Re: [Flexradio] No 1 watt units

2007-01-06 Thread Larry Loen
Dave Ackrill wrote:

>So, what happened to the idea that you wouldn't need to keep changing 
>the hardware?  I know that the 1W version will work with the new 
>software, but presumambly not as well as the new hardware and, if the 
>even newer hardware is not so much better than the old, why are they 
>necessary?
>
>  
>

As far as I'm concerned, it's alive and well.  Since I operate 
extensively, I have so far elected against sending the radio in for 
every mod.  I am several ECOs behind now.  Probably about a year's 
worth.  Someday I may rectify this, but it is most certainly not because 
the PowerSDR software is giving me any trouble.  Not to date, at any rate.

If anything, as time goes on, the software has been more stable, 
especially as I've been sticking to the official versions of late (but 
even when I was taking most of the betas, I had no particular trouble 
compared to anyone else).

This more of a "where did you come in" discussion than a "I must 
feverishly upgrade" one.  

Truth is, most products have a lot of quiet ECOs over the course of 
their lives (even just in terms of what rolls off the manufacturing 
line).  This product, with it being so open in all respects, merely 
makes this kind of thing a lot more obvious than a more closed product. 
 That's the only real difference.  And, new products, when they arrive, 
are just that.  New.




Larry  WO0Z




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Re: [Flexradio] No 1 watt units

2007-01-06 Thread Dave Ackrill
Willi Reppel wrote:
> Maarten,
>
> I do not understand Flex-Radio´s move either. There is a large potential for 
> selling a receiver-only version without 1 W or 100 W PA to radiotic 
> individuals like VLF, LF, MW,  short-wave listeners and beacon hun-ters 
> which are excluded as possible buyers because they are not licensed hams.
I have two SD1000s, one the low power type and the other with the 100W PA.

Like Maarten, I intend to use the lower power unit to drive transverters 
for 70cm and up.

However, Flex-Radio isn't the only SDR maker in the market, and there 
are other non transmitting units out there which are already available 
to people interested in a receiver only system.  The prices for which 
are coming down.

I suspect that the business case for Flex-Radio producing the low/no 
power transmit model doesn't look very attractive to them and they have 
decided that their best option is to rationalise their product range and 
do what they have done, which is to phase out the older design and 
concentrate on the newer ones.

People wanting an RX only unit, which includes me, will probably opt for 
one of the other units, like the SDR-IQ which is due out shortly, if 
they want to listen for bats, whistlers, Lowfer beacons and other 
assorted signals between DC and 30MHz.


What we haven't discussed is the idea, put out in the original articles 
and talks, about not having to update the hardware anymore when you swap 
to SDR hardware.  From what I can see, even ignoring all the 
'engineering' mods that came out for the original hardware, we are now 
seeing a lot of hardware changes.  From the 1W to the 100W there 
appeared to be major changes and now there's talk of a completely new 
set of hardware and the 1W version is obsolete and to be discontinued.  
So, what happened to the idea that you wouldn't need to keep changing 
the hardware?  I know that the 1W version will work with the new 
software, but presumambly not as well as the new hardware and, if the 
even newer hardware is not so much better than the old, why are they 
necessary?


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Re: [Flexradio] No 1 watt units

2007-01-06 Thread Willi Reppel
Maarten,

I do not understand Flex-Radio´s move either. There is a large potential for 
selling a receiver-only version without 1 W or 100 W PA to radiotic 
individuals like VLF, LF, MW,  short-wave listeners and beacon hun-ters 
which are excluded as possible buyers because they are not licensed hams. To 
this group of non-radiant radio enthusiasts  the SDR1k is barely known and 
they are barred out already before the goods news of its existence reaches 
them.
Hope that so many replies to this topic  lets Flex-Radio reconsider its 
move.

vy 73 es gl

SM6OMH  Willi

- Original Message - 
From: "Maarten N1DZ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Philip Theis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 6:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] No 1 watt units


>I initally bought the 1 watt version for my 6m and up transverters. I did
> not buy the 100 watt version as I saw the SDR1000 as an experimental
> radio. I was not sure if the SDR 1000 would be any useful for me. After
> less than 3 weeks I added the 100 watt PA as I really enjoyed the low band
> HF receive capabilities too. Soon I modified the SDR 1000 with I relais
> prior to the PA that redirects the 1 Watt signal to the transverter port.
> This Relais is activated via a homebrew poor mans UCB interface. I
> upgraded my stations to Electaft transverters that are switched via the
> poor mans UCB interface.
> This gives me 160-70cm  with 100 watts on HF. The transverter port also
> makes a very good 2nd RX for my 80 & 160m beverages.
> BTW these are very easy modifications.
> On this moment the SDR 1000 is my exclusive 160-70cm radio.
>
> With the SDR1000 hardware design it is unfortunate that the relais for the
> DEM transverter is placed prior to the PA and the preamp. If this relais
> was placed in front of the HF preamp and behind the low power PA it would
> have made transverter interfacing easier. (More Flexible)
> I feel Flexradio makes a mistake by discontinuing the 1 watt version.
> Isn't it called a FLEXradio because of the flexibility in hardware and
> software?
>
> 73 Maarten
>
> On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 21:30:30 -0500, Philip Theis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Regarding the future absence of the 1 watt unit, will there be a QRP
>> port?
>> That is absolutely necessary for transverter work.  Perhaps the new unit
>> will have better transverter capabilities.
>> I would think that as many as I encounter doing VHF/UHF work with the
>> SDR,
>> that the qrp unit would be more popular, I know it's the only SDR I own.
>> Perhaps many qrp users also work low bands, hence acquire the 100 watt
>> unit.
>> My plan had been to get one with the high power option in the future.
>> Phil K3TUF
>>
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Re: [Flexradio] No 1 watt units

2007-01-05 Thread Maarten N1DZ
I initally bought the 1 watt version for my 6m and up transverters. I did  
not buy the 100 watt version as I saw the SDR1000 as an experimental  
radio. I was not sure if the SDR 1000 would be any useful for me. After  
less than 3 weeks I added the 100 watt PA as I really enjoyed the low band  
HF receive capabilities too. Soon I modified the SDR 1000 with I relais  
prior to the PA that redirects the 1 Watt signal to the transverter port.  
This Relais is activated via a homebrew poor mans UCB interface. I  
upgraded my stations to Electaft transverters that are switched via the  
poor mans UCB interface.
This gives me 160-70cm  with 100 watts on HF. The transverter port also  
makes a very good 2nd RX for my 80 & 160m beverages.
BTW these are very easy modifications.
On this moment the SDR 1000 is my exclusive 160-70cm radio.

With the SDR1000 hardware design it is unfortunate that the relais for the  
DEM transverter is placed prior to the PA and the preamp. If this relais  
was placed in front of the HF preamp and behind the low power PA it would  
have made transverter interfacing easier. (More Flexible)
I feel Flexradio makes a mistake by discontinuing the 1 watt version.  
Isn't it called a FLEXradio because of the flexibility in hardware and  
software?

73 Maarten

On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 21:30:30 -0500, Philip Theis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Regarding the future absence of the 1 watt unit, will there be a QRP  
> port?
> That is absolutely necessary for transverter work.  Perhaps the new unit
> will have better transverter capabilities.
> I would think that as many as I encounter doing VHF/UHF work with the  
> SDR,
> that the qrp unit would be more popular, I know it's the only SDR I own.
> Perhaps many qrp users also work low bands, hence acquire the 100 watt  
> unit.
> My plan had been to get one with the high power option in the future.
> Phil K3TUF
>
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[Flexradio] No 1 watt units

2007-01-04 Thread Philip Theis
Regarding the future absence of the 1 watt unit, will there be a QRP port?
That is absolutely necessary for transverter work.  Perhaps the new unit
will have better transverter capabilities.
I would think that as many as I encounter doing VHF/UHF work with the SDR,
that the qrp unit would be more popular, I know it's the only SDR I own.
Perhaps many qrp users also work low bands, hence acquire the 100 watt unit.
My plan had been to get one with the high power option in the future.  
Phil K3TUF


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