Re: [Flexradio] Amplifier for 1500?

2013-06-24 Thread Tim McDonough N9PUZ
I believe that a kit has to have FCC certification. I have a Hard Rock 
50 that was offered as a group parts buy like the first version of 
that amplifier. I think once they started the certification process they 
stopped sale of the group buy option.


It's a very well done amplifier. Nice boards, laser etched panels, etc. 
I wish they'd get it into production.


Tim N9PUZ

On 6/21/2013 10:07 PM, Michael wrote:

The Hardrock 50 is a kit.  The SMD's have been pre soldered to the PCB
but it's still a kit.  I could be wrong but I don't believe there is any
requirement for FCC certification of a kit.  JIm Veatch is the designer
and has chosen to get certification anyway which is good but I don't
think it's illegal to sell the kit without it. I have the forerunner to
this amp which covers 80 through 10 meters. It does not have the
microprocessor control circuitry, nor did it come with an enclosure or
heatsink and I had to hand solder my SMD's.  It was sold as a PCB /
parts package in a group buy.  It works very well with my 1500. You
can also find info on the Hardrock 50 and it's predecessors on the ARRL
HBC yahoo group.
73,
Michael, W4HIJ
On 6/21/2013 10:11 PM, amfone wrote:

The Hardrock is not legal to sell or even list  for sale, as in take
orders but they are applying for FCC certification/acceptance and
that's good.

The only really good amps for the 1500 and FCC certified are made by
THP and it puts out as I recall about 50 watts and the new Ten Tec amp
that puts out about 100 and was recently reviewed in QST. Stay away of
course from the junk make by RM Italy  and the others, all illegal to
sell in the USA and not one good ham would consider using one, unless
you don't mind raising the noise floor.

73 Tim
WB8UHZ





  From: Ken Alexander k.alexan...@rogers.com
To: J. Ed Rington ed_ring...@yahoo.com; flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 7:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Amplifier for 1500?

Hi Jim,

You might consider the Hardrock 50.  It's an amplifier kit with many
modern features.  It's designed by a ham who has won the ARRL'shomebrew
competition several times.

http://www.hobbypcb.com/amateur-radio/amateur-radio/hardrock-50-hf-power-amp-kit.html


The page I referred you to says they are not yet available, pending FCC
certification.  However the website's HOME page says they are taking
orders.  I think it has also received favourable reviews on eHam.net

73,

Ken Alexander
VE3HLS


On 2013-06-21 5:18 PM, J. Ed Rington wrote:

I'm wanting to get an amplifier to boost my 1500's output to 100
watts or so.   I'm looking at the Ten-tec 418 and the newly announced
ElecraftKXPA100.
So my questions are:
1) Which should I get?   Are there others that I should consider?
2) How do I 'key' the 1500 and the amplifier to transmit together?
I'd like to press the PTT on the 1500's mike, and have the 1500 key
the amp.
3) If you have experience with the 1500 and the Ten-tec 418, how do
you connect them together to transmit?  And are you happy with them
together?
Thanks,
Jim




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Re: [Flexradio] Amplifier for 1500?

2013-06-24 Thread Michael
I didn't think kits had to be certified as long as they were being sold 
to licensed radio amateurs but I've researched further and the fact that 
it's an amp clouds the issue. Another hassle brought to us courtesy of 
our good buddies on the CB service. At any rate, I agree with you 
about wishing they would get it into production. I love my little  amp 
I've got now but I wish I had the microprocessor control and the other 
bells and whistles. Price wise the Hardrock 50 will blow anything close 
to it out of the water if they ever get certification.

73,
Michael, W4HIJ
On 6/24/2013 10:06 AM, Tim McDonough N9PUZ wrote:
I believe that a kit has to have FCC certification. I have a Hard Rock 
50 that was offered as a group parts buy like the first version of 
that amplifier. I think once they started the certification process 
they stopped sale of the group buy option.


It's a very well done amplifier. Nice boards, laser etched panels, 
etc. I wish they'd get it into production.


Tim N9PUZ

On 6/21/2013 10:07 PM, Michael wrote:

The Hardrock 50 is a kit.  The SMD's have been pre soldered to the PCB
but it's still a kit.  I could be wrong but I don't believe there is any
requirement for FCC certification of a kit.  JIm Veatch is the designer
and has chosen to get certification anyway which is good but I don't
think it's illegal to sell the kit without it. I have the forerunner to
this amp which covers 80 through 10 meters. It does not have the
microprocessor control circuitry, nor did it come with an enclosure or
heatsink and I had to hand solder my SMD's.  It was sold as a PCB /
parts package in a group buy.  It works very well with my 1500. You
can also find info on the Hardrock 50 and it's predecessors on the ARRL
HBC yahoo group.
73,
Michael, W4HIJ
On 6/21/2013 10:11 PM, amfone wrote:

The Hardrock is not legal to sell or even list  for sale, as in take
orders but they are applying for FCC certification/acceptance and
that's good.

The only really good amps for the 1500 and FCC certified are made by
THP and it puts out as I recall about 50 watts and the new Ten Tec amp
that puts out about 100 and was recently reviewed in QST. Stay away of
course from the junk make by RM Italy  and the others, all illegal to
sell in the USA and not one good ham would consider using one, unless
you don't mind raising the noise floor.

73 Tim
WB8UHZ





  From: Ken Alexander k.alexan...@rogers.com
To: J. Ed Rington ed_ring...@yahoo.com; flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 7:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Amplifier for 1500?

Hi Jim,

You might consider the Hardrock 50.  It's an amplifier kit with many
modern features.  It's designed by a ham who has won the ARRL'shomebrew
competition several times.

http://www.hobbypcb.com/amateur-radio/amateur-radio/hardrock-50-hf-power-amp-kit.html 




The page I referred you to says they are not yet available, pending FCC
certification.  However the website's HOME page says they are taking
orders.  I think it has also received favourable reviews on eHam.net

73,

Ken Alexander
VE3HLS


On 2013-06-21 5:18 PM, J. Ed Rington wrote:

I'm wanting to get an amplifier to boost my 1500's output to 100
watts or so.   I'm looking at the Ten-tec 418 and the newly announced
ElecraftKXPA100.
So my questions are:
1) Which should I get?   Are there others that I should consider?
2) How do I 'key' the 1500 and the amplifier to transmit together?
I'd like to press the PTT on the 1500's mike, and have the 1500 key
the amp.
3) If you have experience with the 1500 and the Ten-tec 418, how do
you connect them together to transmit?  And are you happy with them
together?
Thanks,
Jim







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Re: [Flexradio] Amplifier for 1500?

2013-06-24 Thread amfone
Kit amplifiers must be FCC certified as well. Just Google FCC enforcement 
actions against those selling illegal amplifiers and you will note that 
includes those in kit form as well. There is no grey area.

73 Tim
WB8UHZ





 From: Michael mat...@charter.net
To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz 
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Amplifier for 1500?
 

I didn't think kits had to be certified as long as they were being sold 
to licensed radio amateurs but I've researched further and the fact that 
it's an amp clouds the issue. Another hassle brought to us courtesy of 
our good buddies on the CB service. At any rate, I agree with you 
about wishing they would get it into production. I love my little  amp 
I've got now but I wish I had the microprocessor control and the other 
bells and whistles. Price wise the Hardrock 50 will blow anything close 
to it out of the water if they ever get certification.
73,
Michael, W4HIJ
On 6/24/2013 10:06 AM, Tim McDonough N9PUZ wrote:
 I believe that a kit has to have FCC certification. I have a Hard Rock 
 50 that was offered as a group parts buy like the first version of 
 that amplifier. I think once they started the certification process 
 they stopped sale of
 the group buy option.

 It's a very well done amplifier. Nice boards, laser etched panels, 
 etc. I wish they'd get it into production.

 Tim N9PUZ

 On 6/21/2013 10:07 PM, Michael wrote:
 The Hardrock 50 is a kit.  The SMD's have been pre soldered to the PCB
 but it's still a kit.  I could be wrong but I don't believe there is any
 requirement for FCC certification of a kit.  JIm Veatch is the designer
 and has chosen to get certification anyway which is good but I don't
 think it's illegal to sell the kit without it. I have the forerunner to
 this amp which covers 80 through 10 meters. It does not have the
 microprocessor control circuitry, nor did it come with an enclosure or
 heatsink and I had to hand solder my SMD's.  It was sold as a PCB /
 parts package in a group buy. 
 It works very well with my 1500. You
 can also find info on the Hardrock 50 and it's predecessors on the ARRL
 HBC yahoo group.
 73,
 Michael, W4HIJ
 On 6/21/2013 10:11 PM, amfone wrote:
 The Hardrock is not legal to sell or even list  for sale, as in take
 orders but they are applying for FCC certification/acceptance and
 that's good.

 The only really good amps for the 1500 and FCC certified are made by
 THP and it puts out as I recall about 50 watts and the new Ten Tec amp
 that puts out about 100 and was recently reviewed in QST. Stay away of
 course from the junk make by RM Italy  and the others, all illegal to
 sell in the USA and not one good ham would consider using one, unless
 you don't mind raising the noise
 floor.

 73 Tim
 WB8UHZ




 
   From: Ken Alexander k.alexan...@rogers.com
 To: J. Ed Rington ed_ring...@yahoo.com; flexradio@flex-radio.biz
 Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 7:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Amplifier for 1500?

 Hi Jim,

 You might consider the Hardrock 50.  It's an amplifier kit with many
 modern features.  It's designed by a ham who has won the ARRL'shomebrew

 competition several times.

 http://www.hobbypcb.com/amateur-radio/amateur-radio/hardrock-50-hf-power-amp-kit.html
  



 The page I referred you to says they are not yet available, pending FCC
 certification.  However the website's HOME page says they are taking
 orders.  I think it has also received favourable reviews on eHam.net

 73,

 Ken Alexander
 VE3HLS


 On 2013-06-21 5:18 PM, J. Ed Rington wrote:
 I'm wanting to get an amplifier to boost my 1500's output to 100
 watts or so.   I'm looking at the Ten-tec 418 and the newly
 announced
 ElecraftKXPA100.
 So my questions are:
 1) Which should I get?   Are there others that I should consider?
 2) How do I 'key' the 1500 and the amplifier to transmit together?
 I'd like to press the PTT on the 1500's mike, and have the 1500 key
 the amp.
 3) If you have experience with the 1500 and the Ten-tec 418, how do
 you connect them together to transmit?  And are you happy with them
 together?
 Thanks,
 Jim





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Re: [Flexradio] Amplifier for 1500

2013-06-22 Thread kd4esv
THP also makes the HL-100B dx...5/10w  select in  100w out 6m -80m...Had mine 
for a year and a half with no problems or complaints...Samuel





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To: FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz 
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 7:53 AM
Subject: [Flexradio] Amplifier for 1500
 

Jim:  If you would settle for 3db less power output, the THL 45B works
well in this application with the 1500.  Cost around $450 new at HRO. 
Array Solutions will build the keying cable, plug and play, if you elect
to farm that task out.  I used one as an IPA to drive a pair of 3-500Zs
on 6 meters with a 1500.5 watts input1000 + output with this
train.  The THL 45B is a sturdy little beast, as is all their gear!

Best,

Jim
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Re: [Flexradio] Amplifier for 1500?

2013-06-21 Thread Ken Alexander

Hi Jim,

You might consider the Hardrock 50.  It's an amplifier kit with many 
modern features.  It's designed by a ham who has won the ARRL's homebrew 
competition several times.


http://www.hobbypcb.com/amateur-radio/amateur-radio/hardrock-50-hf-power-amp-kit.html

The page I referred you to says they are not yet available, pending FCC 
certification.  However the website's HOME page says they are taking 
orders.  I think it has also received favourable reviews on eHam.net


73,

Ken Alexander
VE3HLS


On 2013-06-21 5:18 PM, J. Ed Rington wrote:

I'm wanting to get an amplifier to boost my 1500's output to 100 watts or so.   
I'm looking at the Ten-tec 418 and the newly announced Elecraft KXPA100.
  
So my questions are:
  
1) Which should I get?   Are there others that I should consider?
  
2) How do I 'key' the 1500 and the amplifier to transmit together?   I'd like to press the PTT on the 1500's mike, and have the 1500 key the amp.
  
3) If you have experience with the 1500 and the Ten-tec 418, how do you connect them together to transmit?  And are you happy with them together?
  
Thanks,

Jim
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Re: [Flexradio] Amplifier for 1500?

2013-06-21 Thread Larry
I just set up the 418 with my 1500 - simple two wire cable between the 418's 9 
pin din and the flex's DB9.  Key the mike and the amp keys too.  Amp auto band 
switches if you forget to set the band.

On Jun 21, 2013, at 16:11, Ken Alexander k.alexan...@rogers.com wrote:

 Hi Jim,
 
 You might consider the Hardrock 50.  It's an amplifier kit with many modern 
 features.  It's designed by a ham who has won the ARRL's homebrew competition 
 several times.
 
 http://www.hobbypcb.com/amateur-radio/amateur-radio/hardrock-50-hf-power-amp-kit.html
 
 The page I referred you to says they are not yet available, pending FCC 
 certification.  However the website's HOME page says they are taking orders.  
 I think it has also received favourable reviews on eHam.net
 
 73,
 
 Ken Alexander
 VE3HLS
 
 
 On 2013-06-21 5:18 PM, J. Ed Rington wrote:
 I'm wanting to get an amplifier to boost my 1500's output to 100 watts or 
 so.   I'm looking at the Ten-tec 418 and the newly announced Elecraft 
 KXPA100.
  So my questions are:
  1) Which should I get?   Are there others that I should consider?
  2) How do I 'key' the 1500 and the amplifier to transmit together?   I'd 
 like to press the PTT on the 1500's mike, and have the 1500 key the amp.
  3) If you have experience with the 1500 and the Ten-tec 418, how do you 
 connect them together to transmit?  And are you happy with them together?
  Thanks,
 Jim
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Re: [Flexradio] Amplifier for 1500?

2013-06-21 Thread amfone
The Hardrock is not legal to sell or even list  for sale, as in take orders but 
they are applying for FCC certification/acceptance and that's good.

The only really good amps for the 1500 and FCC certified are made by THP and it 
puts out as I recall about 50 watts and the new Ten Tec amp that puts out about 
100 and was recently reviewed in QST. Stay away of course from the junk make by 
RM Italy  and the others, all illegal to sell in the USA and not one good ham 
would consider using one, unless you don't mind raising the noise floor.

73 Tim
WB8UHZ





 From: Ken Alexander k.alexan...@rogers.com
To: J. Ed Rington ed_ring...@yahoo.com; flexradio@flex-radio.biz 
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 7:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Amplifier for 1500?
 

Hi Jim,

You might consider the Hardrock 50.  It's an amplifier kit with many 
modern features.  It's designed by a ham who has won the ARRL'shomebrew
competition several times.

http://www.hobbypcb.com/amateur-radio/amateur-radio/hardrock-50-hf-power-amp-kit.html

The page I referred you to says they are not yet available, pending FCC 
certification.  However the website's HOME page says they are taking 
orders.  I think it has also received favourable reviews on eHam.net

73,

Ken Alexander
VE3HLS


On 2013-06-21 5:18 PM, J. Ed Rington wrote:
 I'm wanting to get an amplifier to boost my 1500's output to 100 watts or so. 
   I'm looking at the Ten-tec 418 and the newly announced ElecraftKXPA100.
  
 So my questions are:
  
 1) Which should I get?   Are there others that I should consider?
  
 2) How do I 'key' the 1500 and the amplifier to transmit together?   I'd like 
 to press the PTT on the 1500's mike, and have the 1500 key the amp.
  
 3) If you have experience with the 1500 and the Ten-tec 418, how do you 
 connect them together to transmit?  And are you happy with them together?
  
 Thanks,
 Jim
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Re: [Flexradio] Amplifier for 1500?

2013-06-21 Thread amfone
The Ten Tec is the one I would purchase.

Tim
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To: Ken Alexander k.alexan...@rogers.com 
Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz flexradio@flex-radio.biz; J. Ed Rington 
ed_ring...@yahoo.com 
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Amplifier for 1500?
 

I just set up the 418 with my 1500 - simple two wire cable between the 418's 9 
pin din and the flex's DB9.  Key the mike and the amp keys too.  Amp auto band 
switches if you forget to set the band.

On Jun 21, 2013, at 16:11, Ken Alexander k.alexan...@rogers.com wrote:

 Hi Jim,
 
 You might consider the Hardrock 50.  It's an amplifier kit with many modern 
 features.  It's designed by a ham who has won the ARRL's homebrew competition 
 several times.
 
 http://www.hobbypcb.com/amateur-radio/amateur-radio/hardrock-50-hf-power-amp-kit.html
 
 The page I referred you to says they are not yet available, pending FCC 
 certification.  However the website's HOME page says they are taking orders.  
 I think it has also received favourable reviews on eHam.net
 
 73,
 
 Ken Alexander
 VE3HLS
 
 
 On 2013-06-21 5:18 PM, J. Ed Rington wrote:
 I'm wanting to get an amplifier to boost my 1500's output to 100 watts or 
 so.   I'm looking at the Ten-tec 418 and the newly announced Elecraft 
 KXPA100.
  So my questions are:
  1) Which should I get?   Are there others that I should consider?
  2) How do I 'key' the 1500 and the amplifier to transmit together?   I'd 
like to press the PTT on the 1500's mike, and have the 1500 key the amp.
  3) If you have experience with the 1500 and the Ten-tec 418, how do you 
connect them together to transmit?  And are you happy with them together?
  Thanks,
 Jim
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Re: [Flexradio] Amplifier for 1500?

2013-06-21 Thread Michael
The Hardrock 50 is a kit.  The SMD's have been pre soldered to the PCB 
but it's still a kit.  I could be wrong but I don't believe there is any 
requirement for FCC certification of a kit.  JIm Veatch is the designer 
and has chosen to get certification anyway which is good but I don't 
think it's illegal to sell the kit without it. I have the forerunner to 
this amp which covers 80 through 10 meters. It does not have the 
microprocessor control circuitry, nor did it come with an enclosure or 
heatsink and I had to hand solder my SMD's.  It was sold as a PCB / 
parts package in a group buy.  It works very well with my 1500. You 
can also find info on the Hardrock 50 and it's predecessors on the ARRL 
HBC yahoo group.

73,
Michael, W4HIJ
On 6/21/2013 10:11 PM, amfone wrote:

The Hardrock is not legal to sell or even list  for sale, as in take orders but 
they are applying for FCC certification/acceptance and that's good.

The only really good amps for the 1500 and FCC certified are made by THP and it 
puts out as I recall about 50 watts and the new Ten Tec amp that puts out about 
100 and was recently reviewed in QST. Stay away of course from the junk make by 
RM Italy  and the others, all illegal to sell in the USA and not one good ham 
would consider using one, unless you don't mind raising the noise floor.

73 Tim
WB8UHZ





  From: Ken Alexander k.alexan...@rogers.com
To: J. Ed Rington ed_ring...@yahoo.com; flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 7:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Amplifier for 1500?
  


Hi Jim,

You might consider the Hardrock 50.  It's an amplifier kit with many
modern features.  It's designed by a ham who has won the ARRL'shomebrew
competition several times.

http://www.hobbypcb.com/amateur-radio/amateur-radio/hardrock-50-hf-power-amp-kit.html

The page I referred you to says they are not yet available, pending FCC
certification.  However the website's HOME page says they are taking
orders.  I think it has also received favourable reviews on eHam.net

73,

Ken Alexander
VE3HLS


On 2013-06-21 5:18 PM, J. Ed Rington wrote:

I'm wanting to get an amplifier to boost my 1500's output to 100 watts or so.   
I'm looking at the Ten-tec 418 and the newly announced ElecraftKXPA100.
   
So my questions are:
   
1) Which should I get?   Are there others that I should consider?
   
2) How do I 'key' the 1500 and the amplifier to transmit together?   I'd like to press the PTT on the 1500's mike, and have the 1500 key the amp.
   
3) If you have experience with the 1500 and the Ten-tec 418, how do you connect them together to transmit?  And are you happy with them together?
   
Thanks,

Jim




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