Re: [Flightgear-devel] simple tower view
At 3/17/02, you wrote: >Michael Selig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > > That would be nice, but even something simple that puts the viewpoint 200 > > ft above the runway behind the aircraft would be great to start > with. That > > view is a help when building and testing the new aircraft models. It also > > makes the sim well-primed for R/C use. > > > > Regards, > > Michael > > > >Try the pilot offset dialog on the menu. With the dials you can position the >eye anywhere on a sphere from 1 to 100 meters radius from the model. It is >great for testing model animations. > >Best, > >Jim Thanks. That helps. ** Prof. Michael S. Selig Dept. of Aero/Astro Engineering University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign 306 Talbot Laboratory 104 South Wright Street Urbana, IL 61801-2935 (217) 244-5757 (o), (509) 691-1373 (fax) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/m-selig http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/m-selig/faq.html (FAQ) ** ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
re: [Flightgear-devel] simple tower view
At 3/17/02, you wrote: >Michael Selig writes: > > > I am wondering does the view manager work-in-progress support a simple > > tower view at this stage? Having gone from our non-CVS tower view in > 0.7.8 > > to a recent CVS checkout leaves me wishing for more. > >Jim Wilson is working on the rewrite. We do plan to support tower >view (and other interesting views) very soon, but I don't know if it >will be in the first take or not. > > >All the best, > > >David > >-- >David Megginson >[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sounds very good! ** Prof. Michael S. Selig Dept. of Aero/Astro Engineering University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign 306 Talbot Laboratory 104 South Wright Street Urbana, IL 61801-2935 (217) 244-5757 (o), (509) 691-1373 (fax) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/m-selig http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/m-selig/faq.html (FAQ) ** ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] simple tower view
Erik Hofman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > Talking about views. > Currently when looking around in the cockpit you turn around a single > point (if I recall it correctly). Wouldn't it be nessercary to actually > incoorporate the eye distance from the middle of the head into that > action (and limit the rotation to about 270 degrees). It would seem more > "natural" that way (for me at least ;-)) > Did you see "The Exorcist"? :-D Best, Jim ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] simple tower view
David Megginson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Michael Selig writes: > > > That would be nice, but even something simple that puts the viewpoint 200 > > ft above the runway behind the aircraft would be great to start with. That > > view is a help when building and testing the new aircraft models. It also > > makes the sim well-primed for R/C use. > > We have a center lon/lat/alt for every airport. For small airports, > unfortunately, that's often the runway center, but it should still be > useful as a starting tower location until we have better data. > Was thinking that an interesting solution to this might be to calculate a point that is 200 meters in front of the plane, 100 meters to the right of the plane and 50 meters AGL and call that "tower view" when there is no defined tower within a reasonable distance (say 2km) of the craft. Reset it when you switch to "towerview". Best, Jim ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] simple tower view
Michael Selig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > That would be nice, but even something simple that puts the viewpoint 200 > ft above the runway behind the aircraft would be great to start with. That > view is a help when building and testing the new aircraft models. It also > makes the sim well-primed for R/C use. > > Regards, > Michael > Try the pilot offset dialog on the menu. With the dials you can position the eye anywhere on a sphere from 1 to 100 meters radius from the model. It is great for testing model animations. Best, Jim ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] simple tower view
Erik Hofman writes: > Currently when looking around in the cockpit you turn around a > single point (if I recall it correctly). Wouldn't it be nessercary > to actually incoorporate the eye distance from the middle of the > head into that action (and limit the rotation to about 270 > degrees). It would seem more "natural" that way (for me at least > ;-)) With the viewer rewrite, we will be able to handle things like this (if we choose to) in the view manager rather than in the viewer itself. It's something to think about when our 3D models are better, etc. All the best, David -- David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] simple tower view
David Megginson wrote: > Michael Selig writes: > > > I am wondering does the view manager work-in-progress support a simple > > tower view at this stage? Having gone from our non-CVS tower view in 0.7.8 > > to a recent CVS checkout leaves me wishing for more. > > Jim Wilson is working on the rewrite. We do plan to support tower > view (and other interesting views) very soon, but I don't know if it > will be in the first take or not. Talking about views. Currently when looking around in the cockpit you turn around a single point (if I recall it correctly). Wouldn't it be nessercary to actually incoorporate the eye distance from the middle of the head into that action (and limit the rotation to about 270 degrees). It would seem more "natural" that way (for me at least ;-)) Erik ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] simple tower view
Michael Selig writes: > That would be nice, but even something simple that puts the viewpoint 200 > ft above the runway behind the aircraft would be great to start with. That > view is a help when building and testing the new aircraft models. It also > makes the sim well-primed for R/C use. We have a center lon/lat/alt for every airport. For small airports, unfortunately, that's often the runway center, but it should still be useful as a starting tower location until we have better data. All the best, David -- David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
re: [Flightgear-devel] simple tower view
Michael Selig writes: > I am wondering does the view manager work-in-progress support a simple > tower view at this stage? Having gone from our non-CVS tower view in 0.7.8 > to a recent CVS checkout leaves me wishing for more. Jim Wilson is working on the rewrite. We do plan to support tower view (and other interesting views) very soon, but I don't know if it will be in the first take or not. All the best, David -- David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] simple tower view
At 3/17/02, you wrote: >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >Hash: SHA1 > >On Sun, 17 Mar 2002 16:29, you wrote: > > I am wondering does the view manager work-in-progress support a simple > > tower view at this stage? Having gone from our non-CVS tower view in 0.7.8 > > to a recent CVS checkout leaves me wishing for more. > >Sounds like a good idea. Can we get data on real tower locations easily? >Thanks, > >David That would be nice, but even something simple that puts the viewpoint 200 ft above the runway behind the aircraft would be great to start with. That view is a help when building and testing the new aircraft models. It also makes the sim well-primed for R/C use. Regards, Michael >-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- >Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) >Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org > >iD8DBQE8lDqVF2H7v0XOYBIRAm9GAJ9RNvQ2vOIhXsF11t+fTQ3pc9iHmACgqQEn >WqSZhSxZ0vv5vJ/hrtLgD9w= >=GsuB >-END PGP SIGNATURE- > >___ >Flightgear-devel mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel ** Prof. Michael S. Selig Dept. of Aero/Astro Engineering University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign 306 Talbot Laboratory 104 South Wright Street Urbana, IL 61801-2935 (217) 244-5757 (o), (509) 691-1373 (fax) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/m-selig http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/m-selig/faq.html (FAQ) ** ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] simple tower view
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 17 Mar 2002 16:29, you wrote: > I am wondering does the view manager work-in-progress support a simple > tower view at this stage? Having gone from our non-CVS tower view in 0.7.8 > to a recent CVS checkout leaves me wishing for more. Sounds like a good idea. Can we get data on real tower locations easily? Thanks, David -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8lDqVF2H7v0XOYBIRAm9GAJ9RNvQ2vOIhXsF11t+fTQ3pc9iHmACgqQEn WqSZhSxZ0vv5vJ/hrtLgD9w= =GsuB -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
