Re: [Flexradio] Program stopping

2009-04-22 Thread Dudley Hurry

Steve Jobs is no slouch either..$$..

73,
Dudley

WA5QPZ



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[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Alan NV8A
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 8:55 AM
To: FlexRadio Reflector
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Program stopping

And it makes more money for other software publishers too: your old computer quits, you 
buy a new one with the latest and greatest version of Windozzze, then find that your 
original version of your favorite app will not run, and you have to buy the 
"upgrade" -- which may even have had some of your favorite features removed.

Alan NV8A


On 04/21/09 09:35 pm I wrote:

  
And it makes more money for the manufacturers of the hardware: every 
"upgrade" of Micro$$$oft software requires more disk space, more 
memory and a faster CPU. It's an incestuous relationship.


Well, it makes Micro$oft a lot more money!
  


  

But there is twice as much OS code in Vista over XP..
  
You make my point for me. My point is that Vista does nothing 
substantive over and above XP yet has twice as much code. The basic 
job of the OS has not changed at all. It provides a run-time 
environment for programs. It still does the same task scheduling, 
memory management, I/O, etc. The job hasn't changed one iota. For 
our purposes it does nothing different. So what does all that extra 
code actually do? Make the screen look cooler when you aren't doing 
anything?


But then, XP didn't do anything more than Win2K did either.




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Re: [Flexradio] Program stopping

2009-04-22 Thread Tim Ellison
And this is how Mr. Bill became a billionaire.  Hurts, doesn't it? 



-Tim

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From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz 
[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Alan NV8A
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 8:55 AM
To: FlexRadio Reflector
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Program stopping

And it makes more money for other software publishers too: your old computer 
quits, you buy a new one with the latest and greatest version of Windozzze, 
then find that your original version of your favorite app will not run, and you 
have to buy the "upgrade" -- which may even have had some of your favorite 
features removed.

Alan NV8A


On 04/21/09 09:35 pm I wrote:

> And it makes more money for the manufacturers of the hardware: every 
> "upgrade" of Micro$$$oft software requires more disk space, more 
> memory and a faster CPU. It's an incestuous relationship.
>> Well, it makes Micro$oft a lot more money!

>
>>>> But there is twice as much OS code in Vista over XP..
>>>
>>> You make my point for me. My point is that Vista does nothing 
>>> substantive over and above XP yet has twice as much code. The basic 
>>> job of the OS has not changed at all. It provides a run-time 
>>> environment for programs. It still does the same task scheduling, 
>>> memory management, I/O, etc. The job hasn't changed one iota. For 
>>> our purposes it does nothing different. So what does all that extra 
>>> code actually do? Make the screen look cooler when you aren't doing 
>>> anything?
>>>
>>> But then, XP didn't do anything more than Win2K did either.


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Re: [Flexradio] Program stopping

2009-04-22 Thread Alan NV8A
And it makes more money for other software publishers too: your old 
computer quits, you buy a new one with the latest and greatest version 
of Windozzze, then find that your original version of your favorite app 
will not run, and you have to buy the "upgrade" -- which may even have 
had some of your favorite features removed.


Alan NV8A


On 04/21/09 09:35 pm I wrote:


And it makes more money for the manufacturers of the hardware: every
"upgrade" of Micro$$$oft software requires more disk space, more memory
and a faster CPU. It's an incestuous relationship.

Well, it makes Micro$oft a lot more money!





But there is twice as much OS code in Vista over XP..


You make my point for me. My point is that Vista does
nothing substantive over and above XP yet has twice as much
code. The basic job of the OS has not changed at all. It
provides a run-time environment for programs. It still does
the same task scheduling, memory management, I/O, etc. The
job hasn't changed one iota. For our purposes it does
nothing different. So what does all that extra code actually
do? Make the screen look cooler when you aren't doing
anything?

But then, XP didn't do anything more than Win2K did
either.



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Re: [Flexradio] Program stopping

2009-04-21 Thread Alan NV8A
And it makes more money for the manufacturers of the hardware: every 
"upgrade" of Micro$$$oft software requires more disk space, more memory 
and a faster CPU. It's an incestuous relationship.


Alan NV8A


On 04/21/09 04:05 pm Jim Jerzycke wrote:


Well, it makes Micro$oft a lot more money!



But there is twice as much OS code in Vista over XP..


You make my point for me. My point is that Vista does
nothing substantive over and above XP yet has twice as much
code. The basic job of the OS has not changed at all. It
provides a run-time environment for programs. It still does
the same task scheduling, memory management, I/O, etc. The
job hasn't changed one iota. For our purposes it does
nothing different. So what does all that extra code actually
do? Make the screen look cooler when you aren't doing
anything?

But then, XP didn't do anything more than Win2K did
either.



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Re: [Flexradio] Program stopping

2009-04-21 Thread Dale Sewell W4NBF
Affirmative to goodbye to MS!

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Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Program stopping

Yep, that's the whole idea.  No new functionality or improved stability
since Win 2000 as far as most users are concerned, but look at the
revenue stream.  Not a bad game if you can get away with it.  I'm using
XP now, but once the new architecture comes out, I'm on OS X with
everything and if I didn't have a Mac, then it would be Linux.  Goodbye
MS!

73
Wayne

On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 13:05 -0700, "Jim Jerzycke" 
wrote:
> 
> Well, it makes Micro$oft a lot more money!
> jim  KQ6EA
> 
> 
> 
> --- On Tue, 4/21/09, Brian Lloyd  wrote:
> 
> > From: Brian Lloyd 
> > Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Program stopping
> > To: "Dudley Hurry" 
> > Cc: FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz
> > Date: Tuesday, April 21, 2009, 12:42 PM
> > On Apr 21, 2009, at 12:12 PM, Dudley Hurry wrote:
> > 
> > > But there is twice as much OS code in Vista over XP..
> > 
> > You make my point for me. My point is that Vista does
> > nothing substantive over and above XP yet has twice as much
> > code. The basic job of the OS has not changed at all. It
> > provides a run-time environment for programs. It still does
> > the same task scheduling, memory management, I/O, etc. The
> > job hasn't changed one iota. For our purposes it does
> > nothing different. So what does all that extra code actually
> > do? Make the screen look cooler when you aren't doing
> > anything?
> > 
> > But then, XP didn't do anything more than Win2K did
> > either.
> > 
> > Mind boggling.
> > 
> > Brian Lloyd
> > Granite Bay Montessori School  9330 Sierra College
> > Bl
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Re: [Flexradio] Program stopping

2009-04-21 Thread k4elo
Yep, that's the whole idea.  No new functionality or improved stability
since Win 2000 as far as most users are concerned, but look at the
revenue stream.  Not a bad game if you can get away with it.  I'm using
XP now, but once the new architecture comes out, I'm on OS X with
everything and if I didn't have a Mac, then it would be Linux.  Goodbye
MS!

73
Wayne

On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 13:05 -0700, "Jim Jerzycke" 
wrote:
> 
> Well, it makes Micro$oft a lot more money!
> jim  KQ6EA
> 
> 
> 
> --- On Tue, 4/21/09, Brian Lloyd  wrote:
> 
> > From: Brian Lloyd 
> > Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Program stopping
> > To: "Dudley Hurry" 
> > Cc: FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz
> > Date: Tuesday, April 21, 2009, 12:42 PM
> > On Apr 21, 2009, at 12:12 PM, Dudley Hurry wrote:
> > 
> > > But there is twice as much OS code in Vista over XP..
> > 
> > You make my point for me. My point is that Vista does
> > nothing substantive over and above XP yet has twice as much
> > code. The basic job of the OS has not changed at all. It
> > provides a run-time environment for programs. It still does
> > the same task scheduling, memory management, I/O, etc. The
> > job hasn't changed one iota. For our purposes it does
> > nothing different. So what does all that extra code actually
> > do? Make the screen look cooler when you aren't doing
> > anything?
> > 
> > But then, XP didn't do anything more than Win2K did
> > either.
> > 
> > Mind boggling.
> > 
> > Brian Lloyd
> > Granite Bay Montessori School  9330 Sierra College
> > Bl
> > brian AT gbmontessori DOT com  Roseville, CA 95661
> > +1.916.367.2131 (voice)+1.791.912.8170
> > (fax)
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Re: [Flexradio] Program stopping

2009-04-21 Thread Jim Jerzycke

Well, it makes Micro$oft a lot more money!
jim  KQ6EA



--- On Tue, 4/21/09, Brian Lloyd  wrote:

> From: Brian Lloyd 
> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Program stopping
> To: "Dudley Hurry" 
> Cc: FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz
> Date: Tuesday, April 21, 2009, 12:42 PM
> On Apr 21, 2009, at 12:12 PM, Dudley Hurry wrote:
> 
> > But there is twice as much OS code in Vista over XP..
> 
> You make my point for me. My point is that Vista does
> nothing substantive over and above XP yet has twice as much
> code. The basic job of the OS has not changed at all. It
> provides a run-time environment for programs. It still does
> the same task scheduling, memory management, I/O, etc. The
> job hasn't changed one iota. For our purposes it does
> nothing different. So what does all that extra code actually
> do? Make the screen look cooler when you aren't doing
> anything?
> 
> But then, XP didn't do anything more than Win2K did
> either.
> 
> Mind boggling.
> 
> Brian Lloyd
> Granite Bay Montessori School  9330 Sierra College
> Bl
> brian AT gbmontessori DOT com  Roseville, CA 95661
> +1.916.367.2131 (voice)+1.791.912.8170
> (fax)
> 
> PGP key ID:  12095C52A32A1B6C
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Re: [Flexradio] Program stopping

2009-04-21 Thread Joe Roth

Since MS wants to stop supporting XP soon mainly due to Win7's arrival, has 
Flex been testing with any versions of Win 7? Like it or not, many will be 
using Win 7 soon enough. (I personally like Ubuntu). 
Joe 

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> Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 14:12:53 -0500
> From: jhu...@austin.rr.com
> To: brian-wb6...@lloyd.com
> CC: FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz
> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Program stopping
> 
> But there is twice as much OS code in Vista over XP..
> 
> 73,
> Dudley
> 
> WA5QPZ
>  
> 
> Brian Lloyd wrote:
> >
> > On Apr 21, 2009, at 11:37 AM, Dale Sewell W4NBF wrote:
> >
> >> Vista 64 needs 4 gig and Vista 32 needs 2 gig or it's going to be a 
> >> slow,
> >> frustrating go at just about anything.
> >
> > Do you realize just how insane that sounds? Vista is running the same 
> > programs but requires twice the memory? The memory footprint of the 
> > programs hasn't changed. Jeez.
> >
> >
> > 73 de Brian, WB6RQN/J79BPL


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Re: [Flexradio] Program stopping

2009-04-21 Thread Brian Lloyd


On Apr 21, 2009, at 12:12 PM, Dudley Hurry wrote:


But there is twice as much OS code in Vista over XP..


You make my point for me. My point is that Vista does nothing  
substantive over and above XP yet has twice as much code. The basic  
job of the OS has not changed at all. It provides a run-time  
environment for programs. It still does the same task scheduling,  
memory management, I/O, etc. The job hasn't changed one iota. For our  
purposes it does nothing different. So what does all that extra code  
actually do? Make the screen look cooler when you aren't doing anything?


But then, XP didn't do anything more than Win2K did either.

Mind boggling.

Brian Lloyd
Granite Bay Montessori School  9330 Sierra College Bl
brian AT gbmontessori DOT com  Roseville, CA 95661
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Re: [Flexradio] Program stopping

2009-04-21 Thread Dudley Hurry

But there is twice as much OS code in Vista over XP..

73,
Dudley

WA5QPZ



Brian Lloyd wrote:


On Apr 21, 2009, at 11:37 AM, Dale Sewell W4NBF wrote:

Vista 64 needs 4 gig and Vista 32 needs 2 gig or it's going to be a 
slow,

frustrating go at just about anything.


Do you realize just how insane that sounds? Vista is running the same 
programs but requires twice the memory? The memory footprint of the 
programs hasn't changed. Jeez.



73 de Brian, WB6RQN/J79BPL



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Re: [Flexradio] Program stopping

2009-04-21 Thread Brian Lloyd


On Apr 21, 2009, at 11:37 AM, Dale Sewell W4NBF wrote:

Vista 64 needs 4 gig and Vista 32 needs 2 gig or it's going to be a  
slow,

frustrating go at just about anything.


Do you realize just how insane that sounds? Vista is running the same  
programs but requires twice the memory? The memory footprint of the  
programs hasn't changed. Jeez.



73 de Brian, WB6RQN/J79BPL



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Re: [Flexradio] Program stopping

2009-04-21 Thread Dale Sewell W4NBF
Vista 64 needs 4 gig and Vista 32 needs 2 gig or it's going to be a slow,
frustrating go at just about anything.

73, Dale W4NBF

-Original Message-
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[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Carl Vangsness
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 1:20 PM
To: Tim Ellison; Ed Helms; Flex Radio
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Program stopping

Vista with only 1024 Mb of RAM? I only have 1024 Mb with XP and I wish I had
more. At a minimum, Vista needs double the amount needed for XP.

Carl WC0V

- Original Message - 
From: "Tim Ellison" 
To: "Ed Helms" ; "Flex Radio" 
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Program stopping


> Ed,
>
> Stop using e-mail :-P
>
> If you have a DPC latency checker going when you do this, I suspect you
will see a very long duration "spike".  This is what is responsible the
"freeze".
>
> In order to "try" and resolve DPC issues, update all of the drivers for
your hardware, including the motherboard chipset drivers.  Also check to see
if there is a BIOS update.  That has been known to fix DPCs on some
motherboards.
>
> Microsoft Outlook is NOTORIOUS for doing this.
>
>
> -Tim
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz
[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Ed Helms
> Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 12:56 PM
> To: flex radio
> Subject: [Flexradio] Program stopping
>
> When I bounce back and forth from my email program sometimes my SDR will
> stop and I will have to hit the stop and then start button to
> get the SDR going again. Any suggestions for this fix? I'm running AMD
> Athlon 3800+ Processor  64 x 2 dual core 1024 mb ram and Vista.NVidea 6150
> graphics.
> N4zvn>ED
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Re: [Flexradio] Program stopping

2009-04-21 Thread Carl Vangsness
Vista with only 1024 Mb of RAM? I only have 1024 Mb with XP and I wish I had
more. At a minimum, Vista needs double the amount needed for XP.

Carl WC0V

- Original Message - 
From: "Tim Ellison" 
To: "Ed Helms" ; "Flex Radio" 
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Program stopping


> Ed,
>
> Stop using e-mail :-P
>
> If you have a DPC latency checker going when you do this, I suspect you
will see a very long duration "spike".  This is what is responsible the
"freeze".
>
> In order to "try" and resolve DPC issues, update all of the drivers for
your hardware, including the motherboard chipset drivers.  Also check to see
if there is a BIOS update.  That has been known to fix DPCs on some
motherboards.
>
> Microsoft Outlook is NOTORIOUS for doing this.
>
>
> -Tim
>
>
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 12:56 PM
> To: flex radio
> Subject: [Flexradio] Program stopping
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> When I bounce back and forth from my email program sometimes my SDR will
> stop and I will have to hit the stop and then start button to
> get the SDR going again. Any suggestions for this fix? I'm running AMD
> Athlon 3800+ Processor  64 x 2 dual core 1024 mb ram and Vista.NVidea 6150
> graphics.
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Re: [Flexradio] Program stopping

2009-04-21 Thread Tim Ellison
Ed,

Stop using e-mail :-P

If you have a DPC latency checker going when you do this, I suspect you will 
see a very long duration "spike".  This is what is responsible the "freeze".

In order to "try" and resolve DPC issues, update all of the drivers for your 
hardware, including the motherboard chipset drivers.  Also check to see if 
there is a BIOS update.  That has been known to fix DPCs on some motherboards.

Microsoft Outlook is NOTORIOUS for doing this.


-Tim


-Original Message-
From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz 
[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Ed Helms
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 12:56 PM
To: flex radio
Subject: [Flexradio] Program stopping

When I bounce back and forth from my email program sometimes my SDR will
stop and I will have to hit the stop and then start button to
get the SDR going again. Any suggestions for this fix? I'm running AMD
Athlon 3800+ Processor  64 x 2 dual core 1024 mb ram and Vista.NVidea 6150
graphics.
N4zvn>ED
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[Flexradio] Program stopping

2009-04-21 Thread Ed Helms
When I bounce back and forth from my email program sometimes my SDR will
stop and I will have to hit the stop and then start button to
get the SDR going again. Any suggestions for this fix? I'm running AMD
Athlon 3800+ Processor  64 x 2 dual core 1024 mb ram and Vista.NVidea 6150
graphics.
N4zvn>ED
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