RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Problems compiling plib

2004-01-17 Thread Norman Vine
Curtis L. Olson writes:
> Christopher S Horler wrote:
> > I don't use many cvs commands, but one I use a fair bit is log.  However
> > I've never figured out how to make it only display the last e.g. 5 log
> > entries or from a certain date... if it doesn't do it it should...
> 
> I don't know if there is a command to display the last 5 log entries, 
> although you could probably do this for an individual file pretty easily 
> via the cvs web interface.
> 
> In general, I have had good luck with something like the following:
> 
>  cvs log -d">10/15/2003   (that's MM/DD/)

That works well :-)

Another alternative is
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=7201

Cheers

Norman

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[Flightgear-devel] Re: Problems compiling plib

2004-01-17 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Christopher S Horler -- Saturday 17 January 2004 15:16:
> I've never figured out how to make it only display the last e.g. 5 log
> entries 

That's AFAIK not possible, but you can look at CVS/Entries for the last
version and then do something like:

  $ cvs log -r1.4: foo.cpp   # i.e. logs for revision 1.4 and later

of course piping through "head" would also work.  :-)


> or from a certain date... if it doesn't do it it should... 

  $ cvs log -d'2 weeks ago'\< foo.cxx

m.

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RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Problems compiling plib

2004-01-17 Thread Norman Vine
Christopher S Horler writes:
> 
> > In the last few weeks only outsiders improved plib, while official
> > developers mostly played dead.   :-P
>
> That's what happens when you don't pay... and when you pay sometimes.

Wait a minute   in all fairness

If you go back and review the history of the 'patch'

http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=3402857&forum_id=4479
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=3662943&forum_id=4479

It really wasn't clear, to this PLib developer at least,  that this was *ready* 
for HEAD, and since PLib supports *many* more projects then FlightGear ...
and this was a 'core' change 

And, I am sure Andy will agree,  this is *tricky* code to get right :-)

Cheers

Norman


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Problems compiling plib

2004-01-17 Thread Christopher S Horler
> I don't know if there is a command to display the last 5 log entries, 
> although you could probably do this for an individual file pretty easily 
> via the cvs web interface.
> 
> In general, I have had good luck with something like the following:
> 
>  cvs log -d">10/15/2003   (that's MM/DD/)
Thanks,.. and by chance cvsweb is my favourite way of working out whether a
a recompile is worth going through.



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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Problems compiling plib

2004-01-17 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Christopher S Horler wrote:
I don't use many cvs commands, but one I use a fair bit is log.  However
I've never figured out how to make it only display the last e.g. 5 log
entries or from a certain date... if it doesn't do it it should...
I don't know if there is a command to display the last 5 log entries, 
although you could probably do this for an individual file pretty easily 
via the cvs web interface.

In general, I have had good luck with something like the following:

cvs log -d">10/15/2003   (that's MM/DD/)

Regards,

Curt.
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RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Problems compiling plib

2004-01-17 Thread Norman Vine
Melchior FRANZ writes:
> 
> But what does it take to be considered a plib developer?

Requesting on the PLib list to become one is a good start :-)

http://sourceforge.net/project/memberlist.php?group_id=382

Cheers

Norman

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Problems compiling plib

2004-01-17 Thread Christopher S Horler
see below

> Nor do I. But what does it take to be considered a plib developer?
> Being officially acknowledged? Fixing bugs and submitting patches?
> In the last few weeks only outsiders improved plib, while official
> developers mostly played dead.   :-P
That's what happens when you don't pay... and when you pay sometimes.


> Yes. But diff isn't the only useful cvs command for us script kiddies.
> I'm regularly using log, ann, and things like cvs up -D'1 week ago',
> cvs diff -r1.23 -r1.24 etc. And this is quite hard to do without cvs
> access. No, I don't claim that I do it daily, not even once every
> month. But once in a while.
I don't use many cvs commands, but one I use a fair bit is log.  However
I've never figured out how to make it only display the last e.g. 5 log
entries or from a certain date... if it doesn't do it it should...

...going to read docs. 

Chris.


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[Flightgear-devel] Re: Problems compiling plib

2004-01-17 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Norman Vine -- Saturday 17 January 2004 14:08:
> > > http://plib.sourceforge.net/dist/current.tgz

> But If you are not a PLib developer,  
> I really don't see why having the CVS infrastructure matters :-)

Nor do I. But what does it take to be considered a plib developer?
Being officially acknowledged? Fixing bugs and submitting patches?
In the last few weeks only outsiders improved plib, while official
developers mostly played dead.   :-P



> Note that a 'diff' against these files and a locally modified version
> of these files should produce *exactly* the same patch file as a
> 'cvs diff' command would against the pserver files

Yes. But diff isn't the only useful cvs command for us script kiddies.
I'm regularly using log, ann, and things like cvs up -D'1 week ago',
cvs diff -r1.23 -r1.24 etc. And this is quite hard to do without cvs
access. No, I don't claim that I do it daily, not even once every
month. But once in a while.

m.

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RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Problems compiling plib

2004-01-17 Thread Norman Vine
Melchior FRANZ writes:
> * Norman Vine -- Saturday 17 January 2004 13:06:
> 
> > If you want the latest PLib just grab the nightly tarball
> > http://plib.sourceforge.net/dist/current.tgz
> 
> Does it contain the CVS infrastructure? Then it is certainly an
> option. Otherwise not.

Currently it doesn't contain the CVS infrastructure.
I guess I could change the script so that it does.  

However 

This would be the 'developers' pserver and not the 'users'
so,  it really wouldn't help that much.

But If you are not a PLib developer,  
I really don't see why having the CVS infrastructure matters :-)

So I and SourceForge reccomend that for those who need/want the 
*current* PLib source files, the best place to get them is at the link above.

Note that a 'diff' against these files and a locally modified version
of these files should produce *exactly* the same patch file as a
'cvs diff' command would against the pserver files

Cheers

Norman


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[Flightgear-devel] Re: Problems compiling plib

2004-01-17 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Melchior FRANZ -- Saturday 17 January 2004 12:16:
> The server is working, but it seems to suffer from overload and rejects
> every other connection. 

And BTW: the server isn't really overloaded---it reacts very quickly. It
rather limits the number of allowed connections. Asking for a connection
and being rejected doesn't put a noticeable load on it and you may try
again shortly thereafter.  :-P

m.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Problems compiling plib

2004-01-17 Thread Erik Hofman
Lee Elliott wrote:
On Saturday 17 January 2004 11:16, Melchior FRANZ wrote:

* Lee Elliott -- Saturday 17 January 2004 12:09:

The error I was getting was during compilation of the optimizer and it
failed on a call to ssgVertSplitter, complaining that it knew nothing
about it.
The compiler couldn't find it although it was there?


Yeah - that was the strangest thing about it.  That module just wasn't being 
compiled so there was no '.o' object file, even though the sources were there 
and there were entries in the Makefiles.
I think the files are conflicting with the CVS version (mine did). Try 
to remove the files and check out CVS again.

Erik

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[Flightgear-devel] Re: Problems compiling plib

2004-01-17 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Norman Vine -- Saturday 17 January 2004 13:06:
> A server is overloaded
> Launch a mini DOS attack and it will respond !

OK, I admit that sleep 1 is too aggressive, but I wouldn't feel too
bad about one minute ...



> Please folks don't do this,  SourceForge is a 'free' service
> and is trying hard to provide needed functionality to the Open
> Source world.  Treat them nicely :-)

Agreed, sorry.


 
> SourceForge's CVS is primarily for 'developers' not for 
> general file dissemination

We are developers. Just not registered plib developers. You know
that I have submitted a couple of patches to plib already. And it's
not the developers' server that we are talking about, but an
anonymous server that is synced once in a while, once in the last
week lastly. So we are probably not stealing developers' ressources.



> If you want the latest PLib just grab the nightly tarball
> http://plib.sourceforge.net/dist/current.tgz

Does it contain the CVS infrastructure? Then it is certainly an
option. Otherwise not.

I'll fix my script.  :-)

m.

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RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Problems compiling plib

2004-01-17 Thread Norman Vine
Melchior FRANZ writes:
> 
> The server is working, but it seems to suffer from overload and rejects
> every other connection. Just do this:
> 
>   $ while true; do cvs up && exit; sleep 1; done
> 
> And then wait a minute.  :-)

I just love this logic

A server is overloaded
Launch a mini DOS attack and it will respond !

#!~ scriptz rulez

Please folks don't do this,  SourceForge is a 'free' service
and is trying hard to provide needed functionality to the Open
Source world.  Treat them nicely :-)

SourceForge's CVS is primarily for 'developers' not for 
general file dissemination

If you want the latest PLib just grab the nightly tarball
http://plib.sourceforge.net/dist/current.tgz

Note This is on a 'fatter' pipe then the 'non'developer CVS

Norman

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Problems compiling plib

2004-01-17 Thread Lee Elliott
On Saturday 17 January 2004 11:16, Melchior FRANZ wrote:
> * Lee Elliott -- Saturday 17 January 2004 12:09:
> > The error I was getting was during compilation of the optimizer and it
> > failed on a call to ssgVertSplitter, complaining that it knew nothing
> > about it.
>
> The compiler couldn't find it although it was there?

Yeah - that was the strangest thing about it.  That module just wasn't being 
compiled so there was no '.o' object file, even though the sources were there 
and there were entries in the Makefiles.

>
> > I'll check out a completely new copy of plib, when it's talking again,
> > and see what happens.
>
> The server is working, but it seems to suffer from overload and rejects
> every other connection. Just do this:
>
>   $ while true; do cvs up && exit; sleep 1; done
>
> And then wait a minute.  :-)
>
> m.

I might have to give it a go later.  I'll see what happens once I've checked 
out a completely new copy.

It seems pretty clear that it's a problem just at my end though, as no-one 
else is having the same trouble, and that was the main thing to establish.

Thanks for your help,

LeeE


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[Flightgear-devel] Re: Problems compiling plib

2004-01-17 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Lee Elliott -- Saturday 17 January 2004 12:09:
> The error I was getting was during compilation of the optimizer and it failed 
> on a call to ssgVertSplitter, complaining that it knew nothing about it.

The compiler couldn't find it although it was there?



> I'll check out a completely new copy of plib, when it's talking again, and see 
> what happens.

The server is working, but it seems to suffer from overload and rejects
every other connection. Just do this:

  $ while true; do cvs up && exit; sleep 1; done

And then wait a minute.  :-)

m.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Problems compiling plib

2004-01-17 Thread Lee Elliott
On Saturday 17 January 2004 10:39, Melchior FRANZ wrote:
> * Lee Elliott -- Saturday 17 January 2004 11:10:
> > To cut a long story short, I wasn't able to get the latest cvs copy of
> > plib (including PCX support) to compile,
>
> The ssgVertSplitter.{cxx,h} files took about a week to finally appear
> on the anonymous cvs server. plib compiles here without problems.
>
> > Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
>
> Yes. You let us guess. What about posting the error messages?  :-}
>
> m.

I can't get a fresh copy of plib out atm - their server doesn't seem to want 
to talk.

The error I was getting was during compilation of the optimizer and it failed 
on a call to ssgVertSplitter, complaining that it knew nothing about it.

The ssgVertSplitter code (.cxx & .h) files were in the ssg dir and there were 
entries for them in the Makefile.am but they just didn't seem to be getting 
compiled.  I tried a make clean but it made no difference, and I couldn't see 
why I couldn't get it to work, especially as I was able to add the PCX update 
to the older version, which FG was then happy with..

I'll check out a completely new copy of plib, when it's talking again, and see 
what happens.

LeeE


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[Flightgear-devel] Re: Problems compiling plib

2004-01-17 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Lee Elliott -- Saturday 17 January 2004 11:10:
> To cut a long story short, I wasn't able to get the latest cvs copy of plib 
> (including PCX support) to compile, 

The ssgVertSplitter.{cxx,h} files took about a week to finally appear
on the anonymous cvs server. plib compiles here without problems. 



> Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?

Yes. You let us guess. What about posting the error messages?  :-}

m.

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