Re: [Flexradio] Maestro to monitor
I have had a lot of success in public demonstrations using my iPad Pro running SmartSDR for iOS AND connecting the output of the iPad to a digital projector. ' Easy to see on a huge screen. __ Howard S. White Ph.D. P. Eng., KY6LA Website: www.ky6la.com "No Good Deed Goes Unpunished" "Ham Antennas Saved Lives - Katrina, 2003 & 2007 San Diego Fires, 911 Sent from my iPad Pro On Oct 14, 2016, at 10:19 AM, Mardy Eedsonwrote: Greetings: I am running a Flex 6300 with a Maestro. I use a dedicated Windows 7 laptop for logging. All three units run in isolation from the LAN and are connected with each other through a dedicated ethernet hub. I would like to use this setup in my amateur radio basic class. Is there a way that I could project the panfall display being viewed on the Maestro to a large format monitor or television display so a group of people in the class could see what is going on? Mardy Eedson, VE3QEE ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz To opt out of the Reflector: http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz
Re: [Flexradio] Expert 2K Amp
Great Amp. 2300W key down. Idiot proofed. Fully automatic API IS WEAK but Steve K5FR is currently working on a DDUTIL!interface to fix the API __ Howard S. White Ph.D. P. Eng., VE3GFW/K6 ex-AE6SM KY6LA Website: www.ky6la.com "No Good Deed Goes Unpunished" "Ham Antennas Save Lives - Katrina, 2003 & 2007 San Diego Fires, 911 Sent from my iPad4 On Sep 23, 2015, at 12:49 AM, Bill Hickeywrote: Hi Flexers, I have an Alpha-87a that I use with a Flex-5000A and it is getting long in the tooth. Any opinions on the Expert 2K? Bill AB7AA ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz To opt out of the Reflector: http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz
Re: [Flexradio] 6300 Remoting that really works?
I have been remoting my Flex Radios (5000, 6700) for years via my iPad Now I have a 6700 which I have controlled from 17 different countries so far... The 6700 series is very easy to remote power on and off over the Internet. https://community.flexradio.com/flexradio/topics/succesful_6000_power_on_standby_control_on_the_lan_solution_with_wemo The 6000 series is by far the easiest radio I have ever used for remote operation. __ Howard S. White Ph.D. P. Eng., VE3GFW/K6 ex-AE6SM KY6LA Website: www.ky6la.com No Good Deed Goes Unpunished Ham Antennas Save Lives - Katrina, 2003 2007 San Diego Fires, 911 -Original Message- From: Larry Loen [mailto:lwl...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 1:31 PM To: hmattc...@juno.com Cc: FlexRadio Reflector; David Land Subject: Re: [Flexradio] 6300 Remoting that really works? Thanks, Matthew. The real question here is not that part of it, but power control. I don't want to leave the radios on all the time and (in fact) I want to be able to sequence the power on sequence however I require it to be done, now or in the future. With the Flex 5000, particularly it's On/Off switch, that doesn't seem to be really possible. With the 6000 series, I am learning, it appears to be possible, which is what I am looking for. I have three basic elements to solve; yours is one (I also know of another solution that works well with Elecraft), another is the whole internet thing (I have a MiFi at the shack, with port mapping, so probably have to do VPN, working on a solution there), and then power control. The other elements outside the rig seem comparably under control. I can do A/C power control, antenna switching, and amplifier control with the right products. It's power switching the Flex rigs that have heretofore been the biggest unanswered question. Larry WO7R On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 1:15 PM, hmattc...@juno.com hmattc...@juno.comwrote: Larry, Have you checked into www.remotehams.com I believe any rig can be set up. I have my 3000 and 1500 hooked to remote hams Great service. Matthew-KJ4TN ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz To opt out of the Reflector: http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz
Re: [Flexradio] Radiosport headset for Flex radios
I have the Radiosport Headsets... and also several other brands of headsets including a couple of Heil's which are LOW quality junk I use them on an IC-756 Pro3, a Flex 5000A and a Flex 6700 I definitely prefer the Radiosports over ALL other headsets.. they are very comfortable especially during a long contest or DX session. They cut out the background noise much better than my so called Noise Cancelling Heil junk... Receive audio quality is excellent They are perhaps the best constructed headsets I own I get superb audio reports on my Radiosports... I have tried various different elements...I think currently my favorite is the 205 I do not use the PTT button but only VOX as the isolation is excellent... Another writer is correct to some extent in that the Flex has a 10 Band equalizer which mitigates somewhat the quality of the mike However I definitely get the best reports from the RadioSports... __ Howard S. White Ph.D. P. Eng., VE3GFW/K6 ex-AE6SM KY6LA Website: www.ky6la.com No Good Deed Goes Unpunished Ham Antennas Save Lives - Katrina, 2003 2007 San Diego Fires, 911 -Original Message- From: john molenda [mailto:jmolend...@outlook.com] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 7:57 AM To: John Kramer; FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Radiosport headset for Flex radios I have a radio sport headset from Arlan comm. I dont use the red button it is a ptt . I run vox with my 6700 and elecraft kx3 it works great very comfortable and provides good isolation . The ear pad go over the ears and is very comfortable. lastly call the co. the guy who runs it is very nice and will answer all your questions also 5yr warranty ! and very high quality . John kb2huk On 3/28/2014 8:44 AM, John Kramer wrote: I own the 3 Flex 5000 / 3000 and 1500 radio's, and I am looking to buy a really good headset to use with them. I have been turned off the Heil variants, and want to try something better. I know that the Radiosport headsets are rated very favourably. They are pricy when trying to buy a pair outside the USA, and I don't mind paying for quality, but I also don't want to make a mistake. They look really large and heavyand whats up with the PTT button on the side of the ear cup - I can't see myself poking the earpiece everytime I want to PTT. Yes, I have a foot pedal PTT, but what happens when I go portable...I don't want to lug a PTT foot pedal wherever I go. Do any of you Flexers own a pair of these Radiosport headsets ? and what is the audio like ? both TX and RX ? Comfort ? not too heavy ? How would it rate compared to a cheaper Yamaha or computer headset ? 73 and good weekend John, ZS5J ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Radiosport headset for Flex radios
I don't have a 3000 but I don't see where it should be any different than the 5000 or 6700 that I have. Just a foster connector. __ Howard S. White Ph.D. P. Eng., VE3GFW/K6 ex-AE6SM KY6LA Website: www.ky6la.com No Good Deed Goes Unpunished Ham Antennas Save Lives - Katrina, 2003 2007 San Diego Fires, 911 Sent from my iPhone On Mar 28, 2014, at 6:07 PM, Don Plunkett dp...@telus.net wrote: No matter which headset/mic that one uses ... how does one make the mike on the headset work with a flex 3000? I do not know why, but I just cannot figure it out. Theoretically it should not matter which boom mike you use, it is only quality of the output that is variable ... I would really like some help on this one. Thanks in advance Don VA6FH -Original Message- From: FlexRadio [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Dr. Howard S. White Sent: March-28-14 11:36 AM To: john molenda; John Kramer; FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Radiosport headset for Flex radios I have the Radiosport Headsets... and also several other brands of headsets including a couple of Heil's which are LOW quality junk I use them on an IC-756 Pro3, a Flex 5000A and a Flex 6700 I definitely prefer the Radiosports over ALL other headsets.. they are very comfortable especially during a long contest or DX session. They cut out the background noise much better than my so called Noise Cancelling Heil junk... Receive audio quality is excellent They are perhaps the best constructed headsets I own I get superb audio reports on my Radiosports... I have tried various different elements...I think currently my favorite is the 205 I do not use the PTT button but only VOX as the isolation is excellent... Another writer is correct to some extent in that the Flex has a 10 Band equalizer which mitigates somewhat the quality of the mike However I definitely get the best reports from the RadioSports... __ Howard S. White Ph.D. P. Eng., VE3GFW/K6 ex-AE6SM KY6LA Website: www.ky6la.com No Good Deed Goes Unpunished Ham Antennas Save Lives - Katrina, 2003 2007 San Diego Fires, 911 -Original Message- From: john molenda [mailto:jmolend...@outlook.com] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 7:57 AM To: John Kramer; FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Radiosport headset for Flex radios I have a radio sport headset from Arlan comm. I dont use the red button it is a ptt . I run vox with my 6700 and elecraft kx3 it works great very comfortable and provides good isolation . The ear pad go over the ears and is very comfortable. lastly call the co. the guy who runs it is very nice and will answer all your questions also 5yr warranty ! and very high quality . John kb2huk On 3/28/2014 8:44 AM, John Kramer wrote: I own the 3 Flex 5000 / 3000 and 1500 radio's, and I am looking to buy a really good headset to use with them. I have been turned off the Heil variants, and want to try something better. I know that the Radiosport headsets are rated very favourably. They are pricy when trying to buy a pair outside the USA, and I don't mind paying for quality, but I also don't want to make a mistake. They look really large and heavyand whats up with the PTT button on the side of the ear cup - I can't see myself poking the earpiece everytime I want to PTT. Yes, I have a foot pedal PTT, but what happens when I go portable...I don't want to lug a PTT foot pedal wherever I go. Do any of you Flexers own a pair of these Radiosport headsets ? and what is the audio like ? both TX and RX ? Comfort ? not too heavy ? How would it rate compared to a cheaper Yamaha or computer headset ? 73 and good weekend John, ZS5J ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Radiosport headset for Flex radios
The 6700 Series does provide a Bias voltage but I am not aware if such is true for the 3000. Anyways..the radiosport has many different mike elements available.. as I said, My current favorite is their S5 element which always garners superb reports... __ Howard S. White Ph.D. P. Eng., VE3GFW/K6 ex-AE6SM KY6LA Website: www.ky6la.comhttp://www.ky6la.com/ No Good Deed Goes Unpunished Ham Antennas Save Lives - Katrina, 2003 2007 San Diego Fires, 911 From: Keith Watson [mailto:ke...@keithwatson.com] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 6:53 PM To: Dr. Howard S. White; flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Radiosport headset for Flex radios Unless the mic in the boom is an electret style mic that requires a bias voltage. To the best of my knowledge, the 3000, or any of the other for that matter, provide bias voltage for a electret style mic. Keith... N9TX On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 8:32 PM, Dr. Howard S. White drpa...@kleega.commailto:drpa...@kleega.com wrote: I don't have a 3000 but I don't see where it should be any different than the 5000 or 6700 that I have. Just a foster connector. __ Howard S. White Ph.D. P. Eng., VE3GFW/K6 ex-AE6SM KY6LA Website: www.ky6la.comhttp://www.ky6la.com No Good Deed Goes Unpunished Ham Antennas Save Lives - Katrina, 2003 2007 San Diego Fires, 911 Sent from my iPhone On Mar 28, 2014, at 6:07 PM, Don Plunkett dp...@telus.netmailto:dp...@telus.net wrote: No matter which headset/mic that one uses ... how does one make the mike on the headset work with a flex 3000? I do not know why, but I just cannot figure it out. Theoretically it should not matter which boom mike you use, it is only quality of the output that is variable ... I would really like some help on this one. Thanks in advance Don VA6FH -Original Message- From: FlexRadio [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.bizmailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Dr. Howard S. White Sent: March-28-14 11:36 AM To: john molenda; John Kramer; FlexRadio@flex-radio.bizmailto:FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Radiosport headset for Flex radios I have the Radiosport Headsets... and also several other brands of headsets including a couple of Heil's which are LOW quality junk I use them on an IC-756 Pro3, a Flex 5000A and a Flex 6700 I definitely prefer the Radiosports over ALL other headsets.. they are very comfortable especially during a long contest or DX session. They cut out the background noise much better than my so called Noise Cancelling Heil junk... Receive audio quality is excellent They are perhaps the best constructed headsets I own I get superb audio reports on my Radiosports... I have tried various different elements...I think currently my favorite is the 205 I do not use the PTT button but only VOX as the isolation is excellent... Another writer is correct to some extent in that the Flex has a 10 Band equalizer which mitigates somewhat the quality of the mike However I definitely get the best reports from the RadioSports... __ Howard S. White Ph.D. P. Eng., VE3GFW/K6 ex-AE6SM KY6LA Website: www.ky6la.comhttp://www.ky6la.com No Good Deed Goes Unpunished Ham Antennas Save Lives - Katrina, 2003 2007 San Diego Fires, 911 -Original Message- From: john molenda [mailto:jmolend...@outlook.commailto:jmolend...@outlook.com] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 7:57 AM To: John Kramer; FlexRadio@flex-radio.bizmailto:FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Radiosport headset for Flex radios I have a radio sport headset from Arlan comm. I dont use the red button it is a ptt . I run vox with my 6700 and elecraft kx3 it works great very comfortable and provides good isolation . The ear pad go over the ears and is very comfortable. lastly call the co. the guy who runs it is very nice and will answer all your questions also 5yr warranty ! and very high quality . John kb2huk On 3/28/2014 8:44 AM, John Kramer wrote: I own the 3 Flex 5000 / 3000 and 1500 radio's, and I am looking to buy a really good headset to use with them. I have been turned off the Heil variants, and want to try something better. I know that the Radiosport headsets are rated very favourably. They are pricy when trying to buy a pair outside the USA, and I don't mind paying for quality, but I also don't want to make a mistake. They look really large and heavyand whats up with the PTT button on the side of the ear cup - I can't see myself poking the earpiece everytime I want to PTT. Yes, I have a foot pedal PTT, but what happens when I go portable...I don't want to lug a PTT foot pedal wherever I go. Do any of you Flexers own a pair of these Radiosport headsets ? and what is the audio like ? both TX and RX ? Comfort ? not too heavy ? How would it rate compared to a cheaper Yamaha or computer headset ? 73
[Flexradio] Visalia DX Conference - Youtube Video - Flex 6700 in Action
I have posted a video of the Visalia DX Convention with the First Public Demonstration of the Flex 6700 http://youtu.be/vLXjL6hoIYg Not too much about the Convention but mostly the radio in operation... The Flex 6700 radio was definitely working but clearly it was a beta test unit. I did manage to crash the software at least once and many features are yet to be fully operational. For the uninitiated... the radio software is now a simple browse that does NOT need a major computer system All the processing is now done inside the radio with its own computer power... it should even ultimately be able to run on your iPad or other simple device... Interestingly it was interfaced directly to N1MM Contest Logger, a SteppIR DB-18 and an Alpha 9500 so it clearly was set up for contesting. While I am not the contest Ultra Maven... I personally found the clean simple interface much more intuitive for contesting than my Flex 5000 as you really never need to have your hands leave the logger keyboard. I can see where the Flex will finally be more than competitive, if not excel the K3 for contests. In spite of the limitations of the beta test software, the receiver performance was astounding. It appeared that the radio was hearing down to -142dBm (or about S0 - 15db or almost 2 ½ S Units below S0) BUT what was more astounding was that they introduced DSP gain into the system so that it could hear down to -149 dBm or about the phase noise levels. I am not sure how to measure down to those levels as the thermal noise in my test equipment is higher than that. (The figures are un-calibrated- we will see what Sherwood says) Adjacent Channel rejection appeared be out of the worldyou could totally block an S9+40db signal 100Hz away. This would be especially important in multi-stations AND you do not Need to use any Roofing Filters Of course it was really cool to be able to listen to several slices of the band at the same time and easily jump from band to band without losing any information. They had 4 spectral operational but could only receive on 2 slices... (It will be 8 slices in the final model) Real World Performance... Several times we had Armchair copy in QSO's with Hams who had could barely copy our signals due to their poor antennas and outdated equipment We definitely could easily copy the very weak DX Stations... Although I am not a CW Operator .. The CW ops I talked to said it was full QSK with no delays whatsoever... Delivery Flex said they hoped to ship production units within 30 days (maybe by Dayton anyone?) however I am skeptical that they can get everything 100% by then as clearly there is still a lot of software to get right. I suspect that in order to meet that tight schedule, they will ship the first units with a reduced feature set. The good thing about a SDR is that you can easily upgrade in a matter of seconds. Bottom Line: When I read the specs and placed my order at Dayton 2012, I knew that this was going to be the radio that will set the bar for the next standard in Ham Radio However, I was personally astounded by the performance which even in Beta far exceeded my expectations. __ Howard S. White Ph.D. P. Eng., VE3GFW/K6 ex-AE6SM KY6LA Website: www.ky6la.comhttp://www.ky6la.com/ No Good Deed Goes Unpunished Ham Antennas Save Lives - Katrina, 2003 2007 San Diego Fires, 911 ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
[Flexradio] Skype and VOX
I really wish someone could make Skype trigger the VOX ... The delay to manually hit PTT is unacceptable... __ Howard S. White Ph.D. P. Eng., VE3GFW/K6 ex-AE6SM KY6LA Website: www.ky6la.com No Good Deed Goes Unpunished Ham Antennas Save Lives - Katrina, 2003 2007 San Diego Fires, 911 ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Skype
Has anyone ever figured out how to use VOX with Skype on the Ipad. I am using Logmein and Skype I find the manual PTT latency to be very long __ Howard S. White Ph.D. P. Eng., VE3GFW/K6 ex-AE6SM KY6LA Website: www.ky6la.com No Good Deed Goes Unpunished Ham Antennas Save Lives - Katrina, 2003 2007 San Diego Fires, 911 ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
[Flexradio] Using the VOX on Skype?
Yesterday I finally made some QSO's remotely on my Flex 5000 via my iPad. I had installed on my iPad, 1. LogMeIn Ignition to control my Flex Computer and 2. Skype to send and receive Audio On the Flex Computer, I installed 1. LogMeIn, - to control the computer screen remotely 2. Skype, - to send and receive audio 3. DDUTIL, - a control program that connects my SteppIR MonstIR, Rotor, PW1, WN2 Power Meters to the Flex 4. Virtual Audio Cable, - instead of physical connections all Audio is inside the computer as digital bits, and 5. PowerSDR. - the Flex control program We were operating from Rob's WA3IHV house in Escondido, CA on 14,172 using his legacy of the 20th Century IC-7700 Radio. I connected to my home station in La Jolla, CA about 25 miles away over my iPad via Rob's WiFi Network. While my home network has a download Speed of 20Mb/s and upload speed of 2Mb/s I did not check Rob's network speed. Remotely I automatically tuned the SteppIR to 14172 and rotated the beam north using DDUTIL Rob gave a call and we heard him distinctly at about S6. I then gave a call into my iPad and we heard me at S6 at Rob's There was a definitely Internet Delay of about ½ second... so it sounded like an echo chamber at Rob's albeit it would be OK if we were not listening to ourselves. It would be too long a delay for CW Contesting but adequate for Digital and SSB. I then went to Costco in Poway, CA using the 3G feature while sitting on a bench in the parking lot. I remotely turned the radio to 14243 in the hope of working Pat W6D on his DXpedition to Dayton No luck with Pat but I was able to make a QSO even using the slower 3G. The trick was once I tuned the radio to the frequency, I freed up bandwidth by only using Skype and not LogMeIn as I did not need to see the band then. The exciting thing for me is that I can travel to Dayton or to Europe or sit in my living room, only need to carry my iPad and yet not miss out on any DX from my house. HOWEVER... I cannot seem to get the VOX to activate PTT under Skype. I can transmit OK using MOX but I cannot seem to be able to make the VOX activate under Skype Since I am sure someone has already made this work OK, What AM I MISSING? I would like to fix this before I fly to Dayton on Thursday albeit with LogMeIn I can change the Flex Remotely. __ Howard S. White Ph.D. P. Eng., VE3GFW/K6 ex-AE6SM KY6LA Website: www.ky6la.comhttp://www.ky6la.com/ No Good Deed Goes Unpunished Ham Antennas Save Lives - Katrina, 2003 2007 San Diego Fires, 911 ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Plasma TV RF Noise
I have two Panasonic Plasma TV's The older 50 one (2004) is noisy as heck... great picture but wipes out the bands when in use. The newer 58 one (2008) is quiet.. no noise whatsoever.. I also have a LCD in the Shack - no noise My solution was to mount the 58 in the bedroom where my wife likes to watch TV So I can turn off the 50 in the living room when I am operating. I have tried torroids, isolators, etc, etc... to no avail. The noise is clearly originating internally I recall reading somewhere that it likely is the power supply The good news is that large screen TV's have come down so far in price that I probably will upgrade the 50 to a 65 LED and throw it away The issue is that I watch football which looks a lot better on Plasma than LCD or LED which is why I have not done so already... IF anyone ever comes up with a solution, please let us know __ Howard S. White Ph.D. P. Eng., VE3GFW/K6 ex-AE6SM KY6LA Website: www.ky6la.com No Good Deed Goes Unpunished ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
[Flexradio] Comparing Flex to IC-7800 and FT950 RE: Fwd: NX6T JIDX SSB Contest 2010
Had the opportunity to work both a Yaesu FT-950 and an IC-7800 from the contest station NX6T today during the JIDX Contest... NX6T is located on a 1100' mountain top near Bonsall California with multiple antennas including a 3Element SteppIR and a 2 Element 40 M Beam on a separate 70' Tower trailer. Being in the country the site is quite quiet.. and the mountain top has excellent propagation characteristics... albeit my house with a SteppIR MonstIR @85'but about 500' ASL lower actually propagates about the same to Japan because I am much nearer to the ocean Bottom Line I hated both radios which frankly seemed both awkward and very primitive compared to the Flex. BTW I also have an IC-756 Pro3 that I use with the Flex for SO2R Operations.. but those operations are rareSo I am very familiar with Icom Radios The FT-950 is a 20 year old design...no scope.. hence it seems to be like one is working totally blind... can't see anything.. so you waste an inordinate amount of time tuning around trying to find stations to listen too... really hated that blind radio. The IC-7800 is a 5 year old Icom flagship design... (I seriously considered buying one a couple of years ago before I bought the Flex) Like the Pro3, it has a small primitive marginally usable scope ( I use 2 - 24 Monitors on the Flex) ...you could see things but the refresh rate was far too slow and the screen was far too small to really catch quick CQ's More amazing to me was how poorly the filters sucked... they did such an incredibly poor job of filtering out the adjacent CQ calls that it was very difficult to hear weak signals ... as much as I was hearing all the talk about roofing filters, etc, etc in the 7800... Surprisingly they really do not perform that effectively compared to the Flex and the ability to control the width and pass band with all those different knobs is so awkward compared to the simple mousing of the pass band on the Flex that is seem that I had gone back to horse and buggy days I just came home and turned on my Flex 5000 What a pleasure it is to be able to actually see what is on the band in real time... you can actually see quick answers to your CQ's and see short CQ's by the JA stations No time wasted tuning around trying to hear weak one... if you could see it, point and click, you could work it Q rate went up immediately More important for me was the absolute brick wall filters... I could totally remove the adjacent CQ signals It was night and day during the contest...I could clearly make out signals that would have been drowned out by the mush on the IC-7800 I could quickly move the filters and pass band around with the mouse to eliminate virtually all adjacent interference...What a pleasure...Now my site is nowhere near as quiet as the Contest Station... but still I could hear much better with the Flex in heavy traffic than on the IC-7800... That said, the Flex still has some shortcomings and issues as a contest box The focus issue which will be addressed in Deep Impact, it has far too many controls in the contest skin, the scope needs to be integrated with a band map and/or spotting map as well as a bunch of other things that could make it the dominant contest box Bottom Line: After using the IC-7800 in a contest..I would not want one even if it were given to me for free...and frankly I am glad I did not buy one Here is the video of the NX6T contest station during tonite's JIDX contest... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bAg2uQetQsfeature=youtube_gdata_player __ Howard S. White Ph.D. P. Eng., VE3GFW/K6 ex-AE6SM KY6LA Website: www.ky6la.comhttp://www.ky6la.com/ No Good Deed Goes Unpunished Ham Antennas Save Lives - Katrina, 2003 2007 San Diego Fires, 911 ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
[Flexradio] Comparing Flex to K3 for contesting - It's not the features it's the Interface
Interesting post. What it boils down to is user-interface and ergonomics, not features. This was my point exactly When comparing the Flex to the older IC-7800 and FT-950 Paradigms... There really needs to be a contest skin/interface for the Flex It needs to integrate contest logging into a single interface, with spots and bandmap on the Real Time Screen. Once that is accomplished, the Flex with its large real time display would be the premier contest machine. __ Howard S. White Ph.D. P. Eng., VE3GFW/K6 ex-AE6SM KY6LA Website: www.ky6la.comhttp://www.ky6la.com/ No Good Deed Goes Unpunished Ham Antennas Save Lives - Katrina, 2003 2007 San Diego Fires, 911 ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Comparing Flex to K3 for contesting - It's not the features it's the Interface
I very much understand that the Contest Interface has to wait until Deep Impact You and me both agree that they should finish with PowerSDR ASAP and get on with Deep Impact already In fact, that was exactly the question I asked at the SDR forum back at Dayton 6 months ago... When can we expect Deep Impact? But I also understand the realities of business and the need to have a reliable working product to sell while to pay for the costs of investing the time and money into the development of DI. The Flex with all its advantages could be the premier contest machine It only needs the software. No Small Order. __ Howard S. White Ph.D. P. Eng., VE3GFW/K6 ex-AE6SM KY6LA Website: www.ky6la.comhttp://www.ky6la.com/ No Good Deed Goes Unpunished Ham Antennas Save Lives - Katrina, 2003 2007 San Diego Fires, 911 From: br...@lloyd.com [mailto:br...@lloyd.com] On Behalf Of Brian Lloyd Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 6:52 PM To: Dr. Howard S. White Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Comparing Flex to K3 for contesting - It's not the features it's the Interface On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Dr. Howard S. White drpa...@kleega.commailto:drpa...@kleega.com wrote: Interesting post. What it boils down to is user-interface and ergonomics, not features. This was my point exactly When comparing the Flex to the older IC-7800 and FT-950 Paradigms... There really needs to be a contest skin/interface for the Flex It needs to integrate contest logging into a single interface, with spots and bandmap on the Real Time Screen. Once that is accomplished, the Flex with its large real time display would be the premier contest machine. That is going to have to wait for Deep Impact. You just can't change the UI for the current version of PowerSDR without completely breaking the rest of PowerSDR. But DI is going to provide the ability to create any number of different UI's. I, for one, want Flex to stop working on PowerSDR and spend 100% of their time on DI. I can't wait for Flex to finally say, We have no intention of doing any more work on PowerSDR. Here is the code as it stands now. Have at it boys! -- Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL 3191 Western Dr. Cameron Park, CA 95682 br...@lloyd.commailto:br...@lloyd.com +1.767.617.1365 (Dominica) +1.931.492.6776 (USA) (+1.931.4.WB6RQN) ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] VFO Knob
I bought a PowerMate VFO knob with my 5000A especially for my friends who like to play with their knobs. I tried to use it in contests but a knob was basically almost useless compared to the mouse which is ideal for search and pounce tuning. To make matters worse, in contests it is very wise to disable the keyboard input to PWRSDR to prevent inadvertent frequency changes caused by keystrokes in the wrong window focus when you are typing quickly. Once you disable the keyboard input, of course, you can't use the knob anymore as the PowerMate emulates key strokes... Since the knob was basically useless, I adjusted the PowerMate Software so that the internal Blue Light on the PowerMate went on and off to give my station some more sex appeal and impress my knob loving friends. But frankly that got boring too... and the knob soon gathered dust. Yesterday I gave the knob to a Flex Newbie who is also a well accomplished contester to try out... But I am willing to bet that he will soon end up preferring the speed and accuracy of the mouse over the knob in contests. My experience is that almost every experienced operator who tries Flex initially wants to have a knob to tune the VFO. Heck I bought one too just in case. But after a contest or 2 they quickly abandon knob tuning YMMV __ Howard S. White Ph.D. P. Eng., VE3GFW/K6 ex-AE6SM KY6LA Website: www.ky6la.com No Good Deed Goes Unpunished Ham Antennas Save Lives - Katrina, 2003 2007 San Diego Fires, 911 VFO Knob I have owned my 5000A for a month now and don't enjoy using the mouse to tune the VFO. I owned a Ten-Tec Pegasus for a few years and enjoyed using their Tuning Pod that has a great feeling VFO knob and a programmable key pad. I am presently using a Kensington Orbit Trackball that has a free spinning scrolling wheel around the track ball, but would like to try one of the VFO knobs like the Griffin PowerMate or ShuttlePRO, and would like to hear comments on your experience with there devices. Please note, I am not looking for comments on why you like using the mouse... thanks. Joe N9VX ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
[Flexradio] CW ID'er for SSB?
If you have ever listened to the long winded pontifications of 80M, 40M and 20M, you know some hams can talk for a very long time during a round table. They usually have CW ID'ers that automatically ID every 10 minutes to keep them legal. It would be very convenient to be able to automatically send a CW ID every 10 minutes during a SSB conversation. Anyone figured out how to do this? __ Howard S. White Ph.D. P. Eng., VE3GFW/K6 ex-AE6SM KY6LA Website: www.ky6la.comhttp://www.ky6la.com/ No Good Deed Goes Unpunished Ham Antennas Save Lives - Katrina, 2003 2007 San Diego Fires, 911 ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
[Flexradio] FW: CW ID'er for SSB?
Tim: http://www.romacsoftware.com/CWIdentDefault.asp Is exactly what I want... and I would be happy to pay the $19 the author wants However. Logically it should go through VAC but it seems that one may not be able to run VAC and SSB simultaneously? So perhaps the enhancement might be as simple (?- yes I know nothing is ever simple) as being able to mix VAC audio into the SSB stream rather than writing another entire enhancement?? __ Howard S. White Ph.D. P. Eng., VE3GFW/K6 ex-AE6SM KY6LA Website: www.ky6la.com No Good Deed Goes Unpunished Ham Antennas Save Lives - Katrina, 2003 2007 San Diego Fires, 911 -Original Message- From: johne tds.net [mailto:jo...@tds.net] Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 3:27 PM To: Dr. Howard S. White Subject: Re: [Flexradio] CW ID'er for SSB? http://www.romacsoftware.com/CWIdentDefault.asp de John K0CQW On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Dr. Howard S. White drpa...@kleega.com wrote: If you have ever listened to the long winded pontifications of 80M, 40M and 20M, you know some hams can talk for a very long time during a round table. They usually have CW ID'ers that automatically ID every 10 minutes to keep them legal. It would be very convenient to be able to automatically send a CW ID every 10 minutes during a SSB conversation. Anyone figured out how to do this? __ Howard S. White Ph.D. P. Eng., VE3GFW/K6 ex-AE6SM KY6LA Website: www.ky6la.comhttp://www.ky6la.com/ No Good Deed Goes Unpunished Ham Antennas Save Lives - Katrina, 2003 2007 San Diego Fires, 911 ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Dumb question about com0com
Having experimented with both Com0Com and VSP_Manager, I find that VSP is much easier to use, loads new ports significantly faster and seems more reliable. The fact that it contains signed drivers is a real benefit. __ Howard S. White Ph.D. P. Eng., KY6LA Website: www.ky6la.com No Good Deed Goes Unpunished Ham Antennas Save Lives - Katrina, 2003 2007 San Diego Fires, 911 Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: David Beumer W0DHB d...@w0dhb.net Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:51:16 To: Anthony Martinanth...@consultexcel.com.au Cc: flexra...@yahoogroups.com; flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Dumb question about com0com Anthony You can get the Eltima based virtual serial port software at no cost from Steve Nance K5FR at http://k5fr.com/ddutilwiki/index.php?title=VSP_Manager This software works with flavors of Windows XP,Vista and 7 32 or 64 bit .. Dave W0DHB Anthony Martin wrote: Thanks Tim, Very good response :) -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Tim Ellison Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 9:01 AM To: Anthony Martin; flexradio@flex-radio.biz; flexra...@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Dumb question about com0com You asked a lot of questions. See my comments in-line below -Tim -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Anthony Martin Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:26 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz; flexra...@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Dumb question about com0com Speaking of Virtual Serial Port software.. Does anyone have an opinion (or hard data) to show which is the best, [Tim] I recommend the Eltima drivers for numerous reasons. If you are using 32-bit operating systems that do not require signed drivers, then I recommend Com0Com. Lowest CPU use, [Tim] They all use so little it is insignificant. fastest and easiest to use? [Tim] Speed isn't an issue, they all pass data at the data rates you configure them for. I rank Eltima (1), Com0Com (2) from a compatibility and ease of use stand point. vCom should only be momentarily considered if using XP since the Configurator does not work under Vista and it is no longer supported by the developer. Com0Com works better than vCom on XP Is VSP (Eltima) better than the free alternatives? [Tim] Yes, Eltima is, IMHO better. It has to do with two factors. The drivers are digitally signed and will work with Win7 and Vista x64 operating systems. Second, the Eltima driver does not exhibit the behavior of locking up on x64 operating systems like Com0Com does on my system (aka it works). Is there something else that is better? [Tim] Not that I have found. On the same topic, im currently running HRD to connect to my Flex3k. Its laggy as hell! A good second delay when doing anything in powerSDR or HRD.. I must admit I do not really use HRD for anything other than running the IP server thing so that the logging program reads frequency from powerSDR... So really there is a couple of issues.. 1: Is the lag normal, if not - is it the program? [Tim] This is a well know anomaly (bug) in HRD, it doesn't like virtual comport drivers. There have been reports it works somewhat faster with the Eltima drivers, but your mileage will vary. I don't use HRD. It is a lot of overhead for getting CAT control of DM780, so I don't use DM780. Im using Com0Com and windows 7. 2: Is there a good logger that will work (fast) with PowerSDR that will read the mode/frequency [Tim] Just about all of them. The CAT command (ZZIF or IF) returns just one text string with the info needed for the logger to read the frequency and mode. The speed is directly related to how frequently the logger polls. The speed of the virtual comport connection is insignificant compared to the polling time. While I'm ranting, is there any real reason to use VAC? [Tim] Oh, well, let's see...because there is nothing else available that will allow you to transfer audio digitally from PowerSDR to other sound card based programs. I mean the cost of IT hardware nowdays is loose change - why not just buy a second soundcard and reduce the load on the CPU ? [Tim] Actually it will increase the CP load and incur hardware interrupts for the OS to access the sound card. These can adversely affect the performance of the Firewire driver and the radio hardware. Is there a reason? [Tim] The reasons are several. 1. The additional A-to-D and D-A conversion adds noise to the signal and degrades your S/N ratio. 2. The additional audio cables are multiple ingress points for RF getting into the radio or the computer. 3. The additional audio cables are additional low potential connections between the computer and the radio resulting in ground loops
Re: [Flexradio] What external antenna tuners are folks using with Flexradio?
Buy a Steppir antenna. Perfect match everywhere. No ATU or tuner needed KY6LA --Original Message-- From: Mark Lunday Sender: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz To: FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz To: flexra...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Flexradio] What external antenna tuners are folks using with Flexradio? Sent: Sep 15, 2009 6:57 PM Just wondering, looking for recommendation. Thanks Mark Lunday WD4ELG Hillsborough, NC - FM06kb mailto:wd4...@arrl.net wd4...@arrl.net http://wd4elg.net http://wd4elg.net http://wd4elg.net http://wd4elg.blogspot.com ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to drpa...@kleega.com __ Howard S. White Ph.D. P. Eng., KY6LA Website: www.ky6la.com No Good Deed Goes Unpunished Ham Antennas Save Lives - Katrina, 2003 2007 San Diego Fires, 911 Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Flexradio] Windows 7...worth the trouble?
On our commercial installations we beta tested Vista for almost a year before deciding that there was no economic benefit and significant performance degradation to upgrade to Vista. Like most businesses we stayed with XP Pro and even now pay a $120 premium to Dell to remove Vista and deliver XP. Have beta tested W7. It is definitely Not Ready for installation into a commercial operation. We will wait until W7 SP1 is release before we even seriously consider evaluating it. Frankly I do not see any significant killer enhancements in W7 and I have serious concerns about drivers at this early stage. At this point it would be difficult to justify moving from XP. __ Howard S. White Ph.D. P. Eng., KY6LA Website: www.ky6la.com No Good Deed Goes Unpunished Ham Antennas Save Lives - Katrina, 2003 2007 San Diego Fires, 911 Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Neal Campbell nealk...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 19:15:05 To: Jim Rrizzo...@hotmail.com Cc: se_on...@hotmail.com; FlexRadioReflectorflexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Windows 7...worth the trouble? The biggest problem right now is that you have to cold-start when the new release comes out so you will wipe out everything you have done with the release candidate. Its only about 15 weeks until the official release so take the summer off and let things progress. Most people would wait for the first service pack to purchase. Neal Campbell Abroham Neal Software Programming Services for Windows, OS X and Linux www.abrohamnealsoftware.com (540) 242 0911 LOW-COST COMPUTER FOR SDR at http://www.sdrsystems.com On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 7:11 PM, Jim Rrizzo...@hotmail.com wrote: Simply put, I believe that the old adage If it ain't broke, don't fix it applies here. I'm not even running Pretty Betty. Jim K5HY From: se_on...@hotmail.com To: brian-wb6...@lloyd.com Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 21:57:52 + CC: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Windows 7...worth the trouble? Brian, I think you got it right with There is the tendency to think in terms of newer is better. The real questions are: I've created more gray hair by updating my personal computer to some new software or widget just or the heck of it when everything was working fine. I think for Windows 7, the sexy Aero interface is really nice eye candy, but as you point out are the hassles of moving off of XP which when it's all said and done is very stable for most people, including me, for that eye candy. I'll probably not be an early adopter, heck I have stayed away from Vista where possible, but I know that the sex appeal of Windows 7 will get me in the endLOL _ Get your vacation photos on your phone! http://windowsliveformobile.com/en-us/photos/default.aspx?OCID=0809TL-HM ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to rizzo...@hotmail.com ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to nealk...@gmail.com ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to drpa...@kleega.com ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Flexradio] OT
I built my first computer in1958 from an article in Popular Electronics. It was a total of 4 bits. Used 17 tubes. Hooked it to a home brew Xmter and sent counts from 0 to 15 on 40M to a second one I built to receive them. You guys make me feel ancient and I really am not that old! BTW had to get my ham license so I could legally enter the project into a high school science fair. __ Howard S. White Ph.D. P. Eng., KY6LA Website: www.ky6la.com No Good Deed Goes Unpunished Ham Antennas Save Lives - Katrina, 2003 2007 San Diego Fires, 911 Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Geep Howell g...@wa4rts.net Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 15:08:40 To: Flex RadioFlexRadio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] OT Any of you youngsters remember the Ferguson Big Board? Z80 CPU and 64k memory. My first real computer, built with my own two hands and it actually worked first time. Two (count 'em at $450 each) 8 Seagate floppies. CP/M forever! geep On Jun 23, 2009, at 1:06 PM, N4PY2 wrote: I remember back in 1976, we were developing a store controller system that used an 8 inch floppy drive as its main storage device. The diskette drive used a geneva mechanism for moving the head. It took 5 full seconds for the head to move from one end of the floppy to the other! Carl Moreschi N4PY 121 Little Bell Drive Bell Mountain Hays, NC 28635 - Original Message - From: Tim Ellison telli...@itsco.com To: N4PY2 n4...@earthlink.net; Ross Stenberg ross.stenb...@charter.net ; Flex Radio FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 12:44 PM Subject: RE: [SPAM] Re: [Flexradio] OT It is tough getting old. I recently threw away an original IBM XT 10 MB hard drive (I am sure the seek times were I the seconds). Oh the bygone days of the 16-bit 8088 4.77 MHz personal computer. My toaster has more processing power than the old XT. We have come so far -Tim -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz ] On Behalf Of N4PY2 Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 12:33 PM To: Ross Stenberg; Flex Radio Subject: [SPAM] Re: [Flexradio] OT I have a bunch of them myself that I should throw away. But I don't have anymore 8 inch floppies! Carl Moreschi N4PY 121 Little Bell Drive Bell Mountain Hays, NC 28635 - Original Message - From: Ross Stenberg ross.stenb...@charter.net To: Flex Radio FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 12:28 PM Subject: [Flexradio] OT Nothing relevant but just wanted to mention that I just found an old box full of 5 1/4 floppy disks. Throwing away originals of MS-DOS 5.0, Windows 3.0, ProComm Plus, Norton 6.01, AfterDark screensaver, and Orchid video drivers. It's tough to get old. 73 Ross K9COX ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/