Re: [Flexradio] SO2R is on the air with the F5K
Very impressive Lee; great job!! Dennis Petrich Amateur Radio Station K0EOO Lakeville Minnesota USA k0...@arrl.net 952-898-1082 - Original Message - From: Lee A Crocker lee_croc...@yahoo.com To: Flexradio FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 8:57:15 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: [Flexradio] SO2R is on the air with the F5K http://w9oy-sdr.blogspot.com/2010/01/flex-radio-so2r-is-on-air.html Check out my blog entry regarding our work to date! 73 W9OY ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to radio...@frontiernet.net ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Flexradio] VAC set-up
While it is always a pleasure telling Hams about the benefits of the 5K and 3K it would be great to tell them that there is a single step-by- step write up on the Flex site on how to set up Com0com, VAC. CAT and MixW (or similar)that is up- to date .. perhaps I am missing it ..( I acknowledge there are write ups that deal with the subjects separately but I cannot find a single write up) VE3FRH ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Flexradio] SO2R is on the air with the F5K
Hi Lee, Very interesting post thanks! I seem to have a problem with trying to change between Tx'ing on VFO A and VFO B. When N1MM send the FT1 CAT command to set the VFO B to Tx this seems to switch on the SPLIT function in Power SDR (I'm using 1.18.3). This has the bizarre affect of setting the TX frequency not to that of RX2 but to the last used frequency of the VFO B used by the MultRX , even though MultRX is not switched on!! The manual seems to suggest that this is the expected mode of operation of the SPLIT function, how did you get round this? 73 Pete, G4CLA. 2010/1/13 Lee A Crocker lee_croc...@yahoo.com: http://w9oy-sdr.blogspot.com/2010/01/flex-radio-so2r-is-on-air.html Check out my blog entry regarding our work to date! 73 W9OY ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to p...@plcg.org ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Flexradio] Preamp vs AGC-T?
Hi Brian, That's a very good explanation - thanks! Best regards, Michael Jones W0STB SCSI Toolbox LLC www.scsitoolbox.com 303-972-2072 -Original Message- From: br...@lloyd.com [mailto:br...@lloyd.com] On Behalf Of Brian Lloyd Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 4:26 PM To: mi...@scsitoolbox.com Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Preamp vs AGC-T? On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Michael Jones mi...@scsitoolbox.com wrote: Hello All, I'm wondering what is the relationship between the AGC-T setting and the pre amp setting? They are different, way different. You use them for completely different things. Probably the first thing to do is to read the article that was written on the topic of AGC Threshold (AGC-T) and placed in the knowledge base at: http://kc.flex-radio.com/KnowledgebaseArticle50153.aspx That covers how best to use the AGC-T control. For instance, is changing the preamp from off to Pre1 doing the same thing as raising the AGC-T setting some set amount? No. What is the recommendation for improving copy of a weak signal? Is it to turn up the Pre amp setting, or too turn up AGC-T? It depends on the level of atmospheric noise being received. From input from the list here I have gotten very wary of ever turning up the AGC-T setting past 70 or 75 - maybe that's just an unfounded fear - LOL! Definitely. I am trying to think of when I ever set AGC-T below about 80 but then, I don't seem to use it the same way as others since I want the noise to be audible. Think of the AGC Threshold (AGC-T) control more of an RF gain control. You can use it to turn down the sensitivity of the receiver. The preamp is able to actually increase the sensitivity of the receiver. You need to understand two key things: 1. the relationship between the internal noise of the receiver and the external noise being picked up by the antenna; 2. the job of AGC to reduce the gain of the receiver so that very strong signals appear to be about the same level as a weak signal. What is not always obvious is the relationship between the two and that is probably why you are asking this question. Perhaps the first thing to do to understand all this is to understand the relationship between the receiver's internal noise (noise figure) and noise picked up by the antenna. This is easy to do if you try a simple experiment. Connect your receiver to a dummy load, turn off the preamp, and adjust the panadaptor to show -145dBm on the bottom. Select 20m USB and set the filter to 2.7kHz. At this point the S-meter should be showing about -110 dBm. That represents that equivalent noise power of the receiver. Basically, until a signal reaches that power level you aren't going to hear it. Now turn on the preamp. Notice that the noise power level drops to about -123 dBm. This is the new noise floor. The preamp's noise now dominates the system noise as opposed to the noise in the rest of the receiver chain. This means that the receiver can now hear a 2.7 kHz wide signal that is at -123 dBm, about a 13dB improvement over the receiver without the preamp. Notice also that we haven't even touched the AGC-threshold control. One more thing before we go on, try changing the filter width. You will notice that when you double the filter bandwidth the S-meter shows a 3dB increase in noise. That is because twice the bandwidth admits twice the noise power (given equal noise power per Hz). You may also notice that the noise level reported by the panadaptor is much less than the noise reported by the S-meter. That is because the panadaptor use a series of very narrow filters (FFT bins) to make up the measurement. If you set the filter width to the same as the FFT bin width then both the panadaptor and the S-meter would show the same noise power. Turn the preamp back off. Switch from the dummy load to the antenna. You may notice that the noise level does not increase very much. (You can look at the panadaptor if you like.) If it doesn't increase at all that means that the noise generated by the receiver is greater than the noise and signal being picked up by the antenna. It also means that you might not hear a signal right at the noise level. Now repeat the same test with the preamp on. Notice that there is a noticeable increase in noise floor when you connect and disconnect the antenna. Now you know that the system noise is being dominated by received noise. Your receiver will now hear any signal that is hearable. On my Flex 5000 with the noise at my location on 20m, the noise level typically rises about 3dB when I connect the antenna with the preamp turned off. That means that the noise contributed by the antenna is about equal to the noise in the receiver. I would probably get a little improvement from the preamp (but not much). Once I get to 15m and above, the preamp is needed in order to hear the minimum discernible signal. I've notice that changing the preamp setting does not change the levels I
Re: [Flexradio] VAC set-up
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 7:13 AM, Robin Haighton ve3...@cogeco.ca wrote: While it is always a pleasure telling Hams about the benefits of the 5K and 3K it would be great to tell them that there is a single step-by- step write up on the Flex site on how to set up Com0com, VAC. CAT and MixW (or similar)that is up- to date .. perhaps I am missing it ..( I acknowledge there are write ups that deal with the subjects separately but I cannot find a single write up) I just wrote one and posted it here a week or so ago but it was for fldigi. -- 73 de Brian, WB6RQN/J79BPL ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Flexradio] Edirol FA-66 Driver for Win7
Good News for SDR-1000 users, Edirol FA-66 driver for Windows 7 32bit 64bit now available for download on Roland Website: http://www.roland.com/products/en/_support/dld.cfm?ln=endsp=0iCncd=688 73 de Anton - YB5QZ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Flexradio] SO2R is on the air with the F5K
Lee's writeup and photos are a work-of-art! This documentation should show some of the power of the Flex and its ability to adequately do SO2R! Thanks Lee, keep up the excellent work. 73, Rich, K3VAT -- Message: 6 Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:57:15 -0800 (PST) From: Lee A Crocker lee_croc...@yahoo.com Subject: [Flexradio] SO2R is on the air with the F5K To: Flexradio FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz Message-ID: 583100.49175...@web57001.mail.re3.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii http://w9oy-sdr.blogspot.com/2010/01/flex-radio-so2r-is-on-air.html Check out my blog entry regarding our work to date! 73 W9OY ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Flexradio] SDR 1000 for sale
SDR 1000 100w unit. Internal ATU. M-Audio Delta 44 audio with breakout box. Also small circuit board that replaces the breakout box. Asking $700 +sh Scott Blixt KA0JWC Montgomery, MN sbl...@means.net ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Flexradio] AGC-T vs PreAmp
Thanks to everyone who responded to my question. I did the experiments with the dummy load, etc - that was really interesting and fun. It totally made the whole thing clear in my mind - I guess I learn best by seeing things. The community here sure is great - what a great bunch of helpful folks! Many thanks again. Oh, now that I'm thinking about how well my questions get answered - I'll post a second one with a new title to keep things clean. Best regards, Michael Jones W0STB SCSI Toolbox LLC www.scsitoolbox.com http://www.scsitoolbox.com/ 303-972-2072 ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Flexradio] SR button
I know the SR button stands for Spur Reduction, but I'm not certain what that means in practical terms. Is a spur like an image signal? What got me thinking about this is the fact that CW Skimmer wants this to be turned off. I can see that Skimmer sees things differently with it on or off, but I don't know why that is. Also - is this something that has to do with receive only? What's really on my mind is - when I stop using Skimmer is it very important that I turn SR back on? Flex 3K, 1.19.3 svn 3495, Win7-64 Best regards, Michael Jones W0STB SCSI Toolbox LLC www.scsitoolbox.com http://www.scsitoolbox.com/ 303-972-2072 ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Flexradio] Audio Interface
Thank you all for your insight and comments Joe N7QPP On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Jesse N4BFD n4b...@gmail.com wrote: I'd check out some of the Behringer audio mixers, they are perfect for what you are looking to do and made for the job.. I use a rack mounted one in my shack for the same thing, works great! N4BFD Jesse http://www.qrz.com/db/N4BFD On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 9:36 AM, Joe Camilli joen7...@gmail.com wrote: I am posting this here because many Flexers have experience with external sound interfaces – due to the early Flex radio. So here is a description of my current sources of audio: Flex-3000 – HF radio Icom 2200H – 2M radio Yeasu FT-60 – 2/440 radio RS Pro 97 – scanner Computer All except the computer are mono audio sources. The goal is to make the computer an audio hub thus allowing me the ability to control the volume of each audio source through one set of speakers attached to the computer. I was looking at the Delta 44 or the Delta 1010LT interface. I would like to get some feedback on this approach, would it have an impact on the Flex-3000 since this computer also runs PSDR. ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to n4b...@gmail.com ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Flexradio] FlexRadio Digest, Vol 57, Issue 13
Flex-5000a with optional auto tuner in new condition only 8 months old ,with box,manual,cd,firewire cable and heil goldline microphone with cable. $2500.00 847-877-5501 gene ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Flexradio] SR button
Spur Reduction: Adds the use of a software oscillator to avoid DDS frequencies known to have a higher phase truncation related spurious response. In short, rather than tuning each frequency using the DDS (this is what happens when this option is turned off), the software tunes the DDS in 3kHz steps and does fine-tuning in software. Tuning in 3kHz steps also has the advantage of having to send fewer command signals to the hardware. -From the manual, page 84 CW Skimmer is not intelligent enough to dodge the spurs and won't follow the Flex-3000's algorithm. Michael Jones wrote: I know the SR button stands for Spur Reduction, but I'm not certain what that means in practical terms. Is a spur like an image signal? What got me thinking about this is the fact that CW Skimmer wants this to be turned off. I can see that Skimmer sees things differently with it on or off, but I don't know why that is. Also - is this something that has to do with receive only? What's really on my mind is - when I stop using Skimmer is it very important that I turn SR back on? Flex 3K, 1.19.3 svn 3495, Win7-64 Best regards, Michael Jones W0STB ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Flexradio] SR button
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Michael Jones mi...@scsitoolbox.com wrote: I know the SR button stands for Spur Reduction, but I'm not certain what that means in practical terms. Is a spur like an image signal? Not really. The local oscillator (VFO) is a DDS oscillator that is programmed to generate a certain frequency. Normally the Flex uses an IF frequency of 9kHz. So if you want to receive a signal at 14,009 kHz normally the VFO would generate 14,000 kHz. 14,000 kHz when mixed with 14,009 kHz produces the IF at 9kHz. But sometimes a programmed value in the DDS VFO produces an internal divisor that results in not only the desired output but one or more additional low-level spurious outputs (spurs). Flex has identified which values do this and change the behavior of the radio slightly. If the DDS VFO were to produce spurs at a VFO frequency of 14,000kHz but not at 13,999 kHz then PowerSDR commands the radio to use 13,999kHz for the VFO frequency but then changes the IF to 10kHz. Now 14,009kHz - 13,999 kHz = 10kHz. So, in short, PowerSDR changes both the VFO frequency and the IF frequency behind the scenes so that the spurs do not show up. Pretty clever those Flexians. What got me thinking about this is the fact that CW Skimmer wants this to be turned off. I can see that Skimmer sees things differently with it on or off, but I don't know why that is. It is because of the magic hand-waving above. CW Skimmer always uses the same IF so the DDS VFO *must* produce the expected frequency or the frequency calculated in CW Skimmer would be incorrect. Also - is this something that has to do with receive only? No, this is done for transmit as well. What's really on my mind is - when I stop using Skimmer is it very important that I turn SR back on? Yes. It not only avoids spurs but it makes tuning much faster because PowerSDR doesn't need to change the frequency of the VFO for every 1Hz of frequency change. -- 73 de Brian, WB6RQN/J79BPL ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Flexradio] SR button
Hi Brian, Great info - thanks! That is so amazing to think that the radio can know when it has a problem like that and adapt to it - wow. Man, these guys at Flex are awesomely smart! Best regards, Michael Jones SCSI Toolbox LLC www.scsitoolbox.com 303-972-2072 -Original Message- From: br...@lloyd.com [mailto:br...@lloyd.com] On Behalf Of Brian Lloyd Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 12:43 PM To: mi...@scsitoolbox.com Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] SR button On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Michael Jones mi...@scsitoolbox.com wrote: I know the SR button stands for Spur Reduction, but I'm not certain what that means in practical terms. Is a spur like an image signal? Not really. The local oscillator (VFO) is a DDS oscillator that is programmed to generate a certain frequency. Normally the Flex uses an IF frequency of 9kHz. So if you want to receive a signal at 14,009 kHz normally the VFO would generate 14,000 kHz. 14,000 kHz when mixed with 14,009 kHz produces the IF at 9kHz. But sometimes a programmed value in the DDS VFO produces an internal divisor that results in not only the desired output but one or more additional low-level spurious outputs (spurs). Flex has identified which values do this and change the behavior of the radio slightly. If the DDS VFO were to produce spurs at a VFO frequency of 14,000kHz but not at 13,999 kHz then PowerSDR commands the radio to use 13,999kHz for the VFO frequency but then changes the IF to 10kHz. Now 14,009kHz - 13,999 kHz = 10kHz. So, in short, PowerSDR changes both the VFO frequency and the IF frequency behind the scenes so that the spurs do not show up. Pretty clever those Flexians. What got me thinking about this is the fact that CW Skimmer wants this to be turned off. I can see that Skimmer sees things differently with it on or off, but I don't know why that is. It is because of the magic hand-waving above. CW Skimmer always uses the same IF so the DDS VFO *must* produce the expected frequency or the frequency calculated in CW Skimmer would be incorrect. Also - is this something that has to do with receive only? No, this is done for transmit as well. What's really on my mind is - when I stop using Skimmer is it very important that I turn SR back on? Yes. It not only avoids spurs but it makes tuning much faster because PowerSDR doesn't need to change the frequency of the VFO for every 1Hz of frequency change. -- 73 de Brian, WB6RQN/J79BPL ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Flexradio] SR button
On other thing then - since this is critical for good transmitter performance - am I running the risk of transmitting spurs when I have Skimmer turned on and SR turned off? Is there a solution to that if it is a problem? Best regards, Michael Jones SCSI Toolbox LLC www.scsitoolbox.com 303-972-2072 ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Flexradio] SR button
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Michael Jones mi...@scsitoolbox.com wrote: On other thing then - since this is critical for good transmitter performance - am I running the risk of transmitting spurs when I have Skimmer turned on and SR turned off? Is there a solution to that if it is a problem? That is something that they guys from Flex are going to have to answer. -- 73 de Brian, WB6RQN/J79BPL ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Flexradio] SR button
There shouldn't be any DDS spurs in the CW portion of all the ham bands. This was a very significant problem with the SDR-1000 and essentially fixed with the FLEX-5000/3000. In the past 5 years, I have never heard of anyone having issues on TX due to a DDS spur; even with the SDR-1000 where some bands looked like grass growing in a pasture. -Tim -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Brian Lloyd Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 5:38 PM To: mi...@scsitoolbox.com Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] SR button On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Michael Jones mi...@scsitoolbox.com wrote: On other thing then - since this is critical for good transmitter performance - am I running the risk of transmitting spurs when I have Skimmer turned on and SR turned off? Is there a solution to that if it is a problem? That is something that they guys from Flex are going to have to answer. -- 73 de Brian, WB6RQN/J79BPL ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to telli...@itsco.com ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com