Re: [Flightgear-devel] weird reset
Christopher S Horler writes: > The other thing I noticed when I misuse the C172 is that after > performing a snap roll the artificial horizon is all up the creek - I > guess this is realistic though? Yep, at least for older AI's -- it will re-erect itself in a little while, if you're patient. In fact, unusual attitudes like that can cause other problems as well. I was practicing a hold inside a well-developed cumulus cloud on Thursday, and just as I was turning outbound for the parallel entry, I hit some nasty stuff (not that the whole thing wasn't a roller-coaster ride) and snapped into a 45+-degree bank before I could get it back. I had reset my heading indicator just before entering the hold, but then I had all kinds of trouble intersecting tracks. It took me a while to figure out that that one jolt had caused my HI to precess 30 degrees instantly (!!). All the best, David -- David Megginson, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.megginson.com/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] weird reset
On top of all that I also found it all quite amusing when switching to the outside view - can anyone land like that - I can't seem to fly that close to the ground upside down:-) The other thing I noticed when I misuse the C172 is that after performing a snap roll the artificial horizon is all up the creek - I guess this is realistic though? On Sat, 2003-07-19 at 23:09, Tony Peden wrote: > On Sat, 2003-07-19 at 14:12, Tony Peden wrote: > > On Sat, 2003-07-19 at 14:04, Curtis L. Olson wrote: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > Am Samstag, 19. Juli 2003 22:21 schrieb Christopher S Horler: > > > > > This sometimes happens when I reset - I can't reproduce it everytime, > > > > > I'm looking into things that may make it happen - it seems almost like > > > > > some values are being initialized incorrectly i.e. the plane starts the > > > > > right way up then goes through a 180 degree half loop. > > > > > > > > > > http://www.zen11419.zen.co.uk/snapshot10.png > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree. > > > > I have the same problem. > > > > > > This is something that I've noticed recently too. It appears to only > > > be a problem with JSBSim aircraft, and at least for me happens on 100% > > > of the resets or on-the-ground repositions. Something in the JSBSim > > > ground trim code seems to have changed > > > > I did make some changes, but they don't appear to be the problem. It's > > wanting to do an in-air trim following the reset even though it's on the > > ground. > > /sim/presets/onground is false. I'm not sure why. > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Curt. ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] weird reset
On Sat, 2003-07-19 at 14:12, Tony Peden wrote: > On Sat, 2003-07-19 at 14:04, Curtis L. Olson wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > Am Samstag, 19. Juli 2003 22:21 schrieb Christopher S Horler: > > > > This sometimes happens when I reset - I can't reproduce it everytime, > > > > I'm looking into things that may make it happen - it seems almost like > > > > some values are being initialized incorrectly i.e. the plane starts the > > > > right way up then goes through a 180 degree half loop. > > > > > > > > http://www.zen11419.zen.co.uk/snapshot10.png > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree. > > > I have the same problem. > > > > This is something that I've noticed recently too. It appears to only > > be a problem with JSBSim aircraft, and at least for me happens on 100% > > of the resets or on-the-ground repositions. Something in the JSBSim > > ground trim code seems to have changed > > I did make some changes, but they don't appear to be the problem. It's > wanting to do an in-air trim following the reset even though it's on the > ground. /sim/presets/onground is false. I'm not sure why. > > > > Regards, > > > > Curt. -- Tony Peden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] weird reset
On Sat, 2003-07-19 at 14:04, Curtis L. Olson wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Am Samstag, 19. Juli 2003 22:21 schrieb Christopher S Horler: > > > This sometimes happens when I reset - I can't reproduce it everytime, > > > I'm looking into things that may make it happen - it seems almost like > > > some values are being initialized incorrectly i.e. the plane starts the > > > right way up then goes through a 180 degree half loop. > > > > > > http://www.zen11419.zen.co.uk/snapshot10.png > > > > > > > > > > I agree. > > I have the same problem. > > This is something that I've noticed recently too. It appears to only > be a problem with JSBSim aircraft, and at least for me happens on 100% > of the resets or on-the-ground repositions. Something in the JSBSim > ground trim code seems to have changed I did make some changes, but they don't appear to be the problem. It's wanting to do an in-air trim following the reset even though it's on the ground. > > Regards, > > Curt. -- Tony Peden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] weird reset
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Am Samstag, 19. Juli 2003 22:21 schrieb Christopher S Horler: > > This sometimes happens when I reset - I can't reproduce it everytime, > > I'm looking into things that may make it happen - it seems almost like > > some values are being initialized incorrectly i.e. the plane starts the > > right way up then goes through a 180 degree half loop. > > > > http://www.zen11419.zen.co.uk/snapshot10.png > > > > > > I agree. > I have the same problem. This is something that I've noticed recently too. It appears to only be a problem with JSBSim aircraft, and at least for me happens on 100% of the resets or on-the-ground repositions. Something in the JSBSim ground trim code seems to have changed Regards, Curt. -- Curtis Olson IVLab / HumanFIRST Program FlightGear Project Twin Citiescurt 'at' me.umn.edu curt 'at' flightgear.org Minnesota http://www.menet.umn.edu/~curt http://www.flightgear.org ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] weird reset
Am Samstag, 19. Juli 2003 22:21 schrieb Christopher S Horler: > This sometimes happens when I reset - I can't reproduce it everytime, > I'm looking into things that may make it happen - it seems almost like > some values are being initialized incorrectly i.e. the plane starts the > right way up then goes through a 180 degree half loop. > > http://www.zen11419.zen.co.uk/snapshot10.png > > I agree. I have the same problem. Best Regards, Oliver C. ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
