Re: [Flightgear-devel] Linux - Solaris && AMD64-SPARC64 interfacing
Hi Martin Have you been able to compile the simgear/props directory with the Sun Studio 11 compilers ? I am getting the static class member initialized twice error in props.cxx "SGRawValue<>::DefaultValue is initialized twice" for all the types explicitly defined. Do you know the fix for this or is this a bug with the Sun compilers and will I have to locate a patch ? Apparently in some really old SUn compilers this was a bug. Also have you tried compiling Simgear with -xO4 option ? lots of linking errors occur. Right now running configure has set the compile options by default to "-g" which is debug mode. I have not tried explicitly using -xO2, but i will try that when i can get simgear to build with -g first. Regards, Vikas - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Modeling a Flexwing Microlight
On Fri, 8 Dec 2006, Stuart Buchanan wrote: > - There is no trimming for different flight phases. Vertical speed is > purely controlled by power. Many trikes has a trim function, just like all non-trainer hang glider has nowadays. (I know the Airborne trike we use for aerotowing has it.) This trim is usually operated by a line, the trim line, which is drawn to the speedbar (on a HG) or on a sidebar (on a trike) and most noticeably it adjusts the tension of the cross beam (which is divided in two parts connected with a hinge at the centerline). (Compare with the "kick" or sheet on a sailboat mainsail.) There are however more functions coupled with the trim than cross beam tension. On kingpost HG's (like your trike), there is something called "luff lines" connected to the trailing edge via the kingpost, on the newer topless hg's there are "sprogs" at the wing tips filling the same function. Luff lines and sprogs act like an elevator trim under certain circumstances, and is primary a safety detail to prevent an uncontrollable dive. The setting of those are also altered along with the trim setting. So the trim on a HG or trikes changes: 1. The camber of the whole wing. (cross beam tension) This affects L/D ratio, stall speed. 2. Apex (follows from sail tension) and dihedral (not much). 3. The elevator trim function of sprogs or luff lines. Your trike may have the cross beam fixed to the keel (can't tell by the photo) and would then be a bit stiffer in handling (but more course stable) than a hang glider with the trim fully loose, but with a floating cross beam (i.e. not connected to the keel) as all hang gliders have today, the first effect of moving the weight to one side (shifting the keel sideways with respect to the cross-beam and wing tubes) is that the wing you move away from gets less camber and the other gets more camber. This in turn makes the outer wing tip fly a bit faster than the inner wing tip, generating some rudder and aileron effect. A hang glider with a non-floating cross beam is rather slow in turns. This difference in camber between the wing halves is less the more the pilot tighten the trim. So we can add a fourth function of the HG trim: 4. Sets the amount of rudder and aileron effect from shifting weight sideways -- indirectly by adjusting the cross beam tension and thus the difference in tension of the trailing edge on each wing half. In short: when circling thermals or coming in for landing, you release the trim, when flying straight between thermals you tighten the trim (fully or to a wanted trim speed). But that is perhaps a bit beside the point -- a trike pilot doesn't have to worry much about L/D ratio, and there is plenty of weight for steering with pure CG shift on a trike. > So, should I use YASim or JSBSim for this project? Or larcsim? The only hang glider model in FG (airwaveXtreme150, a larcsim model) has an invisible motor+propeller attached to it, so we could call it "a trike". It doesn't have a trim function anyway. (I'm quite sure the original has.) - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgfs-builder repository
On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 00:06:28 +0100, Arnt wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 19:33:07 +0100, Ralf wrote in message > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Hi, > > > > Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > ..agreed, I have the 3'rd build going now: ;o) > > > http://80.239.32.253/arnt/fgfsbuilder.trunk.now.it.is.theTIFF.bug > > > http://80.239.32.253/arnt/fgfsbuilder.trunk.now.fixing.theTIFF.bug > > > > Just have a look to the current version: > > > > http://svn.qmx-systems.com/fgfsbuilder/branches/stable/doc/DEBIAN-REQUIREMENTS > > > > Everything's in there. > > ..http://80.239.32.253/arnt/ahem.DEBIAN-REQUIREMENTS ;o) > ..building FlightGear_plib also fails, but I need sleep before I can figure this one out: http://80.239.32.253/arnt/fgfsbuilder.stable.jealous.plib.bug -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;o) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] New problem with yasim aircrafts
you need to mantain your data and source trees in sync eg. a cvs head data checkout wont work with fgfs-0.9.8 .002 cents On 12/11/06, Heiko Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > > With the osg-fgfs.exe and the datas from 12.06.2006 I > can't use some yasim aircrafts like the 777 or my > ec135. > > I get following message: > > "cannot find specified aircraft > config option parsing failed..." > > So where is the matter and how to fix it? > > Greetings > HHS > > > > ___ > Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de > > - > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your > opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash > http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV > ___ > Flightgear-devel mailing list > Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel > - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Issues compiling taxidraw...
Hi there, Ralf Gerlich wrote: > Hi, > > Chris Wilkinson wrote: > >>Its all there, so perhaps the deprecation of wxNotebookSizer >>in wx-2.7 (SUSE 10.1) is the problem I have... > > > Interesting indeed. I did not know that wx-2.7 was out yet. > > >>Next mission is to compile and figure out terragear, so >>I can export my new taxiway definitions back to fg... :-/ > > Try the fgfs-builder package (download from > ftp://ftp.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Misc_rag/fgfs-builder/ or checkout > from http://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/fgfsbuilder/branches/stable > using Subversion) ;-) Does that require me to have the cvs/osg version of flightgear? I'm running 0.9.10 stable, without osg... I've given up on terragear, because several dependencies were not available for SUSE 10.1, and compiling from source fails on those. I've also considered fgsd, as that is reputed to be able to import x-plane runway definitions from taxidraw, and export those back to flightgear scenery directly. Is this correct? That also is not able to be installed on my system currently (needs FLU, FLU fails to build)... :-( Does anyone else on this list have SUSE 10.1 and the same troubles I do? I've read elsewhere that SUSE is not too friendly with source that might compile happily on fedora/debian/gentoo etc... Kind regards, Chris Wilkinson, Brisbane, Australia. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgfs-builder repository
On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 19:33:07 +0100, Ralf wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi, > > Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > ..agreed, I have the 3'rd build going now: ;o) > > http://80.239.32.253/arnt/fgfsbuilder.trunk.now.it.is.theTIFF.bug > > http://80.239.32.253/arnt/fgfsbuilder.trunk.now.fixing.theTIFF.bug > > Just have a look to the current version: > > http://svn.qmx-systems.com/fgfsbuilder/branches/stable/doc/DEBIAN-REQUIREMENTS > > Everything's in there. ..http://80.239.32.253/arnt/ahem.DEBIAN-REQUIREMENTS ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;o) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgfs-builder repository
Hi, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > ..agreed, I have the 3'rd build going now: ;o) > http://80.239.32.253/arnt/fgfsbuilder.trunk.now.it.is.theTIFF.bug > http://80.239.32.253/arnt/fgfsbuilder.trunk.now.fixing.theTIFF.bug Just have a look to the current version: http://svn.qmx-systems.com/fgfsbuilder/branches/stable/doc/DEBIAN-REQUIREMENTS Everything's in there. Cheers, Ralf - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] cow on runway problem seem to be solved
"worn out cow joke" So it was an easter egg? --- Maik Justus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > Hi, > > Melchior has fixed the cow on runway problem, see > cvs-log: > > > > Update of > /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/bo105/Models > > In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv29403 > > > > Modified Files: > > bo105.nas > > Log Message: > > - make adf dial work (though that looks ugly; need > to fix it soon) > > - remove worn out cow joke > > > > > > Maik > > - > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get > the chance to share your > opinions on IT & business topics through brief > surveys - and earn cash > http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV> ___ > Flightgear-devel mailing list > Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel > ___ Der frühe Vogel fängt den Wurm. Hier gelangen Sie zum neuen Yahoo! Mail: http://mail.yahoo.de - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] cow on runway problem seem to be solved
Hi, Melchior has fixed the cow on runway problem, see cvs-log: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/bo105/Models In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv29403 Modified Files: bo105.nas Log Message: - make adf dial work (though that looks ugly; need to fix it soon) - remove worn out cow joke Maik - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] New problem with yasim aircrafts
Hi, With the osg-fgfs.exe and the datas from 12.06.2006 I can't use some yasim aircrafts like the 777 or my ec135. I get following message: "cannot find specified aircraft config option parsing failed..." So where is the matter and how to fix it? Greetings HHS ___ Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgfs-builder repository
On Thu, 07 Dec 2006 14:46:58 +0100, Ralf wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi, > > Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > On Wed, 06 Dec 2006 18:25:00 +0100, Ralf wrote in message > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > >> Hi all, > >> > >> Douglas Campos has provided a Subversion repository for the > >> fgfs-builder. > >> > >> The development version can be checked out at > >> http://svn.qmx-systems.com/fgfsbuilder/trunk > > > > ..http://80.239.32.253/arnt/fgfsbuilder.trunk.revenge.of.theGIF.bug > > Try installing libungif4-dev. The dependency lists for Debian etch are > currently not up-to-date. ..agreed, I have the 3'rd build going now: ;o) http://80.239.32.253/arnt/fgfsbuilder.trunk.now.it.is.theTIFF.bug http://80.239.32.253/arnt/fgfsbuilder.trunk.now.fixing.theTIFF.bug -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;o) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Issues compiling taxidraw...
Hi, Chris Wilkinson wrote: > Its all there, so perhaps the deprecation of wxNotebookSizer > in wx-2.7 (SUSE 10.1) is the problem I have... Interesting indeed. I did not know that wx-2.7 was out yet. > Next mission is to compile and figure out terragear, so > I can export my new taxiway definitions back to fg... :-/ Try the fgfs-builder package (download from ftp://ftp.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Misc_rag/fgfs-builder/ or checkout from http://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/fgfsbuilder/branches/stable using Subversion) ;-) Cheers, Ralf - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Issues compiling taxidraw...
Chris Wilkinson wrote: > Next mission is to compile and figure out terragear, so > I can export my new taxiway definitions back to fg... :-/ Please submit your changes to Robin Peel as well: http://www.x-plane.org/home/robinp/index.htm#Updates Thanks, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Issues compiling taxidraw...
Hi there, Torsten Dreyer wrote: > Hi, > > looks like toolsoptionsdialog.cpp does not know anything about > wxNotebookSizer. That one comes from wxwidgets. > - wxwidgets installed? > - header files in include path? Its all there, so perhaps the deprecation of wxNotebookSizer in wx-2.7 (SUSE 10.1) is the problem I have... I have found an interim solution, and that is to use the Windows version of taxidraw in wine...it actually works flawlessly... :-) Next mission is to compile and figure out terragear, so I can export my new taxiway definitions back to fg... :-/ > Googleing for wxNotebookSizer finds some pages saying this class is > deprecated. Maybe it has been removed in the latest version of wxwidgets. > Grep thru the header files of wxwidgets is see if it is still there. If not, > get an older version. > Am Montag, 11. Dezember 2006 00:13 schrieb Chris Wilkinson: >>Making all in Dialogs >>make[2]: Entering directory `/home/chrisw/TaxiDraw/src/Dialogs' >>make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 Kind regards, Chris Wilkinson, Brisbane, Australia. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
