Re: [Flexradio] Why a 6Meter Preamp Is Needed

2009-06-27 Thread Dennis Petrich

Thanks for the input Larry, that puts it into perspective; which helps

Dennis, k0eoo


- Original Message - 
From: "Larry Savage" 

To: "Flex List" 
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 10:50 AM
Subject: [Flexradio] Why a 6Meter Preamp Is Needed




   The Flex 5000A currently has a noise figure of approx. 16 to 20dB at an 
MDS of approx. -126dBm..Addition of a low noise figure preamp (<$100) 
can substantially improve the receiver noise figure but is not mandatory 
for normal operation. My reference rig is the Icom Pro III which has a 
6 meter MDS of approx. -142dBm with a noise figure of approx. 5 to 
8dB...With an appropriate preamp the Flex can reach this level of 
performance with a better dynamic range to boot..Other brand rigs have 
the same problem as the Flex 5000A (ex K3 sells a 6M preamp) when it comes 
to sensitivity and noise figure.The preamp is only needed if you wish 
to do weak signal work..In general one should consider the total 
system noise figure of the stationOne of the best performance 
improvements can be had by reducing the feedline losses.Losses in the 
receiver front end directly reduce the receiver noise figure and feedline 
affects both TX and RX performance.There
 are many other metrics one should consider in rig performanceI own 
several of the top-end rigs and have found the Flex 5000A beats them hands 
down in overall receiver performanceThe receiver dynamic range 
(weakest to strongest signal) for the Flex is phenominal..The receiver 
noise reduction along with the filtering is additionally on par with > 
$10K rigs.
In the words of an old timer.spend all your money on the antenna and 
feedline if you have any money left over buy a rig..


73s WA4CAX...
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[Flexradio] Why a 6Meter Preamp Is Needed

2009-06-27 Thread Larry Savage

The Flex 5000A currently has a noise figure of approx. 16 to 20dB at an MDS 
of approx. -126dBm..Addition of a low noise figure preamp (<$100) can 
substantially improve the receiver noise figure but is not mandatory for normal 
operation. My reference rig is the Icom Pro III which has a 6 meter MDS of 
approx. -142dBm with a noise figure of approx. 5 to 8dB...With an 
appropriate preamp the Flex can reach this level of performance with a better 
dynamic range to boot..Other brand rigs have the same problem as the Flex 
5000A (ex K3 sells a 6M preamp) when it comes to sensitivity and noise 
figure.The preamp is only needed if you wish to do weak signal work..   
 In general one should consider the total system noise figure of the 
stationOne of the best performance improvements can be had by reducing the 
feedline losses.Losses in the receiver front end directly reduce the 
receiver noise figure and feedline affects both TX and RX performance.There 
are many other metrics one should consider in rig performanceI own several 
of the top-end rigs and have found the Flex 5000A beats them hands down in 
overall receiver performanceThe receiver dynamic range (weakest to 
strongest signal) for the Flex is phenominal..The receiver noise reduction 
along with the filtering is additionally on par with > $10K rigs.
In the words of an old timer.spend all your money on the antenna and 
feedline if you have any money left over buy a rig..

73s WA4CAX... 
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