects.  They were very disrespectful all over the
 meeting. Also he mentioned that Cairngorm is not the bible. So he
 thinks we dont know this?

 I mean this is total lack of professionalism by Adobe guys. They
 should treat the flex developer community with respect and show some
 sensitivity when they talk to people and treat them as experts
 rather than dont-know-even-this-guys.

 On top of that they did not give one single useful tip for us. They
 were blabbering like inexperienced developers.


 All the bunch of idiots at Adobe, please note this aweful story







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You cant call everyone at adobe idiots, becuase of two people , Im sure 
that they didnt want to offend you and it was just in there nature like 
the way they talk , but im sure they didnt want to offend you


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Re: [flexcoders] All the bunch of idiots at Adobe, please note!

2006-04-17 Thread John Dowdell
Hi, I'm sorry you're not happy, and I'd like to pursue this. But to 
follow up on this internally I'd need to at least know your name and 
business group.

(Staffers here don't usually have the bandwidth to analyze customer 
projects, so I'm assuming there was some type of business relationship 
involved, some type of contractual clause for mutual satisfaction.)

I'm not sure what I can do yet... can you add some functional detail so 
I can try to help...?

tx,
jd





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