Re: [flexcoders] Too many mistakes
Hi Michael, You are absolutely correct. Beta products are not production ready and they have mistakes. I am thinking to use the Flex charting in my application. I can see that Flex 2 is in beta and Flex 1.5 is prod stable but lack in features. Moreover, if I now invest time in Flex 1.5 there is complete re-design on actionscript and lot of other changes too. Is there any way by which we can start with Flex 2.0 without facing much trouble?I am a Java architect and for the first time I am looking at RIA like Flex or OL. Any comments regarding my problems will be strongly appriciated.Regards, SachinMichael Schmalle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi,Do you know what beta means? It means there are mistakes everywhere and they are cleaning them up.Besides, if you are going to use beta software, your mind has to be a problem solver from the start. You can't rely on examples, you have to experiment. There IS enough good examples and docs to get things to work.Peace, Mike On 3/29/06, snail [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:hello,everyone When I read the help content of Flex Builder 2 beta 2,I find many mistakes,such as use "Link" instead of "LinkButton" which is not exist in Flex 2. And the example code also make mistakes. When I follow the help,many errors occour. So boring. I am a beginner,I find flex 2 is not so good,at least, not easy to learn by read the help in which many mistakes. Will Adobe make it better ?--Flexcoders Mailing ListFAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txtSearch Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- What goes up, does come down. New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [flexcoders] Too many mistakes
Honestly, This beta 2 ROCKS! There are only things that you will need to to tweak down the road. I have created a full AS3/MXML documenter/renderer like JavaDOC inside Flex starting from the alpha release. Things are going great. My approach was; Build the application's logic and structure as we head through the beta stages. By the time my app model and algoritthms are out of beta for my app, Flex will be public and then I can focus on a 'bug free' UI implementation (this has changed recently due to some contests ;-). I know this dosn't suite a lot of developers but, it has worked this far for me. This beta2 release didn't mess me up at all becasue I am focusing on logic no the UI. Peace, MikeOn 3/29/06, Sachin Dharmapurikar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Michael, You are absolutely correct. Beta products are not production ready and they have mistakes. I am thinking to use the Flex charting in my application. I can see that Flex 2 is in beta and Flex 1.5 is prod stable but lack in features. Moreover, if I now invest time in Flex 1.5 there is complete re-design on actionscript and lot of other changes too. Is there any way by which we can start with Flex 2.0 without facing much trouble?I am a Java architect and for the first time I am looking at RIA like Flex or OL. Any comments regarding my problems will be strongly appriciated.Regards, Sachin Michael Schmalle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi,Do you know what beta means? It means there are mistakes everywhere and they are cleaning them up.Besides, if you are going to use beta software, your mind has to be a problem solver from the start. You can't rely on examples, you have to experiment. There IS enough good examples and docs to get things to work.Peace, Mike On 3/29/06, snail [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello,everyone When I read the help content of Flex Builder 2 beta 2,I find many mistakes,such as use Link instead of LinkButton which is not exist in Flex 2. And the example code also make mistakes. When I follow the help,many errors occour. So boring. I am a beginner,I find flex 2 is not so good,at least, not easy to learn by read the help in which many mistakes. Will Adobe make it better ?--Flexcoders Mailing ListFAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txtSearch Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group flexcoders on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- What goes up, does come down. New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group flexcoders on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- What goes up, does come down. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [flexcoders] Too many mistakes
Mike, I have to second that. Im in exactly the same position. Concentrate on the backend and front end non UI related architecture. Consider that any UI you do, do is prototyping to give you a feel for the app and allow you to test the other back end stuff. I have been working since flex 1.5 actually learned flex from 1.5 then when the alpha came out started getting my hands dirty. We are in line to release shortly after Flex goes public. The betas as far as betas go is freaking sweet. If that doesnt suit you then start learning the framework trial and error, experiment, etc.. My .02 Jason -Message d'origine-De: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]De la part de Michael SchmalleEnvoyé: mercredi 29 mars 2006 16:59À: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comObjet: Re: [flexcoders] Too many mistakesHonestly,This beta 2 ROCKS!There are only things that you will need to to tweak down the road. I have created a full AS3/MXML documenter/renderer like JavaDOC inside Flex starting from the alpha release. Things are going great. My approach was;Build the application's logic and structure as we head through the beta stages. By the time my app model and algoritthms are out of beta for my app, Flex will be public and then I can focus on a 'bug free' UI implementation (this has changed recently due to some contests ;-).I know this dosn't suite a lot of developers but, it has worked this far for me. This beta2 release didn't mess me up at all becasue I am focusing on logic no the UI.Peace, Mike On 3/29/06, Sachin Dharmapurikar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Michael, You are absolutely correct. Beta products are not production ready and they have mistakes. I am thinking to use the Flex charting in my application. I can see that Flex 2 is in beta and Flex 1.5 is prod stable but lack in features. Moreover, if I now invest time in Flex 1.5 there is complete re-design on actionscript and lot of other changes too. Is there any way by which we can start with Flex 2.0 without facing much trouble? I am a Java architect and for the first time I am looking at RIA like Flex or OL. Any comments regarding my problems will be strongly appriciated. Regards, Sachin Michael Schmalle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi,Do you know what beta means? It means there are mistakes everywhere and they are cleaning them up.Besides, if you are going to use beta software, your mind has to be a problem solver from the start. You can't rely on examples, you have to experiment. There IS enough good examples and docs to get things to work.Peace, Mike On 3/29/06, snail [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello,everyone When I read the help content of Flex Builder 2 beta 2,I find many mistakes,such as use "Link" instead of "LinkButton" which is not exist in Flex 2. And the example code also make mistakes. When I follow the help,many errors occour. So boring. I am a beginner,I find flex 2 is not so good,at least, not easy to learn by read the help in which many mistakes. Will Adobe make it better ?--Flexcoders Mailing ListFAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txtSearch Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group " flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- What goes up, does come down. New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. --Flexcoders Mailing ListFAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txtSearch Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- What goes up,
Re: [flexcoders] Too many mistakes
Actually, LinkButton does exist! (Not Link).ScottOn 3/29/06, snail [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello,everyone When I read the help content of Flex Builder 2 beta 2,I find many mistakes,such as use Link instead of LinkButton which is not exist in Flex 2. And the example code also make mistakes. When I follow the help,many errors occour. So boring. I am a beginner,I find flex 2 is not so good,at least, not easy to learn by read the help in which many mistakes. Will Adobe make it better ? -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group flexcoders on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- : : ) Scott -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [flexcoders] Too many mistakes
hi Snail, i would like to share my experience my experiencewas same as u described earlier ...but then after i have decided to take help from the other resources. Flex coder yahoo group is the best i think, also other master developer's blog helped me a lot and still helping and i am leaning from that advanced developer's articles. so flex is not boaring if u go this way, I hope u can understand, just sharing my experience coz i have started learning flex from Flex-2 alfa itself no prior experience or knowledge and i got extreme interest in flex now... Just don't depend on the flex help documentation.. hope this will help u to create interest... Best of luck Jignesh Dodiya On 3/29/06, Sachin Dharmapurikar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Michael, You are absolutely correct. Beta products are not production ready and they have mistakes. I am thinking to use the Flex charting in my application. I can see that Flex 2 is in beta and Flex 1.5 is prod stable but lack in features. Moreover, if I now invest time in Flex 1.5 there is complete re-design on actionscript and lot of other changes too. Is there any way by which we can start with Flex 2.0 without facing much trouble? I am a Java architect and for the first time I am looking at RIA like Flex or OL. Any comments regarding my problems will be strongly appriciated. Regards, Sachin Michael Schmalle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi,Do you know what beta means? It means there are mistakes everywhere and they are cleaning them up.Besides, if you are going to use beta software, your mind has to be a problem solver from the start. You can't rely on examples, you have to experiment. There IS enough good examples and docs to get things to work. Peace, Mike On 3/29/06, snail [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello,everyone When I read the help content of Flex Builder 2 beta 2,I find many mistakes,such as use Link instead of LinkButton which is not exist in Flex 2. And the example code also make mistakes. When I follow the help,many errors occour. So boring. I am a beginner,I find flex 2 is not so good,at least, not easy to learn by read the help in which many mistakes. Will Adobe make it better ?--Flexcoders Mailing ListFAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txtSearch Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group flexcoders on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- What goes up, does come down. New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. --Flexcoders Mailing ListFAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txtSearch Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group flexcoders on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- jignesh dodiya -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [flexcoders] Too many mistakes
Guys, as I said earlier we are planning to integrate charting with our application.We are using very scalable J2EE platform for backend logic. Our architecture is as follows -DB - J2EE(Servlets Classes) - XML to Browser - XSLT for presentationI am unhappy with the presentation tier. We are doing same old HTML presentation for our app. I tried to make it little rich by Ajaxifying it. Hardly it could add much value to it. But ajax raised few more problems like handelling server responses at other complexities.So here I want to put the Flash in presentation tier which will have little business logic and good charting capability to complement my other text data.One more thing I noticed is, when I compile a very small application also like simple label and button, the size of generated file is ~345K, and when browser renders, it leaves about 40M footprint. Is this grows linerly along with complexity in UI?Now I am on verge to make a decision to take in/out Flex. Please shed some light. So far you guys were great!Thanks, SachinJason Hawryluk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Mike, I have to second that. Im in exactly the same position. Concentrate on the backend and front end non UI related architecture. Consider that any UI you do, do is prototyping to give you a feel for the app and allow you to test the other back end stuff. I have been working since flex 1.5 actually learned flex from 1.5 then when the alpha came out started getting my hands dirty. We are in line to release shortly after Flex goes public. The betas as far as betas go is freaking sweet.If that doesnt suit you then start learning the framework trial and error, experiment, etc..My .02 Jason-Message d'origine-De: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]De la part de Michael SchmalleEnvoyé: mercredi 29 mars 2006 16:59À: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comObjet: Re: [flexcoders] Too many mistakesHonestly,This beta 2 ROCKS!There are only things that you will need to to tweak down the road. I have created a full AS3/MXML documenter/renderer like JavaDOC inside Flex starting from the alpha release. Things are going great. My approach was;Build the application's logic and structure as we head through the beta stages. By the time my app model and algoritthms are out of beta for my app, Flex will be public and then I can focus on a 'bug free' UI implementation (this has changed recently due to some contests ;-).I know this dosn't suite a lot of developers but, it has worked this far for me. This beta2 release didn't mess me up at all becasue I am focusing on logic no the UI.Peace, Mike On 3/29/06, Sachin Dharmapurikar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Michael, You are absolutely correct. Beta products are not production ready and they have mistakes. I am thinking to use the Flex charting in my application. I can see that Flex 2 is in beta and Flex 1.5 is prod stable but lack in features. Moreover, if I now invest time in Flex 1.5 there is complete re-design on actionscript and lot of other changes too. Is there any way by which we can start with Flex 2.0 without facing much trouble?I am a Java architect and for the first time I am looking at RIA like Flex or OL. Any comments regarding my problems will be strongly appriciated.Regards, Sachin Michael Schmalle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi,Do you know what beta means? It means there are mistakes everywhere and they are cleaning them up.Besides, if you are going to use beta software, your mind has to be a problem solver from the start. You can't rely on examples, you have to experiment. There IS enough good examples and docs to get things to work.Peace, Mike On 3/29/06, snail [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello,everyone When I read the help content of Flex Builder 2 beta 2,I find many mistakes,such as use "Link" instead of "LinkButton" which is not exist in Flex 2. And the example code also make mistakes. When I follow the help,many errors occour. So boring. I am a beginner,I find flex 2 is not so good,at least, not easy to learn by read the help in which many mistakes. Will Adobe make it better ?--Flexcoders Mailing ListFAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txtSearch Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group " flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- What goes up, does come down. New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. --Flexcoders Mailing ListFAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txtSearch Archives:
RE: [flexcoders] Too many mistakes
About the size, it's beta, so the compiler has not been optimized. Newt I would not base my ultimate decision of using or not using a product by looking at a beta quality product. 40mb is nothing as far as foot print IMHO (IE + yahoo loaded =20mb) The size could also depend on your return xml file size. If your app is to be user centric, and largely based on interaction design as your comment suggests, then Flex 2.0 is the best solution. Works across browsers with no extra code (= less maintenance and dev time) that alone beats Ajax hands down again IMHO (insert hundreds more here). hope this helps Jason -Message d'origine-De: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]De la part de Sachin DharmapurikarEnvoyé: mercredi 29 mars 2006 17:52À: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comObjet: RE: [flexcoders] Too many mistakes Guys, as I said earlier we are planning to integrate charting with our application. We are using very scalable J2EE platform for backend logic. Our architecture is as follows - DB - J2EE(Servlets Classes) - XML to Browser - XSLT for presentation I am unhappy with the presentation tier. We are doing same old HTML presentation for our app. I tried to make it little rich by Ajaxifying it. Hardly it could add much value to it. But ajax raised few more problems like handelling server responses at other complexities. So here I want to put the Flash in presentation tier which will have little business logic and good charting capability to complement my other text data. One more thing I noticed is, when I compile a very small application also like simple label and button, the size of generated file is ~345K,! and when browser renders, it leaves about 40M footprint. Is this grows linerly along with complexity in UI? Now I am on verge to make a decision to take in/out Flex. Please shed some light. So far you guys were great! Thanks, SachinJason Hawryluk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike, I have to second that. Im in exactly the same position. Concentrate on the backend and front end non UI related architecture. Consider that any UI you do, do is prototyping to give you a feel for the app and allow you to test the other back end stuff. I have been working since flex 1.5 actually learned flex from 1.5 then when the alpha came out started getting my hands dirty! . We are in line to release shortly after Flex goes public. The betas as far as betas go is freaking sweet. If that doesnt suit you then start learning the framework trial and error, experiment, etc.. My .02 Jason -Message d'origine-De: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]De la part de Michael SchmalleEnvoyé: mercredi 29 mars 2006 16:59À: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comObjet: Re: [flexcoders] Too many mistakesHonestly,This beta 2 ROCKS!There are only things that you will need to to tweak down the road. I have created a full AS3/MXML documenter/renderer like JavaDOC inside Flex starting from the alpha release. Things are going great. My approach was;Build the application's logic and structure as we head through the beta stages. By the time my app model and algoritthms are out of beta for my app, Flex will be public and then I can focus on a 'bug free' UI implementation (this has changed recently due to some contests ;-).I know this dosn't suite a lo! t of developers but, it has worked this far for me. This beta2 release didn't mess me up at all becasue I am focusing on logic no the UI.Peace, Mike On 3/29/06, Sachin Dharmapurikar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Michael, You are absolutely correct. Beta products are not production ready and they have mistakes. I am thinking to use the Flex charting in my application. I can see that Flex 2 is in beta and Flex 1.5 is prod stable but lack in features. Moreover, if I now invest time in Flex 1.5 there is complete re-design on actionscript and lot of other changes too. Is! there any way by which we can start with Flex 2.0 without facing much trouble? I am a Java architect and for the first time I am looking at RIA like Flex or OL. Any comments regarding my problems will be strongly appriciated. Regards, Sachin Michael Schmalle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi,Do you know what beta means? It means there are mista! kes everywhere and they are cleaning them up.Besides, if you are going to use beta software, your mind has to be a problem solver from the start. You can't rely on examples, you have to experiment
RE: [flexcoders] Too many mistakes
1) make sure you're looking at the release swf size, both on disk and in memory, not the debug swf 2) it does not grow linearly with the complexity of the UI, but rather with the number of definitions you pull in. Building a flex app brings in a core set of definitions. Each new _type_ of control adds to that linkage set, while each new _usage_ of the same control only adds trivial overhead. So while there's a big hit up front to get the framework, after that it's incremental additions Ely. From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason HawrylukSent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 8:21 AMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] Too many mistakes About the size, it's beta, so the compiler has not been optimized. Newt I would not base my ultimate decision of using or not using a product by looking at a beta quality product. 40mb is nothing as far as foot print IMHO (IE + yahoo loaded =20mb) The size could also depend on your return xml file size. If your app is to be user centric, and largely based on interaction design as your comment suggests, then Flex 2.0 is the best solution. Works across browsers with no extra code (= less maintenance and dev time) that alone beats Ajax hands down again IMHO (insert hundreds more here). hope this helps Jason -Message d'origine-De: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]De la part de Sachin DharmapurikarEnvoyé: mercredi 29 mars 2006 17:52À: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comObjet: RE: [flexcoders] Too many mistakes Guys, as I said earlier we are planning to integrate charting with our application. We are using very scalable J2EE platform for backend logic. Our architecture is as follows - DB - J2EE(Servlets Classes) - XML to Browser - XSLT for presentation I am unhappy with the presentation tier. We are doing same old HTML presentation for our app. I tried to make it little rich by Ajaxifying it. Hardly it could add much value to it. But ajax raised few more problems like handelling server responses at other complexities. So here I want to put the Flash in presentation tier which will have little business logic and good charting capability to complement my other text data. One more thing I noticed is, when I compile a very small application also like simple label and button, the size of generated file is ~345K,! and when browser renders, it leaves about 40M footprint. Is this grows linerly along with complexity in UI? Now I am on verge to make a decision to take in/out Flex. Please shed some light. So far you guys were great! Thanks, SachinJason Hawryluk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike, I have to second that. Im in exactly the same position. Concentrate on the backend and front end non UI related architecture. Consider that any UI you do, do is prototyping to give you a feel for the app and allow you to test the other back end stuff. I have been working since flex 1.5 actually learned flex from 1.5 then when the alpha came out started getting my hands dirty! . We are in line to release shortly after Flex goes public. The betas as far as betas go is freaking sweet. If that doesnt suit you then start learning the framework trial and error, experiment, etc.. My .02 Jason -Message d'origine-De: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]De la part de Michael SchmalleEnvoyé: mercredi 29 mars 2006 16:59À: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comObjet: Re: [flexcoders] Too many mistakesHonestly,This beta 2 ROCKS!There are only things that you will need to to tweak down the road. I have created a full AS3/MXML documenter/renderer like JavaDOC inside Flex starting from the alpha release. Things are going great. My approach was;Build the application's logic and structure as we head through the beta stages. By the time my app model and algoritthms are out of beta for my app, Flex will be public and then I can focus on a 'bug free' UI implementation (this has changed recently due to some contests ;-).I know this dosn't suite a lo! t of developers but, it has worked this far for me. This beta2 release didn't mess me up at all becasue I am focusing on logic no the UI.Peace, Mike On 3/29/06, Sachin Dharmapurikar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Michael, You are absolutely correct. Beta products are not production ready and they have mistakes. I am thinking to use the Flex charting in my application. I can see that Flex 2 is in beta and Flex 1.5 is prod stable but lack in features. Moreover, if I now invest time in Flex 1.5 there is complete re-design on actionscript and lot of other changes
Re: [flexcoders] Too many mistakes
Make sure to check out the beta 1 to migration document: http://labs.macromedia.com/wiki/index.php/Flex:Beta_1_to_Beta_2_Changes It covers some of the issues you mentioned. mike chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sachin Dharmapurikar wrote: Hi Michael, You are absolutely correct. Beta products are not production ready and they have mistakes. I am thinking to use the Flex charting in my application. I can see that Flex 2 is in beta and Flex 1.5 is prod stable but lack in features. Moreover, if I now invest time in Flex 1.5 there is complete re-design on actionscript and lot of other changes too. Is there any way by which we can start with Flex 2.0 without facing much trouble? I am a Java architect and for the first time I am looking at RIA like Flex or OL. Any comments regarding my problems will be strongly appriciated. Regards, Sachin */Michael Schmalle [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: Hi, Do you know what beta means? It means! there are mistakes everywhere and they are cleaning them up. Besides, if you are going to use beta software, your mind has to be a problem solver from the start. You can't rely on examples, you have to experiment. There IS enough good examples and docs to get things to work. Peace, Mike On 3/29/06, *snail* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello,everyone When I read the help content of Flex Builder 2 beta 2,I find many mistakes,such as use Link instead of LinkButton which is not exist in Flex 2. And the example code also make mistakes. When I follow the help,many errors occour. So boring. I am a beginner,I find flex 2 is not so good,at least, not easy to learn by read t! he help in which many mistakes. Will Adobe make it better ? -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Web+site+design+developmentw1=Web+site+design+developmentw2=Computer+software+developmentw3=Software+design+and+developmentw4=Macromedia+flexw5=Software+development+best+practicec=5s=166.sig=L-4QTvxB_quFDtMyhrQaHQ Computer software development http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Computer+software+developmentw1=Web+site+design+developmentw2=Computer+software+developmentw3=Software+design+and+developmentw4=Macromedia+flexw5=Software+development+best+practicec=5s=166.sig=lvQjSRfQDfWudJSe1lLjHw Software design and development http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Software+design+and+developmentw1=Web+site+design+developmentw2=Computer+software+developmentw3=Software+design+and+developmentw4=Macromedia+flexw5=Software+development+best+practicec=5s=166.sig=1pMBCdo3DsJbuU9AEmO1oQ Macromedia flex http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Macromedia+flexw1=Web+site+design+developmentw2=Computer+software+developmentw3=Software+design+and+developmentw4=Macromedia+flexw5=Software+development+best+practicec=5s=166.sig=OO6nPIrz7_EpZI36cYzBjw Software development best practice http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Software+development+best+practicew1=Web+site+design+developmentw2=Computer+software+developmentw3=Software+design+and+developmentw4=Macromedia+flexw5=Software+development+best+practicec=5s=166.sig=f89quyyulIDsnABLD6IXIw YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group flexcoders http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. -- What goes up, does come down. New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/taglines/postman5/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=39666/*http://beta.messenger.yahoo.com and save big. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development
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It looks like we didn't catch all of the API changes between Beta 1 and Beta 2. We will try to make it better for the next release. Matthew J. Horn Flex docs -Original Message- From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of snail Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 2:16 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Too many mistakes hello,everyone When I read the help content of Flex Builder 2 beta 2,I find many mistakes,such as use Link instead of LinkButton which is not exist in Flex 2. And the example code also make mistakes. When I follow the help,many errors occour. So boring. I am a beginner,I find flex 2 is not so good,at least, not easy to learn by read the help in which many mistakes. Will Adobe make it better ? -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Jignesh Dodiya， Thank you very much. I didn't depend on the flex help documentation.But there are few documentation for the beginners except the help. ButI will focus on other resource. Thank everyone!!! 2006-03-2923:35:47 hi Snail, i would like to share my experience my experiencewas same as u described earlier ...but then after i have decided to take help from the other resources. Flex coder yahoo group is the best i think, also other master developer's blog helped me a lot and still helping and i am leaning from that advanced developer's articles. so flex is not boaring if u go this way, I hope u can understand, just sharing my experience coz i have started learning flex from Flex-2 alfa itself no prior experience or knowledge and i got extreme interest in flex now... Just don't depend on the flex help documentation.. hope this will help u to create interest... Best of luck Jignesh Dodiya On 3/29/06, Sachin Dharmapurikar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Michael, You are absolutely correct. Beta products are not production ready and they have mistakes. I am thinking to use the Flex charting in my application. I can see that Flex 2 is in beta and Flex 1.5 is prod stable but lack in features. Moreover, if I now invest time in Flex 1.5 there is complete re-design on actionscript and lot of other changes too. Is there any way by which we can start with Flex 2.0 without facing much trouble? I am a Java architect and for the first time I am looking at RIA like Flex or OL. Any comments regarding my problems will be strongly appriciated. Regards, Sachin Michael Schmalle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi,Do you know what beta means? It means there are mistakes everywhere and they are cleaning them up.Besides, if you are going to use beta software, your mind has to be a problem solver from the start. You can't rely on examples, you have to experiment. There IS enough good examples and docs to get things to work. Peace, Mike On 3/29/06, snail [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello,everyone When I read the help content of Flex Builder 2 beta 2,I find many mistakes,such as use "Link" instead of "LinkButton" which is not exist in Flex 2. And the example code also make mistakes. When I follow the help,many errors occour. So boring. I am a beginner,I find flex 2 is not so good,at least, not easy to learn by read the help in which many mistakes. Will Adobe make it better ?--Flexcoders Mailing ListFAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txtSearch Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- What goes up, does come down. New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. --Flexcoders Mailing ListFAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txtSearch Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice
