Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGLive 0.1 alpha available for testing

2006-05-15 Thread Jim Wilson
> From: Stefan Seifert
>
> That may be a problem, that could affect FGLive, too:
> http://trends.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=06/05/15/1451229&from=rss
> 
> Nine
> 

Technically you could include the vendor's files and just script the build,  
but 
I wouldn't even bother with that until you get a complaint from Linus.  I think 
the spirit of this project could not be compared directly to nVidia and ATI 
distributing linked code themselves.  Of course we cannot tell, but it would 
not 
surprise me if the notice was composed by someone who doesn't have the 
authority 
or right to pursue the issue.

If someone were to sell FGLive discs then trouble might arrive.  Licenses are 
fine,  but copyright law is really about money and demonstrating a quantifiable 
financial loss is key to any claim.

Best,

Jim


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGLive 0.1 alpha available for testing

2006-05-15 Thread Isao Yamashita
I always use my poor man installation of Knoppix (like a live cd image booting from HD), and save those drivers and video codec to a flash memory, and copy back to ramdisk (union fs) for later usage / installation     This way I have an access to essential, but hard to access stuff at hand in a convenient place.     If a file is too big to fit, I burn it to my cd or dvd and copy back to ramdisk (union fs) for later usage / installation, like I did for X-Plane.     Isao"Curtis L. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Well, without graphics drivers then what's the point. Does it make sense to download them and install them every time you boot; is this even possible when running off cd? What about issues of net access (or the potential lack there of.)Curt.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGLive 0.1 alpha available for testing

2006-05-15 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 15 May 2006 16:35:08 -0500, Curtis wrote in message 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> 
> >On Mon, 15 May 2006 20:43:32 +0200, Stefan wrote in message 
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> >  
> >
> > > That may be a problem, that could affect FGLive, too:
> > > http://trends.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=06/05/15/1451229&from=rss
> > >
> > 
> > ..nope, all we need to do is kick out the ATI and Nvidea proprietary
> > binaries and set up scripts to download them if anyone needs them.
> > 
> 
> Well, without graphics drivers then what's the point.  Does it make 
> sense to download them and install them every time you boot; is this 
> even possible when running off cd?  What about issues of net access
> (or  the potential lack there of.)

..we do have the right to distribute the GPL ati and radeon drivers
under the GPL.  This is a very strong reason Nvidea would consider
honoring our question to distribute their proprietary binary drivers
favorably, or watch ATI get all the FGLive business on GPL drivers.

..we need only ask them, and then ATI, and in that sequence.  ;o)

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGLive 0.1 alpha available for testing

2006-05-15 Thread Curtis L. Olson

Arnt Karlsen wrote:

On Mon, 15 May 2006 20:43:32 +0200, Stefan wrote in message 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


 


That may be a problem, that could affect FGLive, too:
http://trends.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=06/05/15/1451229&from=rss
   



..nope, all we need to do is kick out the ATI and Nvidea proprietary
binaries and set up scripts to download them if anyone needs them.

 



Well, without graphics drivers then what's the point.  Does it make 
sense to download them and install them every time you boot; is this 
even possible when running off cd?  What about issues of net access (or 
the potential lack there of.)


Curt.

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[Flightgear-devel] Re: FGLive 0.1 alpha available for testing

2006-05-15 Thread Pigeon
> That may be a problem, that could affect FGLive, too:
> http://trends.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=06/05/15/1451229&from=rss

Yup... I'm aware of that just yesterday. For the time being I'll
wait, as evidence shows there are plenty of distros and one or two other
live CD that ships with nvidia/ati binary drivers.

Worst come to worst I will make FGLive not to include the driver,
but have a convenient way to install it at boot up on the fly.


Pigeon.



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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGLive 0.1 alpha available for testing

2006-05-15 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 15 May 2006 20:43:32 +0200, Stefan wrote in message 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> That may be a problem, that could affect FGLive, too:
> http://trends.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=06/05/15/1451229&from=rss

..nope, all we need to do is kick out the ATI and Nvidea proprietary
binaries and set up scripts to download them if anyone needs them.

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...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...
  Scenarios always come in sets of three: 
  best case, worst case, and just in case.



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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGLive 0.1 alpha available for testing

2006-05-15 Thread Stefan Seifert

That may be a problem, that could affect FGLive, too:
http://trends.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=06/05/15/1451229&from=rss

Nine


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