[Flexradio] Tomorrow's the Day.

2006-11-03 Thread John Basilotto
Tomorrow at 11 AM CST [Noon on the east coast, 9 AM on the west coast, 1700
UTC.]on TEAMSPEAK.

Quick start guide for getting setup for Teamspeak:
http://kb.flex-radio.com/article.aspx?id=10161

We hope to see you there.



 Town hall meeting AGENDA


Agenda for the Saturday's Nov 4 Town Hall Meeting at 1700 UTC :
1. New official release of PowerSDR software for the SDR-1000 with review of
new features since v1.6.2.
2. Strategic software direction for new PowerSDR architecture and supporting
development tools.
3. New website and Knowledge Base overview
4. QA from previously emailed questions.

Please email questions directly to [EMAIL PROTECTED] as private emails so
they can be consolidated.  This will make for more efficient use of the
meeting time and will also result in better responses.
Question can also be posted on our forum at
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Re: [Flexradio] Hey Bob - IQ DC offset hooks

2006-11-03 Thread Jim Lux


You're correct!  No DC path to the QSD.  The carrier is coming from the
1/f noise near DC.
That will be taken care of when the TX IF gets implemented.

I don't think it has anything to do with 1/f noise.

TX IF won't fix it.

Let's for a moment assume that you're feeding in an 11 kHz tone 
through I/Q (phased so you generate the upper sideband..)  You'll get 
a nice carrier at DDS Freq+11 kHz, and if the image rejection is set 
up properly, a very small signal at DDS-11 kHz.  BUT, you'll also get 
feedthrough at DDS Freq, and there's nothing you can do about it with 
an AC coupled system, because the carrier feedthrough in the QSE is 
entirely determined by the balance of the 4 switches and the DC on 
their pins, the latter probably determined by leakage current of the 
electrolytic capacitors.

I looked at some measurements I made when I first got my SDR1000s at 
work and they all have some amount of leakage with the I/Q inputs 
grounded. In fact, I used this feature for a calibration signal, so 
I could tell the difference between errors due to the DDS and errors 
due to the sound card.

It *might* be that you can create a waveform for I/Q that will 
compensate for this.  After all, if the parts were ideal DC blocks, 
it wouldn't have the problem, so maybe putting a bias on the audio 
waveform will have an effect.


Jim, W6RMK 



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[Flexradio] SVN update issues

2006-11-03 Thread Robert McGwier
IF you get a conflict on the update of the Console directory (in the 
source),  you may simply delete that directory from your hard drive and 
svn will replace it.

If you get  a similar conflict on the bin directory  AFTER YOU HAVE 
SAVED YOUR DATABASE AND WISDOM FILE, simply delete the directory and 
allow svn to rebuild it.  Then move your wisdom file back into the 
bin/Release directory and import thte database.

I had to do this on two machines and NOT do it on two others.  I have no 
idea what they differences are but they are easily overcome.

Bob

-- 
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TAPR, Packrats, NJQRP, QRP ARCI, QCWA, FRC. ARRL SDR WG Chair
You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat.
You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los
Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly
the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there.
The only difference is that there is no cat. - Einstein


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Re: [Flexradio] Hey Bob - IQ DC offset hooks

2006-11-03 Thread Robert McGwier
This is correct and will be addressed when the TX IF gets addressed.

Bob



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Jim,
 You're correct!  No DC path to the QSD.  The carrier is coming from the
 1/f noise near DC.
 That will be taken care of when the TX IF gets implemented.

 73,
 John

 -Original Message-
 From: Jim Lux [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 11:39 PM
 To: Larry; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; flexradio@flex-radio.biz
 Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Hey Bob - IQ DC offset hooks

 At 08:08 PM 11/2/2006, Larry wrote:
   
 Bob,

 I have also been told of a significant carrier presence during SSB transmit.
 I have been trying to confirm this. I am also using a Delta 44 card.
 

 Unless the design has changed since the original, the sound card 
 won't make any difference, because of the AC coupling.  You're really 
 depending on the matching of the 22 uF capacitors, I think.  I would 
 expect the leakage current to be fairly well matched on the mux.

 A simple test.  Try putting a small DC voltage on just I or Q (using 
 a 10K pot and a battery, for instance) and see if you get more carrier.


   
 --Larry W8ER


 - Original Message -
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
 Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 9:09 PM
 Subject: [Flexradio] Hey Bob - IQ DC offset hooks


 
 Hi Bob,



 Is there a way to get at Tx IQ DC offsets in your code.  I couldn't fine
 any.



 Some of the SDR stations on the air have noticeable carrier present during
 SSB TX.



 Using a spectrum analyzer I've noticed that during TX image cancellation I
 can get the image

 20-30 db below the residual carrier!



 After thinking about this I decided to measure the output of my Delta 44
 sound card. It has offsets of

 -12.8mV on the I channel and -4.11mV on the Q.  I would imagine some cards
 are worse.



 It would be sweet to null the carrier another 1,000%.



 73,

 John

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TAPR, Packrats, NJQRP, QRP ARCI, QCWA, FRC. ARRL SDR WG Chair
You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat.
You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los
Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly
the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there.
The only difference is that there is no cat. - Einstein


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[Flexradio] SAM Lock

2006-11-03 Thread KA5MIR
Sorry to keep bringing this up, but...

  In the current console, SAM mode doesn't work well.  There is no hang time 
after a lock and with no signal or weak signals, you can hear the receive 
frequency fluttering constantly.  There is also no user adjustment for lock 
range or timing.

  I don't know if the folks who use SSB exclusively realize how important a 
feature SAM Lock is to us who SWL or enjoy AM.  It is a GREAT feature.  All 
the modern quality receivers have this capability.

  I would like to request that the SAM Lock feature in Jeff/K6JCA's console 
be merged into the current version.  The code is done.  His implementation 
WORKS WELL!  Why try to reinvent what Jeff has so graciously offered to us 
for free?

Thanks to the code maintainers for considering this request.

Jeff/KA5MIR


On Sunday 09 July 2006 14:35, Ken N9VV wrote:
 For those of you who may have missed it:

 today on the 14.329 Flex HF net John, W5GI (in reply to a question),
 announced that Flex has a collaborative effort underway with Jeff,
 K6JCA (ex-WA6AHL), to include the best features of Jeff's console in
 the standard distribution of the PowerSDR Console. Until the new
 software architecture 1.7 comes out in the future, many of Jeff's
 ideas will be incorporated in the current standard console display.

 T*H*A*N*K  Y*O*U  Jeff, John, Gerald, Eric, Bob, Frank, Ed and many
 others for listening to your customers.


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Re: [Flexradio] Hey Bob - IQ DC offset hooks

2006-11-03 Thread Robert McGwier
Ooops.  You are right.  If there is DC offset at the QSE,  it will be 
transmitted and amplified.

Jim Lux wrote:
 You're correct!  No DC path to the QSD.  The carrier is coming from the
 1/f noise near DC.
 That will be taken care of when the TX IF gets implemented.
 

 I don't think it has anything to do with 1/f noise.

 TX IF won't fix it.

 Let's for a moment assume that you're feeding in an 11 kHz tone 
 through I/Q (phased so you generate the upper sideband..)  You'll get 
 a nice carrier at DDS Freq+11 kHz, and if the image rejection is set 
 up properly, a very small signal at DDS-11 kHz.  BUT, you'll also get 
 feedthrough at DDS Freq, and there's nothing you can do about it with 
 an AC coupled system, because the carrier feedthrough in the QSE is 
 entirely determined by the balance of the 4 switches and the DC on 
 their pins, the latter probably determined by leakage current of the 
 electrolytic capacitors.

 I looked at some measurements I made when I first got my SDR1000s at 
 work and they all have some amount of leakage with the I/Q inputs 
 grounded. In fact, I used this feature for a calibration signal, so 
 I could tell the difference between errors due to the DDS and errors 
 due to the sound card.

 It *might* be that you can create a waveform for I/Q that will 
 compensate for this.  After all, if the parts were ideal DC blocks, 
 it wouldn't have the problem, so maybe putting a bias on the audio 
 waveform will have an effect.


 Jim, W6RMK 



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TAPR, Packrats, NJQRP, QRP ARCI, QCWA, FRC. ARRL SDR WG Chair
You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat.
You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los
Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly
the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there.
The only difference is that there is no cat. - Einstein


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Re: [Flexradio] PSK31 Delta 44

2006-11-03 Thread Robert McGwier
Phil Karn used to have a MiniVax as his coffee table.  We did all sorts 
of development on that system including NOS work,  satellite work, dsp 
work, and the on air tests for NOS,  TCP/IP over AX.25.  We did ranging 
solutions for AO-13 and more.  MAN do I wish I had that thing for the 
AR museum.  I wrote my AO-13 dsp demodulator on that thing.

I will never forget us eating Pizza, etc. and watching Monty Python with 
that thing in the middle.  Ah,  the days of misspent youth.

Bob


tim ellison wrote:
 Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] namens Tim Ellison
 Verzonden: do 2-11-2006 16:50
 Aan: Simon Brown (HB9DRV); FlexRadio
 Onderwerp: Re: [Flexradio] PSK31  Delta 44



 And for all of you too young to know or too old to forget what a VAX 11
 was (is) and it's predecessor the PDP-11, here is a little history

 http://www.webmythology.com/VAXhistory.htm

 http://research.microsoft.com/~gbell/Digital/Bell_Retrospective_PDP11_pa
 per_c1998.htm


 -Tim
   

-- 
AMSAT Director and VP Engineering. Member: ARRL, AMSAT-DL,
TAPR, Packrats, NJQRP, QRP ARCI, QCWA, FRC. ARRL SDR WG Chair
You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat.
You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los
Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly
the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there.
The only difference is that there is no cat. - Einstein


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[Flexradio] [KB] A new Knowledge Base article has been posted

2006-11-03 Thread Tim Ellison
A new Knowledge Base article, Q10307 - Tips for optimizing Windows XP
has been posted.
To view the article, use the following URL
http://kb.flex-radio.com/article.aspx?id=10307

An associated article, Q10133 - Is it Important to Keep my Computer
Updated -and- Resources for Optimizing my Computer has been updated as
well.
To view the article, use the following URL
http://kb.flex-radio.com/article.aspx?id=10133


-Tim

Integrated Technical Services
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Re: [Flexradio] PSK31 Delta 44

2006-11-03 Thread petervn
Some of the PDP8's and VAXes from my old boss
I gave to Kees pb0aia. See some pictures and links on
http://home.claranet.nl/users/pb0aia/vax/
Follow the links and enjoy (sorry for my english)
 
(sorry for those not interested)
 
groeten Peter pa0pvn
petervn(a)hetnet.nl mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  ; pa0pvn(a)hetnet.nl 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   ;
pa0pvn(a)gmail.com ; pa0pvn(a)amsat.org .
 



Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] namens Robert McGwier
Verzonden: vr 3-11-2006 17:27
Aan: Tim Ellison
CC: FlexRadio
Onderwerp: Re: [Flexradio] PSK31  Delta 44



Phil Karn used to have a MiniVax as his coffee table.  We did all sorts
of development on that system including NOS work,  satellite work, dsp
work, and the on air tests for NOS,  TCP/IP over AX.25.  We did ranging
solutions for AO-13 and more.  MAN do I wish I had that thing for the
AR museum.  I wrote my AO-13 dsp demodulator on that thing.

I will never forget us eating Pizza, etc. and watching Monty Python with
that thing in the middle.  Ah,  the days of misspent youth.

Bob


tim ellison wrote:
 Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] namens Tim Ellison
 Verzonden: do 2-11-2006 16:50
 Aan: Simon Brown (HB9DRV); FlexRadio
 Onderwerp: Re: [Flexradio] PSK31  Delta 44



 And for all of you too young to know or too old to forget what a VAX 11
 was (is) and it's predecessor the PDP-11, here is a little history

 http://www.webmythology.com/VAXhistory.htm

 http://research.microsoft.com/~gbell/Digital/Bell_Retrospective_PDP11_pa
 per_c1998.htm


 -Tim
  

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TAPR, Packrats, NJQRP, QRP ARCI, QCWA, FRC. ARRL SDR WG Chair
You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat.
You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los
Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly
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The only difference is that there is no cat. - Einstein


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Re: [Flexradio] Tomorrow's the Day.

2006-11-03 Thread Eric Ellison
John

Thanks! Yep! I've been looking forward to it. If any of you who have not
been on Teamspeak want to test: Our regular Flex-Radio-Friends weekly
Teamspeak forum is tonight at 01:00 UTC (8 P.M. EST etc.)

CU Tonight/Tomorrow  Tomorrow

Eric - AA4SW


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Basilotto
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 8:29 AM
To: Reflector
Subject: [Flexradio] Tomorrow's the Day.
Importance: High

Tomorrow at 11 AM CST [Noon on the east coast, 9 AM on the west coast, 1700
UTC.]on TEAMSPEAK.

Quick start guide for getting setup for Teamspeak:
http://kb.flex-radio.com/article.aspx?id=10161

We hope to see you there.



 Town hall meeting AGENDA


Agenda for the Saturday's Nov 4 Town Hall Meeting at 1700 UTC :
1. New official release of PowerSDR software for the SDR-1000 with review of
new features since v1.6.2.
2. Strategic software direction for new PowerSDR architecture and supporting
development tools.
3. New website and Knowledge Base overview
4. QA from previously emailed questions.

Please email questions directly to [EMAIL PROTECTED] as private emails so
they can be consolidated.  This will make for more efficient use of the
meeting time and will also result in better responses.
Question can also be posted on our forum at
http://forums.flex-radio.com/Topic16-44-1.aspx

John P. Basilotto
W5GI
Marketing and Product Manager
FlexRadio Systems
Office 512-250-8595
Mobile 512-663-6727




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Re: [Flexradio] Hey Bob - IQ DC offset hooks

2006-11-03 Thread Gerald Youngblood
Normal carrier suppression is better than 50 dB on the SDR-1000.  The ARRL
lab measured 53 dB in their October 2005 review.
73,
Gerald

Gerald Youngblood, K5SDR
FlexRadio Systems
Ph: 512-535-5266
Fax: 512-233-5143
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web: www.flex-radio.com
 

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert McGwier
 Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 10:22 AM
 To: Jim Lux
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; flexradio@flex-radio.biz
 Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Hey Bob - IQ DC offset hooks
 
 Ooops.  You are right.  If there is DC offset at the QSE,  it 
 will be transmitted and amplified.
 
 Jim Lux wrote:
  You're correct!  No DC path to the QSD.  The carrier is 
 coming from 
  the 1/f noise near DC.
  That will be taken care of when the TX IF gets implemented.
  
 
  I don't think it has anything to do with 1/f noise.
 
  TX IF won't fix it.
 
  Let's for a moment assume that you're feeding in an 11 kHz tone 
  through I/Q (phased so you generate the upper sideband..)  
 You'll get 
  a nice carrier at DDS Freq+11 kHz, and if the image 
 rejection is set 
  up properly, a very small signal at DDS-11 kHz.  BUT, 
 you'll also get 
  feedthrough at DDS Freq, and there's nothing you can do 
 about it with 
  an AC coupled system, because the carrier feedthrough in the QSE is 
  entirely determined by the balance of the 4 switches and the DC on 
  their pins, the latter probably determined by leakage 
 current of the 
  electrolytic capacitors.
 
  I looked at some measurements I made when I first got my 
 SDR1000s at 
  work and they all have some amount of leakage with the I/Q inputs 
  grounded. In fact, I used this feature for a calibration 
 signal, so 
  I could tell the difference between errors due to the DDS 
 and errors 
  due to the sound card.
 
  It *might* be that you can create a waveform for I/Q that will 
  compensate for this.  After all, if the parts were ideal DC 
 blocks, it 
  wouldn't have the problem, so maybe putting a bias on the audio 
  waveform will have an effect.
 
 
  Jim, W6RMK
 
 
 
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 TAPR, Packrats, NJQRP, QRP ARCI, QCWA, FRC. ARRL SDR WG Chair 
 You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat.
 You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los 
 Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly 
 the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there.
 The only difference is that there is no cat. - Einstein
 
 
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[Flexradio] Key Clicks

2006-11-03 Thread jcharley
Was just informed that I have some key clicks ... he was several hundred miles 
away. 
He said, I was listening to you on 7.037 MHz tonight and noticed that you have 
some very strong key clicks when I listen to your signal at a low note close to 
zero beat. I believe you were using a Flex radio rig. Your signal was about 10 
over s9 here and the clicks at zero beat were reading s7. I noticed the same 
thing on 2 different receivers. 

My setup:
Athlon AMD 64x2 w/ 2 gig mem, windows XP, Delta 44 snd card.
Process priority High.  
USB to SDR connection and keying via the SDR jack.
Sampling 48k;  buffer 256.  DSP buffer size 2048;
Keyer delay 400ms;  Wt = 500;  ramp= 5ms; High Res checked.
Running 25watts out.

Quick search of reflector was not helpful.  And didn't find anything in 
knowledge base.
Your thoughts?

73/Crit/K4BXN


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Re: [Flexradio] Key Clicks

2006-11-03 Thread Ken - N9VV
Here are some really great websites about clicks:
http://fermi.la.asu.edu/w9cf/articles/click/index.html
http://www.w8ji.com/keyclicks.htm
http://www.w8ji.com/what_causes_clicks.htm
http://www.w8ji.com/keyclicks_1000D.htm
http://www.w8ji.com/keyclick_mp.htm
http://www.w8ji.com/ft1000mk_v.htm
http://www.qsl.net/g3cwi/ft-1000mp_mkv_field.htm

de ken n9vv


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 Was just informed that I have some key clicks ...

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Re: [Flexradio] PSK31 Delta 44

2006-11-03 Thread Paul Wade W1GHZ
OK, Bob, you asked for it.  next time I come across a VAX, it will be coming
your way!  of course, it might not be a mini...

I was part of the hardware development team for the VAX 8200 and 8800 families,
plus the next two generations (that never shipped).

and the question about performance relative to your hot new PC -
probably 1000X slower in benchmarks.  but they got a whole lot of 
useful work done!

73
paul

At 11:27 AM 11/3/2006, Robert McGwier wrote:
Phil Karn used to have a MiniVax as his coffee table.  We did all sorts
of development on that system including NOS work,  satellite work, dsp
work, and the on air tests for NOS,  TCP/IP over AX.25.  We did ranging
solutions for AO-13 and more.  MAN do I wish I had that thing for the
AR museum.  I wrote my AO-13 dsp demodulator on that thing.

I will never forget us eating Pizza, etc. and watching Monty Python with
that thing in the middle.  Ah,  the days of misspent youth.

Bob


tim ellison wrote:
  Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] namens Tim Ellison
  Verzonden: do 2-11-2006 16:50
  Aan: Simon Brown (HB9DRV); FlexRadio
  Onderwerp: Re: [Flexradio] PSK31  Delta 44
 
 
 
  And for all of you too young to know or too old to forget what a VAX 11
  was (is) and it's predecessor the PDP-11, here is a little history
 
  http://www.webmythology.com/VAXhistory.htm
 
  http://research.microsoft.com/~gbell/Digital/Bell_Retrospective_PDP11_pa
  per_c1998.htm
 
 
  -Tim
 

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[Flexradio] Key Clicks

2006-11-03 Thread Lee A Crocker
One report is just that one report.  I'm also not sure
what he means when he says he is listening to you with
a low note close to zero beat.  Does that mean he is
mixing your signal with the phase noise in his
synthesizer?  Typically key clicks are picked up one
to a few khz off freq depending on your keying speed
and not near zero beat.  

What you might do is get on the flexer net and have
another flexer to look at your signal on the
panadapter and see if its wide.  My guess this is a
red herring.

73  W9OY  


 

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Re: [Flexradio] Key Clicks

2006-11-03 Thread Robert McGwier
I am with Lee.  I operate either digital modes using VAC (ALE,  PSK31, 
Olivia, MFSK, etc.) or CW.  I regularly do 40 wpm with the rig.  I have 
never once had a key click report.  In fact,  the complaint I have heard 
from some operators is that the keying on the monitor is softer than 
they are use to for sidetone.  The waveform is quite spectacular.  You 
can see this in the ARRL review of the radio.  Rick Lindquist recently 
told me that he worked an SDR-1000 on the air and was so impressed by 
the CW performance (which was perfected after the review was done) that 
he thought something should be written in the magazine.  Rick, N1RL,  
wrote the last review for QST.

If you are having some kind of soundcard issue this might have a 
clicking or ticking but it would be regular like clock work I would 
think.  I am sorry I will not be at home for a few days or I would get 
on the air with you.

Bob



Lee A Crocker wrote:
 One report is just that one report.  I'm also not sure
 what he means when he says he is listening to you with
 a low note close to zero beat.  Does that mean he is
 mixing your signal with the phase noise in his
 synthesizer?  Typically key clicks are picked up one
 to a few khz off freq depending on your keying speed
 and not near zero beat.  

 What you might do is get on the flexer net and have
 another flexer to look at your signal on the
 panadapter and see if its wide.  My guess this is a
 red herring.

 73  W9OY  


  
 
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You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat.
You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los
Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly
the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there.
The only difference is that there is no cat. - Einstein


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