Re: [Flexradio] Parallel Port for F3K
Further, check where the headers go. I have a couple of boards that the header goes to chips that were not installed!! Absolutely. VERY common. You have to wonder why they went to all the trouble to engineer these ports and then make them unusable. There are lots of things that are engineered on mainboards and not used or where either the connectors or the circuitry is not populated. You're designing a main board, you need to have a Southbridge (equivalent) for the USB, SMBus, and other functionality you need, and the part either includes all the serial port logic in it already, or your Southbridge has a connector to a Super I/O chip that has serial and parallel port logic in it. You can't really buy a part that doesn't HAVE these things in it. So, you design your mainboard, you wire-up the traces just in case -- There's no cost to put the traces down. And you can always not populate the socket. And the socket can be useful for various OEMs/IHVs during debugging. So, why not populate them? Because it saves some tenths of a cent, and Microsoft doesn't require it as part of getting the Designed for Windows logo. In fact, Microsoft have been actively DIScouraging parallel and serial ports on systems for years... it's called Legacy Free PC. The general belief is that using these ports tend to confuse the technologically naïve. Seriously. OTOH, back in the days of the IBM Thinkpad, I seem to recall a story about IBM removing the printer port (parallel port) from one of their Thinkpad models, and corporate types howling in protest. How would they print their Powerpoint slides? The parallel port quickly returned on subsequent models. Peter K1PGV ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Parallel Port for F3K
Thanks to all the suggestions. I will first check to see if there is a parallel port on the board, and, if not, will see about ordering another PP card. This may take me a month or so since I just broke my arm in a tractor accident and can only use one hand. Fortunately it is not the hand I use for keying! Thanks again for the help! Bill W4ISH On Jun 19, 2011, at 7:35 PM, William Evans wrote: My computer does not have a parallel port which I need to get the band information out to antenna and amplifier switches. I need ABCD info to come out of the computer when I use my 3K. Has anyone had any luck with this device?: http://www.piexx.com/index.php?main_page=indexcPath=12 I could purchase a parallel port card, but the last one I got did not work, so I am asking before purchasing anything this time. W4ISH Bill ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
[Flexradio] Parallel Port for F3K
My computer does not have a parallel port which I need to get the band information out to antenna and amplifier switches. I need ABCD info to come out of the computer when I use my 3K. Has anyone had any luck with this device?: http://www.piexx.com/index.php?main_page=indexcPath=12 I could purchase a parallel port card, but the last one I got did not work, so I am asking before purchasing anything this time. W4ISH Bill ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Parallel Port for F3K
William Evans w4ish.b...@w4ish.net wrote: My computer does not have a parallel port which I need to get the band information out to antenna and amplifier switches. I need ABCD info to come out of the computer when I use my 3K. Has anyone had any luck with this device?: http://www.piexx.com/index.php?main_page=indexcPath=12 I could purchase a parallel port card, but the last one I got did not work, so I am asking before purchasing anything this time. W4ISH Bill I got a PCI card for notalot fron Hong kong. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PCI-IEEE-1284-Parallel-Printer-LPT-Port-I-O-Card-EEP-/130477800092?pt=UK_Computing_ComputerComponents_InterfaceCardshash=item1e61153a9c Works fine with my fles1500 and DDUtils with http://www.unifiedmicro.com/decoder.html -- Brian Duffell G3VGZ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Parallel Port for F3K
One thing I would like to comment on a Parallel Port on the newer computers. Some mother boards actually have a Parallel port on them but NO Cable / DB25 connector output to the case. I have 3 different computers that have this and I found some cables from cables to go that plug right into the MB and mounts to the computer case giving me a standard DB-25 Parallel Port. You can look in your Hardware and see if you see in the Device Manager (COM LPT) a Printer Port (LPT1) then chances are YOU HAVE a Parallel port already. Now you want to pop the case and look and see if you have Pin's in your motherboard where the LPT is located if you do then your ALL set, just order up a Cable from your Mother board manufacture or Possible Cables to Go Plug it in, Mount the DB25 in the back of the case and your done. Hope this helps some one out. 73's Bret WX7Y -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of William Evans Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 5:35 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] Parallel Port for F3K My computer does not have a parallel port which I need to get the band information out to antenna and amplifier switches. I need ABCD info to come out of the computer when I use my 3K. Has anyone had any luck with this device?: http://www.piexx.com/index.php?main_page=indexcPath=12 I could purchase a parallel port card, but the last one I got did not work, so I am asking before purchasing anything this time. W4ISH Bill ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Parallel Port for F3K
On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 8:00 PM, Bret Mills bmil...@ecso.com wrote: ...Some mother boards actually have a Parallel port on them but NO Cable / DB25 connector output to the case... = Bret makes a very good point. This is also true of IEEE ports. If you build your own computer, check your mobo for headers and/or your documentation for info. Note also that the mobo came with a driver disk; install them, don't take the windows defaults. Even though IEEE-A is obsolete in the sense that few or no new gadgets will be using it, many mother boards being made today have headers on board that can be brought out via a cable to a connector at the back; same with parallel ports. A key advantage of using the on-board ports is that if the proper drivers are installed, you can be sure they'll work! 73, Tony KT0NY ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Parallel Port for F3K
I haven't seen a motherboard in ages that didn't include headers for a serial port, parallel port, several USB ports and sometimes 1394. The problem is that none of them use the same header spacings for the ports, plus stick them so far away from where the slot strips are on the computer case that it would require 16 cables or more to access them. I have drawers of serial and parallel wiring adapters that will not work on any motherboard I use. You have to wonder why they went to all the trouble to engineer these ports and then make them unusable. 73 Neal On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 9:08 PM, Tony Estep estept...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 8:00 PM, Bret Mills bmil...@ecso.com wrote: ...Some mother boards actually have a Parallel port on them but NO Cable / DB25 connector output to the case... = Bret makes a very good point. This is also true of IEEE ports. If you build your own computer, check your mobo for headers and/or your documentation for info. Note also that the mobo came with a driver disk; install them, don't take the windows defaults. Even though IEEE-A is obsolete in the sense that few or no new gadgets will be using it, many mother boards being made today have headers on board that can be brought out via a cable to a connector at the back; same with parallel ports. A key advantage of using the on-board ports is that if the proper drivers are installed, you can be sure they'll work! 73, Tony KT0NY ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ -- Abroham Neal Software www.abrohamnealsoftware.com Work:(540) 645 5394 Mobile:(540) 645 8171 ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Parallel Port for F3K
I agree. Further, check where the headers go. I have a couple of boards that the header goes to chips that were not installed!! Jim - W4YXU -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-bounces@flex- radio.biz] On Behalf Of Neal Campbell Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 8:26 PM To: Tony Estep Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Parallel Port for F3K I haven't seen a motherboard in ages that didn't include headers for a serial port, parallel port, several USB ports and sometimes 1394. The problem is that none of them use the same header spacings for the ports, plus stick them so far away from where the slot strips are on the computer case that it would require 16 cables or more to access them. I have drawers of serial and parallel wiring adapters that will not work on any motherboard I use. You have to wonder why they went to all the trouble to engineer these ports and then make them unusable. 73 Neal On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 9:08 PM, Tony Estep estept...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 8:00 PM, Bret Mills bmil...@ecso.com wrote: ...Some mother boards actually have a Parallel port on them but NO Cable / DB25 connector output to the case... = Bret makes a very good point. This is also true of IEEE ports. If you build your own computer, check your mobo for headers and/or your documentation for info. Note also that the mobo came with a driver disk; install them, don't take the windows defaults. Even though IEEE-A is obsolete in the sense that few or no new gadgets will be using it, many mother boards being made today have headers on board that can be brought out via a cable to a connector at the back; same with parallel ports. A key advantage of using the on-board ports is that if the proper drivers are installed, you can be sure they'll work! 73, Tony KT0NY ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ -- Abroham Neal Software www.abrohamnealsoftware.com Work:(540) 645 5394 Mobile:(540) 645 8171 ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
[Flexradio] [FlexRadio] Parallel Port for F3K
Bill I don’t know anything about the device you listed but if you check the Flex.WiKi There is an area for known good parallel printer ports. You are correct not all of the newer printer ports will work especially if you are using Windows 7 – 64. Anyway I’m using a SIIG 2S1P Combo board. P/N JJ-P2-S5 with a F3K. However the device that you mention has what appears to be an advantage to me. I like the built in LED’s. Perhaps the best thing to do might be to contact the company. Considering some of there other product I’m sure they can tell you if it will work or not. Just make sure you tell them everything. What you want to do and what operating system etc Good Luck Don ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
