Re: [Flexwiki-users] [PMX: #] Re: [PMX: #] Re: FlexWiki Site

2010-02-03 Thread John Davidson
I am able to hold the content that I have legally on the website I have.

It is not possible to create a fork of the FlexWiki software and run a
separate development and build server. The Micrososft License that is used
for FlexWiki is not a copyleft license. Microsoft has each committer assign
their copyrights in the code they create to Microsoft (this is common in the
Open Source world). There is also at least one patent on the FlexWiki
software that I am aware of, that is central to the storage engine. For
development to continue without Microsoft would mean that they would have to
revise the license. For development to continue with Microsoft they need to
revive the site, including the build server.

I have not heard from David in more than 6 months now.

John Davidison

On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 3:26 AM, Lionel Cuir lionel_em...@aulofee.comwrote:

 A little misunderstanding - I was not speaking of reusing the flexwiki.com
 domain name, but to create a new site with flexwiki.com content. Is the
 result the same, ie do we need MS approval for that? I'm thinking while
 writing, but I'm afraid the answer is yes (I'm not a lawyer...).

 Lionel

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 De : John Davidson [mailto:jwdavid...@gmail.com]
 Envoyé : mardi 2 février 2010 18:26
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 Objet : Re: [Flexwiki-users] [PMX: #] Re: [PMX: #] Re: FlexWiki Site

 Microsoft owns the copyrights and the domain. For that reason it is not
 possible to create a new site using FlexWiki.com

 Screwturn wiki has just complete a major upgrade to their codebase which
 unprimed the capability to add new features. I have not done full
 comparision but the main difference is the lack of WikiTalk functionality.
 It may be possible to include the most important features using LINQ, which
 would allow keyword selection.

 It would be good if David would let us know microsft's intentions

 John Davidson

 Sent from my iPhone

 On 2010-02-02, at 11:36, Lionel Cuir lionel_em...@aulofee.com wrote:

  Well, that would not be a problem to open up a site with the old
  content.
  But can we, legally speaking - we may need to get John agreement.
  John, if
  you read us...
 
  Adam, screwtape is missing a nice feature - autolinking between pages
  (ie, no need to explicitely declare a word as being a link to another
  wiki page).
  But stop me if I'm wrong.
 
 
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  De : Adam Brazier [mailto:abraz...@astro.cornell.edu]
  Envoyé : mardi 2 février 2010 16:33
  À : FlexWiki Users Mailing List
  Objet : [Flexwiki-users] [PMX: #] Re: [PMX: #] Re: FlexWiki Site
 
  Ah, yes, I have used that mirror occasionally.
 
  I guess that my concern would be whether or not the project is just
  dead and I should use screwtape wiki next time. The actual website
  being down for months is pretty indicative...
 
  Cheers
 
  Adam
 
  Joe Gasper wrote:
  A good portion of the old site can be found here:
 
  http://ods.dyndns.org/FlexWiki/default.aspx/OdsWiki/HomePage.html
  (thanks John :-)
 
  -Joe
 
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  To: FlexWiki Users Mailing List
  flexwiki-users@lists.sourceforge.net
  Cc: David Ornstein david...@microsoft.com
  Subject: [Flexwiki-users] [PMX: #] Re:  FlexWiki Site
 
 
  I believe that I've emailed him before and not received an answer.
  It's been a long time now that the site's been down, unfortunately.
 
  Cheers
 
  Adam Brazier
 
  John Davidson wrote:
 
  I guess you need to ask David Ornstein at Microsoft as they provide
  the site infrastructure.
 
  John Davidson
 
  On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Helen Ersando hpersa...@gmail.com
  mailto:hpersa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 When will the flexwiki http://www.flexwiki.com/site be
  available?
 
 Thanks,
 Helen
 
 
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Re: [Flexwiki-users] [PMX: #] Re: [PMX: #] Re: FlexWiki Site

2010-02-02 Thread John Davidson
Microsoft owns the copyrights and the domain. For that reason it is  
not possible to create a new site using FlexWiki.com

Screwturn wiki has just complete a major upgrade to their codebase  
which unprimed the capability to add new features. I have not done  
full comparision but the main difference is the lack of WikiTalk  
functionality. It may be possible to include the most important  
features using LINQ, which would allow keyword selection.

It would be good if David would let us know microsft's intentions

John Davidson

Sent from my iPhone

On 2010-02-02, at 11:36, Lionel Cuir lionel_em...@aulofee.com wrote:

 Well, that would not be a problem to open up a site with the old  
 content.
 But can we, legally speaking - we may need to get John agreement.  
 John, if
 you read us...

 Adam, screwtape is missing a nice feature - autolinking between  
 pages (ie,
 no need to explicitely declare a word as being a link to another  
 wiki page).
 But stop me if I'm wrong.


 -Message d'origine-
 De : Adam Brazier [mailto:abraz...@astro.cornell.edu]
 Envoyé : mardi 2 février 2010 16:33
 À : FlexWiki Users Mailing List
 Objet : [Flexwiki-users] [PMX: #] Re: [PMX: #] Re: FlexWiki Site

 Ah, yes, I have used that mirror occasionally.

 I guess that my concern would be whether or not the project is just  
 dead and
 I should use screwtape wiki next time. The actual website being down  
 for
 months is pretty indicative...

 Cheers

 Adam

 Joe Gasper wrote:
 A good portion of the old site can be found here:

 http://ods.dyndns.org/FlexWiki/default.aspx/OdsWiki/HomePage.html
 (thanks John :-)

 -Joe

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 From: Adam Brazier abraz...@astro.cornell.edu
 Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 7:49 AM
 To: FlexWiki Users Mailing List
 flexwiki-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Cc: David Ornstein david...@microsoft.com
 Subject: [Flexwiki-users] [PMX: #] Re:  FlexWiki Site


 I believe that I've emailed him before and not received an answer.
 It's been a long time now that the site's been down, unfortunately.

 Cheers

 Adam Brazier

 John Davidson wrote:

 I guess you need to ask David Ornstein at Microsoft as they provide
 the site infrastructure.

 John Davidson

 On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Helen Ersando hpersa...@gmail.com
 mailto:hpersa...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,

When will the flexwiki http://www.flexwiki.com/site be  
 available?

Thanks,
Helen


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