Re: [Flexradio] F3K acting up
Dave - Many of the problems with PSDR are, as Tony points out due to changes within the PC. Cut to the chase and look for excessive DPCs (Delayed Procedure Call). There is a small, free utility called DPCLAT.EXE which you can download. If you load it from the original site, they have a readable essay on what is going on, and how to look for offending items. 73 Ken AC0HO On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Tony Estep wrote: > On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 11:15 PM, Dave Gomberg wrote: > > > There sure are a ton of bugs in PSDR > > > == > Well, it's true that coding and testing errors remain, even at this late > date. But a lot of the problems arise from the fact that the design of > putting the radio inside the computer, and at the mercy of the computer's > configuration, turned out to be a lot more complicated than the designers > originally thought. When the computer goes to sleep, for example, the ports > may go to sleep and the drivers may lose their mind; that could be what > happened to you. Or, on another note, the Flex SDR design naturally didn't > anticipate the arrival of cloud storage, which creates a bunch of > interrupts that can clobber PSDR. Every OS update, or even every new user > application, brings the possibility of environment changes that can mess > things up. The original idea was that making your radio software-based > would reduce obsolescence, but the effect has been the opposite: changes in > the computing environment can obsolete code that once worked. Keeping it > going is sorta like running on a treadmill that keeps speeding up. > > Tony KT0NY > ___ > FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: > http://www.flexradio.com/ > ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] F3K acting up
On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 11:15 PM, Dave Gomberg wrote: > There sure are a ton of bugs in PSDR > == Well, it's true that coding and testing errors remain, even at this late date. But a lot of the problems arise from the fact that the design of putting the radio inside the computer, and at the mercy of the computer's configuration, turned out to be a lot more complicated than the designers originally thought. When the computer goes to sleep, for example, the ports may go to sleep and the drivers may lose their mind; that could be what happened to you. Or, on another note, the Flex SDR design naturally didn't anticipate the arrival of cloud storage, which creates a bunch of interrupts that can clobber PSDR. Every OS update, or even every new user application, brings the possibility of environment changes that can mess things up. The original idea was that making your radio software-based would reduce obsolescence, but the effect has been the opposite: changes in the computing environment can obsolete code that once worked. Keeping it going is sorta like running on a treadmill that keeps speeding up. Tony KT0NY ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] F3K acting up
At 20:33 1/31/2014, Neal Campbell wrote: Start with a new database and see if the problem still exists. You might have done it and I didnt see it in your note but if you haven't tried it, do so! 73 Neal Campbell Abroham Neal LLC Well I turned the whole thing off in disgust when I couldn't recover, waited a few hours, went back and powered it on an all was OK. Have my fingers crossed. What caused it (what happened just before) was that I left my rig on and powered up. I believe that PC is configured to sleep after an hour, so that may have happened. But power cycling didn't fix it. There may be a PSDR bug that timed sleep causes database corruption. There sure are a ton of bugs in PSDR so it wouldn't shock me. If it happens again I will reset the database. Should back it up now while all is well. -- Dave Gomberg, San Francisco NE5EE Programming since 1961 All addresses, phones, etc. at http://www.wcf.com/ham/info.html - ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] F3K acting up
Start with a new database and see if the problem still exists. You might have done it and I didnt see it in your note but if you haven't tried it, do so! 73 Neal Campbell Abroham Neal LLC On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 9:35 PM, Jim Fuller N7VR wrote: > Hi Dave, > I am not sure what to tell you. > I had this issue twice. > The first time was when the loop antenna had one lead disconnect from the > balun. Once the antenna was fixed it went back to normal. > The Second was after my cat decided to play around behind the desk. I found > that RF got into the Firewire cable after she had relocated the Firewire > cable on top of the RG-213 to wall antenna port cable. Even with the > toroids > on the Firewire, 10 watts was not liked by the Firewire System. > > Jim Fuller > N7VR -- http://www.n7vr.org > > -Original Message- > From: FlexRadio [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of > Dave > Gomberg > Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 5:51 PM > To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz > Subject: [Flexradio] F3K acting up > > I have a Flex 3000 with PSDR 2.7.2 that has been running generally fine > until this PM. > When I went to tune, no power out was shown. I rebooted XP Pro SP3 and one > tune effort worked a bit, but subsequent efforts showed no power out again. > I took power off the F3K and the PC, then powered all back on, symptom > continued. When I ATU or Tune, the SWR sweeps down the full range of the > meter, then starts back again at the high end. > Something is screwed up, but I have no idea what. > What should I do now? > > > -- > Dave Gomberg, San Francisco NE5EE Programming since 1961 > All addresses, phones, etc. at http://www.wcf.com/ham/info.html > - > > > ___ > FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: > http://www.flexradio.com/ > > > - > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3684/7050 - Release Date: 01/31/14 > > - > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3684/7050 - Release Date: 01/31/14 > > > ___ > FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: > http://www.flexradio.com/ > ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] F3K acting up
Hi Dave, I am not sure what to tell you. I had this issue twice. The first time was when the loop antenna had one lead disconnect from the balun. Once the antenna was fixed it went back to normal. The Second was after my cat decided to play around behind the desk. I found that RF got into the Firewire cable after she had relocated the Firewire cable on top of the RG-213 to wall antenna port cable. Even with the toroids on the Firewire, 10 watts was not liked by the Firewire System. Jim Fuller N7VR -- http://www.n7vr.org -Original Message- From: FlexRadio [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Dave Gomberg Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 5:51 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] F3K acting up I have a Flex 3000 with PSDR 2.7.2 that has been running generally fine until this PM. When I went to tune, no power out was shown. I rebooted XP Pro SP3 and one tune effort worked a bit, but subsequent efforts showed no power out again. I took power off the F3K and the PC, then powered all back on, symptom continued. When I ATU or Tune, the SWR sweeps down the full range of the meter, then starts back again at the high end. Something is screwed up, but I have no idea what. What should I do now? -- Dave Gomberg, San Francisco NE5EE Programming since 1961 All addresses, phones, etc. at http://www.wcf.com/ham/info.html - ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3684/7050 - Release Date: 01/31/14 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3684/7050 - Release Date: 01/31/14 ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
[Flexradio] F3K acting up
I have a Flex 3000 with PSDR 2.7.2 that has been running generally fine until this PM. When I went to tune, no power out was shown. I rebooted XP Pro SP3 and one tune effort worked a bit, but subsequent efforts showed no power out again. I took power off the F3K and the PC, then powered all back on, symptom continued. When I ATU or Tune, the SWR sweeps down the full range of the meter, then starts back again at the high end. Something is screwed up, but I have no idea what. What should I do now? -- Dave Gomberg, San Francisco NE5EE Programming since 1961 All addresses, phones, etc. at http://www.wcf.com/ham/info.html - ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
