Re: [Flexradio] Flex Logging Software

[Thomas Bewick]

Well thanks guys. Lots more options to choose from all the time. Makes it
all fun though. I have the advantage of just starting to get set up with my
new flex and not keeping logs before this, so I can literally "try before I
buy". I am going to download the trial and free versions of the ones people
have shared and give them each a try over the next month and reserve
judgement on them until I have seen what will meet my needs. I do, as I
said, have FLDIGI and DDutil working and as Brian said that is half the
battle and a good place to start. I also wanted to add thanks to Jim for
sending me a screenshot of Logger32, I realized that Logger32 is probably
working correctly on my 64bit computer but since I did not have any data
and contacts entered it was not displaying in the full layout so it looked
strange. I am going to give that a try again too, along with N3FJP's AcLog,
Commcat, hrd,  and the many others suggested. And of course I am already
using Win-EQF since earlier today. Lots of homework. I am off to work
tonight after having a nice day off last night to play radio last night and
today which is why I was able to look at these and respond so much to the
list.
Thanks again everyone, 73, Tom N2BEW


On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Michael Ruttenberg
wrote:

> There is a section in the book Computers in Amateur Radio by Steve White
> G3ZVW that talks about this very subject. I admit to having written the
> section in this book (I don't earn commission on sales).
>
> The short answer is no one logger does everything.
>
> My own opinion is that as a general logger don't rule out contest loggers
> like N1MM which has a very good DX and VHFDX module for general logging. It
> does not keep track of awards or interface directly with LoTW, where some
> other software packages do.
>
> It's horses for courses.
>
> Mike
> G7TWC
>
> On 4 Dec 2012, at 18:55, W6SDM Steve  wrote:
>
> > I see that you have got a lot of good information from the community on
> > logging programs, CAT, and DDUtil.  The ability to interface various
> > software and hardware directly with your Flex is one of the things that
> > makes it a lot of fun
> >
> > I am going to add my choices to the mix.  As a contester and a DXer, my
> > logging is very important to me.  It’s what gets me confirmation for
> awards
> > credit and contact info to score contests.  I found than no one log would
> > do everything that I want the way I need it to, so I use two.
> >
> > N1MM is one of the most widely used contest logging programs out there.
>  It’s
> > set up specifically to log the major contests, track some of the scores
> in
> > real time, and produce files in the standard Cabrillo format for log
> > submission.  N1MM does one more thing, which is to export files in ADIF
> > format, allowing for import into another logging program.  N1MM is a free
> > program.
> >
> > CommCat is my “general” log.  I log contests in real time from my Flex
> 5000
> > via CAT data.  CommCat isn’t free, but it’s inexpensive.  What I really
> > like about it is that, like DDUtil, it’s a Swiss Army knife of other
> > utilities.  For example, there’s a DX cluster monitor that can actually
> > tune the Flex to the exact DX frequency and even tune VFO B to the QSX
> > frequency if the DX is operating split.  There is a band map that shows
> > who’s operating where.  CommCat works with DX Atlas to plot the location
> on
> > a map.  There are a ton of other features and gadgets to explore.
> >
> > CommCat also works directly with LotW and can log your contacts
> seamlessly.
> > Many other logging programs do this as well.
> >
> > There is are a lot of software gadgets out there.  Loggers.  Skimmers.
>  Cluster
> > and spotter software.  In order to pass data to and from the radio, they
> > all depend on CAT and VAC communications.  The best thing a new Flexer
> can
> > do is study these features and DDUtil to understand how they work.
> >
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > W6SDM.net
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[Flexradio] European Repeaters

[Liaaen Nils J.]

Flex 5000A:
How can I open repeaters requiring a 1750 Hz tone ?

BTW:
How can I update my US purchased F5K to Region 1
Bandplan?

73 de LA6GH
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[Flexradio] Logger32 and flex5k

[Pete Parisetti]

Got Logger32 working fine with my 5000. Only, when I click dx spots the radio 
tunes to the right frequency, but not the right mode (I am a cw man). I cannot 
find where to tweak to fix this. Thanks for any help.

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Re: [Flexradio] Flex Logging Software

[Michael Ruttenberg]

There is a section in the book Computers in Amateur Radio by Steve White G3ZVW 
that talks about this very subject. I admit to having written the section in 
this book (I don't earn commission on sales).

The short answer is no one logger does everything.

My own opinion is that as a general logger don't rule out contest loggers like 
N1MM which has a very good DX and VHFDX module for general logging. It does not 
keep track of awards or interface directly with LoTW, where some other software 
packages do. 

It's horses for courses.

Mike
G7TWC

On 4 Dec 2012, at 18:55, W6SDM Steve  wrote:

> I see that you have got a lot of good information from the community on
> logging programs, CAT, and DDUtil.  The ability to interface various
> software and hardware directly with your Flex is one of the things that
> makes it a lot of fun
> 
> I am going to add my choices to the mix.  As a contester and a DXer, my
> logging is very important to me.  It’s what gets me confirmation for awards
> credit and contact info to score contests.  I found than no one log would
> do everything that I want the way I need it to, so I use two.
> 
> N1MM is one of the most widely used contest logging programs out there.  It’s
> set up specifically to log the major contests, track some of the scores in
> real time, and produce files in the standard Cabrillo format for log
> submission.  N1MM does one more thing, which is to export files in ADIF
> format, allowing for import into another logging program.  N1MM is a free
> program.
> 
> CommCat is my “general” log.  I log contests in real time from my Flex 5000
> via CAT data.  CommCat isn’t free, but it’s inexpensive.  What I really
> like about it is that, like DDUtil, it’s a Swiss Army knife of other
> utilities.  For example, there’s a DX cluster monitor that can actually
> tune the Flex to the exact DX frequency and even tune VFO B to the QSX
> frequency if the DX is operating split.  There is a band map that shows
> who’s operating where.  CommCat works with DX Atlas to plot the location on
> a map.  There are a ton of other features and gadgets to explore.
> 
> CommCat also works directly with LotW and can log your contacts seamlessly.
> Many other logging programs do this as well.
> 
> There is are a lot of software gadgets out there.  Loggers.  Skimmers.  
> Cluster
> and spotter software.  In order to pass data to and from the radio, they
> all depend on CAT and VAC communications.  The best thing a new Flexer can
> do is study these features and DDUtil to understand how they work.
> 
> 
> Steve
> 
> W6SDM.net
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Re: [Flexradio] Flex Logging Software

[Brian Lloyd]

The simplest approach to getting logging going is to install and use
fldigi. It may not be the best way but installing fldigi and setting it up
to make it work with PowerSDR gets you 99% of the way there. You get the
digital modes and you get a decent logging program. It may not have all the
features of the other programs but it has the features that most people
need. It is, IMHO, the best place to start and gain experience. Once you
have that working for awhile you can then determine what additional
features you need, if any, and then go looking for them.

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Re: [Flexradio] SDR1000

[Hulen Smith]

Thank you both for your responses

Hulen

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 3, 2012, at 4:28 PM, Bill Guyger  wrote:

> It was indeed 1 W. I have one for a VFO for a 813 based transmitter out of 
> the '55 handbook.
>  
> Bill AD5OL
> 
> From: Neal Campbell 
> To: Hulen Smith  
> Cc: "flexradio@flex-radio.biz"  
> Sent: Monday, December 3, 2012 3:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] SDR1000
> 
> On 12/3/2012 4:05 PM, Hulen Smith wrote:
> > Does anyone know what the original 3-board SDR transmit power output was?
> >
> > k5hcs
> > Hulen
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Re: [Flexradio] Flex Logging software

[Ronald G. Parsons]

My situation is a little different. To achieve full duplex satellite 
operation, I run two instances of PowerSDR to two FLEX radios. I also use 
LoTW. Is there a logging that will read the modes and frequencies of both 
FLEXs and also upload to LoTW?


Ron W5RKN

-Original Message- 
From: Thomas Bewick

Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 3:55 AM
To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: [Flexradio] Flex Logging software

I know this is  a loaded question because there is probably as many answers
as HAM's but, I just got a flex 1500 (love it) and I am looking for a good
basic logging program that will pick up the time and frequency for a qso
from the flex. I don't contest and am looking for something easy to use
for rag chewing, a little DXing, and every day use that would be good to
use long term and will upload to LoTW and eQSL.

I guess the real question I have, as I think about it, is how do you get
logging software to pick up the frequency and time while using a flex with
PowerSDR?

Thanks, Tom N2BEW
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Re: [Flexradio] Flex Logging software

[Ray, K9DUR]

Tom,

Only one program can have a serial port open at a time.  This is where
DDUtil by Steve, K5FR, comes in.  You tell DDUtil to talk to PowerSDR.  Then
you set up additional serial port pairs for each program you need to have
access the PowerSDR CAT information.  DDUtil then acts like a "traffic cop",
routing the PowerSDR CAT commands/data among all of the programs that need
it.

For example:

Set up the following virtual Serial port pairs:
COM7<-->COM17 
COM8<-->COM18 
COM9<-->COM19

Set the PowerSDR CAT port to COM17
Set the DDUTil "Radio CAT" port to COM7

Set the Win-EQF CAT port to COM18
Set the DDUtil "RP1" port to COM8

Set the FLDigi CAT port to COM9
Set the DDUtil "RCP2" port to COM19

Both Win-EQF & FLDigi can now talk to PowerSDR at the same time & everyone
is happy.

NOTE:  The COM port numbers used above are only examples.  You can use any
numbers for the serial port pairs that you wish.

73, Ray, K9DUR
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Re: [Flexradio] Flex Logging software

[Thomas Bewick]

New problem.

I set up COM7 and COM17 and got Win-EQF working.
So then I set up FLDIGI following the directions on their wiki and got
Fldigi working with the same COM port pair COM7 and COM17
But, then when I start Win-EQF it says it cannot open COM7, because it is
in use by FLDIGI of course.
So, I tried to make a new port pair to use for each program, but PowerSDR
only has one port to use for CAT. In my case 17.
So how do you get more then one program to work off the one port in
PowerSDR at the same time, in may case FLDIGI and Win-EQF?
Is that what DDUtil does?

Thanks!
Tom, N2BEW


On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 6:36 AM, Thomas Bewick  wrote:

> I don't know where I have been, I have not heard of this one and it has
> been around a long time, but it looks like a great program that is easy to
> use.
> I am going to try it free and check it out.
> It might take a little getting used to not having a regular GUI, but it
> looks like it will do what I want.
> Thanks again.
> Tom, N2BEW
>
>  >Try Win-EQF http://www.bitwrap.no/web/index.php?id=eqf
>
> I've used it ever since it was a DOS program and it works well.  If you
> want
> contesting software, go with N1MM, but for a good all-around logging
> program, I highly recommend Win-EQF.
>
> de Rick, KN3C
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 6:21 AM, Thomas Bewick  wrote:
>
>> Thanks for all the suggestions.
>> I just installed VSP manager to get FLDIGI to work with VAC so I am all
>> set there.
>> Thanks Mike for the explanation that I will also need this for logging, I
>> was wondering if I did, but was not sure.
>> Well I am looking at DxKeeper, and AC log. HRD does way more then what I
>> want it for.
>> I have used HRD before with my Yaesu ft-450. If they had just the log
>> book as a stand alone program I would consider it but don't want the whole
>> suite just for that.
>> AC log looks really easy to use and that is what I was leaning towards,
>> but I will check out DXKeeper too since it is free.
>> 73,
>> Tom N2BEW
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 5:55 AM, Ray, K9DUR  wrote:
>>
>>> Tom,
>>>
>>> A couple of others have answered with suggestions of different logging
>>> software packages. There are many different logging programs out there, &
>>> each has its own pros & cons.  Which one to use is mainly a matter of
>>> personal preference.  Personally, I also use DXLabs/DXKeeper.
>>>
>>> However, they did not address your real question:
>>>
>>> "I guess the real question I have, as I think about it, is how do you get
>>> logging software to pick up the frequency and time while using a flex
>>> with
>>> PowerSDR?"
>>>
>>> Whatever logging program you use, it will pick up the time from the PC
>>> clock.  As for frequency & mode, any program that supports CAT will be
>>> designed to talk to the radio via a serial port.  You need to use a 3rd
>>> party virtual serial port program such as VSPmgr (available from Steve,
>>> K5FR).  You use this program to create a pair of virtual serial ports,
>>> for
>>> instance COM7 & COM17.  Set your logging software to use COM7 & set
>>> PowerSDR
>>> to use COM17 and you are all set.
>>>
>>> You
>>>
>>> 73, Ray, K9DUR
>>> http://k9dur.info
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
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Re: [Flexradio] Flex Logging software

[Michael Walker]

For most Flex users, the following are key pieces of software:


   - VSPManager (or ComOCom - but VSP Manager seems better)
   - DDUtil

DDUtil is the key 'octopus' you need to handle just about all your RS232
interfacing to the radio, logging programs, rotators, etc.

Mike va3mw


On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 6:36 AM, Thomas Bewick  wrote:

> I don't know where I have been, I have not heard of this one and it has
> been around a long time, but it looks like a great program that is easy to
> use.
> I am going to try it free and check it out.
> It might take a little getting used to not having a regular GUI, but it
> looks like it will do what I want.
> Thanks again.
> Tom, N2BEW
>
> >Try Win-EQF http://www.bitwrap.no/web/index.php?id=eqf
>
> I've used it ever since it was a DOS program and it works well.  If you
> want
> contesting software, go with N1MM, but for a good all-around logging
> program, I highly recommend Win-EQF.
>
> de Rick, KN3C
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 6:21 AM, Thomas Bewick  wrote:
>
> > Thanks for all the suggestions.
> > I just installed VSP manager to get FLDIGI to work with VAC so I am all
> > set there.
> > Thanks Mike for the explanation that I will also need this for logging, I
> > was wondering if I did, but was not sure.
> > Well I am looking at DxKeeper, and AC log. HRD does way more then what I
> > want it for.
> > I have used HRD before with my Yaesu ft-450. If they had just the log
> book
> > as a stand alone program I would consider it but don't want the whole
> suite
> > just for that.
> > AC log looks really easy to use and that is what I was leaning towards,
> > but I will check out DXKeeper too since it is free.
> > 73,
> > Tom N2BEW
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 5:55 AM, Ray, K9DUR  wrote:
> >
> >> Tom,
> >>
> >> A couple of others have answered with suggestions of different logging
> >> software packages. There are many different logging programs out there,
> &
> >> each has its own pros & cons.  Which one to use is mainly a matter of
> >> personal preference.  Personally, I also use DXLabs/DXKeeper.
> >>
> >> However, they did not address your real question:
> >>
> >> "I guess the real question I have, as I think about it, is how do you
> get
> >> logging software to pick up the frequency and time while using a flex
> with
> >> PowerSDR?"
> >>
> >> Whatever logging program you use, it will pick up the time from the PC
> >> clock.  As for frequency & mode, any program that supports CAT will be
> >> designed to talk to the radio via a serial port.  You need to use a 3rd
> >> party virtual serial port program such as VSPmgr (available from Steve,
> >> K5FR).  You use this program to create a pair of virtual serial ports,
> for
> >> instance COM7 & COM17.  Set your logging software to use COM7 & set
> >> PowerSDR
> >> to use COM17 and you are all set.
> >>
> >> You
> >>
> >> 73, Ray, K9DUR
> >> http://k9dur.info
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: [Flexradio] Flex Logging software

[Thomas Bewick]

OK,
I am using Win-EQF and following Ray, K9DUR's (sorry in another response I
called you Mike) set up and used VSPMgr to set up COM 7 and COM 17,
and then used the set up instructions on the WIn-EQF site for the flexradio
and it immediately picked up my frequency in Win-EQF.
This looks like a great program by the way.
Thanks to all for your help!
73,
Tom
N2BEW


On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 6:36 AM, Thomas Bewick  wrote:

> I don't know where I have been, I have not heard of this one and it has
> been around a long time, but it looks like a great program that is easy to
> use.
> I am going to try it free and check it out.
> It might take a little getting used to not having a regular GUI, but it
> looks like it will do what I want.
> Thanks again.
> Tom, N2BEW
>
>  >Try Win-EQF http://www.bitwrap.no/web/index.php?id=eqf
>
> I've used it ever since it was a DOS program and it works well.  If you
> want
> contesting software, go with N1MM, but for a good all-around logging
> program, I highly recommend Win-EQF.
>
> de Rick, KN3C
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 6:21 AM, Thomas Bewick  wrote:
>
>> Thanks for all the suggestions.
>> I just installed VSP manager to get FLDIGI to work with VAC so I am all
>> set there.
>> Thanks Mike for the explanation that I will also need this for logging, I
>> was wondering if I did, but was not sure.
>> Well I am looking at DxKeeper, and AC log. HRD does way more then what I
>> want it for.
>> I have used HRD before with my Yaesu ft-450. If they had just the log
>> book as a stand alone program I would consider it but don't want the whole
>> suite just for that.
>> AC log looks really easy to use and that is what I was leaning towards,
>> but I will check out DXKeeper too since it is free.
>> 73,
>> Tom N2BEW
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 5:55 AM, Ray, K9DUR  wrote:
>>
>>> Tom,
>>>
>>> A couple of others have answered with suggestions of different logging
>>> software packages. There are many different logging programs out there, &
>>> each has its own pros & cons.  Which one to use is mainly a matter of
>>> personal preference.  Personally, I also use DXLabs/DXKeeper.
>>>
>>> However, they did not address your real question:
>>>
>>> "I guess the real question I have, as I think about it, is how do you get
>>> logging software to pick up the frequency and time while using a flex
>>> with
>>> PowerSDR?"
>>>
>>> Whatever logging program you use, it will pick up the time from the PC
>>> clock.  As for frequency & mode, any program that supports CAT will be
>>> designed to talk to the radio via a serial port.  You need to use a 3rd
>>> party virtual serial port program such as VSPmgr (available from Steve,
>>> K5FR).  You use this program to create a pair of virtual serial ports,
>>> for
>>> instance COM7 & COM17.  Set your logging software to use COM7 & set
>>> PowerSDR
>>> to use COM17 and you are all set.
>>>
>>> You
>>>
>>> 73, Ray, K9DUR
>>> http://k9dur.info
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
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Re: [Flexradio] Flex Logging software

[Ray, K9DUR]

Tom,

A couple of others have answered with suggestions of different logging
software packages. There are many different logging programs out there, &
each has its own pros & cons.  Which one to use is mainly a matter of
personal preference.  Personally, I also use DXLabs/DXKeeper.  

However, they did not address your real question:

"I guess the real question I have, as I think about it, is how do you get
logging software to pick up the frequency and time while using a flex with
PowerSDR?"

Whatever logging program you use, it will pick up the time from the PC
clock.  As for frequency & mode, any program that supports CAT will be
designed to talk to the radio via a serial port.  You need to use a 3rd
party virtual serial port program such as VSPmgr (available from Steve,
K5FR).  You use this program to create a pair of virtual serial ports, for
instance COM7 & COM17.  Set your logging software to use COM7 & set PowerSDR
to use COM17 and you are all set.

You

73, Ray, K9DUR
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Re: [Flexradio] Flex Logging software

[Eric Lowell]

DX4Win is working fine with mine.

On 12/4/2012 4:55 AM, Thomas Bewick wrote:

I know this is  a loaded question because there is probably as many answers
as HAM's but, I just got a flex 1500 (love it) and I am looking for a good
basic logging program that will pick up the time and frequency for a qso
from the flex. I don't contest and am looking for something easy to use
for rag chewing, a little DXing, and every day use that would be good to
use long term and will upload to LoTW and eQSL.

I guess the real question I have, as I think about it, is how do you get
logging software to pick up the frequency and time while using a flex with
PowerSDR?

Thanks, Tom N2BEW
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Re: [Flexradio] Flex Logging software

[Brian]

Thomas Bewick  wrote:

> I know this is  a loaded question because there is probably as many
> answers as HAM's but, I just got a flex 1500 (love it) and I am looking
> for a good basic logging program that will pick up the time and frequency
> for a qso from the flex. I don't contest and am looking for something easy
> to use for rag chewing, a little DXing, and every day use that would be
> good to use long term and will upload to LoTW and eQSL.
> 
> I guess the real question I have, as I think about it, is how do you get
> logging software to pick up the frequency and time while using a flex with
> PowerSDR?

I use DXkeeper, part of DXlabs suite, it was not my first choice, ands it
seemed to need aa steep learning curve, but  the others I tried were lacking
in some way. The sutwewill do /everything/except get the beer from the
fridge (but I think Dave, who maintains it is working on that).

It has very good support from Dave an others, and any questions are almost
instantly answered on the mailing list.

I've been using it for nearly a year with my flex1500 (Mainly digital) and
am very pleased with it. it handles logging easily importing almost
everthing from PSDR and/or the digital program. QSLing via LOTW and EQSL are
only a\couple of mouse clicks away. It has basic contesting facilities (no
scoring) for submitting the occasional contest. 

I highly recommend it.


.

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