[Flexradio] SDR 1.8.1 and WSJT not playing nice

2009-06-27 Thread Mark Lunday
Excellent knowledge center article on how to config:
http://kc.flex-radio.com/KnowledgebaseArticle50362.aspx?Keywords=wsjt

 

The problem is that WSJT 7 on my Vista machine crashes.  The audio driver
panel shows all 10 channels, and attempts to open 0 and 3, but then crashes
with an error -9998 too many channels.  I can't ever get to the setup option
to change the audio channel selection.  Anyone else seen this behavior?

 

 

Mark Lunday

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[Flexradio] F3K and 6 meters

2009-06-27 Thread Mark Lunday
I am a relative newcomer to 6 meters, just getting my feet wet.  I was using
my TS480 for 6, until.oh.three days ago when my F3K arrived.  TS480 just
collecting dust now!

 

But I have spent most of the daylight hours over the last three days on 6
meters, with my 2 element hex beam at 40 feet.  I can only compare my Flex
to the TS480 (which did really good for me this summer on Es so far).

 

Well, the F3K seems pretty amazing.  I heard two European stations this
afternoon on CW on 6.  NEVER heard that before.  Very weak, but they were
there.  I did not try and call them, the pileups were notable.  But the
receiver on the F3K certainly, to me at least, seems to be performing quite
well on 6 meters.  I have read the other threads on this, and its nice to
get a rig where I don't have to add another pre-amp to get it working as I
want it.

 

Thanks, Flex Radio team, for another great feature!

 

 

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[Flexradio] 6 meters recieve on 5000

2009-06-27 Thread Ed Helms
I guess I just dont understand why the 5000 needs to have a preamp on 6
meters. I will admit I like my 5000 better than my IC-7800 in every catagory
except the recieve on 6 meters. The Flex, if we were scoring on a scale of 0
to 10, is about a 3 at best on 6 meter recieve compared to my 7800. Why cant
there be a additional module or mod for the 5000 so it is up to par out of
the box. No add on preamps. Just does not make sense to pay that much for a
rig and it needs a recieve preamp on 6. Dont get me wrong, I love the Flex
and would recommend it over any rig. I just think they missed the mark on
this issue.
N4zvn
Ed
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[Flexradio] flex 5000 laptop operation with windows 7

2009-06-27 Thread Jim
In the spirit of experimentation I attempted to run my 5000a with my Lenovo
X61 laptop running windows 7 rc1 with a trendnet tfw-h2pc 2 port PCMI
firewire card.

 

The card was detected and pronounced operational by the operating system.

 

I installed the firewire driver downloading the driver from the flex web
site dated 4/29/09 it installed properly

 

I then downloaded and installed power SDR. It prompted me that .net needed
to be installed and so I did that.

 

I then restarted the computer completed the install of powersdr 1.18.1 and
launched it.

 

Powersdr brought up the dos window where it does the fft checks. It then
brought up a window where a progress bar indicated percentage of completion.
At about 60% complete an error message came up saying it could not
communicate with the radio and to please try again.

 

Even though I power cycled the radio and restarted powersdr in various
combinations, I still get this communications error.

 

What's the best way forward to get this to work?

 

Thanks very much

Jim

WD7W

 

 

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Re: [Flexradio] flex 5000 laptop operation with windows 7

2009-06-27 Thread Dave

Hi Jim,

You need to go into device manager and change the 1394 firewire driver to 
the legacy driver that is included with Windows 7.


Dave
wo2x


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From: Jim technology.mag...@verizon.net
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 9:41 AM
To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: [Flexradio] flex 5000 laptop operation with windows 7

In the spirit of experimentation I attempted to run my 5000a with my 
Lenovo

X61 laptop running windows 7 rc1 with a trendnet tfw-h2pc 2 port PCMI
firewire card.



The card was detected and pronounced operational by the operating system.



I installed the firewire driver downloading the driver from the flex web
site dated 4/29/09 it installed properly



I then downloaded and installed power SDR. It prompted me that .net needed
to be installed and so I did that.



I then restarted the computer completed the install of powersdr 1.18.1 and
launched it.



Powersdr brought up the dos window where it does the fft checks. It then
brought up a window where a progress bar indicated percentage of 
completion.

At about 60% complete an error message came up saying it could not
communicate with the radio and to please try again.



Even though I power cycled the radio and restarted powersdr in various
combinations, I still get this communications error.



What's the best way forward to get this to work?



Thanks very much

Jim

WD7W





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Re: [Flexradio] 6 meters recieve on 5000

2009-06-27 Thread Dennis Petrich
I agree with Ed's comments, I'm looking at a 5k but it bothers me that I 
will need to add a 6m preamp!!


Thats my only issue, otherwise I think the Felx is a really exellent radio!!

Congrats to all the hard work from the Flex engineers!

Dennis, k0eoo



- Original Message - 
From: Ed Helms n4z...@gmail.com

To: flex radio FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 7:20 AM
Subject: [Flexradio] 6 meters recieve on 5000



I guess I just dont understand why the 5000 needs to have a preamp on 6
meters. I will admit I like my 5000 better than my IC-7800 in every 
catagory
except the recieve on 6 meters. The Flex, if we were scoring on a scale of 
0
to 10, is about a 3 at best on 6 meter recieve compared to my 7800. Why 
cant

there be a additional module or mod for the 5000 so it is up to par out of
the box. No add on preamps. Just does not make sense to pay that much for 
a

rig and it needs a recieve preamp on 6. Dont get me wrong, I love the Flex
and would recommend it over any rig. I just think they missed the mark on
this issue.
N4zvn
Ed
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Re: [Flexradio] 6 meters recieve on 5000

2009-06-27 Thread Kevin Hobbs
What's the big deal ... 

Solution 1: Don't worry about, it's not all that bad, and when the band is
open, its open ... you may miss a few weak ones.
Solution 2: Add an external 6m Power Amp that also has a preamp.
Solution 3: Add any one of the nice external preamps to the convenient RX
IN/OUT Loop that Flex conveniently engineered in to provide a  flexible
and easy way to improve to anyone's personal taste.

I only operate 6m these days ... so my complaint is more like why is that
other useless junk in the 5000A (HF, Tuner, etc) (haha)

KH




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From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz
[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Dennis Petrich
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 10:32 AM
To: Ed Helms; flex radio
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] 6 meters recieve on 5000

I agree with Ed's comments, I'm looking at a 5k but it bothers me that I 
will need to add a 6m preamp!!

Thats my only issue, otherwise I think the Felx is a really exellent radio!!

Congrats to all the hard work from the Flex engineers!

Dennis, k0eoo



- Original Message - 
From: Ed Helms n4z...@gmail.com
To: flex radio FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 7:20 AM
Subject: [Flexradio] 6 meters recieve on 5000


I guess I just dont understand why the 5000 needs to have a preamp on 6
 meters. I will admit I like my 5000 better than my IC-7800 in every 
 catagory
 except the recieve on 6 meters. The Flex, if we were scoring on a scale of

 0
 to 10, is about a 3 at best on 6 meter recieve compared to my 7800. Why 
 cant
 there be a additional module or mod for the 5000 so it is up to par out of
 the box. No add on preamps. Just does not make sense to pay that much for 
 a
 rig and it needs a recieve preamp on 6. Dont get me wrong, I love the Flex
 and would recommend it over any rig. I just think they missed the mark on
 this issue.
 N4zvn
 Ed
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Re: [Flexradio] 6 meters receive on 5000

2009-06-27 Thread Clay W7CE
With all of the great features of this radio, this is one of the very few 
shortcomings and it can solved with a $79 preamp from ARR.  The 5000A even 
has the preamp in/out BNC connectors on the rear panel so all you have to do 
is connect it and check a box in the Antenna dialog box.  Even cooler, you 
can specify the preamp gain, so the S-Meter continues to read accurately 
(and according to my calibrated HP signal generator, it is accurate to 
below -140 dBm) when the preamp is enabled.


6M is my favorite band and my 756 ProIII has been very lonely since I got 
the 5000A.  I just added a 2nd preamp to the RX2 input and am putting up a 
2nd 6M antenna today so that I can listen on both receivers at once (RX1 on 
the left ear and RX2 on the right ear).  Antenna 1 is 9el at 48' and antenna 
2 will be 7el at 95'.  I can look for beacons while monitoring the calling 
frequency or use it for diversity reception when signals are coming in at 
differing arrival angles.  Yesterday, with a single antenna, I was decoding 
FSK441 on 50.260 (RX2) while listening to the band starting to open on 
50.125 (RX1).  I could never do that with the 756 ProIII.  Also, the noise 
blanker really works.  I've copied Q5 signals that were 4 S-units below the 
power-line noise.


Don't let this one thing stop you from getting a really great radio.  I 
don't think you'll ever regret it.


73,
Clay  W7CE

- Original Message - 
From: Dennis Petrich radio...@frontiernet.net

To: Ed Helms n4z...@gmail.com; flex radio FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 7:32 AM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] 6 meters recieve on 5000


I agree with Ed's comments, I'm looking at a 5k but it bothers me that I 
will need to add a 6m preamp!!


Thats my only issue, otherwise I think the Felx is a really exellent 
radio!!


Congrats to all the hard work from the Flex engineers!

Dennis, k0eoo



- Original Message - 
From: Ed Helms n4z...@gmail.com

To: flex radio FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 7:20 AM
Subject: [Flexradio] 6 meters recieve on 5000



I guess I just dont understand why the 5000 needs to have a preamp on 6
meters. I will admit I like my 5000 better than my IC-7800 in every 
catagory
except the recieve on 6 meters. The Flex, if we were scoring on a scale 
of 0
to 10, is about a 3 at best on 6 meter recieve compared to my 7800. Why 
cant
there be a additional module or mod for the 5000 so it is up to par out 
of
the box. No add on preamps. Just does not make sense to pay that much for 
a
rig and it needs a recieve preamp on 6. Dont get me wrong, I love the 
Flex

and would recommend it over any rig. I just think they missed the mark on
this issue.
N4zvn
Ed
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Re: [Flexradio] 6 meters recieve on 5000

2009-06-27 Thread Dennis Petrich
Don't get me wrong guys, I really like the Flex too and will probably just 
go the external 6m preamp like you-all and be done with it


Dennis, k0eoo


- Original Message - 
From: Bob McGwier rwmcgw...@gmail.com

To: flex radio FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 9:53 AM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] 6 meters recieve on 5000


If you look outside of your own personal needs you will see that the Flex 
5000 was Flex's first really serious entry into high performance 
transceivers.  As much as the SDR-1000 changed the world for me 
personally,  it was never meant to be a high end transceiver project. That 
it got as far as it did bespeaks of the tenacity and cleverness of its 
designer.


On the Flex 5000, though it is Flex's first major entry, it made it at the 
top of the list of entries in receiver performance on Sherwood Engineering 
and ARRL test sites and is still in the top two or three. The Flex 5000 
has extremely good performance for HF low bands.  Flex 5000 would not sell 
well if it had poor low band performance and there would be no 3000 if 
that were the case is my short version of my opinions on this matter.  The 
3000 does NOT equal the 5000 in receiver performance on the low bands.  I 
think most will agree that operating well on 160m-20m is more important to 
sales than 6m.


It takes a very inexpensive preamp for 6m to make it a top performer and 
it is a complete triviality to hook it into the loop provided on the back 
of the radio and adjust the operation to automatically use that preamp on 
6 and on 6 only.


Bob
N4HY


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[Flexradio] For Sale HP Z3801A GPS

2009-06-27 Thread Gary Crabtree
I have a HP Z3801A GPS for sale with disk, antenna and power supply.  Asking
$350.00 plus shipping.  I used this with my Flex SDR-1000 and no longer need
it.  Pictures on request.


KB8RQ, Gary
24X13 element horizontal
24X9 element vertical
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[Flexradio] Why a 6Meter Preamp Is Needed

2009-06-27 Thread Larry Savage

The Flex 5000A currently has a noise figure of approx. 16 to 20dB at an MDS 
of approx. -126dBm..Addition of a low noise figure preamp ($100) can 
substantially improve the receiver noise figure but is not mandatory for normal 
operation. My reference rig is the Icom Pro III which has a 6 meter MDS of 
approx. -142dBm with a noise figure of approx. 5 to 8dB...With an 
appropriate preamp the Flex can reach this level of performance with a better 
dynamic range to boot..Other brand rigs have the same problem as the Flex 
5000A (ex K3 sells a 6M preamp) when it comes to sensitivity and noise 
figure.The preamp is only needed if you wish to do weak signal work..   
 In general one should consider the total system noise figure of the 
stationOne of the best performance improvements can be had by reducing the 
feedline losses.Losses in the receiver front end directly reduce the 
receiver noise figure and feedline affects both TX and RX performance.There 
are many other metrics one should consider in rig performanceI own several 
of the top-end rigs and have found the Flex 5000A beats them hands down in 
overall receiver performanceThe receiver dynamic range (weakest to 
strongest signal) for the Flex is phenominal..The receiver noise reduction 
along with the filtering is additionally on par with  $10K rigs.
In the words of an old timer.spend all your money on the antenna and 
feedline if you have any money left over buy a rig..

73s WA4CAX... 
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Re: [Flexradio] Why a 6Meter Preamp Is Needed

2009-06-27 Thread Dennis Petrich

Thanks for the input Larry, that puts it into perspective; which helps

Dennis, k0eoo


- Original Message - 
From: Larry Savage sava...@hotmail.com

To: Flex List flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 10:50 AM
Subject: [Flexradio] Why a 6Meter Preamp Is Needed




   The Flex 5000A currently has a noise figure of approx. 16 to 20dB at an 
MDS of approx. -126dBm..Addition of a low noise figure preamp ($100) 
can substantially improve the receiver noise figure but is not mandatory 
for normal operation. My reference rig is the Icom Pro III which has a 
6 meter MDS of approx. -142dBm with a noise figure of approx. 5 to 
8dB...With an appropriate preamp the Flex can reach this level of 
performance with a better dynamic range to boot..Other brand rigs have 
the same problem as the Flex 5000A (ex K3 sells a 6M preamp) when it comes 
to sensitivity and noise figure.The preamp is only needed if you wish 
to do weak signal work..In general one should consider the total 
system noise figure of the stationOne of the best performance 
improvements can be had by reducing the feedline losses.Losses in the 
receiver front end directly reduce the receiver noise figure and feedline 
affects both TX and RX performance.There
 are many other metrics one should consider in rig performanceI own 
several of the top-end rigs and have found the Flex 5000A beats them hands 
down in overall receiver performanceThe receiver dynamic range 
(weakest to strongest signal) for the Flex is phenominal..The receiver 
noise reduction along with the filtering is additionally on par with  
$10K rigs.
In the words of an old timer.spend all your money on the antenna and 
feedline if you have any money left over buy a rig..


73s WA4CAX...
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Re: [Flexradio] 6 meters recieve on 5000

2009-06-27 Thread Duane - N9DG


Solution 4:, or perhaps a better term Option 4: is to use a 6M transverter. 
This is particularly practical if you already have one that has the front end 
and system noise figure that you need and want. It also provides you with the 
ability to add additional IF radios, SDR or otherwise into the station's 
configuration. The main downside that I can see is that you will loose the 
benefits of the precise frequency control/readout/stability of the 5000 since 
most all transverters are off and/or drift a bit. Though with 6M transverters 
that is usually not a very noticeable problem.

I anticipate that will be the route that I will go with once the Flex-1500's 
hit the street. I already have all my 6M - 70 cm transverters setup for split 
RX/TX IF's and am feeding multiple IF (RX) radios for each of my 6M - 70cm 
transverters already. So I'm currently envisioning at least one 1500 per band, 
and then perhaps one or two additional (HW) RX's of some description for each 
of those bands. In my case doing that more or less represents just pulling out 
the current fleet of Ten Tec Pegasus IF radios and then dropping the 
Flex-1500's in their place.

Duane
N9DG  

--- On Sat, 6/27/09, Kevin Hobbs ve...@cogeco.ca wrote:

 From: Kevin Hobbs ve...@cogeco.ca
 Subject: Re: [Flexradio] 6 meters recieve on 5000
 To: 'Dennis Petrich' radio...@frontiernet.net, 'Ed Helms' 
 n4z...@gmail.com, 'flex radio' FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz
 Date: Saturday, June 27, 2009, 9:46 AM
 What's the big deal ... 
 
 Solution 1: Don't worry about, it's not all that bad, and
 when the band is
 open, its open ... you may miss a few weak ones.
 Solution 2: Add an external 6m Power Amp that also has a
 preamp.
 Solution 3: Add any one of the nice external preamps to the
 convenient RX
 IN/OUT Loop that Flex conveniently engineered in to
 provide a  flexible
 and easy way to improve to anyone's personal taste.
 
 I only operate 6m these days ... so my complaint is more
 like why is that
 other useless junk in the 5000A (HF, Tuner, etc) (haha)
 
 KH
 



  

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Re: [Flexradio] SDR 1.8.1 and WSJT not playing nice

2009-06-27 Thread Mark Lunday
Problem resolved, thanks for the help.


Mark Lunday
WD4ELG
wd4...@arrl.net
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Subject: [Flexradio] SDR 1.8.1 and WSJT not playing nice

Excellent knowledge center article on how to config:
http://kc.flex-radio.com/KnowledgebaseArticle50362.aspx?Keywords=wsjt

 

The problem is that WSJT 7 on my Vista machine crashes.  The audio driver
panel shows all 10 channels, and attempts to open 0 and 3, but then crashes
with an error -9998 too many channels.  I can't ever get to the setup option
to change the audio channel selection.  Anyone else seen this behavior?

 

 

Mark Lunday

WD4ELG

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 http://wd4elg.net http://wd4elg.net

 

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Re: [Flexradio] 6 meters recieve on 5000

2009-06-27 Thread Philip M. Lanese
Also -- Everyone who gets seriously interested in weak signal VHF/UHF operation
quickly learns that the ONLY place to put a pre-amp, tailored for each band of
interest, is as close to the antenna as humanly possible (usually in an
enclosure close to the top of the tower).

This allows SHORT runs of *expensive*, LOW loss cable between the antenna and
the pre-amp and lower cost, more lossy, runs of cable between the pre-amp and
the receiver/transverter in use.

No manufacturer can build the kind of performance gain that is provided by this
simple add-on into a production radio.  PHYSICS rules the game.

Phil, K3IB

- Original Message - 
From: Bob McGwier rwmcgw...@gmail.com
To: flex radio FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 10:53 AM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] 6 meters recieve on 5000


 If you look outside of your own personal needs you will see that the
 Flex 5000 was Flex's first really serious entry into high performance
 transceivers.  As much as the SDR-1000 changed the world for me
 personally,  it was never meant to be a high end transceiver project.
 That it got as far as it did bespeaks of the tenacity and cleverness of
 its designer.

 On the Flex 5000, though it is Flex's first major entry, it made it at
 the top of the list of entries in receiver performance on Sherwood
 Engineering and ARRL test sites and is still in the top two or three.
 The Flex 5000 has extremely good performance for HF low bands.  Flex
 5000 would not sell well if it had poor low band performance and there
 would be no 3000 if that were the case is my short version of my
 opinions on this matter.  The 3000 does NOT equal the 5000 in receiver
 performance on the low bands.  I think most will agree that operating
 well on 160m-20m is more important to sales than 6m.

 It takes a very inexpensive preamp for 6m to make it a top performer and
 it is a complete triviality to hook it into the loop provided on the
 back of the radio and adjust the operation to automatically use that
 preamp on 6 and on 6 only.

 Bob
 N4HY



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Re: [Flexradio] 6 meters recieve on 5000

2009-06-27 Thread Simon (HB9DRV)
- Original Message - 
From: Philip M. Lanese l31ne...@epix.net


No manufacturer can build the kind of performance gain that is provided by 
this

simple add-on into a production radio.  PHYSICS rules the game.




But for 6m a good built-in pre-amp will overcome the lack of sensitivity - 
as with my TS-480SAT and FT-950. On 2m / 70cms I use external SSB 
Electronics masthead pre-amps. On 6m loss from decent co-ax is not too 
significant - I use ~ 8m of aircell 7 at the moment on 6m and the loss is  
0.5dB.


IMO the complaint about lack of sensitivity is valid - I don't own a new 
model Flex yet and I sold my SDR-1000, but when I get around to buying a new 
Flex or other SDR receiver I'll also have to factor in a 6m pre-amp.


Simon Brown, HB9DRV
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Re: [Flexradio] SDR 1.8.1 and WSJT not playing nice

2009-06-27 Thread Tim Ellison
Please share the solution so others can benefit.

-Tim

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 27, 2009, at 12:44 PM, Mark Lunday mlun...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 Problem resolved, thanks for the help.


 Mark Lunday
 WD4ELG
 wd4...@arrl.net
 http://wd4elg.net

 -Original Message-
 From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz
 [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Mark Lunday
 Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 2:29 AM
 To: 'FlexRadio List'
 Subject: [Flexradio] SDR 1.8.1 and WSJT not playing nice

 Excellent knowledge center article on how to config:
 http://kc.flex-radio.com/KnowledgebaseArticle50362.aspx?Keywords=wsjt



 The problem is that WSJT 7 on my Vista machine crashes.  The audio  
 driver
 panel shows all 10 channels, and attempts to open 0 and 3, but then  
 crashes
 with an error -9998 too many channels.  I can't ever get to the  
 setup option
 to change the audio channel selection.  Anyone else seen this  
 behavior?





 Mark Lunday

 WD4ELG

 mailto:wd4...@arrl.net wd4...@arrl.net

 http://wd4elg.net http://wd4elg.net



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Re: [Flexradio] 6 meters receive on 5000

2009-06-27 Thread Tim Ellison
This is exactly the route I took.  I have approximately 160' of coax from the 
antenna to the transceiver, so I installed a SSB mast mounted preamp for 6m.  
Works great.  No regrets.


-Tim


-Original Message-
From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz 
[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Philip M. Lanese
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 12:45 PM
To: Bob McGwier; flex radio
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] 6 meters recieve on 5000

Also -- Everyone who gets seriously interested in weak signal VHF/UHF operation
quickly learns that the ONLY place to put a pre-amp, tailored for each band of
interest, is as close to the antenna as humanly possible (usually in an
enclosure close to the top of the tower).

This allows SHORT runs of *expensive*, LOW loss cable between the antenna and
the pre-amp and lower cost, more lossy, runs of cable between the pre-amp and
the receiver/transverter in use.

No manufacturer can build the kind of performance gain that is provided by this
simple add-on into a production radio.  PHYSICS rules the game.

Phil, K3IB

- Original Message - 
From: Bob McGwier rwmcgw...@gmail.com
To: flex radio FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 10:53 AM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] 6 meters recieve on 5000


 If you look outside of your own personal needs you will see that the
 Flex 5000 was Flex's first really serious entry into high performance
 transceivers.  As much as the SDR-1000 changed the world for me
 personally,  it was never meant to be a high end transceiver project.
 That it got as far as it did bespeaks of the tenacity and cleverness of
 its designer.

 On the Flex 5000, though it is Flex's first major entry, it made it at
 the top of the list of entries in receiver performance on Sherwood
 Engineering and ARRL test sites and is still in the top two or three.
 The Flex 5000 has extremely good performance for HF low bands.  Flex
 5000 would not sell well if it had poor low band performance and there
 would be no 3000 if that were the case is my short version of my
 opinions on this matter.  The 3000 does NOT equal the 5000 in receiver
 performance on the low bands.  I think most will agree that operating
 well on 160m-20m is more important to sales than 6m.

 It takes a very inexpensive preamp for 6m to make it a top performer and
 it is a complete triviality to hook it into the loop provided on the
 back of the radio and adjust the operation to automatically use that
 preamp on 6 and on 6 only.

 Bob
 N4HY



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Re: [Flexradio] 6 meters receive on 5000

2009-06-27 Thread Lee A Crocker
In addition you will soon be able to do steerable dual diversity with 2 
receivers.  Quite useful for hearing under the noise

I also think is a bit laughable there is kvetching over adding a 10$ CATV amp 
to the amp loop.  

http://www.allelectronics.com/index.php?page=searchsearch_query=catvx=0y=0

73  W9OY


  
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[Flexradio] Quickplay Rec/Play files sound like static

2009-06-27 Thread Gary Mackey
Hi All,

For some reason when I do a quick record / playback my playback sounds
like statics when played back through PowerSDR but sounds normal using
a program like Windows Media Player. I had it working before, I'm sure
I changed a setting some place when getting my digital modes working.
This happens with both PowerSDR 1.18.1 and 1.19.0 SVN 3105. Any
suggestions?

73,
...Gary,K8EHB

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[Flexradio] F3K Shiptime, comments on Flex-3000

2009-06-27 Thread gelatin...@juno.com
Just got my 3K with about a 2 1/2 week ship time.  I ordered on June 5th at the 
SeaPac hamfest and it arrived on June 24th.  

This is an excellent replacement for my SDR-1000.  Setup was very easy using 
the same computer (1.8Ghz with 500meg of ram). The improvements are fantastic 
in the pan-adapter, power out on 6 meters, overall sensitivity, and the single 
wire to the computer. The tuner is not the greatest with my Windom, so I still 
use an external tuner.  I really  like not having images on the pan-adapter on 
the higher bands.  

The only downside so far is that it seems to have more images from AM broadcast 
stations on 160.  The 1000 had almost none (especially with the software? 
filter that was available). 

Pretty Betty is a fantastic improvement, though it definitely is more intensive 
with the older computer I use. 


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Re: [Flexradio] Quickplay Rec/Play files sound like static

2009-06-27 Thread Larry da Ponte

I believe you must be in tx mode when you play back.


-Larry


On Jun 27, 2009, at 11:12 AM, Gary Mackey garymac...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi All,

For some reason when I do a quick record / playback my playback sounds
like statics when played back through PowerSDR but sounds normal using
a program like Windows Media Player. I had it working before, I'm sure
I changed a setting some place when getting my digital modes working.
This happens with both PowerSDR 1.18.1 and 1.19.0 SVN 3105. Any
suggestions?

73,
...Gary,K8EHB

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Re: [Flexradio] 6 meters receive on 5000

2009-06-27 Thread Mark Lunday
As you have pointed out on your blog, Lee, the dual diversity is something
quite amazing and helpful with decoding weak CWI believe the net effect is
the same as phased array radars, which can be steered and signals combined.
Kind of how the human ears work as separate sensors (sorry, my Electrical
Engineering background coming out, cannot help it, love that signal
processing concept stuff)


Mark Lunday
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Re: [Flexradio] SDR 1.8.1 and WSJT not playing nice

2009-06-27 Thread Mark Lunday
Sure Tim.

Someone on the WSJT Yahoo group (Jerry Siegmund) provided me this info:

/QUOTE/

Mark.. I was having the same problem hr ! Advice I got from Joe K1JT;
You have requested an audio device for output that does not have two
channels.  (Probably it is an input device?) 

Delete your WSJT.INI file, restart the program, look at the list of audio
devices in the console window, select the desired device numbers for input
and output, exit and then restart the program.

/END QUOTE/


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Re: [Flexradio] F3K Shiptime, comments on Flex-3000

2009-06-27 Thread Tim Ellison
What version of PowerSDR are you using?


-Tim


-Original Message-
From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz 
[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of gelatin...@juno.com
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 2:20 PM
To: gelatin...@juno.com
Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] F3K Shiptime, comments on Flex-3000

Just got my 3K with about a 2 1/2 week ship time.  I ordered on June 5th at the 
SeaPac hamfest and it arrived on June 24th.  

This is an excellent replacement for my SDR-1000.  Setup was very easy using 
the same computer (1.8Ghz with 500meg of ram). The improvements are fantastic 
in the pan-adapter, power out on 6 meters, overall sensitivity, and the single 
wire to the computer. The tuner is not the greatest with my Windom, so I still 
use an external tuner.  I really  like not having images on the pan-adapter on 
the higher bands.  

The only downside so far is that it seems to have more images from AM broadcast 
stations on 160.  The 1000 had almost none (especially with the software? 
filter that was available). 

Pretty Betty is a fantastic improvement, though it definitely is more intensive 
with the older computer I use. 

George
N7BUI


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[Flexradio] High SWR - how protected is the F3K?

2009-06-27 Thread Mark Lunday
Some of us (not mentioning any names!) may, in our senility, make a mistake
and select the wrong antenna amongst the various switches and panels.

 

If one does get confused in the shack and should accidentally pick the wrong
arial within the rats nest of coax, what protection is there for the F3K?
Does a power-limiting feature or protection circuit exist?

 

 

Mark Lunday

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[Flexradio] I made a few more...

2009-06-27 Thread Pete M
With all the talk about preamps...I wound up being rev'd up enough,  that I got 
the missing parts ( connectors) and managed to make 4 more 6 m preamps that 
make the Flex 5000a come alive.  So for those that were interested I have 4 
more remaining now.  These are super low noise .35dbnf or better ... and are  
$75 + shipping.  Now I am out of other parts so it will be awhile before I make 
any more (if ever).

Thanks, Pete WA2ODO

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[Flexradio] 160 meter filter RE: F3K Shiptime, comments on Flex-3000

2009-06-27 Thread vtnn43e


The only downside so far is that it seems to have more images from AM 
broadcast stations on 160.  The 1000 had almost none (especially with the 
software? filter that was available).  




If you want a good filter for 160m check this one out. I put one of these BCB 
filters on my 5000A and it made a big difference. 

Scroll to the last filter on the page. it was $42.00 well spent. 



Zack 

N8FNR 



http://www.iceradioproducts.com/filtersrf.html 

BCB Interference Filters 

AM broadcast stations transmitting in the frequency range from 550kHz to 
1700kHz cause havoc with HF and VHF receiving operations, often inducing 
carriers, modulation, broadband noise and other disturbances into delicate 
equipment. 

Such interference can frequently be heard mixing with other received signals in 
the shortwave bands and commonly overwhelms front ends of modern receivers. 

Broadcast reject filters reduce AM band signals to levels where local Stations 
can still be received in most cases, but are no longer threatening to other 
desired services. A must for serious low frequency DXers or Amateur 160 Meter 
enthusiasts. Five models are available for both receive-only applications or 
for use with transceivers (allows transmission of up to 300 watts through the 
filter above the rated cutoff frequency). 

Model 401 is for reception only and is designed to notch out the BCB band from 
550kHz or 1700kHz, allowing reception of signals below 500 kc and above 1.8 MHz 
Model 400 units are designed to operate above 3.5MHz These two models are for 
reception only (400) or transceiving (400X) and, both units place the BCB band 
frequencies and below well into the stopband, inserting very high attenuation 
even at the higher end of the BCB band frequency segment. 



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Re: [Flexradio] 6 meters receive on 5000

2009-06-27 Thread Ross Stenberg

The other edge of the sword could say that it's a  bit laughable that Flex
did not incorporate a few dollars (at best) worth of parts for a separate 6
meter preamp on a flagship transceiver. I seriously doubt that you would be
using that particular preamp unless of course you wanted to receive
airborne TV signals by turning your home electrical wiring into a giant
antenna. Nothing personal, I just fell one ludicrous comment sometimes
deserves another. I understand why they used the front end that they did for
HF (dynamic range) however most others have a stage of added gain for 6
meters at the expense of dynamic range. It is really just a marketing game
for best narrow spaced 3rd order dynamic range bragging rights.

73 K9COX

PS: Pete, I love your Entrepreneurial sprit!


In addition you will soon be able to do steerable dual diversity with 2
receivers.  Quite useful for hearing under the noise

I also think is a bit laughable there is kvetching over adding a 10$ CATV
amp to the amp loop.

http://www.allelectronics.com/index.php?page=searchsearch_query=catvx=0y=0

73  W9OY



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Re: [Flexradio] Why An Extra Pre Amp On Six Meters

2009-06-27 Thread Dan Eisenman

Hi Clay;
Thanks for the tests , I went to the daily bundle on the emails and  
was trying to figure out how to answer you.
Just as a point to some that have commented on the 5000A not having a  
preamp for six meters , this is still an excellent rig on that band

and I'm making contacts every day with out issues.
Again Clay appreciate your time and effort !
73
Dan
K8ICB in Florida


On Jun 24, 2009, at 10:21 PM, Clay W7CE wrote:

I'm sorry for the delay in responding.  I'm traveling on business  
and haven't had much time for email.


I measured the receiver MDS (500 Hz bandwidth) without the external  
preamp at -126 dBm and with the preamp at -145 dBm.  In both cases,  
the internal preamp was also on.  I used a calibrated HP signal  
source, but only measured the signal strengths in dBm not microvolts.


I don't have time to do the measurement conversions.  However, for  
comparison, QST review of the 5000A measured the 500 Hz MDS at -128  
dBm which is 2 dB better than my measurement, but still corresponds  
to a 19 dB noise figure.  Their measured 10 db (S+N)/N, 1 kHz, 30%  
modulation sensitivity was 3.7 uV, and for 12 dB SINAD it was 1.4 uV.


73,
Clay  W7CE

- Original Message - From: Dan Eisenman k8...@allprophoto.net 


To: Clay W7CE w...@curtiss.net
Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 7:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Why An Extra Pre Amp On Six Meters



Hi Clay;
Thanks for your observations , have you actually put a signal   
generator on it ?
Just wondering what the microvolt sensitivity level is , then  
compared  to having the preamp on  ?

73
Dan
K8ICB in Florida

On Jun 21, 2009, at 2:17 AM, Clay W7CE wrote:

Without a preamp, you haven't been hearing the weak ones.   
Assuming  that your local noise level isn't incredibly high, the  
stations that  sound weak without a preamp, won't sound weak with  
it.  The stations  that sound weak with the preamp on, are non- 
existant without it.   I've measured the 6M noise figure and it is  
about 21 dB without the  preamp and 2 dB with it.  My preamp has  
26 dB of gain, which is more  than I really need.  I've added an  
HP 0-12 dB step attenuator after  the preamp to reduce the gain  
when desired.  I typically see my  noise floor drop 8-9 dB when I  
turn on the preamp (more when local  QRN is minimum).  I'm still  
experimenting with the best attenuator  setting, but I'd say you  
want at least 16-20 dB of gain.


I own five 6 Meter rigs, and the 5000A is the best by far since I   
added the preamp.


73,
Clay  W7CE


- Original Message - From: Dan Eisenman k8...@allprophoto.net

To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 10:52 PM
Subject: [Flexradio] Why An Extra Pre Amp On Six Meters


I have been using my 5000A on six meters , seems to work great  
as  is , I have been
reading about the 3000 not needing a Pre Amp but adding one on  
the 5000A.
Just curious if any real lab test were run to confirm this  
data ?  The 5000A seems fine to me , I don't seem to have any

trouble hearing and working the weak ones .
73
Dan
K8ICB in Florida

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Re: [Flexradio] 6 meters receive on 5000

2009-06-27 Thread Lee A Crocker
Well of course the proper gain distribution for a VHF preamp is on the tower 1 
ft from the antenna, which is why the radio was designed the way it was.  The 
$10 CATV comment is not ludicrous.  There is no reason to include a permanent 
piece of junk (like the crummy preamp you propose) in the signal chain that 
would destroy the proper performance of a properly mounted preamp.  You see 
ICOM got it wrong.

73




From: Ross Stenberg ross.stenb...@charter.net
To: Lee A Crocker lee_croc...@yahoo.com; Flexradio FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 8:00:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] 6 meters receive on 5000

The other edge of the sword could say that it's a  bit laughable that Flex
did not incorporate a few dollars (at best) worth of parts for a separate 6
meter preamp on a flagship transceiver. I seriously doubt that you would be
using that particular preamp unless of course you wanted to receive
airborne TV signals by turning your home electrical wiring into a giant
antenna. Nothing personal, I just fell one ludicrous comment sometimes
deserves another. I understand why they used the front end that they did for
HF (dynamic range) however most others have a stage of added gain for 6
meters at the expense of dynamic range. It is really just a marketing game
for best narrow spaced 3rd order dynamic range bragging rights.

73 K9COX

PS: Pete, I love your Entrepreneurial sprit!

 In addition you will soon be able to do steerable dual diversity with 2
 receivers.  Quite useful for hearing under the noise

 I also think is a bit laughable there is kvetching over adding a 10$ CATV
 amp to the amp loop.

 http://www.allelectronics.com/index.php?page=searchsearch_query=catvx=0y=0

 73  W9OY


  
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[Flexradio] Some notes on SDR 1.8.1 vs 1.8.0

2009-06-27 Thread Mark Lunday
MixW/WSJT CAT PTT works great.

 

Also, noticed that my K-3 Logikey output, using straight key into the Flex
3K, is a lot smoother.  Not sure if it is something I did on my end, but
1.8.0 was malformed enough that I was using keyboard CW only from MixW.

 

Also, overall I agree with Lee, W9OY.  I always thought QSK was the rage,
but I do fine with break-in set at 300 ms for high speed CW.  That's enough
to stop keying and hear if anyone else is there, but not so often that I
hear the machine gun staccato of the relays (this is NOT a complaint about
the F3K, just an observation.  Please don't change anything in the beautiful
blue box!)

 

I don't miss the continuous break in, and a longer threshold is just fine
for me.

 

 

Mark Lunday

WD4ELG

 mailto:wd4...@arrl.net wd4...@arrl.net

 http://wd4elg.net http://wd4elg.net

 

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Re: [Flexradio] Some notes on SDR 1.8.1 vs 1.8.0

2009-06-27 Thread Tim Ellison
One of the fixes in v1.18.1 was a CW improvement related to the initialization 
of the high resolution timer and another one reported with a variable type 
change.


-Tim


-Original Message-
From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz 
[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Mark Lunday
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 10:17 PM
To: 'FlexRadio List'
Subject: [Flexradio] Some notes on SDR 1.8.1 vs 1.8.0

MixW/WSJT CAT PTT works great.

 

Also, noticed that my K-3 Logikey output, using straight key into the Flex
3K, is a lot smoother.  Not sure if it is something I did on my end, but
1.8.0 was malformed enough that I was using keyboard CW only from MixW.

 

Also, overall I agree with Lee, W9OY.  I always thought QSK was the rage,
but I do fine with break-in set at 300 ms for high speed CW.  That's enough
to stop keying and hear if anyone else is there, but not so often that I
hear the machine gun staccato of the relays (this is NOT a complaint about
the F3K, just an observation.  Please don't change anything in the beautiful
blue box!)

 

I don't miss the continuous break in, and a longer threshold is just fine
for me.

 

 

Mark Lunday

WD4ELG

 mailto:wd4...@arrl.net wd4...@arrl.net

 http://wd4elg.net http://wd4elg.net

 

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Re: [Flexradio] Some notes on SDR 1.8.1 vs 1.8.0

2009-06-27 Thread Mark Lunday
Tim, I presume the release notes are somewhere...I don't recognize any of
them in the program files directory...


I was just running a qualitative side by side test of my (now obsolete)
TS-570S and the SDR 1.8.1 on 17M SSB, listening to ZL1BYZ and several
stateside stations calling him.  The QUALITY of the audio coming out of SDR
1.8.1 compared to the TS-570 is like NIGHT AND DAY.  Granted I don't have
any filters in the Kenwood, but still SDR is also set on 2.4 kHz bandwidth
same as stock Kenwood 570.

I am blown away by the fidelity from SDR 1.8.1.  By fiddling with the AF and
AGC-T controls, I have total control and can adjust so that static crashes
and background noise are not even noticeable.  It's almost like I am
listening to an MP3 recording of someone talking, rather than an HF signal
across 8000+ miles.


Mark Lunday
WD4ELG
wd4...@arrl.net
http://wd4elg.net

-Original Message-
From: Tim Ellison [mailto:telli...@itsco.com] 
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 10:34 PM
To: Mark Lunday; 'FlexRadio List'
Subject: RE: [Flexradio] Some notes on SDR 1.8.1 vs 1.8.0

One of the fixes in v1.18.1 was a CW improvement related to the
initialization of the high resolution timer and another one reported with a
variable type change.


-Tim

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[Flexradio] 5000A es writelog

2009-06-27 Thread STORMYX
Just wanted to say, it sure is a pleasure to be using my new F5K with
writelog in the CW FDSWEET!

73,

Leon N5PU 

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[Flexradio] VAC Config

2009-06-27 Thread Jason Greene
Greetings. I am trying to get VAC working. I have audio to the laptop, but 
nothing from the puter to the radio including ptt (and vox).
I was hoping to get some digital action this weekend, so any help is 
appreciated.


Thanks


Jason  
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[Flexradio] Locking vfo's and declexia or however it is spelled

2009-06-27 Thread MILLER, Tom
In playing fd this weekend using two antennas I found it would be nice at times 
to lock step the two vfo's.  With signals and interference comming from all 
directions having the ability to do that and swap audio from left to right and 
back or straight mono into both head phones.
As far as the delex, could not figure why no e recv wass deaf went so far as to 
open up the box (I put on the medusa goggles to protect from the kmart special 
light) so I would not go blind (no blonde jokes please) only to find I had the 
box turned wrong putting the ant 3 conn where I thought the no 1 ant connector 
should be.  Now that I feel like a moron. Doh!
Tom Homer Simpson ac5tm
Tom Miller 504 715-7185
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[Flexradio] RF disappearing on 20 meters during FD

2009-06-27 Thread Geep Howell
I have the Flex 5000 at our FD site this weekend as the main phone  
station.  One of the other guys who was operating it (and loving it as  
well...) called me over to see what he was doing wrong.  The radio was  
exhibiting dead band syndrome after a few minutes of idle time.   
Signals simply disappeared.  Pressing the PTT and releasing brought  
the receiver back to life.  I thought it might be an AGC issue, but  
finally, after rebooting PowerSDR (18.1) and the radio without the  
problem going away, I reloaded the database and I think that cured it.


Anyone see something similar happen and if so, what was the fix?

Aside from RF getting into the mike circuit due to a balanced feedline  
causing problems, the system is working well and many have operated it  
with good comments.  Generally working whatever I can hear.


thanks

geep
wa4rts

operating K4CQ in VA



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