[Flexradio] Fatal Error

[Les Keppie]

Ok - that didnt work - no picture - here goes again

Installed .Net 1.1 and SP1
Installed PowerSDR Ver 1.16.2
Computer is Celeron 2.6g - 1g Memory - XP Pro +SP3
All installs ok - If i try to run the program PowerSDR I get the
following Fatal Error
---

Fatal Error
COM object with CLSID {0602--8000-00AA006D2EA4} is either not 
valid or not registered


 at PowerSDR.DB.Create()
 at PowerSDR.DB.Init()
 at PowerSDR.Console..ctor(String[] args)
 at PowerSDR.Console.Main(String[] args)

---
Anyone got any ideas - btw I have uninstalled all three and reinstalled 
all three and

still get the same error
I also have .Net 2 installed on the computer
Regards
Les
VK2DSG


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[Flexradio] Fatal Error

[Les Keppie]

Using 2.6g Celeron - 1g Memory - Windows XP Pro SP3
See attached picture
Have installed .Net and SP1
and then installed PowerSDR  Ver 1.16.2
Any ideas

Les VK2DSG

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Re: [Flexradio] Shielding improvements for Flex 5000A?

[Alan NV8A]

Thanks for the reply, Gerald.

But why would we not *all* want to improve the shielding by those extra 
few dB, even if the FCC doesn't tell us we have to? -- and assuming that 
the installation is not too difficult and that the cost is reasonable. 
Might help to make up for those transparent-plastic-cased PCs I see at 
my local independent computer store; how much shielding do you think 
they have? Enough to meet FCC Class anything? I doubt it.


73

Alan NV8A


On 03/23/09 11:09 am Gerald Youngblood wrote:


Hi Alan,

The shielding does not improve performance of RX2 itself.  It does allow it
to pass the CE requirements for a transceiver.  RX2 meets FCC radiated
emissions requirements without the shields.  I turns out that CE
requirements for a transceiver are 8 dB more stringent than FCC Class B.
Note that CE radiated emissions requirements for a computer are the same as
FCC class B.

Regards,
Gerald

Gerald Youngblood, K5SDR
President
FlexRadio Systems
13091 Pond Springs Rd. #250
Austin, TX 78729
Phone: 512-535-4713
www.flex-radio.com



Out of curiosity I was reading the installation instructions for RX2,
which I am thinking that I might get sometime. If I understood
correctly, the installation kit includes (at least for European
customers, if not for all) additional metal "fingers" to improve the
shielding -- presumably to meet CE standards.

Would not anything that improves the shielding be advantageous for all?
Are such "fingers" available for non-EU Flex-5000A rigs without RX2? Or
is there some approved widely available product we can use to improve
the shielding?



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Re: [Flexradio] Shielding improvements for Flex 5000A?

[knesbitt]

Gerald,
can you comment on the findings and ultimate resolution to the problems 
reported by Andy HB9CVQ re his 5000A and C model?
Thanks,

Kirb - VE6IV
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"Hi Andy,

This is the first report of this problem that we are aware of on either the
F5KC or F5KA.  I will be glad to work with you directly to find a solution.


Regards,
Gerald

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President
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Austin, TX 78729
Phone: 512-535-4713

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From: flexradio-bounces at flex-radio.biz 

[mailto:flexradio-bounces at flex-radio.biz 
] On 
Behalf Of Andy Diethard Hansen
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 10:59 AM
To: FlexRadio at flex-radio.biz 

Subject: [Flexradio] F5KC RFIO TX EMI-coupling into HTRX Board

Hi ALL

F5KC RFIO TX EMI-coupling into HTRX Board, causing CW, QSK hick-ups + RX
noise

just found an intra system EMI problem (not software) inside my F5KC and a
first (not yet sufficient) fix (ferrite):

http://www.qrz.com/detail/hb9cvq (scroll all the way down under F5KC test
report )

any comments or suggestions?

73 Andy HB9CVQ


*Snipped* from Andy's report http://www.qrz.com/detail/hb9cvq


"First EMI Field Probe
sniffing investigations (Jan./12/09), internally, inside the
F5KC, reveal uncontrolled RF TX-coupling from the HRFIO board via a
flat 10 line ribbon cable to HTRX (RFIO SV2) board. Inserting a high
permeable (4700) ferrite core (1.5 turns = 13uH- Jan./14/09) here helps
now better keeping the RF in the upper chassis compartment. QSK
operation is now feasable (60ms, 40Wpm) with the Acom 2000A for the
first time. 80m, 1kW, just using one cable: Flex TX1 PTT out, no delay
to Acom key-in. 160m is worse than 80m . On 40 to 15m all is working
fine too. Above, up to 10m, there is probably some capacitive crosstalk
and more cores over some distance are needed.

The given ribbon cable, however, is too short for a higher number of 
turns around the core. CW keying has now rarely any hick-ups and the RX 
muting noise issues have also mostly improved. A longer ribbon cable and 
consequently more windings on the ferrite/or better more ferrite beads 
along the cable, is expected to trigger major problem fixes here. This 
might turn out as relatively easy and cost-effective field fix .Smile


==

*(updated 3/8/2009)* The proposed fix with five ferrites on a longer 
ribbon cable works very well on all bands. Almost ( 60ms) QSK, using 
RX1, works ok, practically no hick-ups, but relay chatter accoustic noise.


On using RX 2, there is still RF coupling (Rx2 only audio muting) , 
mostly from the 3 thin coax cables coming from the RFIO board. Ferrites 
will be installed here too soon.


Additional improvement was made by grounding the external cable shields 
( e.g. key, PTT) to the thin galvanized groundplane under the Flex and 
Power Supply. No ESD effects on touching the key anymore. After the 
grounding the cable shield goes through a CM cable choke and internally 
100uH and 4.7nF per pin.


Generally speaking , the EMI Chassis protection principle of Zoning 
(seperation barrier in/outside) is broken by having RCA connectors, 
Key or Firewire not 360 deg. terminated to the conductive rear panel at 
cable entry. The connectors are grounded on the inside of the Flex for 
easy manufacturing, unsuitable for EMC.


Work on the thermal contest issues: presently solved by taking off the 
side covers of the chassis and using an external fan , blowing into the 
CPU compartment. Accoustic noise will have to be reduced here too in the 
future.


==

There are irregular TX-RX transitio

[Flexradio] FlexWire Device

[Phil Theis]

While Steve and I were working with Bob and Eric to get the code able to 
push FlexWire data out, I managed to get the UCB data output to a unique 
address for use by UCB owners.
I have three ways to push the data; from the low level test form; from 
the transverter form via a band change; and from the extended CAT commands.
Now we will be able to drive the original SDR-1000UCB with a FlexWire 
signal by simply setting the UCB address in the Transverter menu form.
This will be totally compatible with DDUtil and the FlexWire device that 
Steve is putting together.
With my prototype hardware and Steve's beta software I am currently 
switching bands automatically from 160 meters all the way up to 24GHz 
without ever manually touching a switch.  It's sweet.
I will be kitting a very small board that will plug into the UCB and 
take FlexWire input to drive the UCB from the Flex 5000 series of radios.

These are exciting times.
Phil K3TUF

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Re: [Flexradio] Flexwire adapter

[Lux, James P]

I agree with you Steve.. Stick with what you're working on now. 

James Lux, P.E.
Task Manager, SOMD Software Defined Radios
Flight Communications Systems Section 
Jet Propulsion Laboratory
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Pasadena, CA, 91109
+1(818)354-2075 phone
+1(818)393-6875 fax 

> -Original Message-
> From: Steve Nance [mailto:sna...@charter.net] 
> Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 11:12 AM
> To: Lux, James P; 'Brian Lloyd'; flexradio@flex-radio.biz
> Subject: RE: [Flexradio] Flexwire adapter
> 
> Brian/Jim,
> 
> Thanks for the info, but I think I'm going to stay with the 
> current plan for the time being. Especially until the new 
> architecture is debuted. It may be a whole new ball game 
> after that and the rules/goals/methods may change significantly.
> 
> 73,
> Steve K5FR
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz
> [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Lux, James P
> Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 12:15 PM
> To: Brian Lloyd; flexradio@flex-radio.biz
> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Flexwire adapter
> 
> 
> > 
> > My only comment is that using FlexWire to interface to the 
> "stunt box"
> > means that the box may only be used with Flex radios. If 
> one were to 
> > use some other interface, IP-over-Ethernet would be my 
> first choice, 
> > then it could be used with any radio in any shack as the 
> Rig Control 
> > Program could send it commands just as easily. PowerSDR can just as 
> > easily send CAT commands via a network socket as it can a dedicated 
> > Flexwire socket. Yes, it would require the "stunt box" to 
> have an IP 
> > stack in it but more and more that is available with 
> microcontrollers.
> > 
> > For example, if you don't want to have to build the network 
> stack you 
> > can start with something like the Maxim 'TINI'.
> > 
> > http://www.maxim-ic.com/products/microcontrollers/tini/
> > 
> > I am sure there are others but that is one that is just off 
> the top of 
> > my head.
> > 
> 
> 
> Or the stuff from Rabbit Semiconductor in Davis 
> http://www.rabbit.com/products/kits/
> I think the MiniCore RCM5700 has Etherenet, and the dev kit is $49.
> 
> Of course, that doesn't have a box or isolation interfaces. 
> It might not even have the RJ45 connector, although I think 
> the dev kit does have that added. 
> 
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Re: [Flexradio] Flexwire adapter

[Steve Nance]

Brian/Jim,

Thanks for the info, but I think I'm going to stay with the current plan for
the time being. Especially until the new architecture is debuted. It may be
a whole new ball game after that and the rules/goals/methods may change
significantly.

73,
Steve K5FR


-Original Message-
From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz
[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Lux, James P
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 12:15 PM
To: Brian Lloyd; flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Flexwire adapter


> 
> My only comment is that using FlexWire to interface to the "stunt box"
> means that the box may only be used with Flex radios. If one 
> were to use some other interface, IP-over-Ethernet would be 
> my first choice, then it could be used with any radio in any 
> shack as the Rig Control Program could send it commands just 
> as easily. PowerSDR can just as easily send CAT commands via 
> a network socket as it can a dedicated Flexwire socket. Yes, 
> it would require the "stunt box" to have an IP stack in it 
> but more and more that is available with microcontrollers.
> 
> For example, if you don't want to have to build the network 
> stack you can start with something like the Maxim 'TINI'.
> 
> http://www.maxim-ic.com/products/microcontrollers/tini/
> 
> I am sure there are others but that is one that is just off 
> the top of my head.
> 


Or the stuff from Rabbit Semiconductor in Davis
http://www.rabbit.com/products/kits/
I think the MiniCore RCM5700 has Etherenet, and the dev kit is $49.

Of course, that doesn't have a box or isolation interfaces. It might not
even have the RJ45 connector, although I think the dev kit does have that
added. 

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Re: [Flexradio] Flexwire adapter

[Brian Lloyd]

On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Lux, James P  wrote:
> Or the stuff from Rabbit Semiconductor in Davis
> http://www.rabbit.com/products/kits/
> I think the MiniCore RCM5700 has Etherenet, and the dev kit is $49.
>
> Of course, that doesn't have a box or isolation interfaces. It might not even 
> have the RJ45 connector, although I think the dev kit does have that added.

That does seem to be a nice platform. Lots more parallel I/O and it
even has a quadrature encoder. Use that for a big tuning knob! Heck,
it sure looks like the hardware analog to ddutil to me.

73 de Brian, WB6RQN/J79BPL

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Re: [Flexradio] Flexwire adapter

[Lux, James P]

> 
> My only comment is that using FlexWire to interface to the "stunt box"
> means that the box may only be used with Flex radios. If one 
> were to use some other interface, IP-over-Ethernet would be 
> my first choice, then it could be used with any radio in any 
> shack as the Rig Control Program could send it commands just 
> as easily. PowerSDR can just as easily send CAT commands via 
> a network socket as it can a dedicated Flexwire socket. Yes, 
> it would require the "stunt box" to have an IP stack in it 
> but more and more that is available with microcontrollers.
> 
> For example, if you don't want to have to build the network 
> stack you can start with something like the Maxim 'TINI'.
> 
> http://www.maxim-ic.com/products/microcontrollers/tini/
> 
> I am sure there are others but that is one that is just off 
> the top of my head.
> 


Or the stuff from Rabbit Semiconductor in Davis
http://www.rabbit.com/products/kits/
I think the MiniCore RCM5700 has Etherenet, and the dev kit is $49.

Of course, that doesn't have a box or isolation interfaces. It might not even 
have the RJ45 connector, although I think the dev kit does have that added. 

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Re: [Flexradio] Flexwire adapter

[Brian Lloyd]

On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 1:39 AM, Brian Morgan
 wrote:
> The Flexwire project will surely interest anyone who has an interest (as do
> I), in operating their Flex radio, remote. I know that we are largely spoilt
> by how easy it is to do so now, but it is not so easy to adjust output
> power, to control a linear amplifier and, most importantly, to be able to
> verify that the linear is following band changes that we make.
>
> Steve, I would be happy to pay in the order of $100 (which in Australian
> dollars is closer to $200 at present), so that I can regain this function
> from my old steam driven system that I used on my FT1000 MP.

My only comment is that using FlexWire to interface to the "stunt box"
means that the box may only be used with Flex radios. If one were to
use some other interface, IP-over-Ethernet would be my first choice,
then it could be used with any radio in any shack as the Rig Control
Program could send it commands just as easily. PowerSDR can just as
easily send CAT commands via a network socket as it can a dedicated
Flexwire socket. Yes, it would require the "stunt box" to have an IP
stack in it but more and more that is available with microcontrollers.

For example, if you don't want to have to build the network stack you
can start with something like the Maxim 'TINI'.

http://www.maxim-ic.com/products/microcontrollers/tini/

I am sure there are others but that is one that is just off the top of my head.

73 de Brian, WB6RQN/J79BPL

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Re: [Flexradio] Shielding improvements for Flex 5000A?

[Gerald Youngblood]

Hi Alan,

The shielding does not improve performance of RX2 itself.  It does allow it
to pass the CE requirements for a transceiver.  RX2 meets FCC radiated
emissions requirements without the shields.  I turns out that CE
requirements for a transceiver are 8 dB more stringent than FCC Class B.
Note that CE radiated emissions requirements for a computer are the same as
FCC class B.

Regards,
Gerald

Gerald Youngblood, K5SDR
President
FlexRadio Systems
13091 Pond Springs Rd. #250
Austin, TX 78729
Phone: 512-535-4713
www.flex-radio.com

"Tune in excitement!" (TM) 

-Original Message-
From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz
[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Alan NV8A
Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 8:40 PM
To: FlexRadio Reflector
Subject: [Flexradio] Shielding improvements for Flex 5000A?

Out of curiosity I was reading the installation instructions for RX2, 
which I am thinking that I might get sometime. If I understood 
correctly, the installation kit includes (at least for European 
customers, if not for all) additional metal "fingers" to improve the 
shielding -- presumably to meet CE standards.

Would not anything that improves the shielding be advantageous for all? 
Are such "fingers" available for non-EU Flex-5000A rigs without RX2? Or 
is there some approved widely available product we can use to improve 
the shielding?

73

Alan NV8A

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Re: [Flexradio] Flex 5000 wins science fair

[John Basilotto]

VBrian,

Is there a way to get a video of the kids at work with the 5000?  I am
working with a group who is making a promotional video for ham radio and
they may be interested in including a clip of the work your students did.
73

On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Brian Lloyd  wrote:

> Thanks to everyone who replied. There seem to be enough questions that
> I am going to provide more detail on the projects.
>
> Two boys, Joshua Fournier, KI6PJW (Gen), and Michael Binon, KI6QOC
> (Tech), set out to build a totally-self-contained portable HF station
> that is small enough to fit into a backpack and still allow them to
> carry necessities for survival. Michael is in sixth-grade and a Boy
> Scout well on his way toward earning his Eagle Scout rating. He and
> Josh both like to hike so decided that it would be cool to take the
> radio with them. The goal was to have it be completely self-contained
> and provide its own power regardless of the duration of the hike,
> hence the desire for solar power to keep the battery charged.
>
> Last year I had students who tried to do projects together which did
> not work out. One student ended up doing most of the work and the
> results were clearly not a team effort. This year I told them that
> they could not collaborate and must each produce an individual
> project. That way one student's failure to perform would not impact
> another student. Since both Michael and Joshua had an interest in
> constructing the backpack station, I suggested that they define it as
> two separate engineering problems to solve and then each could solve
> their own particular problem independent of the other. Joshua took on
> the problem of the power system and physical design while Michael
> tackled the problem of selecting the best antenna to go in the
> backpack.
>
> Joshua's problem was pretty straight-forward:
>
> 1. do a power budget to determine required battery capacity;
> 2. select an appropriate battery technology (LiPoly, NiMH, or lead-acid);
> 3. determine necessary PV panel size;
> 4. come up with a rugged, adjustable mounting for the PV panel that
> would allow room for the rest of the stuff in the backpack, e.g.
> sleeping bag, tent, food, water, etc.
>
> Joshua even provided a fall-back position on the antenna by building
> and testing a center-fed, non-resonant doublet fed with 300-ohm
> twin-lead and tuned with a small, balanced-line tuner.
>
> Josh did some serious engineering. He would come up with ideas, sketch
> them in his engineering notebook, bounce his ideas off of me, research
> materials, and then go build. He got his father and grandfather to
> help with metal fabrication. I wish that some of the engineers that I
> once had working for me did work of this quality.
>
> Michael discovered about half-way into his project that antennas are a
> much more difficult topic than he originally anticipated. He had some
> real false starts and darned near broke up his parents' marriage
> getting his father, who knows nothing about radio, to help. I had to
> take a more proactive role and guide him through understanding the
> various antenna types and their construction.
>
> His original plan was to build 1/10th scale model antennas at 2M and
> test those as neither he nor I had come up with a way to test antennas
> in real-time with the same signal. Instead we were going to use my
> miniVNA to measure path-loss in the far-field. Being able to quickly
> build and test scale antennas gave him a much better understanding of
> what was happening. It also left our technology lab at school looking
> like a spider web with students having to crawl on the floor to get to
> open workspace. :-)
>
> About that time I was talking about multiple receivers in the F5K vs.
> the K3. We were talking about diversity reception and a light bulb
> went on for me. I suggested to Michael that he use the F5K to measure
> two antennas simultaneously. He came up with a test plan using the
> dipole as the reference antenna against which to test each of the
> other antennas; i.e. 1-wave delta loop, 1/4-wave ground plane, and
> end-fed non-resonant wire. Michael drew up a layout for the antennas
> which would minimize interaction and  collected materials. The head
> administrator for the school gave him leave to use his classmates and
> class time to set up his antenna test range as a practice run setting
> up antennas for field-day. (Field Day at our school is an official
> school event.)
>
> Nothing went according to plan. Everything took three times longer
> than planned and Michael only managed to get his data last weekend.
> Still, it was good data. He used PSK31 signals as his test signals
> because they are narrow, constant power, and all the power is
> concentrated close in to the carrier allowing narrow filters to
> minimize power from adjacent signals and to provide good S:N. The only
> problem was, last weekend was a big PSK31 contest and it took real
> skill to collect data points with the qu

Re: [Flexradio] Flex software: SCM Matrix

[Lux, James P]

On 3/23/09 4:59 AM, "Frank Goenninger"  wrote:

> Well, I read the entries in the Support Matrix as "this combination of
> software pieces is tested and supported.  Any other combination might
> or might not work."

I read it the same way..

> 
> In the Release Notes for each of the components a more detailed
> dependency description might be given for those of us who love to try
> for ourselves. But I see this as optional. Reading the code makes it
> clear.

Which code, which module, etc would you read?  I don't think there's any
comments that say "this code works only with Vx.y.z. Of the firmware) I
doubt that anyone even tests backward compatibility at Flex, except
incidentally.  That is, does someone load up an old version of PowerSDR and
see if it works with a F5K with new firmware.

The original question was whether if you loaded an old version of PowerSDR
(for whatever reason) would it still work with a F5K with new firmware. I
don't know that the question could be answered by looking the comments. The
writers of the old PowerSDR didn't even KNOW that the new firmware versions
would exist, and the firmware isn't open source, so you can't look there.
Nor is there any published description of the interface between PowerSDR and
the firmware other than inference from reading the source code.


> 
> Am 22.03.2009 um 22:16 schrieb Lux, James P:
> 
>> Yes.. Partially.. What I was suggesting is documenting any
>> incompatibilities..
>> For instance, if v1.3.0.0 firmware is loaded, will PowerSDR 1.10.4
>> work?, or
>> does V.1.3.0.0 *require* something in Power SDR 1.16.xx
>> 
>> 
>> On 3/22/09 11:07 AM, "Tim Ellison"  wrote:
>> 
>>> That has been done a while back.  It is in the Knowledge Center.
>>> http://kc.flex-radio.com/KnowledgebaseArticle50361.aspx
>>> 
>>> On 3/22/09 7:46 AM, "Tim Ellison"  wrote:
>>> 
 Yes, it will unless the newer version requires a newer firmware
 upgrade
 (dependency) to operate.  Then you would have to downgrade the
 firmware (and possibly the driver depending on how far back you
 go) to
 make the older version work.
 


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Re: [Flexradio] Flex software: SCM Matrix

[Frank Goenninger]

Well, I read the entries in the Support Matrix as "this combination of  
software pieces is tested and supported.  Any other combination might  
or might not work."


In the Release Notes for each of the components a more detailed  
dependency description might be given for those of us who love to try  
for ourselves. But I see this as optional. Reading the code makes it  
clear.


73 de

   Frank DG1SBG

Am 22.03.2009 um 22:16 schrieb Lux, James P:


Yes.. Partially.. What I was suggesting is documenting any
incompatibilities..
For instance, if v1.3.0.0 firmware is loaded, will PowerSDR 1.10.4  
work?, or

does V.1.3.0.0 *require* something in Power SDR 1.16.xx


On 3/22/09 11:07 AM, "Tim Ellison"  wrote:


That has been done a while back.  It is in the Knowledge Center.
http://kc.flex-radio.com/KnowledgebaseArticle50361.aspx

On 3/22/09 7:46 AM, "Tim Ellison"  wrote:


Yes, it will unless the newer version requires a newer firmware
upgrade
(dependency) to operate.  Then you would have to downgrade the
firmware (and possibly the driver depending on how far back you  
go) to

make the older version work.



If this is the case, it might be useful to (eventually) publish a  
list of
what software is compatible with which firmware.   I'm sort of  
surprised
that the firmware wouldn't be backward compatible (i.e. That  
firmware wouldn't
support older software).. That's usually a basic design  
requirement, unless
the "old interface" is so clunky or bugridden that it's just not  
worth

supporting.

JIm





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Re: [Flexradio] Flexwire adapter

[Brian Morgan]

Hello Fellow Flexers and especially to Steve K5FR.



The Flexwire project will surely interest anyone who has an interest 
(as do I), in operating their Flex radio, remote. I know that we are 
largely spoilt by how easy it is to do so now, but it is not so easy 
to adjust output power, to control a linear amplifier and, most 
importantly, to be able to verify that the linear is following band 
changes that we make.


Steve, I would be happy to pay in the order of $100 (which in 
Australian dollars is closer to $200 at present), so that I can 
regain this function from my old steam driven system that I used on 
my FT1000 MP.


73 Brian VK7RR




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