Re: [Flexradio] Xmit rejection procedure Help

2007-07-08 Thread Neal Campbell K3NC
FYI the problem was solved (and it was operator error!). I had  
activated VAC (rather than just activating it for digital modes)  
since I also use it for cw decoding, etc. The transmit image  
rejection tone generation does not work with VAC enabled, which makes  
sense. So, now all is well!

Thanks to Duffy and Tim in assisting e!

Neal Campbell K3NC
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On Jul 7, 2007, at 9:35 PM, Dudley Hurry wrote:

 Neal,

 The ideal is to minimize the opposite side band..  You may have to  
 decrease the signal to the second receiver,  either dropping the  
 power from the 1K into the dummy load or use attenuation on the  
 second receiver.   You really don't want 40 over on the second  
 receiver,  s-9 to 10 over on the same sideband,  then null the  
 opposite sideband..   You might be saturating your receiver, and  
 just can't hear the null..

 73,
 Dudley
 WA5QPZ



 At 08:05 PM 7/7/2007, Neal Campbell K3NC wrote:
 I am definitely doing something wrong!

 I have been trying to do the xmit rejection calibration and not
 having much success. I click on the test tone transmit  button, click
 Mox (while in USB), set xmit drive to max into a dummy load and
 listen on the same freq. on another rig. If I tune down abt 3 Khz I
 can hear a tone (past the main tone) but nothing I do with the phase
 and gain sliders has any effect on it.

 I tried the procedure in the knowledge base where you set both the rx
 and sdr1k to the same freq in USB, the switch to LSB on the
 monitoring rx. I have an Orion2 and when switching from USB to LSB,
 it does not change frequency (it stays zero beat to the signal). I am
 assuming that this is normally a neat way to shift down freq so you
 can hear any image. Again I can tune downwards but nothing I do with
 the sliders changes any secondary tones.

 What am I doing wrong??

 Thanks
 Neal



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Re: [Flexradio] Xmit rejection procedure Help

2007-07-07 Thread Dudley Hurry
Neal,

The ideal is to minimize the opposite side band..  You may have to 
decrease the signal to the second receiver,  either dropping the 
power from the 1K into the dummy load or use attenuation on the 
second receiver.   You really don't want 40 over on the second 
receiver,  s-9 to 10 over on the same sideband,  then null the 
opposite sideband..   You might be saturating your receiver, and just 
can't hear the null..

73,
Dudley
WA5QPZ



At 08:05 PM 7/7/2007, Neal Campbell K3NC wrote:
I am definitely doing something wrong!

I have been trying to do the xmit rejection calibration and not
having much success. I click on the test tone transmit  button, click
Mox (while in USB), set xmit drive to max into a dummy load and
listen on the same freq. on another rig. If I tune down abt 3 Khz I
can hear a tone (past the main tone) but nothing I do with the phase
and gain sliders has any effect on it.

I tried the procedure in the knowledge base where you set both the rx
and sdr1k to the same freq in USB, the switch to LSB on the
monitoring rx. I have an Orion2 and when switching from USB to LSB,
it does not change frequency (it stays zero beat to the signal). I am
assuming that this is normally a neat way to shift down freq so you
can hear any image. Again I can tune downwards but nothing I do with
the sliders changes any secondary tones.

What am I doing wrong??

Thanks
Neal



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Re: [Flexradio] Xmit rejection procedure Help

2007-07-07 Thread Neal Campbell K3NC
Thanks, I just tried it at 20 watts and same result. I had also  
inserted the 18db attenuation feature of the Orion2 and never saw a  
difference.  Otherwise, the rig seems to behave normally. I was in  
the DL rtty contest and since I was using AFSK I wanted to make sure  
I was not blasting unwanted sidebands thru my Acom amp (hence why I  
just decided to do the calibration).

Neal Campbell K3NC
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telnet to our DX Spotting clusters at: dxc.k3nc.com, ports 12001 and 23

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On Jul 7, 2007, at 9:35 PM, Dudley Hurry wrote:

 Neal,

 The ideal is to minimize the opposite side band..  You may have to  
 decrease the signal to the second receiver,  either dropping the  
 power from the 1K into the dummy load or use attenuation on the  
 second receiver.   You really don't want 40 over on the second  
 receiver,  s-9 to 10 over on the same sideband,  then null the  
 opposite sideband..   You might be saturating your receiver, and  
 just can't hear the null..

 73,
 Dudley
 WA5QPZ



 At 08:05 PM 7/7/2007, Neal Campbell K3NC wrote:
 I am definitely doing something wrong!

 I have been trying to do the xmit rejection calibration and not
 having much success. I click on the test tone transmit  button, click
 Mox (while in USB), set xmit drive to max into a dummy load and
 listen on the same freq. on another rig. If I tune down abt 3 Khz I
 can hear a tone (past the main tone) but nothing I do with the phase
 and gain sliders has any effect on it.

 I tried the procedure in the knowledge base where you set both the rx
 and sdr1k to the same freq in USB, the switch to LSB on the
 monitoring rx. I have an Orion2 and when switching from USB to LSB,
 it does not change frequency (it stays zero beat to the signal). I am
 assuming that this is normally a neat way to shift down freq so you
 can hear any image. Again I can tune downwards but nothing I do with
 the sliders changes any secondary tones.

 What am I doing wrong??

 Thanks
 Neal



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Re: [Flexradio] Xmit rejection procedure Help

2007-07-07 Thread Neal Campbell K3NC
In investigating further...

I do not seem to be getting any tone out when I click the enable  
test tone box in the image reject dialog. No output wattage is ever  
shown. Is this normal?  If not, any idea what could be the problem? I  
can start the two tone test from the test tab and it outputs fine.

Neal Campbell K3NC
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On Jul 7, 2007, at 9:35 PM, Dudley Hurry wrote:

 Neal,

 The ideal is to minimize the opposite side band..  You may have to  
 decrease the signal to the second receiver,  either dropping the  
 power from the 1K into the dummy load or use attenuation on the  
 second receiver.   You really don't want 40 over on the second  
 receiver,  s-9 to 10 over on the same sideband,  then null the  
 opposite sideband..   You might be saturating your receiver, and  
 just can't hear the null..

 73,
 Dudley
 WA5QPZ



 At 08:05 PM 7/7/2007, Neal Campbell K3NC wrote:
 I am definitely doing something wrong!

 I have been trying to do the xmit rejection calibration and not
 having much success. I click on the test tone transmit  button, click
 Mox (while in USB), set xmit drive to max into a dummy load and
 listen on the same freq. on another rig. If I tune down abt 3 Khz I
 can hear a tone (past the main tone) but nothing I do with the phase
 and gain sliders has any effect on it.

 I tried the procedure in the knowledge base where you set both the rx
 and sdr1k to the same freq in USB, the switch to LSB on the
 monitoring rx. I have an Orion2 and when switching from USB to LSB,
 it does not change frequency (it stays zero beat to the signal). I am
 assuming that this is normally a neat way to shift down freq so you
 can hear any image. Again I can tune downwards but nothing I do with
 the sliders changes any secondary tones.

 What am I doing wrong??

 Thanks
 Neal



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