Re: [Flexradio] VAC problems....

2007-06-16 Thread José Dumoulin
Hi Jim

The current version is 4.06.

73
José F5JD

Charles Greene a écrit :
> Jim,
>
> I had that problem with 4.05 too.  The only solution is to contact 
> Eugene Muzychenko at:
> http://software.muzychenko.net/eng/vac.html
>
> I did this and Eugene gave me a procedure for removing the old 
> version and reinstalling 4.05.
>
> 73,  Chas
>
> At 06:09 PM 6/16/2007, you wrote:
>   
>> I hate it when this happens. I attempted an un-install of 3.12 in
>> preparation of installing 4.05. The un-install did not go well. 4.05
>> will not install. AND any attempt to re-install 3.12 also fails. The
>> error message says VAC is already present, so there apparently is a
>> file somewhere that did not get removed and there you go.
>>
>> Anybody got a suggestion. I have emailed NTONYX support but 
>> probably
>> won't hear from them until at least after the weekend and I would
>> love to get this all cleaned up.
>>
>> Jim W4ATK
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Re: [Flexradio] am I the only person to do this?

2007-06-16 Thread Gerald Youngblood
It would be easy to turn the power off from PowerSDR but impossible to turn
it on.  As Tim states, the FireWire controller in the radio requires power
in order to talk to the PC.  
Gerald

Gerald Youngblood, K5SDR
FlexRadio Systems
Ph: 512-250-5435
Fax: 512-233-5143
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web: www.flex-radio.com
 

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Ellison
> Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 9:22 AM
> To: Jerry Flanders; FlexRadio List
> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] am I the only person to do this?
> 
> The problem is that the FLEX-5000 has to be on to control it 
> since the control cable is Firewire.  When the power is off, 
> the device (radio) does not exist as far as Windows is concerned.
> 
> There are other (and better) ways to turn power on and off 
> remotely using TCP/IP 
> 
> 
> -Tim
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Flanders
> Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 9:57 AM
> To: n3evl; FireBrick; FlexRadio List
> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] am I the only person to do this?
> 
> I was a little surprised that Gerald didn't design the new 
> 5000 radio to turn power on/off remotely by the PowerSDR ON 
> button. Would have made it easier to remote it. Maybe in the 
> Flex-6000 4 years from now?
> 
> Jerry W4UK
> 
> At 08:02 AM 6/16/2007, n3evl wrote:
> >Haha!
> >
> >Yes, I admit to having done this in the past.
> >
> >Pete, N3EVL
> >
> >
> >- Original Message -
> >From: "FireBrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "FlexRadio List" 
> >Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 7:28 AM
> >Subject: [Flexradio] am I the only person to do this?
> >
> >
> > > I've posted this to the Feature Request page.
> > > Anyone else do a stupid thing like this? Or am I the only 
> > > technological cretin in the group?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > This morning, I started PWSDR and could not figure out 
> why I had no 
> > > power out.
> > > Duh!. I had not flipped the Power switch on the Flex radio.
> > > Can the PWSDR software flash a message saying.
> > >
> > > "Radio is not turned on you stupid, fat bellied, beer guzzling
> idiot!"
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm used to that type of statement here.
> > >
> > >
> > > -
> > > Why do we say something is out of whack? What's a whack?
> > > -
> > >
> > > Bill H. in Chicagoland
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Re: [Flexradio] VAC problems....

2007-06-16 Thread Charles Greene
Jim,

I had that problem with 4.05 too.  The only solution is to contact 
Eugene Muzychenko at:
http://software.muzychenko.net/eng/vac.html

I did this and Eugene gave me a procedure for removing the old 
version and reinstalling 4.05.

73,  Chas

At 06:09 PM 6/16/2007, you wrote:
> I hate it when this happens. I attempted an un-install of 3.12 in
>preparation of installing 4.05. The un-install did not go well. 4.05
>will not install. AND any attempt to re-install 3.12 also fails. The
>error message says VAC is already present, so there apparently is a
>file somewhere that did not get removed and there you go.
>
> Anybody got a suggestion. I have emailed NTONYX support but 
> probably
>won't hear from them until at least after the weekend and I would
>love to get this all cleaned up.
>
>Jim W4ATK
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Re: [Flexradio] VAC problems

2007-06-16 Thread James T. Rogers, W4ATK
Well, I have done all I know to do short of using regedit, which I  
have done before. I guess I will have a look, but do not expect to  
find anything pertaining to VAC there. Normally products using the  
registry will show up in the ADD/REMOVE program utility in control  
panel. I suspect it is some idiotic file secreted somewhere it is  
looking at.

Jim

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Re: [Flexradio] unsubscripe

2007-06-16 Thread Bob Maser
unsubscripe
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Re: [Flexradio] VAC problems....

2007-06-16 Thread Tim Ellison
Jim,

Contact Eugene directly:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 


-Tim

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James T. Rogers,
W4ATK
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 6:10 PM
To: FlexRadio List
Subject: [Flexradio] VAC problems

I hate it when this happens. I attempted an un-install of 3.12
in preparation of installing 4.05. The un-install did not go well. 4.05
will not install. AND any attempt to re-install 3.12 also fails. The
error message says VAC is already present, so there apparently is a file
somewhere that did not get removed and there you go.

Anybody got a suggestion. I have emailed NTONYX support but
probably won't hear from them until at least after the weekend and I
would love to get this all cleaned up.

Jim W4ATK

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Re: [Flexradio] A new web browser to try out.

2007-06-16 Thread Fred Brandeberry
Tim,

  I tried Safari out about a week ago, after the install a reboot is 
required, and my machine did not make it. Instead I got a blank screen with 
a message at the top "insert boot disk"..  A cold boot brought things back 
okay, but my machine will still not "soft boot". I have not spent the time 
to try to figure out why. Safari seems to run okay otherwise, and does seem 
pretty fast. .. heck of a way to start out though. :-)
73,
Fred

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Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 8:09 AM
Subject: [Flexradio] A new web browser to try out.


> If you are interested, Apple has released a beta of their Safari web
> page that runs on Windows (XP or Vista).  It works with all of the
> features on the FlexRadio web site.
>
> http://www.apple.com/safari/
>
>
> -Tim
> 
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> Apex, North Carolina
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Re: [Flexradio] VAC problems....

2007-06-16 Thread k5nwa
At 05:09 PM 6/16/2007, you wrote:
> I hate it when this happens. I attempted an un-install of 3.12 in
>preparation of installing 4.05. The un-install did not go well. 4.05
>will not install. AND any attempt to re-install 3.12 also fails. The
>error message says VAC is already present, so there apparently is a
>file somewhere that did not get removed and there you go.
>
> Anybody got a suggestion. I have emailed NTONYX support but 
> probably
>won't hear from them until at least after the weekend and I would
>love to get this all cleaned up.
>
>Jim W4ATK
Delete the folder in "Program Files" for VAC

Then if you feel brave you need to edit the registry and remove the 
entries for VAC, but if you mess up you can end up hosing the OS. I 
have never messed it up and have done it hundreds of times, but I do 
this for a living so I'm somewhat used to going in the registry and 
nuking entries by the bucket load.

Here is the killer, if you need to ask how to do it, then you should 
not be messing with the registry.



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[Flexradio] VAC problems....

2007-06-16 Thread James T. Rogers, W4ATK
I hate it when this happens. I attempted an un-install of 3.12 in  
preparation of installing 4.05. The un-install did not go well. 4.05  
will not install. AND any attempt to re-install 3.12 also fails. The  
error message says VAC is already present, so there apparently is a  
file somewhere that did not get removed and there you go.

Anybody got a suggestion. I have emailed NTONYX support but probably  
won't hear from them until at least after the weekend and I would  
love to get this all cleaned up.

Jim W4ATK

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Re: [Flexradio] [OT] LNA VHF preamps

2007-06-16 Thread Ray J
I have a DEMI (Down East Microwave)preamp I put together, it was pretty 
simple with some surface mount components and several leaded parts..

http://downeastmicrowave.com/PDF/6mlna.PDF

  18dB, <0.7DBNF

one of the best things is the fact is that it is only $35 for the 
complete kit with die cast enclosure..

Ray J


Tim Ellison wrote:
> I am looking for some advice on LNA VHF preamps from the VHF+ gurus that
> subscribe to the list.  I am not an EE nor do I even try to play one on
> TV and I certainly didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night, so I
> am looking for some education on this subject.
> 
> 
> I have been looking at several LNA designs (specifically for 6m) and it
> seems that they come in several flavors.
> 
> 1.) dual gate MOS FETs
> 
> 2.) GaAs FETs
> 
> 3.) bipolar transistors
> 
> One mfg. claims that the new "very low noise" dual gate MOS FETs have a
> better noise figure than the GaAs FETs.  I have always heard that the
> GaAs FETs were the way to go for the best noise figure, so I am confused
> from the marketing hype.
> 
> I am looking to get a non-mast mounted preamp for 6 meters.  I have a
> few transceivers that cover 6 meters, but are not the best for weak
> signal work and need a little help. This could be a receive only device,
> as that would be it's initial function, but I am not excluding mast
> mounted ones either.
> 
> If anyone want to make a recommendation for a particular mfg. or kit,
> that would be appreciated too.
> 
> -Tim, W4TME
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Re: [Flexradio] [OT] LNA VHF preamps

2007-06-16 Thread Jim Lux
At 01:48 PM 6/16/2007, Tim Ellison wrote:
>I am looking for some advice on LNA VHF preamps from the VHF+ gurus that
>subscribe to the list.  I am not an EE nor do I even try to play one on
>TV and I certainly didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night, so I
>am looking for some education on this subject.
>
>
>I have been looking at several LNA designs (specifically for 6m) and it
>seems that they come in several flavors.
>
>1.) dual gate MOS FETs
>
>2.) GaAs FETs
>
>3.) bipolar transistors

And, there's a raft of MMIC LNAs out there in all sorts of 
technologies from CMOS, to SiGe, etc...


>One mfg. claims that the new "very low noise" dual gate MOS FETs have a
>better noise figure than the GaAs FETs.  I have always heard that the
>GaAs FETs were the way to go for the best noise figure, so I am confused
>from the marketing hype.

A lot also depends on the circuit you put that device in.. how low do 
you want to go?

Are you looking for <1dB NF? or 2-3dB.. If the latter, MiniCircuits 
has a whole raft of amps that will probably meet your needs.



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Re: [Flexradio] am I the only person to do this?/ Access

2007-06-16 Thread Jim Lux
At 09:04 AM 6/16/2007, Ned Johnson wrote:

>to limit access to the equipment?  In the not-so-old days this meant
>physical access.  Now it ought to extend to network access as well.
>Please, no passwords, usernames etc.  An OFF/ON switch is fine.
>
>Ned K1NJ

Just an on/off switch? Absolutely not... we should demand three 
factor authentication with at least two independent biometric ids, 
which need to be reverified everything you hit the PTT.

Jim.. 



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Re: [Flexradio] [OT] LNA VHF preamps

2007-06-16 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Tim Ellison said the following on 06/16/2007 04:48 PM:

> One mfg. claims that the new "very low noise" dual gate MOS FETs have a
> better noise figure than the GaAs FETs.  I have always heard that the
> GaAs FETs were the way to go for the best noise figure, so I am confused
> from the marketing hype.
> 
> I am looking to get a non-mast mounted preamp for 6 meters.  I have a
> few transceivers that cover 6 meters, but are not the best for weak
> signal work and need a little help. This could be a receive only device,
> as that would be it's initial function, but I am not excluding mast
> mounted ones either.
> 
> If anyone want to make a recommendation for a particular mfg. or kit,
> that would be appreciated too.

Hi Tim --

Remember that the noise figure of the amp only matters if it's higher
than the background noise.  So, at 6M where other noise is still
significant, you don't need to strive for a <1dB noise figure (even
though it's pretty easy to obtain).  Similarly, mast mounting doesn't
gain you much unless the feedline is very long, unlike at higher
frequencies where getting the gain ahead of the coax loss becomes very
important.

For what it's worth, I've always liked Advanced Receiver Research
(www.advancedreceiver.com) preamps.  They have a wide range available.

John

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[Flexradio] [OT] LNA VHF preamps

2007-06-16 Thread Tim Ellison
I am looking for some advice on LNA VHF preamps from the VHF+ gurus that
subscribe to the list.  I am not an EE nor do I even try to play one on
TV and I certainly didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night, so I
am looking for some education on this subject.


I have been looking at several LNA designs (specifically for 6m) and it
seems that they come in several flavors.

1.) dual gate MOS FETs

2.) GaAs FETs

3.) bipolar transistors

One mfg. claims that the new "very low noise" dual gate MOS FETs have a
better noise figure than the GaAs FETs.  I have always heard that the
GaAs FETs were the way to go for the best noise figure, so I am confused
from the marketing hype.

I am looking to get a non-mast mounted preamp for 6 meters.  I have a
few transceivers that cover 6 meters, but are not the best for weak
signal work and need a little help. This could be a receive only device,
as that would be it's initial function, but I am not excluding mast
mounted ones either.

If anyone want to make a recommendation for a particular mfg. or kit,
that would be appreciated too.

-Tim, W4TME


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Re: [Flexradio] am I the only person to do this?

2007-06-16 Thread k5nwa
At 10:14 AM 6/16/2007, you wrote:
>I hear we can ship the mercury to China for disposal :-)
>
>
>-Tim
But I also heard they will return it back in the dog food and toothpaste.



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Re: [Flexradio] am I the only person to do this?

2007-06-16 Thread joetorrey
>I did go into my sdr1000 and add a relay that switches the "Main Power"
to the PA and Auto Tuner on when using the power sdr "standby" button. I
do use the original power button to power up the stack assembly to
standby. I installed an led that lets you know when "main" power is on. I
just did this in the last few weeks along with some other relay logic for
antenna switching and such. I did not take pictures. I did note schematic
locations. The relay used for the "Main" power up is a 30 amp relay which
mounted off of the fan assembly with a small bracket. I used a signal
from the demi board that goes "high" to key the relay; this is using an
npn transistor and associated circuitry which mounted on the "Main"
Relay. The signal from the demi was found by testing points for a logic
high when energizing through the standby button.

Thanks,
Joe
WD5Y

 At 07:46 AM 6/16/2007, Jerry Flanders wrote:
>>Sort of like saying your TV has to be on in order for the remote to
>>power it up, huh? Think about it...
>>
>>Jerry W4UK
>
> The TV is on, so the remote control receiver can receive the commands
> to turn on the HV, etc. (or at least, part of it is on).
>
>
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[Flexradio] unsubscripe

2007-06-16 Thread Skip K3CC
unsubscripe

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[Flexradio] is there such a thing as a 15pin Y adapter

2007-06-16 Thread FireBrick
I need a Y to fit the x2 socket to feed two devices.
I can find dsub Y adapters for monitors, but they are missing pins.

My eyes are too old for soldering those small pins unless I have to.
I've searched the web and only find the 2 monitor type Y connectors.

Anyone ???


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Re: [Flexradio] am I the only person to do this?

2007-06-16 Thread Eric Wachsmann
The FLEX-5000 does just such a thing, though the message is somewhat more
encouraging (and helpful).  ;)


Eric Wachsmann
FlexRadio Systems

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> radio.biz] On Behalf Of FireBrick
> Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 6:28 AM
> To: FlexRadio List
> Subject: [Flexradio] am I the only person to do this?
> 
> I've posted this to the Feature Request page.
> Anyone else do a stupid thing like this? Or am I the only technological
> cretin in the group?
> 
> 
> 
> This morning, I started PWSDR and could not figure out why I had no power
> out.
> Duh!. I had not flipped the Power switch on the Flex radio.
> Can the PWSDR software flash a message saying.
> 
> "Radio is not turned on you stupid, fat bellied, beer guzzling idiot!"



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Re: [Flexradio] am I the only person to do this?/ Access

2007-06-16 Thread Ned Johnson

I rather have a hardware switch that takes the radio
out of a hibernate mode that runs the OCXO and that sort of thing.
I don't want a hacker, or other malevolent force to be able to mess
with the radio.  Wasn't there an FCC regulation that was supposed
to limit access to the equipment?  In the not-so-old days this meant
physical access.  Now it ought to extend to network access as well.
Please, no passwords, usernames etc.  An OFF/ON switch is fine.

Ned K1NJ


Jim Lux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: At 06:57 AM 6/16/2007, Jerry Flanders wrote:
>I was a little surprised that Gerald didn't design the new 5000 radio
>to turn power on/off remotely by the PowerSDR ON button. Would have
>made it easier to remote it. Maybe in the Flex-6000 4 years from now?


Re the 5000..

A remote control command to turn power on and off would require that 
at least some part of the 5000 be powered so it could receive the 
command.  That brings up a whole set of other questions (e.g. should 
you have standby power to the OCXO? etc.)

There's no universally acceptable way to do this sort of thing, since 
everyone has their own desires for what they want to control.

A "remote shack" will probably have other things that need remote 
power control, and there's a wide variety of products that perform 
this function, ranging from X-10 style to various RS232, RF, and 
ethernet widgets.

What IS nice is if the device being controlled can come up 
consistently in a particular state when external power is applied 
(the SDR1000 does not)



Jim, w6rmk 



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Re: [Flexradio] am I the only person to do this?

2007-06-16 Thread Jim Lux
At 07:46 AM 6/16/2007, Jerry Flanders wrote:
>Sort of like saying your TV has to be on in order for the remote to
>power it up, huh? Think about it...
>
>Jerry W4UK

The TV is on, so the remote control receiver can receive the commands 
to turn on the HV, etc. (or at least, part of it is on).


Jim 



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Re: [Flexradio] am I the only person to do this?

2007-06-16 Thread Jim Lux
At 06:57 AM 6/16/2007, Jerry Flanders wrote:
>I was a little surprised that Gerald didn't design the new 5000 radio
>to turn power on/off remotely by the PowerSDR ON button. Would have
>made it easier to remote it. Maybe in the Flex-6000 4 years from now?


Re the 5000..

A remote control command to turn power on and off would require that 
at least some part of the 5000 be powered so it could receive the 
command.  That brings up a whole set of other questions (e.g. should 
you have standby power to the OCXO? etc.)

There's no universally acceptable way to do this sort of thing, since 
everyone has their own desires for what they want to control.

A "remote shack" will probably have other things that need remote 
power control, and there's a wide variety of products that perform 
this function, ranging from X-10 style to various RS232, RF, and 
ethernet widgets.

What IS nice is if the device being controlled can come up 
consistently in a particular state when external power is applied 
(the SDR1000 does not)



Jim, w6rmk 



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Re: [Flexradio] am I the only person to do this?

2007-06-16 Thread Jerry Flanders
Actually, a small part of it is on - constantly. This is how almost 
ALL modern gadgets work, some at micropower levels so the battery 
lasts. Any gadget that turns on/off by pressing a soft button is 
doing this. When I think about the Flex-5000 and it's total 
dependence on software for normal operation, it seems incongruous to 
have to push a physical button in addition to the virtual button. 
Nonetheless, I look forward to pushing the power button on my own new 
5000 sometime in July.

Jerry W4UK

At 11:16 AM 6/16/2007, Tim Ellison wrote:
>But your TV IS on when you power it up with the remote.  It is sitting
>in standby mode - drawing current.
>
>
>-Tim
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Jerry Flanders [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 10:46 AM
>To: Tim Ellison
>Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
>Subject: RE: [Flexradio] am I the only person to do this?
>
>Sort of like saying your TV has to be on in order for the remote to
>power it up, huh? Think about it...
>
>Jerry W4UK
>
>At 10:22 AM 6/16/2007, you wrote:
> >The problem is that the FLEX-5000 has to be on to control it since the
> >control cable is Firewire.  When the power is off, the device (radio)
> >does not exist as far as Windows is concerned.
> >
> >There are other (and better) ways to turn power on and off remotely
> >using TCP/IP
> >
> >
> >-Tim
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Flanders
> >Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 9:57 AM
> >To: n3evl; FireBrick; FlexRadio List
> >Subject: Re: [Flexradio] am I the only person to do this?
> >
> >I was a little surprised that Gerald didn't design the new 5000 radio
> >to turn power on/off remotely by the PowerSDR ON button. Would have
> >made it easier to remote it. Maybe in the Flex-6000 4 years from now?
> >
> >Jerry W4UK


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Re: [Flexradio] Misc.

2007-06-16 Thread Eric Wachsmann
Answers inline below.

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> radio.biz] On Behalf Of Phelps K. TerHeun
> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 11:20 PM
> To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
> Cc: Denson, John
> Subject: [Flexradio] Misc.
> 
> 
> And I have a couple of technical questions about the SDR-5000:

[Eric] Note: FLEX-5000, not SDR-5000.  ;)

> 1. Can the radio operate out of band [I'm authorized on CAP/SHARES(FEMA)HF
> circuits as well as Amateur]?

[Eric] Yes.  Once given proof of authorization credentials (such as a
scan/picture of your CAP/MARS/etc license), we will take care of getting you
access to the frequencies to which you have legal access.

> 2. Will the PA handle out of band frequencies or are there segments where
> it
> does not work?  If that is the case, can the SDR-5000 be purchased without
> the 100 Watt PA? I have a Ten Tech 100 Watt PA I could use off board for
> CAP, Etc.

[Eric] The PA will be optimized for the ham bands, but it will work fine in
between.  You may have a little more filter roll-off, but it should not
prevent you from getting full power out with great signals.



Best Wishes,

Eric Wachsmann
FlexRadio Systems


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Re: [Flexradio] remote web control of AC powered devices

2007-06-16 Thread Ken N9VV
Addendum: four more remote TCP/IP power switches

https://ssl4.westserver.net/controlbyweb.com/order.shtml
http://www.achatz.nl/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=39&osCsid=607e5805281bd3f5ff4458f77275821e
 
 >
http://home.cogeco.ca/~hduff/EIO_Main.htm
http://www.surpluscomputers.com/store/main.aspx?p=ItemDetail&item=NET10332


Ken N9VV wrote:
> Here are a couple examples of TCP/IP controlled power switches. I have 
> been looking for a homebrew example or something less expensive:
> 
> Remote TCP/IP Power Switch
> http://www.controlbyweb.com/webswitch/index.html
> http://www.surpluscomputers.com/store/main.aspx?p=ItemDetail&item=TOL10273
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260127607686
> 
> 
> 
> Tim Ellison wrote:
>>
>> There are other (and better) ways to turn power on and off remotely
>> using TCP/IP
>>
>> -Tim
> 
> de Ken n9vv
> 

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Re: [Flexradio] am I the only person to do this?

2007-06-16 Thread Tim Ellison
But your TV IS on when you power it up with the remote.  It is sitting
in standby mode - drawing current.


-Tim

-Original Message-
From: Jerry Flanders [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 10:46 AM
To: Tim Ellison
Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: RE: [Flexradio] am I the only person to do this?

Sort of like saying your TV has to be on in order for the remote to
power it up, huh? Think about it...

Jerry W4UK

At 10:22 AM 6/16/2007, you wrote:
>The problem is that the FLEX-5000 has to be on to control it since the 
>control cable is Firewire.  When the power is off, the device (radio) 
>does not exist as far as Windows is concerned.
>
>There are other (and better) ways to turn power on and off remotely 
>using TCP/IP
>
>
>-Tim
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Flanders
>Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 9:57 AM
>To: n3evl; FireBrick; FlexRadio List
>Subject: Re: [Flexradio] am I the only person to do this?
>
>I was a little surprised that Gerald didn't design the new 5000 radio 
>to turn power on/off remotely by the PowerSDR ON button. Would have 
>made it easier to remote it. Maybe in the Flex-6000 4 years from now?
>
>Jerry W4UK


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Re: [Flexradio] Noise floor, specifying

2007-06-16 Thread petervn
As you say Chas, (but a bit better)
power=10log (BW),  think what the 10log function is doing
good luck
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Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] namens Charles Greene
Verzonden: za 16-6-2007 13:55
Aan: Dave Haupt; flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Onderwerp: Re: [Flexradio] Noise floor, specifying



David,

I'm not a practicing engineer, but I always thought Noise
power=10*log BW.  So the noise power in a 10hz filter was 10 times
that in a 1Hz reference.  Tell me what I am thinking of.

Chas, W1CG



At 03:05 PM 6/15/2007, Dave Haupt wrote:
>You're getting very close to instrumentation norms.
>
>Noise, by its very nature, varies in apparent strength
>by the bandwidth in which you measure it.  When
>measuring truly random noise, the power (in watts) is
>in direct proportion to the bandwidth of the filter
>used in the measurement.  Man-made noise often
>consists of thousands of semi-correlated carriers, and
>the noise power can grow faster than simply being
>proportional to BW.
>
>To be accurate, an engineer specifies noise either as
>"dBm/Hz" which means "dBm measured in a one Hertz
>bandwidth" or "watts/hz" or something like that.  It
>would also be equivalent to say "dBm measured using a
>200Hz filter" or something like that.  Audio-frequency
>guys tend to measure amplitudes in volts, at which
>point a square root gets into the picture, and you
>will read things like "nanovolts per root Hertz".
>
>Sine waves and noise are described using different
>mathematical terms and as an interesting result, to
>make a truly accurate spectrum analyzer,
>instrumentation manufacturers often use an algorithm
>to attempt to distinguish a sine wave from a noise
>function.   Anybody who's used the digitally-enhanced
>analog spectrum analyzers by HP (8566/68, 8590 and
>8560 series) has probably encountered the "noise
>marker".  The instruments are calibrated for accuracy
>with sine wave signals (or sums of sine waves - any
>repetitive waveform), and are in error, fundamentally,
>for noise. When you turn on the "noise marker", the
>instrument makes additional calculations to make the
>readings accurate for random noise.
>
>When you get down to the nitty-gritty of noise, it's
>not at all a simple subject.
>
>73,
>
>Dave W8NF
>
>
> >>From: "Doug McCormack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Noise Floor S meter vs
>Panadapter
>
> >> Thanks everyone for the quick and detailed
>explanation.  I now understand
> >> the S meter displays one sum across the entire
>width of the green filter,
> >> while the panadapter displays hundreds of sums
>across the width of each
> >> individual pixel.  When I set the filter very
>narrow (approaching one pixel)
> >> the S metter reading approaches the panadapter
>reading.
>
> >> My old Kenwood was similar in that selecting the
>narrow CW filter caused a
> >> drop in S meter noise floor.  This behavior makes
>perfect sense for any radio.
>
> >> I guess if someone asks about the noise floor, they
>need to specify at what
> >> filter width.
>
> >> 73, Doug, VE3EFC
>
>
>
>
>Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search
>that gives answers, not web links.
>http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC
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Re: [Flexradio] am I the only person to do this?

2007-06-16 Thread Ken N9VV
Here are a couple examples of TCP/IP controlled power switches. I have 
been looking for a homebrew example or something less expensive:

Remote TCP/IP Power Switch
http://www.controlbyweb.com/webswitch/index.html
http://www.surpluscomputers.com/store/main.aspx?p=ItemDetail&item=TOL10273
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260127607686



Tim Ellison wrote:
> 
> There are other (and better) ways to turn power on and off remotely
> using TCP/IP 
> 
> 
> -Tim

de Ken n9vv

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Re: [Flexradio] am I the only person to do this?

2007-06-16 Thread petervn
Managed that even without (part of) sixpack  HI
73
 
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Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] namens FireBrick
Verzonden: za 16-6-2007 13:28
Aan: FlexRadio List
Onderwerp: [Flexradio] am I the only person to do this?



I've posted this to the Feature Request page.
Anyone else do a stupid thing like this? Or am I the only technological
cretin in the group?



This morning, I started PWSDR and could not figure out why I had no power
out.
Duh!. I had not flipped the Power switch on the Flex radio.
Can the PWSDR software flash a message saying.

"Radio is not turned on you stupid, fat bellied, beer guzzling idiot!"



I'm used to that type of statement here.


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Re: [Flexradio] am I the only person to do this?

2007-06-16 Thread Jerry Flanders
Sort of like saying your TV has to be on in order for the remote to 
power it up, huh? Think about it...

Jerry W4UK

At 10:22 AM 6/16/2007, you wrote:
>The problem is that the FLEX-5000 has to be on to control it since the
>control cable is Firewire.  When the power is off, the device (radio)
>does not exist as far as Windows is concerned.
>
>There are other (and better) ways to turn power on and off remotely
>using TCP/IP
>
>
>-Tim
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Flanders
>Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 9:57 AM
>To: n3evl; FireBrick; FlexRadio List
>Subject: Re: [Flexradio] am I the only person to do this?
>
>I was a little surprised that Gerald didn't design the new 5000 radio to
>turn power on/off remotely by the PowerSDR ON button. Would have made it
>easier to remote it. Maybe in the Flex-6000 4 years from now?
>
>Jerry W4UK


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Re: [Flexradio] am I the only person to do this?

2007-06-16 Thread k5nwa
At 08:53 AM 6/16/2007, you wrote:
>We have all done it.  Me included.  The incredibly low noise floor on
>the Panadapter is what gives it away for me.  I have just gotten into
>the habit of leaving it turned on.  It has better frequency stability
>that way since it is already warmed up.  To offset the extra cost on the
>power bill, I switched to those fancy mercury vapor bulbs that use very
>little amperage and last for 10 years.  It will take that long for them
>to pay for themselves :-)
>
>-Tim

Don't count on a 10 year life, 5 at best is what you can expect. How 
much did you pay for those light bulbs? I paid about $1.10 each for 
100 Watt equivalent bulbs. Also don't forget the savings in air 
conditioning by not having those old heaters turned on.

But what are we going to do with the Mercury? The best plans of mice 
an men. You can't win.



Cecil
K5NWA
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Re: [Flexradio] am I the only person to do this?

2007-06-16 Thread Jerry Flanders
Even the Extras among us get used to using only one switch to turn a 
radio on/off. The "official" way to startup a SDR-1000 requires a 3 
step process. Ref: p. 130 SDR-1000 Operating Manual V 1.8.

Jerry W4UK

At 09:53 AM 6/16/2007, Tim Ellison wrote:
>I believe the assumption here is that if you were bright enough to pass
>a General class ham radio license you can master turning on the power
>:-)


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Re: [Flexradio] am I the only person to do this?

2007-06-16 Thread Tim Ellison
The problem is that the FLEX-5000 has to be on to control it since the
control cable is Firewire.  When the power is off, the device (radio)
does not exist as far as Windows is concerned.

There are other (and better) ways to turn power on and off remotely
using TCP/IP 


-Tim

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Flanders
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 9:57 AM
To: n3evl; FireBrick; FlexRadio List
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] am I the only person to do this?

I was a little surprised that Gerald didn't design the new 5000 radio to
turn power on/off remotely by the PowerSDR ON button. Would have made it
easier to remote it. Maybe in the Flex-6000 4 years from now?

Jerry W4UK

At 08:02 AM 6/16/2007, n3evl wrote:
>Haha!
>
>Yes, I admit to having done this in the past.
>
>Pete, N3EVL
>
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "FireBrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "FlexRadio List" 
>Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 7:28 AM
>Subject: [Flexradio] am I the only person to do this?
>
>
> > I've posted this to the Feature Request page.
> > Anyone else do a stupid thing like this? Or am I the only 
> > technological cretin in the group?
> >
> >
> >
> > This morning, I started PWSDR and could not figure out why I had no 
> > power out.
> > Duh!. I had not flipped the Power switch on the Flex radio.
> > Can the PWSDR software flash a message saying.
> >
> > "Radio is not turned on you stupid, fat bellied, beer guzzling
idiot!"
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm used to that type of statement here.
> >
> >
> > -
> > Why do we say something is out of whack? What's a whack?
> > -
> >
> > Bill H. in Chicagoland


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[Flexradio] A new web browser to try out.

2007-06-16 Thread Tim Ellison
If you are interested, Apple has released a beta of their Safari web
page that runs on Windows (XP or Vista).  It works with all of the
features on the FlexRadio web site.

http://www.apple.com/safari/ 


-Tim

Integrated Technical Services
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[Flexradio] 2007/June/16 FRF TeamSpeak audio

2007-06-16 Thread Mike Naruta
The 16/June Flex Radio Friends TeamSpeak
zipped mp3 is available at:


< http://www.hamsdr.com/dnld.aspx?id=610 >

or

< http://www.hamsdr.com/dnld.aspx >



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Re: [Flexradio] am I the only person to do this?

2007-06-16 Thread Jerry Flanders
I was a little surprised that Gerald didn't design the new 5000 radio 
to turn power on/off remotely by the PowerSDR ON button. Would have 
made it easier to remote it. Maybe in the Flex-6000 4 years from now?

Jerry W4UK

At 08:02 AM 6/16/2007, n3evl wrote:
>Haha!
>
>Yes, I admit to having done this in the past.
>
>Pete, N3EVL
>
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "FireBrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "FlexRadio List" 
>Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 7:28 AM
>Subject: [Flexradio] am I the only person to do this?
>
>
> > I've posted this to the Feature Request page.
> > Anyone else do a stupid thing like this? Or am I the only technological
> > cretin in the group?
> >
> >
> >
> > This morning, I started PWSDR and could not figure out why I had no power
> > out.
> > Duh!. I had not flipped the Power switch on the Flex radio.
> > Can the PWSDR software flash a message saying.
> >
> > "Radio is not turned on you stupid, fat bellied, beer guzzling idiot!"
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm used to that type of statement here.
> >
> >
> > -
> > Why do we say something is out of whack? What's a whack?
> > -
> >
> > Bill H. in Chicagoland


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Re: [Flexradio] am I the only person to do this?

2007-06-16 Thread Tim Ellison
I believe the assumption here is that if you were bright enough to pass
a General class ham radio license you can master turning on the power
:-)

We have all done it.  Me included.  The incredibly low noise floor on
the Panadapter is what gives it away for me.  I have just gotten into
the habit of leaving it turned on.  It has better frequency stability
that way since it is already warmed up.  To offset the extra cost on the
power bill, I switched to those fancy mercury vapor bulbs that use very
little amperage and last for 10 years.  It will take that long for them
to pay for themselves :-)


-Tim

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of FireBrick
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 7:28 AM
To: FlexRadio List
Subject: [Flexradio] am I the only person to do this?

I've posted this to the Feature Request page.
Anyone else do a stupid thing like this? Or am I the only technological
cretin in the group?



This morning, I started PWSDR and could not figure out why I had no
power 
out.
Duh!. I had not flipped the Power switch on the Flex radio.
Can the PWSDR software flash a message saying.

"Radio is not turned on you stupid, fat bellied, beer guzzling idiot!"



I'm used to that type of statement here.


-
Why do we say something is out of whack? What's a whack?
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Re: [Flexradio] am I the only person to do this?

2007-06-16 Thread James T. Rogers, W4ATK
I for one can attest that I have done the same, more than once, but I  
attributed my sin to "SENIOR MOMENTS".
Jim, W4ATK
On Jun 16, 2007, at 6:28 AM, FireBrick wrote:

> I've posted this to the Feature Request page.
> Anyone else do a stupid thing like this? Or am I the only  
> technological
> cretin in the group?
>
>
>
> This morning, I started PWSDR and could not figure out why I had no  
> power
> out.
> Duh!. I had not flipped the Power switch on the Flex radio.
> Can the PWSDR software flash a message saying.
>
> "Radio is not turned on you stupid, fat bellied, beer guzzling idiot!"
>
>
>
> I'm used to that type of statement here.
>
>
> -
> Why do we say something is out of whack? What's a whack?
> -
>
> Bill H. in Chicagoland
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> weather at http://hhweather.webhop.org
>
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Re: [Flexradio] am I the only person to do this?

2007-06-16 Thread Jim McLester
Amen!

Message should read:
 "How do you expect me to work without being fed?"
or " Are you dumb enough to think you can get power out without power in"
or maybe even "Change the batteries, stupid!"


Jim - W4YXU
- Original Message - 
From: "FireBrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "FlexRadio List" 
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 6:28 AM
Subject: [Flexradio] am I the only person to do this?


> I've posted this to the Feature Request page.
> Anyone else do a stupid thing like this? Or am I the only technological
> cretin in the group?
>
>
>
> This morning, I started PWSDR and could not figure out why I had no power
> out.
> Duh!. I had not flipped the Power switch on the Flex radio.
> Can the PWSDR software flash a message saying.
>
> "Radio is not turned on you stupid, fat bellied, beer guzzling idiot!"
>
>
>
> I'm used to that type of statement here.
>
>
> -
> Why do we say something is out of whack? What's a whack?
> -
>
> Bill H. in Chicagoland
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Re: [Flexradio] am I the only person to do this?

2007-06-16 Thread n3evl
Haha!

Yes, I admit to having done this in the past.

Pete, N3EVL


- Original Message - 
From: "FireBrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "FlexRadio List" 
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 7:28 AM
Subject: [Flexradio] am I the only person to do this?


> I've posted this to the Feature Request page.
> Anyone else do a stupid thing like this? Or am I the only technological
> cretin in the group?
>
>
>
> This morning, I started PWSDR and could not figure out why I had no power
> out.
> Duh!. I had not flipped the Power switch on the Flex radio.
> Can the PWSDR software flash a message saying.
>
> "Radio is not turned on you stupid, fat bellied, beer guzzling idiot!"
>
>
>
> I'm used to that type of statement here.
>
>
> -
> Why do we say something is out of whack? What's a whack?
> -
>
> Bill H. in Chicagoland
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> weather at http://hhweather.webhop.org
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Re: [Flexradio] Noise floor, specifying

2007-06-16 Thread Charles Greene
David,

I'm not a practicing engineer, but I always thought Noise 
power=10*log BW.  So the noise power in a 10hz filter was 10 times 
that in a 1Hz reference.  Tell me what I am thinking of.

Chas, W1CG



At 03:05 PM 6/15/2007, Dave Haupt wrote:
>You're getting very close to instrumentation norms.
>
>Noise, by its very nature, varies in apparent strength
>by the bandwidth in which you measure it.  When
>measuring truly random noise, the power (in watts) is
>in direct proportion to the bandwidth of the filter
>used in the measurement.  Man-made noise often
>consists of thousands of semi-correlated carriers, and
>the noise power can grow faster than simply being
>proportional to BW.
>
>To be accurate, an engineer specifies noise either as
>"dBm/Hz" which means "dBm measured in a one Hertz
>bandwidth" or "watts/hz" or something like that.  It
>would also be equivalent to say "dBm measured using a
>200Hz filter" or something like that.  Audio-frequency
>guys tend to measure amplitudes in volts, at which
>point a square root gets into the picture, and you
>will read things like "nanovolts per root Hertz".
>
>Sine waves and noise are described using different
>mathematical terms and as an interesting result, to
>make a truly accurate spectrum analyzer,
>instrumentation manufacturers often use an algorithm
>to attempt to distinguish a sine wave from a noise
>function.   Anybody who's used the digitally-enhanced
>analog spectrum analyzers by HP (8566/68, 8590 and
>8560 series) has probably encountered the "noise
>marker".  The instruments are calibrated for accuracy
>with sine wave signals (or sums of sine waves - any
>repetitive waveform), and are in error, fundamentally,
>for noise. When you turn on the "noise marker", the
>instrument makes additional calculations to make the
>readings accurate for random noise.
>
>When you get down to the nitty-gritty of noise, it's
>not at all a simple subject.
>
>73,
>
>Dave W8NF
>
>
> >>From: "Doug McCormack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Noise Floor S meter vs
>Panadapter
>
> >> Thanks everyone for the quick and detailed
>explanation.  I now understand
> >> the S meter displays one sum across the entire
>width of the green filter,
> >> while the panadapter displays hundreds of sums
>across the width of each
> >> individual pixel.  When I set the filter very
>narrow (approaching one pixel)
> >> the S metter reading approaches the panadapter
>reading.
>
> >> My old Kenwood was similar in that selecting the
>narrow CW filter caused a
> >> drop in S meter noise floor.  This behavior makes
>perfect sense for any radio.
>
> >> I guess if someone asks about the noise floor, they
>need to specify at what
> >> filter width.
>
> >> 73, Doug, VE3EFC
>
>
>
>
>Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search
>that gives answers, not web links.
>http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC
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[Flexradio] am I the only person to do this?

2007-06-16 Thread FireBrick
I've posted this to the Feature Request page.
Anyone else do a stupid thing like this? Or am I the only technological 
cretin in the group?



This morning, I started PWSDR and could not figure out why I had no power 
out.
Duh!. I had not flipped the Power switch on the Flex radio.
Can the PWSDR software flash a message saying.

"Radio is not turned on you stupid, fat bellied, beer guzzling idiot!"



I'm used to that type of statement here.


-
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-

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