Re: [flexcoders] PLEASE: Could someone at Adobe/Macromedia do a Carnigorm Video Intro.
I have a very (very) simple sample app that I use to illustrate how to get the ball rolling with Cairngorm2 that I can send to you. It includes documentation on how to add your own dispatchEvent in step-by-step instructions. I'm not knocking the Cairngorm2 'Login' example, but I think that a 'hold-your-hand' example is helpful for those getting familiar with patterns. --- This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and erase this e-mail message immediately. --- -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [flexcoders] PLEASE: Could someone at Adobe/Macromedia do a Carnigorm Video Intro.
Hi Michael, I would love to have a look at your sample app! And I guess many others might be, and surely many others will be in the future when Flex 2 comes out. So be prepared to receive many requests. ;) Thanks, Claudia On 4/26/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a very (very) simple sample app that I use to illustrate how to get the ball rolling with Cairngorm2 that I can send to you. It includes documentation on how to add your own dispatchEvent in step-by-step instructions. I'm not knocking the Cairngorm2 'Login' example, but I think that a 'hold-your-hand' example is helpful for those getting familiar with patterns. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [flexcoders] PLEASE: Could someone at Adobe/Macromedia do a Carnigorm Video Intro.
Hello, Could you send me one too? Dima --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a very (very) simple sample app that I use to illustrate how to get the ball rolling with Cairngorm2 that I can send to you. It includes documentation on how to add your own dispatchEvent in step-by-step instructions. I'm not knocking the Cairngorm2 'Login' example, but I think that a 'hold-your-hand' example is helpful for those getting familiar with patterns. --- This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and erase this e-mail message immediately. --- __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [flexcoders] PLEASE: Could someone at Adobe/Macromedia do a Carnigorm Video Intro.
I will be sure to send it to you. The http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/flex/articles/cairngorm_pt1.html article is great, however I don't think that it has been updated to Flex2 (Steve W?) --- This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and erase this e-mail message immediately. --- -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [flexcoders] PLEASE: Could someone at Adobe/Macromedia do a Carnigorm Video Intro.
Michael, I would love to get that simple app you describe. I am just jumping (being thrown?) in to the Flex/Cairngorm community and am being asked by my company to get up to speed very quickly. I appreciate any help you can provide. You can send anything to the email below. [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Mark Davis Applications Developer HealthGrades: Guiding America to Better Healthcare NASDAQ: HGRD w (720) 963-6585 f (720) 963-6685 [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ The message contains confidential and/or legally privileged information and is intended for use only by the indicated addressee. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute, or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmissions cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 7:52 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] PLEASE: Could someone at Adobe/Macromedia do a Carnigorm Video Intro. I have a very (very) simple sample app that I use to illustrate how to get the ball rolling with Cairngorm2 that I can send to you. It includes documentation on how to add your own dispatchEvent in step-by-step instructions. I'm not knocking the Cairngorm2 'Login' example, but I think that a 'hold-your-hand' example is helpful for those getting familiar with patterns. --- This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and erase this e-mail message immediately. --- -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [flexcoders] PLEASE: Could someone at Adobe/Macromedia do a Carnigorm Video Intro.
Hey Michael Any chance I could get that from you too? I've found the available Cg2 examples out there somewhat lacking... the 6 part article talks about and uses Cg.99, but I have F2B2 installed so I want to learn Cg2. The Cg2 CairngormLogin example has little documentation (not that it really does much anyway)... and there's a PhonesCairngorm2 example, but it's complex, uses Data Services, requires CF code, so... what I'd love to get my hands on would be a simple Cg2 example, one that has a couple simple RPC services to something like a public blog feed or a local XML data file, a couple VOs, a couple commands, a couple views, a couple controls. Nothing overly complicated and something with some healthy documentation (even inline comments would be fine.) Your example might not meet all those criteria, but that's totally okay, I'll take anything :-) Thanks! Darren From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] PLEASE: Could someone at Adobe/Macromedia do a Carnigorm Video Intro. Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 09:51:56 -0400 I have a very (very) simple sample app that I use to illustrate how to get the ball rolling with Cairngorm2 that I can send to you. It includes documentation on how to add your own dispatchEvent in step-by-step instructions. I'm not knocking the Cairngorm2 'Login' example, but I think that a 'hold-your-hand' example is helpful for those getting familiar with patterns. --- This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and erase this e-mail message immediately. --- -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [flexcoders] PLEASE: Could someone at Adobe/Macromedia do a Carnigorm Video Intro.
I'll send you a copy. On another note, I was looking at the ViewLocator/ViewHelper code and I found myself wondering how to implement it. It's not that the theory isn't sound, I'm sure it is - just try to find some simple working examples. Anyone out there have some simple Cairngorm2 ViewLocator examples? Steve Webster had mentioned to me that the ModelLocator can handle all the work that the ViewLocator/ViewHelper is intended to do, so perhaps they are not necessary. Thoughts? Darren Houle To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: [flexcoders] PLEASE: Could someone at Adobe/Macromedia do a Carnigorm flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Video Intro. 04/26/2006 11:10 AM Please respond to flexcoders Hey Michael Any chance I could get that from you too? I've found the available Cg2 examples out there somewhat lacking... the 6 part article talks about and uses Cg.99, but I have F2B2 installed so I want to learn Cg2. The Cg2 CairngormLogin example has little documentation (not that it really does much anyway)... and there's a PhonesCairngorm2 example, but it's complex, uses Data Services, requires CF code, so... what I'd love to get my hands on would be a simple Cg2 example, one that has a couple simple RPC services to something like a public blog feed or a local XML data file, a couple VOs, a couple commands, a couple views, a couple controls. Nothing overly complicated and something with some healthy documentation (even inline comments would be fine.) Your example might not meet all those criteria, but that's totally okay, I'll take anything :-) Thanks! Darren From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] PLEASE: Could someone at Adobe/Macromedia do a Carnigorm Video Intro. Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 09:51:56 -0400 I have a very (very) simple sample app that I use to illustrate how to get the ball rolling with Cairngorm2 that I can send to you. It includes documentation on how to add your own dispatchEvent in step-by-step instructions. I'm not knocking the Cairngorm2 'Login' example, but I think that a 'hold-your-hand' example is helpful for those getting familiar with patterns. --- This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and erase this e-mail message immediately. --- -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links --- This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and erase this e-mail message immediately. --- -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [flexcoders] PLEASE: Could someone at Adobe/Macromedia do a Carnigorm Video Intro.
If you're an OOP, Cairngorm purist, sure. However, for those of use under extreme deadlines who have no problem tossing lofty ideals out the window, ViewLocator is a life saver. If there is a need to have some view tell another view not within the direct DisplayList to do something, it's a nice to have. To be honest, I feel dirty everytime I use it though. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 3:19 PM Subject: Re: [flexcoders] PLEASE: Could someone at Adobe/Macromedia do a Carnigorm Video Intro. I'll send you a copy. On another note, I was looking at the ViewLocator/ViewHelper code and I found myself wondering how to implement it. It's not that the theory isn't sound, I'm sure it is - just try to find some simple working examples. Anyone out there have some simple Cairngorm2 ViewLocator examples? Steve Webster had mentioned to me that the ModelLocator can handle all the work that the ViewLocator/ViewHelper is intended to do, so perhaps they are not necessary. Thoughts? Darren Houle To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: [flexcoders] PLEASE: Could someone at Adobe/Macromedia do a Carnigorm flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Video Intro. 04/26/2006 11:10 AM Please respond to flexcoders Hey Michael Any chance I could get that from you too? I've found the available Cg2 examples out there somewhat lacking... the 6 part article talks about and uses Cg.99, but I have F2B2 installed so I want to learn Cg2. The Cg2 CairngormLogin example has little documentation (not that it really does much anyway)... and there's a PhonesCairngorm2 example, but it's complex, uses Data Services, requires CF code, so... what I'd love to get my hands on would be a simple Cg2 example, one that has a couple simple RPC services to something like a public blog feed or a local XML data file, a couple VOs, a couple commands, a couple views, a couple controls. Nothing overly complicated and something with some healthy documentation (even inline comments would be fine.) Your example might not meet all those criteria, but that's totally okay, I'll take anything :-) Thanks! Darren From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] PLEASE: Could someone at Adobe/Macromedia do a Carnigorm Video Intro. Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 09:51:56 -0400 I have a very (very) simple sample app that I use to illustrate how to get the ball rolling with Cairngorm2 that I can send to you. It includes documentation on how to add your own dispatchEvent in step-by-step instructions. I'm not knocking the Cairngorm2 'Login' example, but I think that a 'hold-your-hand' example is helpful for those getting familiar with patterns. --- This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and erase this e-mail message immediately. --- -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links --- This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and erase this e-mail message immediately. --- -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexc
Re: [flexcoders] PLEASE: Could someone at Adobe/Macromedia do a Carnigorm Video Intro.
Got any examples of this Jester? On 4/26/06, JesterXL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you're an OOP, Cairngorm purist, sure. However, for those of use under extreme deadlines who have no problem tossing lofty ideals out the window, ViewLocator is a life saver. If there is a need to have some view tell another view not within the direct DisplayList to do something, it's a nice to have. To be honest, I feel dirty everytime I use it though. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 3:19 PM Subject: Re: [flexcoders] PLEASE: Could someone at Adobe/Macromedia do a Carnigorm Video Intro. I'll send you a copy. On another note, I was looking at the ViewLocator/ViewHelper code and I found myself wondering how to implement it. It's not that the theory isn't sound, I'm sure it is - just try to find some simple working examples. Anyone out there have some simple Cairngorm2 ViewLocator examples? Steve Webster had mentioned to me that the ModelLocator can handle all the work that the ViewLocator/ViewHelper is intended to do, so perhaps they are not necessary. Thoughts? Darren Houle To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: [flexcoders] PLEASE: Could someone at Adobe/Macromedia do a Carnigorm flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Video Intro. 04/26/2006 11:10 AM Please respond to flexcoders Hey Michael Any chance I could get that from you too? I've found the available Cg2 examples out there somewhat lacking... the 6 part article talks about and uses Cg.99, but I have F2B2 installed so I want to learn Cg2. The Cg2 CairngormLogin example has little documentation (not that it really does much anyway)... and there's a PhonesCairngorm2 example, but it's complex, uses Data Services, requires CF code, so... what I'd love to get my hands on would be a simple Cg2 example, one that has a couple simple RPC services to something like a public blog feed or a local XML data file, a couple VOs, a couple commands, a couple views, a couple controls. Nothing overly complicated and something with some healthy documentation (even inline comments would be fine.) Your example might not meet all those criteria, but that's totally okay, I'll take anything :-) Thanks! Darren From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] PLEASE: Could someone at Adobe/Macromedia do a Carnigorm Video Intro. Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 09:51:56 -0400 I have a very (very) simple sample app that I use to illustrate how to get the ball rolling with Cairngorm2 that I can send to you. It includes documentation on how to add your own dispatchEvent in step-by-step instructions. I'm not knocking the Cairngorm2 'Login' example, but I think that a 'hold-your-hand' example is helpful for those getting familiar with patterns. --- This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and erase this e-mail message immediately. --- -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links --- This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and erase this e-mail message immediately. --- -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files
Re: [flexcoders] PLEASE: Could someone at Adobe/Macromedia do a Carnigorm Video Intro.
In Cairngorm 1 or 2? - Original Message - From: Jonathan Miranda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 5:35 PM Subject: Re: [flexcoders] PLEASE: Could someone at Adobe/Macromedia do a Carnigorm Video Intro. Got any examples of this Jester? On 4/26/06, JesterXL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you're an OOP, Cairngorm purist, sure. However, for those of use under extreme deadlines who have no problem tossing lofty ideals out the window, ViewLocator is a life saver. If there is a need to have some view tell another view not within the direct DisplayList to do something, it's a nice to have. To be honest, I feel dirty everytime I use it though. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 3:19 PM Subject: Re: [flexcoders] PLEASE: Could someone at Adobe/Macromedia do a Carnigorm Video Intro. I'll send you a copy. On another note, I was looking at the ViewLocator/ViewHelper code and I found myself wondering how to implement it. It's not that the theory isn't sound, I'm sure it is - just try to find some simple working examples. Anyone out there have some simple Cairngorm2 ViewLocator examples? Steve Webster had mentioned to me that the ModelLocator can handle all the work that the ViewLocator/ViewHelper is intended to do, so perhaps they are not necessary. Thoughts? Darren Houle To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: [flexcoders] PLEASE: Could someone at Adobe/Macromedia do a Carnigorm flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Video Intro. 04/26/2006 11:10 AM Please respond to flexcoders Hey Michael Any chance I could get that from you too? I've found the available Cg2 examples out there somewhat lacking... the 6 part article talks about and uses Cg.99, but I have F2B2 installed so I want to learn Cg2. The Cg2 CairngormLogin example has little documentation (not that it really does much anyway)... and there's a PhonesCairngorm2 example, but it's complex, uses Data Services, requires CF code, so... what I'd love to get my hands on would be a simple Cg2 example, one that has a couple simple RPC services to something like a public blog feed or a local XML data file, a couple VOs, a couple commands, a couple views, a couple controls. Nothing overly complicated and something with some healthy documentation (even inline comments would be fine.) Your example might not meet all those criteria, but that's totally okay, I'll take anything :-) Thanks! Darren From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] PLEASE: Could someone at Adobe/Macromedia do a Carnigorm Video Intro. Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 09:51:56 -0400 I have a very (very) simple sample app that I use to illustrate how to get the ball rolling with Cairngorm2 that I can send to you. It includes documentation on how to add your own dispatchEvent in step-by-step instructions. I'm not knocking the Cairngorm2 'Login' example, but I think that a 'hold-your-hand' example is helpful for those getting familiar with patterns. --- This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and erase this e-mail message immediately. --- -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links --- This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and erase this e-mail message immediately
Re: [flexcoders] PLEASE: Could someone at Adobe/Macromedia do a Carnigorm Video Intro.
Let's be difficultboth! :) On 4/26/06, JesterXL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In Cairngorm 1 or 2? - Original Message - From: Jonathan Miranda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 5:35 PM Subject: Re: [flexcoders] PLEASE: Could someone at Adobe/Macromedia do a Carnigorm Video Intro. Got any examples of this Jester? On 4/26/06, JesterXL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you're an OOP, Cairngorm purist, sure. However, for those of use under extreme deadlines who have no problem tossing lofty ideals out the window, ViewLocator is a life saver. If there is a need to have some view tell another view not within the direct DisplayList to do something, it's a nice to have. To be honest, I feel dirty everytime I use it though. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 3:19 PM Subject: Re: [flexcoders] PLEASE: Could someone at Adobe/Macromedia do a Carnigorm Video Intro. I'll send you a copy. On another note, I was looking at the ViewLocator/ViewHelper code and I found myself wondering how to implement it. It's not that the theory isn't sound, I'm sure it is - just try to find some simple working examples. Anyone out there have some simple Cairngorm2 ViewLocator examples? Steve Webster had mentioned to me that the ModelLocator can handle all the work that the ViewLocator/ViewHelper is intended to do, so perhaps they are not necessary. Thoughts? Darren Houle To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: [flexcoders] PLEASE: Could someone at Adobe/Macromedia do a Carnigorm flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Video Intro. 04/26/2006 11:10 AM Please respond to flexcoders Hey Michael Any chance I could get that from you too? I've found the available Cg2 examples out there somewhat lacking... the 6 part article talks about and uses Cg.99, but I have F2B2 installed so I want to learn Cg2. The Cg2 CairngormLogin example has little documentation (not that it really does much anyway)... and there's a PhonesCairngorm2 example, but it's complex, uses Data Services, requires CF code, so... what I'd love to get my hands on would be a simple Cg2 example, one that has a couple simple RPC services to something like a public blog feed or a local XML data file, a couple VOs, a couple commands, a couple views, a couple controls. Nothing overly complicated and something with some healthy documentation (even inline comments would be fine.) Your example might not meet all those criteria, but that's totally okay, I'll take anything :-) Thanks! Darren From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] PLEASE: Could someone at Adobe/Macromedia do a Carnigorm Video Intro. Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 09:51:56 -0400 I have a very (very) simple sample app that I use to illustrate how to get the ball rolling with Cairngorm2 that I can send to you. It includes documentation on how to add your own dispatchEvent in step-by-step instructions. I'm not knocking the Cairngorm2 'Login' example, but I think that a 'hold-your-hand' example is helpful for those getting familiar with patterns. --- This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and erase this e-mail message immediately. --- -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links --- This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication
Re: [flexcoders] PLEASE: Could someone at Adobe/Macromedia do a Carnigorm Video Intro.
I took the ViewLocator class and modified it to take an Object rather than a ViewHelper. It seems to work in that all components, and their methods are reachable at any point in the application. I'm not sure if this is what was intended in Cairngorm, but it seems to greatly simplify our development (no one gets that dirty feeling). If you are interested, I can send you the class and examples. Jonathan Miranda To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: [flexcoders] PLEASE: Could someone at Adobe/Macromedia flexcoders@yahoogroups.com do a Carnigorm Video Intro. 04/26/2006 05:35 PM Please respond to flexcoders Got any examples of this Jester? On 4/26/06, JesterXL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you're an OOP, Cairngorm purist, sure. However, for those of use under extreme deadlines who have no problem tossing lofty ideals out the window, ViewLocator is a life saver. If there is a need to have some view tell another view not within the direct DisplayList to do something, it's a nice to have. To be honest, I feel dirty everytime I use it though. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 3:19 PM Subject: Re: [flexcoders] PLEASE: Could someone at Adobe/Macromedia do a Carnigorm Video Intro. I'll send you a copy. On another note, I was looking at the ViewLocator/ViewHelper code and I found myself wondering how to implement it. It's not that the theory isn't sound, I'm sure it is - just try to find some simple working examples. Anyone out there have some simple Cairngorm2 ViewLocator examples? Steve Webster had mentioned to me that the ModelLocator can handle all the work that the ViewLocator/ViewHelper is intended to do, so perhaps they are not necessary. Thoughts? Darren Houle To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: [flexcoders] PLEASE: Could someone at Adobe/Macromedia do a Carnigorm flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Video Intro. 04/26/2006 11:10 AM Please respond to flexcoders Hey Michael Any chance I could get that from you too? I've found the available Cg2 examples out there somewhat lacking... the 6 part article talks about and uses Cg.99, but I have F2B2 installed so I want to learn Cg2. The Cg2 CairngormLogin example has little documentation (not that it really does much anyway)... and there's a PhonesCairngorm2 example, but it's complex, uses Data Services, requires CF code, so... what I'd love to get my hands on would be a simple Cg2 example, one that has a couple simple RPC services to something like a public blog feed or a local XML data file, a couple VOs, a couple commands, a couple views, a couple controls. Nothing overly complicated and something with some healthy documentation (even inline comments would be fine.) Your example might not meet all those criteria, but that's totally okay, I'll take anything :-) Thanks! Darren From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] PLEASE: Could someone at Adobe/Macromedia do a Carnigorm Video Intro. Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 09:51:56 -0400 I have a very (very) simple sample app that I use to illustrate how to get the ball rolling with Cairngorm2 that I can send to you. It includes documentation on how to add your own dispatchEvent in step-by-step instructions. I'm not knocking the Cairngorm2 'Login' example, but I think that a 'hold-your-hand' example is helpful for those getting familiar with patterns. --- This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and erase this e-mail message immediately. --- -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links --- This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary
Re: [flexcoders] PLEASE: Could someone at Adobe/Macromedia do a Carnigorm Video Intro.
In 1, the peeps I've worked with have done the same thing. We do not use
ViewHelpers. We've basically built our own version of ViewLocator. The
Cairngorm 1 version took a ViewHelper ID usually whereas we just pass in the
View's id name with a reference. So:
?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8?
mx:Panel
creationComplete=onMyPanelCreationComplete()
unload=onUnloaded()
xmlns:mx=http://www.macromedia.com/2003/mxml
mx:Script
![CDATA[
import ViewLocatorX;
function onMyPanelCreationComplete()
{
ViewLocatorX.registerComponentByID(this.id, this);
}
function onUnloaded()
{
ViewLocatorX.unregisterComponentByID(this.id, this);
}
/mx:Panel
So, when she's loaded up, the ViewLocator has a reference to it. You can
pass in a string name to access it. Pretty flexible using a string, but
dangerous unless you put those globally accessible views names in a
constant class somewhere. Example:
class ViewNameConstants
{
public static var LOGIN_PANEL:String = loginPanel;
}
That way, when you do this:
view:LoginPanel id=loginPanel xmlns:view=* /
As long as you don't have deferred instantiation on, you can do:
var loginPanel = ViewLocator.getComponentByID (
ViewNameConstants.LOGIN_PANEL );
loginPanel.doLogin();
Cairngorm purists would be strong proponents of binding the LoginPanel to a
state variable, and modifying that state variable in a Command. The
LoginPanel could then have one of its bindings fire, and thus call that
method.
However, until recently, we didn't have the ability to support Command
callbacks. As such we had a log of views that needed to know when their
data was ready. For display it's pretty easy; you just bind your DataGrid
to an array; poof, your done. But for more advanced scenarios when you need
to act upon that data, without knowledge of when a command is done (or some
other dataservice specific event), you start ending up with a plethora of
state variables. To me, that's an f'ing nightmare. Flex is already event
based, and it's built into the player in Flash Player 9, so why not use
events?
Cairngorm originally didn't support callbacks, but it's trivial to add. As
such, I still have instances where I use a ViewLocator (albeit 3 if I
remember correctly within a huge code base) where I need to call a method on
another view. I don't like doing it, but still view it as a valid solution.
I akin it to Singleton vs. Memento. You see many many cases of Singleton
being used, and it generally accepted practice to utilize Singletons. Not
many people use, nor talk about, Memento. It's still a valid pattern to
solve problems though. ViewLocator, to me, just has a hack feeling to it,
but I'd be hard pressed to live without it.
Cairngorm 2? Basically same thing. You're ViewLocator would work about the
same in both instances:
package
{
public class ViewLocator
{
protected var components_hash:Object;
public function registerComponentByID ( p_id:String,
p_ref:UIComponent):void
{
components_hash[p_id] = p_ref;
}
}
}
Pseudo code, but you get the point.
- Original Message -
From: Jonathan Miranda [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 5:51 PM
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] PLEASE: Could someone at Adobe/Macromedia do a
Carnigorm Video Intro.
Let's be difficultboth! :)
On 4/26/06, JesterXL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In Cairngorm 1 or 2?
- Original Message -
From: Jonathan Miranda [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 5:35 PM
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] PLEASE: Could someone at Adobe/Macromedia do a
Carnigorm Video Intro.
Got any examples of this Jester?
On 4/26/06, JesterXL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you're an OOP, Cairngorm purist, sure. However, for those of use
under
extreme deadlines who have no problem tossing lofty ideals out the
window,
ViewLocator is a life saver. If there is a need to have some view tell
another view not within the direct DisplayList to do something, it's a
nice
to have. To be honest, I feel dirty everytime I use it though.
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] PLEASE: Could someone at Adobe/Macromedia do a
Carnigorm Video Intro.
I'll send you a copy.
On another note, I was looking at the ViewLocator/ViewHelper code and I
found myself wondering how to implement it. It's not that the theory
isn't
sound, I'm sure it is - just try to find some simple working examples.
Anyone out there have some simple Cairngorm2 ViewLocator examples?
Steve
Webster had mentioned to me that the ModelLocator can handle all the
work
that the ViewLocator/ViewHelper is intended to do, so perhaps they are
not
necessary. Thoughts?
Darren Houle To:
flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:
Sent by: Subject: Re:
[flexcoders]
PLEASE: Could
Re: [flexcoders] PLEASE: Could someone at Adobe/Macromedia do a Carnigorm Video Intro.
Good stuff Jester, maybe I'll have to give the ViewHelper more of a
lookas some said, I've cheapened the use of the ModelLocator for a
lot of this - but most of my work is exclusively in Flex2 so I haven't
dealt with your callback issues.
Thanks for the code.dont mind me, going to take a nap to try and
forget you saying you used 3 ViewLocators (my god man!)
On 4/26/06, JesterXL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In 1, the peeps I've worked with have done the same thing. We do not use
ViewHelpers. We've basically built our own version of ViewLocator. The
Cairngorm 1 version took a ViewHelper ID usually whereas we just pass in the
View's id name with a reference. So:
?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8?
mx:Panel
creationComplete=onMyPanelCreationComplete()
unload=onUnloaded()
xmlns:mx=http://www.macromedia.com/2003/mxml
mx:Script
![CDATA[
import ViewLocatorX;
function onMyPanelCreationComplete()
{
ViewLocatorX.registerComponentByID(this.id, this);
}
function onUnloaded()
{
ViewLocatorX.unregisterComponentByID(this.id, this);
}
/mx:Panel
So, when she's loaded up, the ViewLocator has a reference to it. You can
pass in a string name to access it. Pretty flexible using a string, but
dangerous unless you put those globally accessible views names in a
constant class somewhere. Example:
class ViewNameConstants
{
public static var LOGIN_PANEL:String = loginPanel;
}
That way, when you do this:
view:LoginPanel id=loginPanel xmlns:view=* /
As long as you don't have deferred instantiation on, you can do:
var loginPanel = ViewLocator.getComponentByID (
ViewNameConstants.LOGIN_PANEL );
loginPanel.doLogin();
Cairngorm purists would be strong proponents of binding the LoginPanel to a
state variable, and modifying that state variable in a Command. The
LoginPanel could then have one of its bindings fire, and thus call that
method.
However, until recently, we didn't have the ability to support Command
callbacks. As such we had a log of views that needed to know when their
data was ready. For display it's pretty easy; you just bind your DataGrid
to an array; poof, your done. But for more advanced scenarios when you need
to act upon that data, without knowledge of when a command is done (or some
other dataservice specific event), you start ending up with a plethora of
state variables. To me, that's an f'ing nightmare. Flex is already event
based, and it's built into the player in Flash Player 9, so why not use
events?
Cairngorm originally didn't support callbacks, but it's trivial to add. As
such, I still have instances where I use a ViewLocator (albeit 3 if I
remember correctly within a huge code base) where I need to call a method on
another view. I don't like doing it, but still view it as a valid solution.
I akin it to Singleton vs. Memento. You see many many cases of Singleton
being used, and it generally accepted practice to utilize Singletons. Not
many people use, nor talk about, Memento. It's still a valid pattern to
solve problems though. ViewLocator, to me, just has a hack feeling to it,
but I'd be hard pressed to live without it.
Cairngorm 2? Basically same thing. You're ViewLocator would work about the
same in both instances:
package
{
public class ViewLocator
{
protected var components_hash:Object;
public function registerComponentByID ( p_id:String,
p_ref:UIComponent):void
{
components_hash[p_id] = p_ref;
}
}
}
Pseudo code, but you get the point.
- Original Message -
From: Jonathan Miranda [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 5:51 PM
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] PLEASE: Could someone at Adobe/Macromedia do a
Carnigorm Video Intro.
Let's be difficultboth! :)
On 4/26/06, JesterXL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In Cairngorm 1 or 2?
- Original Message -
From: Jonathan Miranda [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 5:35 PM
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] PLEASE: Could someone at Adobe/Macromedia do a
Carnigorm Video Intro.
Got any examples of this Jester?
On 4/26/06, JesterXL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you're an OOP, Cairngorm purist, sure. However, for those of use
under
extreme deadlines who have no problem tossing lofty ideals out the
window,
ViewLocator is a life saver. If there is a need to have some view tell
another view not within the direct DisplayList to do something, it's a
nice
to have. To be honest, I feel dirty everytime I use it though.
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] PLEASE: Could someone at Adobe/Macromedia do a
Carnigorm Video Intro.
I'll send you a copy.
On another note, I was looking at the ViewLocator/ViewHelper code and I
found myself wondering how to implement it. It's not that the theory
isn't
Re: [flexcoders] PLEASE: Could someone at Adobe/Macromedia do a Carnigorm Video Intro.
Just to clearify:
I use ViewLocator (the Singleton) only when I need to. I don't like it, but
still feel it has rare, but valid uses.
I do not use, nor promote the use of ViewHelper's. I think they are evil,
nasty, and just plain f'd up.
I've only used ViewLocator.getComponentByID(name).someMethod() 3 times
because there was 1 View that is immensely popular in my app, but already
has enough state stuff going on, the last thing I want is nother state
variable to keep track of.
Don't forget, you can make more than 1 ModelLocator; just depends on the
scope of your app really and what data you are really putting there.
- Original Message -
From: Jonathan Miranda [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 6:39 PM
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] PLEASE: Could someone at Adobe/Macromedia do a
Carnigorm Video Intro.
Good stuff Jester, maybe I'll have to give the ViewHelper more of a
lookas some said, I've cheapened the use of the ModelLocator for a
lot of this - but most of my work is exclusively in Flex2 so I haven't
dealt with your callback issues.
Thanks for the code.dont mind me, going to take a nap to try and
forget you saying you used 3 ViewLocators (my god man!)
On 4/26/06, JesterXL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In 1, the peeps I've worked with have done the same thing. We do not use
ViewHelpers. We've basically built our own version of ViewLocator. The
Cairngorm 1 version took a ViewHelper ID usually whereas we just pass in
the
View's id name with a reference. So:
?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8?
mx:Panel
creationComplete=onMyPanelCreationComplete()
unload=onUnloaded()
xmlns:mx=http://www.macromedia.com/2003/mxml
mx:Script
![CDATA[
import ViewLocatorX;
function onMyPanelCreationComplete()
{
ViewLocatorX.registerComponentByID(this.id, this);
}
function onUnloaded()
{
ViewLocatorX.unregisterComponentByID(this.id, this);
}
/mx:Panel
So, when she's loaded up, the ViewLocator has a reference to it. You can
pass in a string name to access it. Pretty flexible using a string, but
dangerous unless you put those globally accessible views names in a
constant class somewhere. Example:
class ViewNameConstants
{
public static var LOGIN_PANEL:String = loginPanel;
}
That way, when you do this:
view:LoginPanel id=loginPanel xmlns:view=* /
As long as you don't have deferred instantiation on, you can do:
var loginPanel = ViewLocator.getComponentByID (
ViewNameConstants.LOGIN_PANEL );
loginPanel.doLogin();
Cairngorm purists would be strong proponents of binding the LoginPanel to
a
state variable, and modifying that state variable in a Command. The
LoginPanel could then have one of its bindings fire, and thus call that
method.
However, until recently, we didn't have the ability to support Command
callbacks. As such we had a log of views that needed to know when their
data was ready. For display it's pretty easy; you just bind your DataGrid
to an array; poof, your done. But for more advanced scenarios when you
need
to act upon that data, without knowledge of when a command is done (or
some
other dataservice specific event), you start ending up with a plethora of
state variables. To me, that's an f'ing nightmare. Flex is already event
based, and it's built into the player in Flash Player 9, so why not use
events?
Cairngorm originally didn't support callbacks, but it's trivial to add.
As
such, I still have instances where I use a ViewLocator (albeit 3 if I
remember correctly within a huge code base) where I need to call a method
on
another view. I don't like doing it, but still view it as a valid
solution.
I akin it to Singleton vs. Memento. You see many many cases of Singleton
being used, and it generally accepted practice to utilize Singletons. Not
many people use, nor talk about, Memento. It's still a valid pattern to
solve problems though. ViewLocator, to me, just has a hack feeling to it,
but I'd be hard pressed to live without it.
Cairngorm 2? Basically same thing. You're ViewLocator would work about
the
same in both instances:
package
{
public class ViewLocator
{
protected var components_hash:Object;
public function registerComponentByID ( p_id:String,
p_ref:UIComponent):void
{
components_hash[p_id] = p_ref;
}
}
}
Pseudo code, but you get the point.
- Original Message -
From: Jonathan Miranda [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 5:51 PM
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] PLEASE: Could someone at Adobe/Macromedia do a
Carnigorm Video Intro.
Let's be difficultboth! :)
On 4/26/06, JesterXL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In Cairngorm 1 or 2?
- Original Message -
From: Jonathan Miranda [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 5:35 PM
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] PLEASE: Could someone at Adobe/Macromedia do a
Carnigorm Video Intro.
Got any
