Re: [Flightgear-devel] Traffic Manager II
Durk Talsma wrote: On Thursday 31 July 2008 21:22, Durk Talsma wrote: For the adventurous, I've also posted a snapshot of the current code (source only). Feedback is appreciated. For those interested, here's another snapshot of the current in development code of the traffic manager: http://durktalsma.xs4all.nl/FlightGear/FlightGear-1.0.0-new-traffic-manager-prev2.tar.gz The main improvement of the current code is that I've switched to a more efficient search mechanism to link Aircraft and Flights. There are still a few things left to do before the code is ready for CVS: - Switch the file format back to xml - Ensure backward compatibiliy (it's actually fairly easy to do) - More cleanup. There is also the accompanying data file. This file contains a broad selection of Flights to and from EHAM, based on the August 2008 time table. All required AI aircraft should be in the CVS data package now. http://durktalsma.xs4all.nl/FlightGear/new-traffic-data-prev2.zip Finally, the new code works extremely well in combination with the new EHAM terminal buildings that Gijs is working on. Reason to add a few more screenshots to my FlightGear AI in development webpage: http://durktalsma.xs4all.nl/FlightGear/web/75.html Enjoy! Durk - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel Is anyone else having trouble with the new-traffic-data-prev2.zip file. I've tried downloading with Win xp and Ubuntu, but both are showing errors. - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Traffic Manager II
Brett Harrison wrote: Is anyone else having trouble with the new-traffic-data-prev2.zip file. I've tried downloading with Win xp and Ubuntu, but both are showing errors. This is a compressed tar file which mistakenly has a different filename suffix, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Sound positioning and orientation
Maik Justus wrote: Hi Erik, Erik Hofman schrieb am 21.08.2008 14:25: Hi, ... There are two options, modify the code to reflect what is described in README.xmlsound or modify the README file. I would prefer to modify the README file. I made some asymmetric sound for helicopters (S58, bo105) and adjusted them, that the result give the correct sound. But if there are other aircrafts with asymmetric sound (e. g. multi engine aircrafts), which have wrong sound now... Does anyone know of an aircraft, with wrong sound? Okay you got a point here. The docs are updated now (README.xmlsound). Also after checking the positioning and orientation code it all seemed to work properly already, the wrong documentation gave me the wrong impression. This led to one good thing though; the move of the code from the main loop to the FGFX class makes it rather easy to add support for multiple sound sources, just create a new FGFX class for every aircraft (and update the code to get the models position, which should be a one liner) and it should work properly. Erik - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Textranslate Step and Scroll
On 08/16/2008 03:32 PM, Tim Moore wrote: Sport Model was last updated to CVS FlightGear over a year ago. Do you have any plans to update it to current CVS? On 08/16/2008 06:13 PM, I replied: I could be persuaded. Do you think it would be helpful? On 08/17/2008 08:28 AM, Tim Moore wrote: Yes, I do think it would be helpful to get your fixes and development merged in. It would be especially great to base your merges from CVS on the git mirrors at pigeond.net, as several of us use that. As of 08/18/2008 04:45 PM, I had done exactly what I was asked to do. These patches are relative to the latest and greatest source from Pigeon's git archive, current as of a few minutes ago. Was it in fact helpful? - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Textranslate Step and Scroll
John Denker wrote: On 08/16/2008 03:32 PM, Tim Moore wrote: Sport Model was last updated to CVS FlightGear over a year ago. Do you have any plans to update it to current CVS? On 08/16/2008 06:13 PM, I replied: I could be persuaded. Do you think it would be helpful? On 08/17/2008 08:28 AM, Tim Moore wrote: Yes, I do think it would be helpful to get your fixes and development merged in. It would be especially great to base your merges from CVS on the git mirrors at pigeond.net, as several of us use that. As of 08/18/2008 04:45 PM, I had done exactly what I was asked to do. I suppose I wasn't specific enough. I meant that would be helpful for the branches in your Sport Model repository to be rebased onto or merged with Pigeon's official ones. Unless I'm pointing at the wrong repos, I haven't seen any change there. These patches are relative to the latest and greatest source from Pigeon's git archive, current as of a few minutes ago. Was it in fact helpful? Of course, there's certainly more to talk about when a patch is based on the current code. I'm sorry I haven't joined in (or really processed) the recent discussion of textranslate; I've had my head down in other stuff. Tim - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Changes in sound positioning and orientation
On ven 22 août 2008, Erik Hofman wrote: Hi, There turned out to be a problem in the documentation about sound positioning and orientation that is fixed now. This affects probably most aircraft that are available (which is very unfortunate) but the sound must have been wrong all along. One thing was that inner-cone and outer-cone have been replaced by inner-angle and outer-angle at some point which just turned of sound orientation (the default values for them are to emit sound to every direction). The direction have been updated in CVS for the following aircraft: f-14b B-2 SeaVixen SR71-BlackBird Lightning Another problem was the sound position which were described +Y = left, -Y = right, -Z = down, +Z = up, -X = forward, +X = aft, but in reality are: +Z = left, -Z = right +X = down, -X = up +Y = forward, -Y = aft. So to convert the old values to the new ones you should consider: new old X = -Z Y = -X Z = Y Erik Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/SR71-BlackBird/Sounds In directory baron.flightgear.org:/tmp/cvs-serv26633/SR71-BlackBird/Sounds Modified Files: f16-sound.xml Log Message: inner-cone and outer-cone are really called inner-angle and outer-angle Index: f16-sound.xml === RCS file: /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/SR71-BlackBird/Sounds/f16-sound.xml,v retrieving revision 1.1 retrieving revision 1.2 Thanks Erik, For the coming days, or months i must give the Blackbird an other sound more realistic :) However, for now, your is good to be used. Gmalau -- Gérard http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/ J'ai décidé d'être heureux parce que c'est bon pour la santé. Voltaire - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] how to persuade people not to contribute
On 08/22/2008 03:47 AM, Tim Moore wrote: John Denker wrote: On 08/16/2008 03:32 PM, Tim Moore wrote: Sport Model was last updated to CVS FlightGear over a year ago. Do you have any plans to update it to current CVS? On 08/16/2008 06:13 PM, I replied: I could be persuaded. Do you think it would be helpful? On 08/17/2008 08:28 AM, Tim Moore wrote: Yes, I do think it would be helpful to get your fixes and development merged in. It would be especially great to base your merges from CVS on the git mirrors at pigeond.net, as several of us use that. As of 08/18/2008 04:45 PM, I had done exactly what I was asked to do. I suppose I wasn't specific enough. I meant that would be helpful for the branches in your Sport Model repository to be rebased onto or merged with Pigeon's official ones. Unless I'm pointing at the wrong repos, I haven't seen any change there. These patches are relative to the latest and greatest source from Pigeon's git archive, current as of a few minutes ago. Was it in fact helpful? Of course, there's certainly more to talk about when a patch is based on the current code. I'm sorry I haven't joined in (or really processed) the recent discussion of textranslate; I've had my head down in other stuff. Allow me to be more specific: I gave you the opportunity to persuade me that re-basing the patches would be helpful ... that it would be something other than a completely futile waste of my time. You chose the example of textranslate step and scroll. It probably wouldn't have been my first choice, but it is the example on the table, and will serve the purpose. Think of it as a test-flight. If you ask me to re-base this patch and then don't even look at it, I am *not* persuaded to re-base any of the other patches. There is a multi-year track record of patches not being looked at, and other bad behavior. If anybody wants to persuade me that things are better now, I'm waiting to be persuaded. The ball's in your court. - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Traffic Manager II
Martin Spott wrote: Brett Harrison wrote: Is anyone else having trouble with the new-traffic-data-prev2.zip file. I've tried downloading with Win xp and Ubuntu, but both are showing errors. This is a compressed tar file which mistakenly has a different filename suffix, Martin. Thanks Martin, problem solved. - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Changes in sound positioning and orientation
Another update: the inner-angle and outer-angle range from 0-180 degrees instead of 0-360 degrees. Erik - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] fixlist.cxx compile error
On 22 Aug 2008, at 18:01, Alasdair Campbell wrote: I resolved the problem by adding #include algorithm after the end of the #include directives. I don't know if this is the correct solution or whether this error is specific to my system (daily updated Debian Sid). I know you are going to say Serves you right!, but I enjoy being on the edge. Would not be enjoying FG CVS otherwise. This is my fault (introducing the user of lower_bound) but I don't get why it works on other GCC-based platforms. What GCC version is this? 4.2? 4.3? Apologies for the glitch. James - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Traffic Manager II
On Friday 22 August 2008 09:58:20 Martin Spott wrote: This is a compressed tar file which mistakenly has a different filename suffix, Oh, yikes. Things were running a little late yesterday when I posted this. I'll try to replace the data file with a proper zip tomorrow. Cheers, Durk - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT
James Turner wrote: Yep, absolutely, especially since I am very unsure how git deals with binary files, [...] Well, you easily get an answer to this question by trying it out - I've already done that, many months ago ;-) Best regards, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] how to persuade people not to contribute
John Denker wrote: On 08/22/2008 03:47 AM, Tim Moore wrote: John Denker wrote: As of 08/18/2008 04:45 PM, I had done exactly what I was asked to do. I suppose I wasn't specific enough. I meant that would be helpful for the branches in your Sport Model repository to be rebased onto or merged with Pigeon's official ones. Unless I'm pointing at the wrong repos, I haven't seen any change there. These patches are relative to the latest and greatest source from Pigeon's git archive, current as of a few minutes ago. Was it in fact helpful? Of course, there's certainly more to talk about when a patch is based on the current code. I'm sorry I haven't joined in (or really processed) the recent discussion of textranslate; I've had my head down in other stuff. Allow me to be more specific: I gave you the opportunity to persuade me that re-basing the patches would be helpful ... that it would be something other than a completely futile waste of my time. I can't imagine why rebasing the Sport Model patches would be a futile waste of time. What do you expect people to do with the Sport Model patches? Run a year-old version of FlightGear? Try to integrate patches based on out-of-date sources into their own trees? You chose the example of textranslate step and scroll. It probably wouldn't have been my first choice, but it is the example on the table, and will serve the purpose. Think of it as a test-flight. Indeed. I chose this patch because it is the earliest one in your Sport Model sg repository. I don't have a great stake in how texture animation of instruments works but yeah, it would be nice if it was correct. And it looks like there's some good stuff in the whole of your patches, so it would be nice to start merging it in. I'm not going to look at anything unless it's based off the current sources, so I started rebasing your sg tree myself. This textranslate patch, the very first one, has a serious merge conflict. I could plow through all your patches and try to finish a local rebase of your stuff, but there are very likely more merge conflicts lurking there, and as the patch author you are in a much better position than I to resolve these conflicts. If you ask me to re-base this patch and then don't even look at it, I am *not* persuaded to re-base any of the other patches. I have in fact looked it, in both it's new and old versions, and had discussions about it on IRC with at least one of your interlocutors from the discussion last year. I meant by my comment about lack of time that I didn't have an opinion yet and hadn't contributed to the new email discussion. That being said, I do not do your or anyone else's bidding in terms of committing patches in any particular time frame. I'm not sure if/when I'd commit your textranslate patch, or if others would be committed first, and what the final form would be. There is a multi-year track record of patches not being looked at, and other bad behavior. If anybody wants to persuade me that things are better now, I'm waiting to be persuaded. The ball's in your court. No. Your patches should have more value to you merged into the mainline than apart; if not, then one really has to question what value they have at all. The fact that you've put them in a git repository should make them easy to evaluate on their technical merits and integrate without politics. If they are in a form suitable for easy review and merging -- that is, based on current sources -- then I can look at them, merge those that are obviously right, and persuade others who know the subject area better than me to give them another look. I'm sorry if you are mad at the reception your patches received in the past, but I'm not inclined to play open-source therapist. Tim - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Nasa Error
Hi, Run FlightGear Multiplayer I noticed the following error; Chat [*FGMS*] Buckaro is now online, using Chat [*FGMS*] Aircraft/Lockheed1049/Models/Lockheed1049_twa.xml Nasal runtime error: floating point error in math.sin() at /usr/local/share/FlightGear/data/Nasal/geo.nas, line 169 called from: /usr/local/share/FlightGear/data/Nasal/multiplayer.nas, line 298 called from: /usr/local/share/FlightGear/data/Nasal/multiplayer.nas, line 323 Chat [*FGMS*] sergiom is now online, using Chat [*FGMS*] Aircraft/787/Models/787CO.xml Not sure is it's a problem or not. I'm running cvs from August 15th. Best Regards, Paul B. - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
